the final playoff team is the highest scoring team not already seeded (1 Viewer)

[whitem0nkey]

the title say it all...

thanks to TC for bring this up.

 

[the_Truth]

the title say it all...thanks to TC for bring this up.

Never done this, but my initial reaction is that it would almost completely eliminate the significance of your weekly matchups. I like the luck element in fantasy football, if I knew that I would be in the playoffs at the end of the year as long as I scored the most points I wouldn't live or die by my weekly results as I do now.This coming from someone who is 3-4 in one league despite having scored by far the most points.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think I invented it.

I love it as it keeps guys that have good teams but are just unlucky from tanking the remainder of the season. It keeps people more involved longer.

 

[mlball77]

My leauge has a 6-team playoff format and we give the sixth seed to the team with the highest total points that has not already qualified for the playoffs. The league seems to like it and view it as an equalizer. -If a team had some hard breaks (losing close games) or possibly just plays in the toughest division and lost some high-scoring games, that team can still make the playoffs with a less-than-stellar record. It has been my experience that the sixth seeded team in our playoffs usually is stronger than at least 1-2 other teams that made the playoffs.

 

[whitem0nkey]

I think I invented it. I love it as it keeps guys that have good teams but are just unlucky from tanking the remainder of the season. It keeps people more involved longer.

im sure all of us have been stuck in a bad luck year(s) where each week you get the short end.

 

[Cunk]

I love it. After tonight I'm going to be 1-6 with this lineup:

K. Warner QB

P. Thomas RB

B. Westbrook RB

M. Colston WR

A. Johnson WR

T. Gonzalez TE

R. Longwell K

49ers DST

So if it weren't for the total points entry into the playoffs I'd basically be done only halfway through the season. But I still have hope and believe this team could do some damage in the playoffs. Just been unlucky.

 

[Bamboo Bill]

Yes.

Should be the standard in all head to head leagues.

 

[Lash]

MOX leagues have 8 playoffs spots, top 6 seeds get in via record and then top 2 scorers not in top 6

i love it with one exception: usually the 7 and 8 seed are two of the better teams in the league and the 1 and 2 seed end up playing better teams in the quarters than they do in the semis (if they even win)

so it is almost better to come in 3rd or 4th

other than that it is a pretty good way of adding skill/subtracting luck which is always good

 

[OldMilwaukee]

of course

 

[shredhead]

I've never played in a league like that and although it intrigues me, I don't know if I agree with it. I'll use the SF defense of a few weeks ago as an example. Somebody may get a playoff berth in this system because of one player blowing up one week. Another team may have been solid and more consistant and deserve the playoff spot more. I think the last playoff spot should be an all play record or Breakdown as it's called on cbs sportsline.

 

[whitem0nkey]

I've never played in a league like that and although it intrigues me, I don't know if I agree with it. I'll use the SF defense of a few weeks ago as an example. Somebody may get a playoff berth in this system because of one player blowing up one week. Another team may have been solid and more consistant and deserve the playoff spot more. I think the last playoff spot should be an all play record or Breakdown as it's called on cbs sportsline.

the all play record VS the total points is a good debate.I would think that you are right, it keeps the H2H theme. and rewards consistency over luck, since that seems to be the goal with the last spot.

 

[Godsbrother]

We've been doing this for years. 2 conferences, each with 2 division. The 2 division winners make the playoffs and the wildcards are the highest point total of the remaining teams in each conference.

 

[joey]

We don't give a playoff slot to this team but instead we give back half the entry fee to the

highest scoring team not making the playoffs. A small consolation to unlucky head to head

matchups during the regular season.

 

[MrJimiT]

Two divisions with division champs getting a bye week. The next 3 best HTH records are in the playoffs. The final playoff spot goes to the team with the most points not already in the playoffs due to record. However, the 6 playoff teams are all seeded based on the points scored for the season. So even though the division champs get a bye in the first round, they may not necessarily be seeded #1 & #2. So each playoff round is highest remaining seed vs. lowest remaining seed. It seems to have worked out great for our playoff system.

 

[pollardsvision]

Never done it. Sounds like a great idea though.

 

[sanfranfan]

we have 3 divisions, each division champ plus the highest remaining point scorer make the playoffs where the teams are then seeded 1-4 based on total points. only once have we had a top-4 scoring team miss the playoffs in 3 years (though it might happen again this year)

 

[Caesar]

I love this system.

I used to play in a league run by my brother. 4 years in a row I was top 3 in points scored and didn't make the playoffs due to bad H2H luck. It can be frustrating for one year. Imagine 4 years in a row.

Anyway, the dynasty leagues I played in had this rule, and I don't think I would ever play in a "friends" league again that doesn't use this rule. It definitely takes away some of the luck factor and places more emphasis on setting the correct lineup each week, drafting, and waivers.

It may seem like a small thing, but it can make a difference. Usually what I have seen is the 6 seed is a team that is only about 7-6 anyway. does that team really deserve the playoffs or does the person who scored more points than 3 of the playoff teams but always played the #1 or #2 scorer of the week and ended up 4-9? Seems like it should be obvious.

 

[Caesar]

Two divisions with division champs getting a bye week. The next 3 best HTH records are in the playoffs. The final playoff spot goes to the team with the most points not already in the playoffs due to record. However, the 6 playoff teams are all seeded based on the points scored for the season. So even though the division champs get a bye in the first round, they may not necessarily be seeded #1 & #2. So each playoff round is highest remaining seed vs. lowest remaining seed. It seems to have worked out great for our playoff system.

I like this playoff seeding idea, but seems like it might be a PITA to set up. Does your commish do this manually during the playoffs? What site do you use for your league?

 

[Buckna]

I'm convinced it's essential in a dynasty league. Even more so if you have some sort of toilet bowl or a playoff for non-playoff teams for draft position or a monetary prize.

In one of my leagues two years ago, one of the highest scoring teams had Head to Head matchup bad luck and didn't make the playoffs. He got the #1 overall pick as consolation because he dominated the toilet bowl. We quickly changed that rule in the offseason.

Before the change to points for wild cards in the Misfits leagues it wasn't all that unusual to see a high scoring team end up with the 2nd or 3rd overall rookie pick, not exactly fair to the truly bad teams that eeked out a win here and there because of lucky matchups.

 

[Keith R]

Haven't done it, would be against it. The goal is beat your opponent every week, and that in and of itself will cause you to alter your strategy to react to your opponent. Do you start your WR that his QB will throw to? Do you play it conservative against a weak opponent and swing for the fences against the league leader? Etc etc etc. If you want to go by total points, start a total points league.

I MIGHT be more receptive to guaranteeing a playoff spot for the overall points leader but even that is blurring the line too much for me.

 

[PoolShark]

Haven't done it, would be against it. The goal is beat your opponent every week, and that in and of itself will cause you to alter your strategy to react to your opponent. Do you start your WR that his QB will throw to? Do you play it conservative against a weak opponent and swing for the fences against the league leader? Etc etc etc. If you want to go by total points, start a total points league.I MIGHT be more receptive to guaranteeing a playoff spot for the overall points leader but even that is blurring the line too much for me.

You seem to be missing the point. You can do everything right, set your best possible line up, score the 2nd highest points in the league & still lose if you happen to play the highest scoring team. If that happens 3 times on the season, you go from a 9-4 playoff team to a 6-7 bystander...solely due to your schedule, which is complete luck. And it doesn't matter how much strategy you use, you can't do a thing to prevent your opponent from scoring. Head to head is fine, but in the end it isn't the same as H2H in the NFL. You're not playing on the same field with your opponent & you don't have a "defense" that can prevent them from scoring. The only logical strategy is to start the guys you think will score the most points each week because that's all you can control. It doesn't matter if your starting WR caught passes from his QB... if you have another WR on the bench who scored more points, your "strategy" to offset his QB production just made it harder for you to win.The most frustrating year I ever had I lost 6 games with the 2nd highest score of the week in a 12 team league. It was probably the best team I ever put together, scored 20 ppg more than the #2 team in total points & didn't even sniff the playoffs...solely due to something as random as an unlucky schedule. Most of us invest a considerable amount of time (and frequently a considerable amount of money) in this hobby and it seems pretty unfair to have something as random as an unlucky schedule negate all that time & work. In the league I run we've been giving the 6th & final playoff spot to the remaining team with the highest total points for 5 or 6 years and everyone likes the rule for the reasons already mentioned in the thread. Frankly, I don't see any downside to it. As mentioned, the 6 seed is usually hovering around .500 anyway, so it's not like you're knocking some great team out to insert the total points leader, and also as mentioned the 6th total points seed is frequently better than at least a couple teams that got in by record. I think it's an excellent rule.

 

[MrJimiT]

Two divisions with division champs getting a bye week. The next 3 best HTH records are in the playoffs. The final playoff spot goes to the team with the most points not already in the playoffs due to record. However, the 6 playoff teams are all seeded based on the points scored for the season. So even though the division champs get a bye in the first round, they may not necessarily be seeded #1 & #2. So each playoff round is highest remaining seed vs. lowest remaining seed. It seems to have worked out great for our playoff system.

I like this playoff seeding idea, but seems like it might be a PITA to set up. Does your commish do this manually during the playoffs? What site do you use for your league?

We are still currently using Fanball...have been for many years. But yes the setup or rather the playoff weekly matchups are set manually. It's not a big deal. I like the format since it rewards the division winners with a Week 14 bye. In our league, the playoff teams don't receive a payout until the Week 15 round. So the division winners with the bye week are placed into the "money" round shall we say. And teams are all seeded by their season point totals. Once the playoff teams are determined, records don't come into play in our playoff system format.

 

[habsfan]

I'm surprised the teams finishing 6th in record are fine with this. Last year we had two teams at 7-6 finish 5th and 6th. Under this format, one is in and the other wouldn't be. Interesting...

 

[Caesar]

I'm surprised the teams finishing 6th in record are fine with this. Last year we had two teams at 7-6 finish 5th and 6th. Under this format, one is in and the other wouldn't be. Interesting...

This isn't something that you would do in the middle of the season obviously. You set this at the beginning and if it is in place, then everyone knows what they need to do to get into the playoffs. This isn't going to change anyones strategy to get the most total points they can every week. What do you use for the playoff tiebreaker? If the answer to that is total points, then you are basically doing the same thing. The team that was 7-6 but was 9th or 10th in points, is being rewarded for having a sub-par team that had good matchups H2H. So, is it harder to tell that person they don't belong in the playoffs than the person who was 3rd or 4th in total points but ended up 6-7 due to bad H2H matchups? The person who is 7-6 and 9th in points probably knows they don't belong in the playoffs, just like the person 6-7 who is 3rd in points knows they should be in. Either way, you are making a decision before the season even starts who goes to the playoffs in this situation. If you think about it objectively, who really deserves the chance at the playoffs? Who has the better chance to win it all in this situation?

 

[swirvenirvin]

I do it in 2 out of 4 leagues.

I have a question though we give this person the 6th seed, does anyone else think that this is unfair to the 3rd team, but most often they are playing a "better" team since they scored more points.

 

[MrJimiT]

I do it in 2 out of 4 leagues.I have a question though we give this person the 6th seed, does anyone else think that this is unfair to the 3rd team, but most often they are playing a "better" team since they scored more points.

That's why our league seeds the playoff entrants based on total points...not record.