The Footballguys Bowl! - Was "Interest In A Footballguys Subscriber League?" (1 Viewer)

[nittanylion]

Id much rather see this Subscriber League idea moved in the direction that I think many of us Forum Regulars enthusiastically registered for, deliver what we expected, if possible - that is, a mega-League format, culminating in a Tournament (which this is) where we'd be competing primarily with guys we've interacted with for decades, along with fbg's staff (which this currently isn't, but I think could fairly easily become).

I'm not the guy anyone wants creating/setting up anything, and I just can't be in any more Leagues, particularly free or low-stakes. I just have too much at stake in the National Contests, and my participation and interest would be disrespectful to everyone else involved.

I'd just like this one to be more like what I think a lot of us thought we were getting involved with when we signed up...and I think there might be a reasonable amount of time, and a not-herculean amount of effort to make it happen.

I'm fairly certain that the overwhelming number of Premium Subscribers who don't participate in the Shark Pool or FFA couldn't care less whether any of us Forum Regulars are in their Leagues or not.

On the other hand, for those of us who are Forum Regulars, being in a League with each other, as well as Staff Members, means a great deal.

I would be very happy to help sift through all the Leagues that have been created and pull out all the Forum Regulars and put them in Leagues together, with one or more Staff Members, and put all the Premium Subscribers who are not Forum Regulars together in their Leagues.

So, we'd still have this mega-League Format with Playoff Tournament, involving all the Leagues, but some Leagues would be comprised majority Forum Members or majority non-Forum members, with Staff Members spread evenly across all Leagues.

That, I think, would benefit the whole Forum Community the most.

Again, I'd be more than willing to donate as much of my own time and energy necessary to making this happen.

 

[joey]

@opensourcebeer @drbm6 are the only 2 message board names from my division that auto-complete when I just tried to “at” them all here. So that makes 3 in Division 0083 at least

 

[opensourcebeer]

@opensourcebeer @drbm6 are the only 2 message board names from my division that auto-complete when I just tried to “at” them all here. So that makes 3 in Division 0083 at least

Now you'll just need to guess which one of the 3 FF magazines I purchased to know what my draft cheat sheet looks like.

 

[Scoresman]

I'd be in favor of picking draft order a bit sooner than a week before the draft.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

@Drunken Cowboy , is that you in 0033??

If so, we got three!! FBG board guys.

It is

 

[TheWinz]

@Drunken Cowboy , is that you in 0033??

If so, we got three!! FBG board guys.

It is

Lucky suckers!

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

@Drunken Cowboy , is that you in 0033??

If so, we got three!! FBG board guys.

It is

Woot woot!

 

[BassNBrew]

Guys, it's a subscriber league, not a message board league. Also if we all win our individual leagues, we'll be in the finals against each other. Much better that the 20-50 of us here dominate the regular season and meet up in the finals then knock each other out early.

Also you can use FBG Home League and set up a league just for posters here if you want to compete against each other. It's not free, but cheap.

 

[nittanylion]

@BassNBrew , you are correct, of course.

However -

1. The Subscriber League is free, the Home League is not.

2. The Subscriber League is a mega-League Format with a Championship Tournament, which a Home League is not.

3. ...and most importantly, I'm very sure there is an easy mechanism that exists to place Premium Subscribers who are also Shark Pool/FFA Regulars in Divisions where they can compete against each other in the sub-Leagues leading up to the Championship Tournament, like many want to, and were under the assumption, they would be.

It might take some extra time and effort to reorganize some Managers, but with Draft Orders not having been released yet, it doesn't cause any ripples.

I've offered my time and energy to help make it happen, and I'll bet I'm not the only one who would volunteer to do whatever it takes to facilitate the transition.

You say 20-50 Forum Regulars. It's probably more than that, but even if it is, that's a minimal amount of work to move those people into Leagues where they Draft vs each other and go Season-long H2H, as many wish, and expected to.

Those Forum Regular Member-heavy sub-Leagues would be of massive benefit to making the Forum Community an even stronger and better place than it already is, and I would go as far as to say the overwhelming majority of Forum Regular Premium Subscribers either were hoping to, or expecting to, play in sub-Leagues comprised majority of Forum Regulars/Staff, so that they could enjoy pitting their acumen vs each other in the Draft Rooms (like we do in the Mock Draft Forum Survivor Leagues), and the fun of season-long smack talk here in the Pool and FFA, where we've all known each other for decades.

I'm not really interested in posting here during the regular season regaling how I crushed faceless, anonymous aardvark413, TDSARELIFE and Marlbo007roMan from Sleeper, Discord, or wherever else, who I don't know from Adam, but I guaran-damn-tee you, I'm going to come in hear and crow, or eat crow, when I kick your *** or have mine kicked by you and a boatload of other guys I've been interacting with for decades. Again, you personally know the kind of fun we've had for years in the Mock Draft Forum.

***ETA*** : with all due respect to every one of my mentors and peers here in the SP and FFA, I would imagine there are plenty of Premium Subscribers who DO NOT frequent these Boards who are as good or better gamers than plenty of us. Who's to say 'we' dominate the competition in our sub-Leagues, and a boatload of us make it to the Championship Tournament Bracket? JMHO, but I think I'd like to play several weeks (the FF Regular Season) in a League composed of 'us' guys - I can't imagine how much fun an entire Season of ultra-competitive FF would be, along with the resulting discussion (including smack) as the cream rises to the top, and the poop sinks to the bottom, and the satisfaction of advancing through a gauntlet of mentors/peers into the Championship Tournament, where we meet up with whoever else made it through in the same manner, with the scars and cred of leaving several SP/FFA'ers in their wake.

I know that's the #1 reason why I signed up, personally, and I know I'm not alone. I'm actually quite confident that the majority of Shark Pool/FFA Regulars feel the same way. Just look at the first several pages of this Thread. There are plenty of posts specifically pointing out how excited Forum Regulars were to be in sub-Leagues that drafted and competed for the whole Season, with other Forum Regulars. Look at the posts where Forum Regulars are elated to find that they are in sub-Leagues with each other, and the posts where Forum Regulars are lamenting being in sub-Leagues with no one they recognize.

With a little timely effort, this absolutely can be BOTH a Subscriber League and a Forum Regular League. I'd like to see us make it so, and I'm willing to put in the work to make it happen.

@Joe Bryant @Joey Wright

 

[nittanylion]

Here's a blast from the past, for folks perusal and (I hope) enjoyment:

Official "Ultimate Survivor" Thread

Note: This post is a work in progress. It will include links to the contests, players selected, etc as that is warranted....David. ------------------------------------------------------ "Ultimate Survivor" will consist of 12 different 12-team leagues to start (144 players). Leg 1...

forums.footballguys.com

This Contest ran from 2008-2011. It was a freaking blast, and there are still plenty of us around who participated in, and went absolutely nuts about it.

It really got the Forum Community jacked up, back in a time when there was a lot more crossover between the SP and FFA. I'd imagine back in those days, there weren't many Premium Subscribers that weren't also Forum Regulars, in both the Shark Pool and the FFA. Long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, and all that...

A quick search using the term 'Ultimate Survivor' will yield several Threads that document the 4 years of the Contest, if anyone wants to see what that was all about, or take a walk down Memory Lane.

I'm posting this so others understand the POV I am coming from with my recent posts. I won the 1st-ever iteration of this contest back in 2008, and I count it among my most prized FF accomplishments, and I've been competing in local and National High Stakes Leagues since 1992 (local) and the original WCOFF (2008?). As a Champion Emeritus, I was granted automatic entry into the '09, '10 and '11 Contests, and I worked as hard as any of my $$$ Leagues trying to win that thing again, for as long as it lasted.

The excitement that Contest created around this place was awesome, and I guess I'm nostalgic for it. I felt a similar sort of swell of 'Forum Regulars' interest when this Subscriber League idea was initially brought to our attention. Of course, there are thousands more Premium Subscribers now, then there were back then, and there are far fewer Forum Regulars - any of us 'old timers' who peruse those Threads will see a lot of names that aren't around any more, and I'll be honest, it's kinda weird - amused and melancholy at the same time.

In one of my previous posts, I said something akin to: 'I'm pretty sure that Premium Subscribers who are NOT Forum Regulars couldn't care any less whether they were competing in sub-Leagues with any Forum Regulars, who they have no relationship with, but I'm pretty sure that for Premium Subscribers who ARE Forum Regulars, it means a great deal'. I think I'm spot-on with that speculation.

So, if it's possible (and I think it is, and I'd be glad to help), for the benefit and enjoyment of the Forum Regulars, I think it would be awesome if some of the sub-Leagues could be re-organized to facilitate a majority of Forum Regulars, and Staff, to be drafting and competing with each other for as many weeks as possible during all phases of the footballguys Subscriber League. I think excitement and fun it would create around here would be off the charts!

 

[Payne]

I'm in!

FBG Bowl - Division 0017

 

[BassNBrew]

Here's a blast from the past, for folks perusal and (I hope) enjoyment:

Official "Ultimate Survivor" Thread

Note: This post is a work in progress. It will include links to the contests, players selected, etc as that is warranted....David. ------------------------------------------------------ "Ultimate Survivor" will consist of 12 different 12-team leagues to start (144 players). Leg 1...

forums.footballguys.com

This Contest ran from 2008-2011. It was a freaking blast, and there are still plenty of us around who participated in, and went absolutely nuts about it.

It really got the Forum Community jacked up, back in a time when there was a lot more crossover between the SP and FFA. I'd imagine back in those days, there weren't many Premium Subscribers that weren't also Forum Regulars, in both the Shark Pool and the FFA. Long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, and all that...

A quick search using the term 'Ultimate Survivor' will yield several Threads that document the 4 years of the Contest, if anyone wants to see what that was all about, or take a walk down Memory Lane.

I'm posting this so others understand the POV I am coming from with my recent posts. I won the 1st-ever iteration of this contest back in 2008, and I count it among my most prized FF accomplishments, and I've been competing in local and National High Stakes Leagues since 1992 (local) and the original WCOFF (2008?). As a Champion Emeritus, I was granted automatic entry into the '09, '10 and '11 Contests, and I worked as hard as any of my $$$ Leagues trying to win that thing again, for as long as it lasted.

The excitement that Contest created around this place was awesome, and I guess I'm nostalgic for it. I felt a similar sort of swell of 'Forum Regulars' interest when this Subscriber League idea was initially brought to our attention. Of course, there are thousands more Premium Subscribers now, then there were back then, and there are far fewer Forum Regulars - any of us 'old timers' who peruse those Threads will see a lot of names that aren't around any more, and I'll be honest, it's kinda weird - amused and melancholy at the same time.

In one of my previous posts, I said something akin to: 'I'm pretty sure that Premium Subscribers who are NOT Forum Regulars couldn't care any less whether they were competing in sub-Leagues with any Forum Regulars, who they have no relationship with, but I'm pretty sure that for Premium Subscribers who ARE Forum Regulars, it means a great deal'. I think I'm spot-on with that speculation.

So, if it's possible (and I think it is, and I'd be glad to help), for the benefit and enjoyment of the Forum Regulars, I think it would be awesome if some of the sub-Leagues could be re-organized to facilitate a majority of Forum Regulars, and Staff, to be drafting and competing with each other for as many weeks as possible during all phases of the footballguys Subscriber League. I think excitement and fun it would create around here would be off the charts!

I miss those days too. I think they cancelled it because they got tired of me showing Dodds what a real perfect draft looked like.

Also spawned the Mock Draft Survivor Leagues which while on life support are still kicking.

 

[nittanylion]

Anyone find any more 'matches' with SP/FFA Community friends/fellows/countrymen lately in their subLeagues/Divisions?

Looks like the high-water mark is 3:

Division 83 (joey, opensourcebeer, drbm6)
Division 33 (greenmountaingoat, InDitkaWeTrust, Drunken Cowboy)

I have opened a conversation with The Powers That Be, via @Joey Wright , with the hope that they might review and consider taking some action regarding what's been discussed recently here in this Thread.

Here's to getting lucky!

 

[LawFitz]

Count me and several of the regulars from the Raiders thread in a for a FBG Sharkpool league - but only if we all are in the same league. Out, if it's going to be random assignment.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Count me and several of the regulars from the Raiders thread in a for a FBG Sharkpool league - but only if we all are in the same league. Out, if it's going to be random assignment.

For the free Footballguys Bowl this year for Premium Subscribers, we are not able to place people in specific leagues that they choose. It's all random. If that doesn't work please let them know when you get your assignment. We have it capped at 2,000 teams right now and there are thousands of people who want a spot if they open up. So please don't take one if you don't want it.

 

[LawFitz]

Count me and several of the regulars from the Raiders thread in a for a FBG Sharkpool league - but only if we all are in the same league. Out, if it's going to be random assignment.

For the free Footballguys Bowl this year for Premium Subscribers, we are not able to place people in specific leagues that they choose. It's all random. If that doesn't work please let them know when you get your assignment. We have it capped at 2,000 teams right now and there are thousands of people who want a spot if they open up. So please don't take one if you don't want it.

My, bad. I was referring to the pay leagues, not the free ones. I got confused and ended up in the wrong thread here.

 

[scottybo]

0118. In.

 

[BassNBrew]

@Joe Bryant Maybe change this thread title to Footballguys Bowl?

For clarity I would suggest not using Subscriber in the title. Seems like a lot of people are getting confused.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Not to run a counter narrative but randos are people too.

 

[Joe Bryant]

@Joe Bryant Maybe change this thread title to Footballguys Bowl?

For clarity I would suggest not using Subscriber in the title. Seems like a lot of people are getting confused.

Thanks Good idea.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Not to run a counter narrative but randos are people too.

They are also FBG subscribers. Just wait until the 'randos' crush our fantasy football hopes and dreams!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I thought I’d signed up very early for the wait list, but never got an update. Had an out of state festival and hadn’t been following this topic.

I now see people saying they’re placed in specific leagues?

Guess that means I’m not one of the lucky subscribers to be chosen.

Ah well. Have fun y'all.

 

[scottybo]

Check spam folder. Search the word "football". What I had to do.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Check spam folder. Search the word "football". What I had to do.

Nope.

S’ok. I didn’t wanna play with you lame-o’s anyways.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I thought I’d signed up very early for the wait list, but never got an update. Had an out of state festival and hadn’t been following this topic.

I now see people saying they’re placed in specific leagues?

Guess that means I’m not one of the lucky subscribers to be chosen.

Ah well. Have fun y'all.

If you have any questions, please email fbgcommish@footballguys.com

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I thought I’d signed up very early for the wait list, but never got an update. Had an out of state festival and hadn’t been following this topic.

I now see people saying they’re placed in specific leagues?

Guess that means I’m not one of the lucky subscribers to be chosen.

Ah well. Have fun y'all.

If you have any questions, please email fbgcommish@footballguys.com

Thanks - like I said, I’ve been on the road and didn’t realize I had to follow this topic after I took the time to sign up for the waiting list.

I’d, perhaps foolishly, assumed I would receive some sort of follow up.

My bad I guess.

 

[2Young2BBald]

I thought I’d signed up very early for the wait list, but never got an update. Had an out of state festival and hadn’t been following this topic.

I now see people saying they’re placed in specific leagues?

Guess that means I’m not one of the lucky subscribers to be chosen.

Ah well. Have fun y'all.

If you have any questions, please email fbgcommish@footballguys.com

Thanks - like I said, I’ve been on the road and didn’t realize I had to follow this topic after I took the time to sign up for the waiting list.

I’d, perhaps foolishly, assumed I would receive some sort of follow up.

My bad I guess.

Just emailed the Commish that league 0089 needs a 12th Team as a fwiw

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I thought I’d signed up very early for the wait list, but never got an update. Had an out of state festival and hadn’t been following this topic.

I now see people saying they’re placed in specific leagues?

Guess that means I’m not one of the lucky subscribers to be chosen.

Ah well. Have fun y'all.

If you have any questions, please email fbgcommish@footballguys.com

Thanks - like I said, I’ve been on the road and didn’t realize I had to follow this topic after I took the time to sign up for the waiting list.

I’d, perhaps foolishly, assumed I would receive some sort of follow up.

My bad I guess.

Just emailed the Commish that league 0089 needs a 12th Team as a fwiw

I emailed the address that Joe gave me, and commish got back to me.

as soon as I get home, I will be signing up for sleeper. He said he could get me into a league.

Thanks @Joe Bryant.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I thought I’d signed up very early for the wait list, but never got an update. Had an out of state festival and hadn’t been following this topic.

I now see people saying they’re placed in specific leagues?

Guess that means I’m not one of the lucky subscribers to be chosen.

Ah well. Have fun y'all.

If you have any questions, please email fbgcommish@footballguys.com

Thanks - like I said, I’ve been on the road and didn’t realize I had to follow this topic after I took the time to sign up for the waiting list.

I’d, perhaps foolishly, assumed I would receive some sort of follow up.

My bad I guess.

I don't know about "foolish". But the contest is closed. There isn't a followup for people who take a few seconds to join the waitlist after the contest is full.

They were able to get you in after the contest is closed.

 

[Grid71]

10 days 00 hours 30 mins 10 secs

Div 0011 coming in hot

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I don't know about "foolish". But the contest is closed. There isn't a followup for people who take a few seconds to join the waitlist after the contest is full.

They were able to get you in after the contest is closed.

I signed up the 1st day this topic was posted, and was likely one of the first people to do so, so I’m not sure what you mean by that.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

10 days 00 hours 30 mins 10 secs

Div 0011 coming in hot

12 days, 8 hours, 45 mins for me.


Division 0154 - where my people at?

 

[Gally]

Division 0113 is hovering at 11 teams. Still waiting for the 12th to join. Not sure if any SP regulars are in it though. I don't recognize any of the names in so far though. If you are in 0113 and on here let me know..haha

 

[Joe Bryant]

I don't know about "foolish". But the contest is closed. There isn't a followup for people who take a few seconds to join the waitlist after the contest is full.

They were able to get you in after the contest is closed.

I signed up the 1st day this topic was posted, and was likely one of the first people to do so, so I’m not sure what you mean by that.

When you said "I thought I’d signed up" I thought maybe there might have been a question there. If you signed up on the first day, you should have received an email confirming you still wanted in. It's possible that didn't go our or went to spam or somehow didn't make it to you. Our apologies if we failed there.

Glad to see our FBGCommish was able to get you in a league.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

When you said "I thought I’d signed up" I thought maybe there might have been a question there. If you signed up on the first day, you should have received an email confirming you still wanted in. It's possible that didn't go our or went to spam or somehow didn't make it to you. Our apologies if we failed there.

Glad to see our FBGCommish was able to get you in a league.

Thanks again - and yeah, checked every mail folder. Nada. No worries, we’re all set and I’m excited for the contest.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Division 0113 is hovering at 11 teams. Still waiting for the 12th to join. Not sure if any SP regulars are in it though. I don't recognize any of the names in so far though. If you are in 0113 and on here let me know..haha

That's the big challenge we're going to have. We set 12 team leagues but every person has to actually accept the invite so it's become super labor intensive for our people to get all these sorted. Please bear with us as do our best here. It sucks to have upset customers on something we're trying to give away but that's reality. Thanks for the patience.

 

[Gally]

It sucks to have upset customers on something we're trying to give away but that's reality. Thanks for the patience.

I am not upset at all. It's all an experience to hopefully meet some new people and get them on the boards if they aren't already. I think you guys are doing a great job trying to get this set up in such a short time. It's a big undertaking for sure.

 

[Joe Bryant]

It sucks to have upset customers on something we're trying to give away but that's reality. Thanks for the patience.

I am not upset at all. It's all an experience to hopefully meet some new people and get them on the boards if they aren't already. I think you guys are doing a great job trying to get this set up in such a short time. It's a big undertaking for sure.

Thank you. I'm sorry I wasn't clear there. I didn't mean you being upset. I've just already had a good number of snarky comments that I'm sure will ramp way up. We'll see.

Hopefully our folks being able to get an earlier start next year will help.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

It sucks to have upset customers on something we're trying to give away but that's reality. Thanks for the patience.

I am not upset at all. It's all an experience to hopefully meet some new people and get them on the boards if they aren't already. I think you guys are doing a great job trying to get this set up in such a short time. It's a big undertaking for sure.

Thank you. I'm sorry I wasn't clear there. I didn't mean you being upset. I've just already had a good number of snarky comments that I'm sure will ramp way up. We'll see.

Hopefully our folks being able to get an earlier start next year will help.

Man, you can't win with everyone. From the get-go this was discussed ad nauseum as a subscribers contest, not just a Shark Pool contest. Sure, it would be fun (maybe) to play with folks from the board, but the truth is, board regulars are probably less than 1% of the subscriber pool. What will be interesting to see is how well the majority play. My assumption is that most folks who subscribe are at least more than a little invested in fantasy football. It should make for some great matchups!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Division 0113 is hovering at 11 teams. Still waiting for the 12th to join. Not sure if any SP regulars are in it though. I don't recognize any of the names in so far though. If you are in 0113 and on here let me know..haha

I was temped to ask them to move me to your league, but then one of us might knock the other out. Plus the draft would be so brutal since we've co-drafted a team together and know each other's likes and dislikes. It would be like drafting against myself.

 

[Gally]

Division 0113 is hovering at 11 teams. Still waiting for the 12th to join. Not sure if any SP regulars are in it though. I don't recognize any of the names in so far though. If you are in 0113 and on here let me know..haha

I was temped to ask them to move me to your league, but then one of us might knock the other out. Plus the draft would be so brutal since we've co-drafted a team together and know each other's likes and dislikes. It would be like drafting against myself.

Do it. Move on over. It would be fun...haha

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Division 0113 is hovering at 11 teams. Still waiting for the 12th to join. Not sure if any SP regulars are in it though. I don't recognize any of the names in so far though. If you are in 0113 and on here let me know..haha

I was temped to ask them to move me to your league, but then one of us might knock the other out. Plus the draft would be so brutal since we've co-drafted a team together and know each other's likes and dislikes. It would be like drafting against myself.

Do it. Move on over. It would be fun...haha

Getting sniped every round does not sound like my idea of fun. Lol.

 

[ICLight]

League 0086

Me too! Don't post here much but certainly am active in reading the boards/articles, using the tools, etc.

 

[Joe Bryant]

League 0086

Me too! Don't post here much but certainly am active in reading the boards/articles, using the tools, etc.

Awesome. This is going to be fun.

 

[farfromforgotten]

Got my draft position today! #2. Let’s go!

 

[Joe Bryant]

Got my draft position today! #2. Let’s go!

Hats off to our @Joey Wright for doing the Lord's work on sorting all these.

 

[joey]

Got my draft position today! #2. Let’s go!

Hats off to our @Joey Wright for doing the Lord's work on sorting all these.

Draft Slot 10. I enjoyed mocking from this slot and glad one of my leagues has me landing here.

GL everyone!

 

[farfromforgotten]

Got my draft position today! #2. Let’s go!

Hats off to our @Joey Wright for doing the Lord's work on sorting all these.

Draft Slot 10. I enjoyed mocking from this slot and glad one of my leagues has me landing here.

GL everyone!

I’ve been doing my best mocking from the 9-10 spot myself. I’m just thankful to have it locked in. Thanks @Joey Wright!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Picking 1.06

So that… fun?

I’ll make it work. Not my favorite spot. But I’ll make it work.

@Joey Wright!

lol - it’s all good. I like a challenge.

 

[Birdie048]

Got my draft position today! #2. Let’s go!

Yeah! Draft order posted. #6 here
League 077