The Gay Mafia (1 Viewer)

[Henry Ford]

For all the preaching, posturing and finger-pointing at gays for undermining traditional marriage, evangelical Christians have a higher divorce rate than nonelivers, according to report by Baylor University's Council on Contemporary Families.

"Conservative Protestants and Black Protestants are more likely than the average American to be divorced, with 17.2 percent and 15.7 percent of their populations being currently divorced, respectively," the report says. "Indeed, Evangelical Protestants are more likely to be divorced than Americans who claim no religion."

"Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children."

Family Research Council distorts researchers work a decade after he demanded a retraction

June 10, 2002

Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D.

FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL

801 G Street N.W.

Washington, DC 2001

Dear Dr. Dailey:

On the web site www.frc.org you reference my work in your article on Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse. I am writing you to object to my name and research being associated in any way, shape, or form to lend legitimacy to the views proposed in your paper.

If you are, in fact, familiar with my research, you must realize that my studies have indicated that homosexual males pose less risk of sexual harm to children (both male and female)from both an absolute and a percentage incidence ratethan heterosexual males. Your statement that the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners appears to come from the assumption that if an adult male is attracted to a male child, this adult males sexual orientation is ipso facto homosexual.

Since your report, in my view, misrepresents the facts of what we know about this matter from scientific investigation, and does not indicate that my studies on this topic reach conclusions diametrically opposed to yours; I would appreciate your removing any reference to my work in your paper lest it appear to the reader that my research supports your views.

Yours truly,

A. Nicholas Groth, Ph.D.

if a male is attracted to a male he isn't a homosexual ? LOL, guess the gay mafia came knocking at his door

Men who don't have sex with adult men sometimes have sex with male children. That makes them pedophiles, not homosexuals.

 

[johnjohn]

For all the preaching, posturing and finger-pointing at gays for undermining traditional marriage, evangelical Christians have a higher divorce rate than nonelivers, according to report by Baylor University's Council on Contemporary Families.

"Conservative Protestants and Black Protestants are more likely than the average American to be divorced, with 17.2 percent and 15.7 percent of their populations being currently divorced, respectively," the report says. "Indeed, Evangelical Protestants are more likely to be divorced than Americans who claim no religion."

"Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children."

Family Research Council distorts researchers work a decade after he demanded a retraction

June 10, 2002

Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D.

FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL

801 G Street N.W.

Washington, DC 2001

Dear Dr. Dailey:

On the web site www.frc.org you reference my work in your article on Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse. I am writing you to object to my name and research being associated in any way, shape, or form to lend legitimacy to the views proposed in your paper.

If you are, in fact, familiar with my research, you must realize that my studies have indicated that homosexual males pose less risk of sexual harm to children (both male and female)from both an absolute and a percentage incidence ratethan heterosexual males. Your statement that the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners appears to come from the assumption that if an adult male is attracted to a male child, this adult males sexual orientation is ipso facto homosexual.

Since your report, in my view, misrepresents the facts of what we know about this matter from scientific investigation, and does not indicate that my studies on this topic reach conclusions diametrically opposed to yours; I would appreciate your removing any reference to my work in your paper lest it appear to the reader that my research supports your views.

Yours truly,

A. Nicholas Groth, Ph.D.

if a male is attracted to a male he isn't a homosexual ? LOL, guess the gay mafia came knocking at his door

Men who don't have sex with adult men sometimes have sex with male children. That makes them pedophiles, not homosexuals.

homosexual - sexually attracted to people of one's own sex.

It makes them homosexuals who happen to be pedophiles.

 

[Henry Ford]

For all the preaching, posturing and finger-pointing at gays for undermining traditional marriage, evangelical Christians have a higher divorce rate than nonelivers, according to report by Baylor University's Council on Contemporary Families.

"Conservative Protestants and Black Protestants are more likely than the average American to be divorced, with 17.2 percent and 15.7 percent of their populations being currently divorced, respectively," the report says. "Indeed, Evangelical Protestants are more likely to be divorced than Americans who claim no religion."

"Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children."

Family Research Council distorts researchers work a decade after he demanded a retraction

June 10, 2002

Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D.

FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL

801 G Street N.W.

Washington, DC 2001

Dear Dr. Dailey:

On the web site www.frc.org you reference my work in your article on Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse. I am writing you to object to my name and research being associated in any way, shape, or form to lend legitimacy to the views proposed in your paper.

If you are, in fact, familiar with my research, you must realize that my studies have indicated that homosexual males pose less risk of sexual harm to children (both male and female)from both an absolute and a percentage incidence ratethan heterosexual males. Your statement that the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners appears to come from the assumption that if an adult male is attracted to a male child, this adult males sexual orientation is ipso facto homosexual.

Since your report, in my view, misrepresents the facts of what we know about this matter from scientific investigation, and does not indicate that my studies on this topic reach conclusions diametrically opposed to yours; I would appreciate your removing any reference to my work in your paper lest it appear to the reader that my research supports your views.

Yours truly,

A. Nicholas Groth, Ph.D.

if a male is attracted to a male he isn't a homosexual ? LOL, guess the gay mafia came knocking at his door

Men who don't have sex with adult men sometimes have sex with male children. That makes them pedophiles, not homosexuals.

homosexual - sexually attracted to people of one's own sex.It makes them homosexuals who happen to be pedophiles.

Many men who have sex with boys also have sex with lots of women of their own age. Homosexuality is an enduring pattern of attraction exclusively or predominantly to the same sex. It doesn't fit for these people.

 

[johnjohn]

For all the preaching, posturing and finger-pointing at gays for undermining traditional marriage, evangelical Christians have a higher divorce rate than nonelivers, according to report by Baylor University's Council on Contemporary Families.

"Conservative Protestants and Black Protestants are more likely than the average American to be divorced, with 17.2 percent and 15.7 percent of their populations being currently divorced, respectively," the report says. "Indeed, Evangelical Protestants are more likely to be divorced than Americans who claim no religion."

"Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children."

Family Research Council distorts researchers work a decade after he demanded a retraction

June 10, 2002

Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D.

FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL

801 G Street N.W.

Washington, DC 2001

Dear Dr. Dailey:

On the web site www.frc.org you reference my work in your article on Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse. I am writing you to object to my name and research being associated in any way, shape, or form to lend legitimacy to the views proposed in your paper.

If you are, in fact, familiar with my research, you must realize that my studies have indicated that homosexual males pose less risk of sexual harm to children (both male and female)from both an absolute and a percentage incidence ratethan heterosexual males. Your statement that the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners appears to come from the assumption that if an adult male is attracted to a male child, this adult males sexual orientation is ipso facto homosexual.

Since your report, in my view, misrepresents the facts of what we know about this matter from scientific investigation, and does not indicate that my studies on this topic reach conclusions diametrically opposed to yours; I would appreciate your removing any reference to my work in your paper lest it appear to the reader that my research supports your views.

Yours truly,

A. Nicholas Groth, Ph.D.

if a male is attracted to a male he isn't a homosexual ? LOL, guess the gay mafia came knocking at his door

Men who don't have sex with adult men sometimes have sex with male children. That makes them pedophiles, not homosexuals.

homosexual - sexually attracted to people of one's own sex.It makes them homosexuals who happen to be pedophiles.

Many men who have sex with boys also have sex with lots of women of their own age. Homosexuality is a prolonged period of attraction exclusively or predominantly to the same sex. It doesn't fit for these people.

Yeah, a lot of homosexuals will be with a female in hiding, like jason collins, while doing what they really want to do secretly, be it making love to a man or to a boy.

For the homosexuals that are with a female in hiding while having sex with ADULT males, I feel bad that they have the need to hide, for the other homosexuals that like boys, they need to be arrested

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/07/jason-collins-gay-nba-player-fiancee-carolyn-moos_n_3225764.html

 

[Henry Ford]

If you don't understand, it's fine to just say that.

 

[johnjohn]

If you don't understand, it's fine to just say that.

and this is where you run out of logical points and start to fling mud, pretty soon you will call me a bigot

 

[Henry Ford]

If you don't understand, it's fine to just say that.

and this is where you run out of logical points and start to fling mud, pretty soon you will call me a bigot

I'm not flinging mud, you just clearly don't understand. Otherwise straight men sometimes abuse male children. They aren't homosexuals, they're pedophiles who are attracted to adult women as well. You don't seem to get what that means.

 

[johnjohn]

If you don't understand, it's fine to just say that.

and this is where you run out of logical points and start to fling mud, pretty soon you will call me a bigot

I'm not flinging mud, you just clearly don't understand. Otherwise straight men sometimes abuse male children. They aren't homosexuals, they're pedophiles who are attracted to adult women as well. You don't seem to get what that means.

Uh, clearly, a man with a female, that abuses male children is a homosexual pedophile hiding, thats what you don't understand.

Just like a Priest that molest boys, they aren't real priests, they are homosexual pedophiles pretending to be priests

 

[Henry Ford]

If you don't understand, it's fine to just say that.

and this is where you run out of logical points and start to fling mud, pretty soon you will call me a bigot

I'm not flinging mud, you just clearly don't understand. Otherwise straight men sometimes abuse male children. They aren't homosexuals, they're pedophiles who are attracted to adult women as well. You don't seem to get what that means.

I don't understand

I know.

 

[johnjohn]

If you don't understand, it's fine to just say that.

and this is where you run out of logical points and start to fling mud, pretty soon you will call me a bigot

I'm not flinging mud, you just clearly don't understand. Otherwise straight men sometimes abuse male children. They aren't homosexuals, they're pedophiles who are attracted to adult women as well. You don't seem to get what that means.

I understand

I know you know, it's just hard for me to understand the clear definition of what homosexual is because I have been brainwashed to think a gay person isn't capable of doing anything bad.

Figured as much

 

[Henry Ford]

It's okay. Knowledge and science are scary. There's a safe place away from them, though. It's called Texas.

 

[Johnny Rock]

So Mozilla Chairwoman Mitchell Baker screwed up and hired Eich despite him not being a fit for the organization going forward, chiefly in regard to mobile OS? Then when the Board and employees responded negatively he's forced to resign and she blames it on a political contribution from 8 years ago?

Why didn't she just admit the hiring mistake, then either fire him or move him back to a position he could succeed in? Or better yet, listen to the Board's recommendations, do your due diligence, and hire a candidate that fits with the company mission in the first place?

Looks to me like they may need a new Chairperson.

 

[Henry Ford]

So Mozilla Chairwoman Mitchell Baker screwed up and hired Eich despite him not being a fit for the organization going forward, chiefly in regard to mobile OS? Then when the Board and employees responded negatively he's forced to resign and she blames it on a political contribution from 8 years ago?

Why didn't she just admit the hiring mistake, then either fire him or move him back to a position he could succeed in? Or better yet, listen to the Board's recommendations, do your due diligence, and hire a candidate that fits with the company mission in the first place?

Looks to me like they may need a new Chairperson.

And a new flagship product, since Chrome is slaughtering them.

 

[squistion]

I don't understand

I know.

 

[johnjohn]

Don't worry Henry, theres a place where people don't care about semantics and it's called California

 

[Henry Ford]

Don't worry Henry, theres a place where people don't care about semantics and it's called California

Maybe they have a dictionary with vague, incorrect definitions you can use to bolster your point.

 

[johnjohn]

Don't worry Henry, theres a place where people don't care about semantics and it's called California

Maybe they have a dictionary with vague, incorrect definitions you can use to bolster your point.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexual

yep, I have the right definition

 

[Henry Ford]

Don't worry Henry, theres a place where people don't care about semantics and it's called California

Maybe they have a dictionary with vague, incorrect definitions you can use to bolster your point.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexualyep, I have the right definition

Good thing you edited this. Looked pretty stupid when you were linking the wrong word.

 

[johnjohn]

Don't worry Henry, theres a place where people don't care about semantics and it's called California

Maybe they have a dictionary with vague, incorrect definitions you can use to bolster your point.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexualyep, I have the right definition

Good thing you edited this. Looked pretty stupid when you were linking the wrong word.

lol, what? The more I logically destroy Henry the more he resorts to Mud Slinging, haha, what a cliche

 

[Henry Ford]

Don't worry Henry, theres a place where people don't care about semantics and it's called California

Maybe they have a dictionary with vague, incorrect definitions you can use to bolster your point.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexualyep, I have the right definition

Good thing you edited this. Looked pretty stupid when you were linking the wrong word.

lol, what? The more I logically destroy Henry the more he resorts to Mud Slinging, haha, what a cliche

So in your estimation, are the clinical terms and usages incorrect? Is the term bisexual meaningless?

 

[McGarnicle]

 

[Henry Ford]

I cannot express to you how disappointed I am that he used Merriam Webster instead of dictionary.com. Seriously, no words.

When you call someone out on a behavior and then he uses it in response and Google screws it up for you, it's extremely disappointing.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Even if adult men attracted to male children were homosexual -- what's the rationale for highlighting it given that gays and lesbians make up a tiny percentage of all pedophiles?

It's just more hate -- a way to tarnish all gays with child molestation. Bigots gonna bigot.

 

[johnjohn]

Don't worry Henry, theres a place where people don't care about semantics and it's called California

Maybe they have a dictionary with vague, incorrect definitions you can use to bolster your point.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexualyep, I have the right definition

Good thing you edited this. Looked pretty stupid when you were linking the wrong word.

lol, what? The more I logically destroy Henry the more he resorts to Mud Slinging, haha, what a cliche

So in your estimation, are the clinical terms and usages incorrect? Is the term bisexual meaningless?

Define the clinical terms for homosexuality , if it doesn't follow the dictionary then yes, it is incorrect.

As far as you asking me if bisexual is meaningless is progress, it's you acknowledging the fact, that it's possible that they are homosexuals, and only aren't if they genuinely truly like females, some may say a lot of them don't, including themselves, like jason collins.

Whatever the case may be, we can say for sure, they aren't heterosexuals. Thus you are implying, by asking me that question that homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals

 

[Chaka]

Checking in to make sure the little fella is keeping the crazy turned up to 11.

 

[squistion]

So in your estimation, are the clinical terms and usages incorrect? Is the term bisexual meaningless?

Define the clinical terms for homosexuality , if it doesn't follow the dictionary then yes, it is incorrect.

As far as you asking me if bisexual is meaningless is progress, it's you acknowledging the fact, that it's possible that they are homosexuals, and only aren't if they genuinely truly like females, some may say a lot of them don't, including themselves, like jason collins.

Whatever the case may be, we can say for sure, they aren't heterosexuals. Thus you are implying, by asking me that question that homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals

Don't you love it when people point to the dictionary as literally being the last word on any subject?

 

[johnjohn]

Checking in to make sure the little fella is keeping the crazy turned up to 11.

Explain your mud slinging, please, try to use logic, it won't hurt to try, I promise.

 

[Chaka]

Checking in to make sure the little fella is keeping the crazy turned up to 11.

Explain your mud slinging, please, try to use logic, it won't hurt to try, I promise.

Don't worry little fella I'll keep posting in your cute little thread to help you feel better.

 

[johnjohn]

So in your estimation, are the clinical terms and usages incorrect? Is the term bisexual meaningless?

Define the clinical terms for homosexuality , if it doesn't follow the dictionary then yes, it is incorrect.

As far as you asking me if bisexual is meaningless is progress, it's you acknowledging the fact, that it's possible that they are homosexuals, and only aren't if they genuinely truly like females, some may say a lot of them don't, including themselves, like jason collins.

Whatever the case may be, we can say for sure, they aren't heterosexuals. Thus you are implying, by asking me that question that homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals

Don't you love it when people point to the dictionary as literally being the last word on any subject?

yes, people that care about what words actually mean as opposed to what we want them to mean are silly

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Checking in to make sure the little fella is keeping the crazy turned up to 11.

Our boy is pushing 12.

 

[squistion]

In case anyone was wondering what The Gay Mafia looks like:

http://asmdss.com/gallery/image/571-gay-mafia/

They'll break the legs of your coffee table...

 

[johnjohn]

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

if they are sexually attracted to both male and female then they aren't heterosexual, or homosexual, they are bisexual, but if they are only genuinely attracted to males then they are homosexuals.

If a person is having sex with a minor male secretly, they are genuinely attracted to males, they would have no reason to pretend to be attracted to males if its done in secret. Now if a male is in a marriage, while having sex with children it makes logical sense he could only be in that marriage as a cover up and not be sexually attracted to females at all, and thus being gay.

If you follow those two logical steps then a guy that molest children can only be bisexual or homosexual, not heterosexual.

 

[Henry Ford]

Don't worry Henry, theres a place where people don't care about semantics and it's called California

Maybe they have a dictionary with vague, incorrect definitions you can use to bolster your point.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexualyep, I have the right definition

Good thing you edited this. Looked pretty stupid when you were linking the wrong word.

lol, what? The more I logically destroy Henry the more he resorts to Mud Slinging, haha, what a cliche

So in your estimation, are the clinical terms and usages incorrect? Is the term bisexual meaningless?

Define the clinical terms for homosexuality , if it doesn't follow the dictionary then yes, it is incorrect.

As far as you asking me if bisexual is meaningless is progress, it's you acknowledging the fact, that it's possible that they are homosexuals, and only aren't if they genuinely truly like females, some may say a lot of them don't, including themselves, like jason collins.

Whatever the case may be, we can say for sure, they aren't heterosexuals. Thus you are implying, by asking me that question that homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals

Is this Walt from Party Down South? I love your show.

 

[johnjohn]

Don't worry Henry, theres a place where people don't care about semantics and it's called California

Maybe they have a dictionary with vague, incorrect definitions you can use to bolster your point.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexualyep, I have the right definition

Good thing you edited this. Looked pretty stupid when you were linking the wrong word.

lol, what? The more I logically destroy Henry the more he resorts to Mud Slinging, haha, what a cliche

So in your estimation, are the clinical terms and usages incorrect? Is the term bisexual meaningless?

Define the clinical terms for homosexuality , if it doesn't follow the dictionary then yes, it is incorrect.

As far as you asking me if bisexual is meaningless is progress, it's you acknowledging the fact, that it's possible that they are homosexuals, and only aren't if they genuinely truly like females, some may say a lot of them don't, including themselves, like jason collins.

Whatever the case may be, we can say for sure, they aren't heterosexuals. Thus you are implying, by asking me that question that homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals

Is this Walt from Party Down South? I love your show.

awh, logically destroyed once again, so you resort to more nonsense

 

[squistion]

Is this Walt from Party Down South? I love your show.

awh, logically destroyed once again, so you resort to more nonsense

Once again? I am still waiting for the first time.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they are bisexual

That was a long-winded way to say "Henry is right."

 

[johnjohn]

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they are bisexual

That was a long-winded way to say "Henry is right."

Now I see how you generated 10k posts, you aren't concerned about quality.

If you want to have a real discussion and respond to my entire post, not just three words of it, let me know

 

[jon_mx]

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they are bisexual

That was a long-winded way to say "Henry is right."

Even if they like sexy with grown men and young boys?

 

[Henry Ford]

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they are bisexual

That was a long-winded way to say "Henry is right."

He's clearly working on being elected judge.

 

[Henry Ford]

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they aren't heterosexuals

Weird. My dictionary tells me that men who have sex with women are heterosexual.

they are bisexual

That was a long-winded way to say "Henry is right."

Even if they like sexy with grown men and young boys?

Quote all the posts where Henry talked about that scenario. I'll check back in later.

 

[Koya]

This thread actually reminds me of something I realized a long time ago - actually 16 or so if not a bit younger.

In Judaism, there is a confirmation at the age of sixteen... It's not a big deal such as a Bar Mitzvah, but almost like a graduation of Hebrew school in a way.

In any case, all the kids had to give a speech and there was a big uproar about mine to the point where my mother and Rabbi tried to talk me out of it. I was trying to address the sensitive issue of Israeli-Arab relations. Palestinian and Pan Arab alike.

My point was here we were, generally well off, liberal, reform Jews. Accepting. Strong supporters of Civil Rights, gay friendly (our next rabbi would be a lesbian) and oh, so open minded.

But with Arabs and Palestinians especially, well, not so much. Or if YOUR daughter brought home the black guy... Not so much.

And I realized, these were good people ( by and large). Generally more giving of both time and money to charity than most of the population. Indeed probably more open minded and accepting.

But hardly perfect. And each of us in that room had moments where because of someone's race, ethnicity, clothing, sexuality, were judgemental, or less forgiving, or assumptive. I realized and my first sentence of my speech was that everyone in this room was a bigot.

And present company was included. Whether it was someone's feelings about Arabs, which was the main point, or feeling uncomfortable when a black kid got on the subway, in some way we had all been guilty.

It's a part of human nature to be distrustful of what you don't know, understand or are used to, albeit a weakness that we must overcome and is being overcome IMO. The stranger is not part of your clan. But that doesn't excuse letting that drive us to be a Klan, either.

Just a perpsective I thought worth sharing.

 

[johnjohn]

To get back on topic

“Look, I appreciate what you kids did. I really do. But this isn’t what I wanted. I’m proud to be gay. And I’m proud to be in a country where I’m free to express myself. But freedom is a two-way street. If I’m free to express myself, then the scouts have to be free to express themselves too. I know these [scout leaders]. They are good men. They are kind men. They do what they think is best for the kids. No matter how wrong we think they might be, it isn’t right for us to force them to think our way. It’s up to us to persuade and help them see the light, not extort them to. I will continue to persuade them to change their minds, but this is the wrong way to do it. So, I am hereby dropping my case and allowing the scouts their right to not allow gays into their private club.”

Big Gay Al 1 Gay Mafia 0

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Thank you for that oddly placed speech, Koya.

 

[Koya]

Thank you for that oddly placed speech, Koya.

Well, it started before the stupid riff raff back and forth that occurred over the past hour or so as I'm

on my cell.

 

[Henry Ford]

Thank you for that oddly placed speech, Koya.

Well, it started before the stupid riff raff back and forth that occurred over the past hour or so as I'mon my cell.

The riff raff appreciate your thoughtfulness and expression

 

[Koya]

Thank you for that oddly placed speech, Koya.

Well, it started before the stupid riff raff back and forth that occurred over the past hour or so as I'mon my cell.

The riff raff appreciate your thoughtfulness and expression

Just doin my part.

 

[Lutherman2112]

According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, Fifth Edition:

-Nepiophilia is attraction infants and toddlers (age 0-3). It s a sub-type of pedophilia.
-Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty (0-12) It is a mental illness.
-Hebephilia is attraction to children who are in the midst of puberty (11-15) It can be a mental illness, as not all hebephiles meet the clinical diagnosis standards.
-Ephebophilia is attraction to late-puberty (15-19)
-Teleiophilia is attraction to adults. This is the what most consider "normal", as the atraction is adults close to their age.
-Gerontophilia is the attraction to elderly people. Mostly considered a fetishistic impulse.

Approximately 2/3 of sexual abuse were committed by someone known to the victim. From U.S. Department of Justice. 2005 National Crime Victimization Study:

-73% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger.
-38% of rapists are a friend or acquaintance.
-28% are an intimate.
-7% are a relative.

Basically speaking, sexual abusers can be placed into two typologies: fixated and regressed. Perpetrators in the first typology, having a more or less exclusive interest in children, have been labeled fixated; a temporary or permanent arrestment of psychological maturation resulting from unresolved formative issues which persist and underlie the organization of subsequent phases of development. Clinically speaking, fixated perpetrators are stuck at an early stage of psychological development.

Perpetrators of the other typology have been labeled as regressed; a temporary or permanent appearance of primitive behavior after more mature forms of expression had been attained, regardless of whether the immature behavior was actually manifested earlier in the individual's development. Regressed perpetrators develop an adult sexual orientation but under certain extreme conditions they regress to an earlier, less mature psychological state and engage in sexual contact with children.

The important point to remember is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals because they are not capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals, most often fixated, are attracted to children, not to men or women.

Two researchers (Groth, A. Nicholas; Birnbaum, H. Jean (1978). "Adult sexual orientation and attraction to underage persons") conducted a study of 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..."

Tons of reserch has been done, and nearly all of it points to the fact that homosexuals are not more likely to be perpetrators of sexual abuse to children. The previously mention Dr. Groth had this to say many years after his research: Dr. A. Nicholas Groth wrote:

"Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual."

 

[johnjohn]

According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, Fifth Edition:

-Nepiophilia is attraction infants and toddlers (age 0-3). It s a sub-type of pedophilia.
-Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty (0-12) It is a mental illness.
-Hebephilia is attraction to children who are in the midst of puberty (11-15) It can be a mental illness, as not all hebephiles meet the clinical diagnosis standards.
-Ephebophilia is attraction to late-puberty (15-19)
-Teleiophilia is attraction to adults. This is the what most consider "normal", as the atraction is adults close to their age.
-Gerontophilia is the attraction to elderly people. Mostly considered a fetishistic impulse.

Approximately 2/3 of sexual abuse were committed by someone known to the victim. From U.S. Department of Justice. 2005 National Crime Victimization Study:

-73% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger.
-38% of rapists are a friend or acquaintance.
-28% are an intimate.
-7% are a relative.

Basically speaking, sexual abusers can be placed into two typologies: fixated and regressed. Perpetrators in the first typology, having a more or less exclusive interest in children, have been labeled fixated; a temporary or permanent arrestment of psychological maturation resulting from unresolved formative issues which persist and underlie the organization of subsequent phases of development. Clinically speaking, fixated perpetrators are stuck at an early stage of psychological development.

Perpetrators of the other typology have been labeled as regressed; a temporary or permanent appearance of primitive behavior after more mature forms of expression had been attained, regardless of whether the immature behavior was actually manifested earlier in the individual's development. Regressed perpetrators develop an adult sexual orientation but under certain extreme conditions they regress to an earlier, less mature psychological state and engage in sexual contact with children.

The important point to remember is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals because they are not capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals, most often fixated, are attracted to children, not to men or women.

Two researchers (Groth, A. Nicholas; Birnbaum, H. Jean (1978). "Adult sexual orientation and attraction to underage persons") conducted a study of 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..."

Tons of reserch has been done, and nearly all of it points to the fact that homosexuals are not more likely to be perpetrators of sexual abuse to children. The previously mention Dr. Groth had this to say many years after his research: Dr. A. Nicholas Groth wrote:

"Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual."

Psychology was one of the first disciplines to study homosexuality as a discrete phenomenon. Prior to and throughout most of the 20th century, common standard psychology viewed homosexuality in terms of pathological models as a mental illness.

Hope you see my point, if not, politely ask me to explain it to you, and I shall.

 

[Lutherman2112]

Psychology was one of the first disciplines to study homosexuality as a discrete phenomenon. Prior to and throughout most of the 20th century, common standard psychology viewed homosexuality in terms of pathological models as a mental illness.

Hope you see my point, if not, politely ask me to explain it to you, and I shall.

I hope you see my point when I put your first two sentences in context:

Psychology was one of the first disciplines to study homosexuality as a discrete phenomenon. Prior to and throughout most of the 20th century, common standard psychology viewed homosexuality in terms of pathological models as a mental illness. That classification began to be subjected to critical scrutiny in the research, which consistently failed to produce any empirical or scientific basis for regarding homosexuality as a disorder or abnormality. As a result of such accumulated research, professionals in medicine, mental health, and the behavioral and social sciences, opposing the classification of homosexuality as a mental disorder, claimed the conclusion that it was inaccurate, and that the DSM classification reflected untested assumptions that were based on once-prevalent social norms and clinical impressions from unrepresentative samples which consisted of patients seeking therapy and individuals whose conduct brought them into the criminal justice system.[1]

Since the 1970s, the consensus of the behavioral and social sciences and the health and mental health professions globally is that homosexuality is a normal variation of human sexual orientation, while there remain those who maintain that it is a disorder.[2] In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder. The American Psychological Association Council of Representatives followed in 1975.[3] Thereafter other major mental health organizations followed and it was finally declassified by the World Health Organization in 1990. Consequently, while some still believe homosexuality is a mental disorder, the current research and clinical literature demonstrate that same-sex sexual and romantic attractions, feelings, and behaviors are normal and positive variations of human sexuality, reflecting the official positions of the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association.

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