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The Great 2020 All Time Movie Draft- The judging is heavily biased against me. It’s a hoax! Fake news. (2 Viewers)

jwb said:
Ok, I'll do it. So I owe 2 then, right? 

Tarantino - Modern director

Comedy - Blazing Saddles

eta - writeups a bit later. Have to step out for an hour or three.
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That works - hopefully I didn't screw up but think you are in.  @timschochet - can you update the OP?  I'll get Hags to update the spreadsheet

 
4.04 Schindler's List- Based on Real Events

Spielberg's Masterpiece. brilliantly acted, written, and directed. It won 7 Oscars and had 12 nominations.

So vivid. So necessary. So powerful is Schindler's List it may be the most important film for every human to watch

 
EYLive said:
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I was asking what you're referring to since you weren't clear.
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Yeah I misread it, my apologies. Yes the slavery and it’s legacy of a “gallant age” that is devoid of the brutality and horror of the policies of slavery in the South. It helped create this fantasy idea of what The South was that still persists today.

 
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Ilov80s said:
You are the one who drafted it???
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Why shouldn’t he? 
 

Gone With the Wind is terrible as a historical document because it glamorizes slavery and the antebellum South, and even the beginnings of the KKK. But as an entertaining, narrative movie it’s magnificent, one of the greatest films of all time. 

 
tuffnutt said:
4.04 Schindler's List- Based on Real Events

Spielberg's Masterpiece. brilliantly acted, written, and directed. It won 7 Oscars and had 12 nominations.

So vivid. So necessary. So powerful is Schindler's List it may be the most important film for every human to watch
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This was on my short list if I got sniped at the turn. 

 
timschochet said:
Why shouldn’t he? 
 

Gone With the Wind is terrible as a historical document because it glamorizes slavery and the antebellum South, and even the beginnings of the KKK. But as an entertaining, narrative movie it’s magnificent, one of the greatest films of all time. 
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Yes, let's hope judges don't take the current political climate into consideration. 

(says the guy who just drafted Blazing Saddles)

 
timschochet said:
Why shouldn’t he? 
 

Gone With the Wind is terrible as a historical document because it glamorizes slavery and the antebellum South, and even the beginnings of the KKK. But as an entertaining, narrative movie it’s magnificent, one of the greatest films of all time. 
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I know, I praised it in the post prior. I misunderstood his question. 

 
Another interesting thing about GWTW is that I think it’s ahead of its time in terms of feminism- the character of Scarlett is the strongest female character on screen up to that point IMO. She is also greatly nuanced- there are aspects of her personality which are both admirable and unlikable. Characters at that time in Hollywood, especially women, were much more simplistic. And usually women were either weak heroines or strong villainous types. Scarlett was neither. It was also an amazing acting performance by a British actress. 

 
On my personal Mt. Rushmore with Bogart, Cary and Jimmy, this is the one guy who can go toe to toe with Bogie in every scene they share.  Elevates every movie he’s in and has immense  range from musical (Oscar winner) to comedy and gritty drama.  One of a kind.

Fun fact in his autobiography Cagney on Cagney he mentions my Fathers half brother Jimmy (who sadly died in WWII and is buried in Anzio) as a school chum growing up on the streets of The Lower East side of Manhattan.  I caught the off Broadway musical Cagney a few years ago for my wife and I, 25th anniversary, and it was a blast.
 

4.05- James Cagney - Best Actor

Cagney won the Academy Award in 1943 for his performance as George M. Cohan

Cagney was among the most favored actors for director Stanley Kubrick and actor Marlon Brando,[207] and was considered by Orson Welles to be "maybe the greatest actor to ever appear in front of a camera."[208] Warner Bros. arranged private screenings of Cagney films for Winston Churchill.[127]

On May 19, 2015, a new musical celebrating Cagney, and dramatizing his relationship with Warner Bros., opened off-Broadway in New York City at the York Theatre.[209] Cagney, The Musical then moved to the Westside Theatre until May 28, 2017.[210][211]
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mphtrilogy said:
On my personal Mt. Rushmore with Bogart, Cary and Jimmy, this is the one guy who can go toe to toe with Bogie in every scene they share.  Elevates every movie he’s in and has immense  range from musical (Oscar winner) to comedy and gritty drama.  One of a kind.

Fun fact in his autobiography Cagney on Cagney he mentions my Fathers half brother Jimmy (who sadly died in WWII and is buried in Anzio) as a school chum growing up on the streets of The Lower East side of Manhattan.  I caught the off Broadway musical Cagney a few years ago for my wife and I, 25th anniversary, and it was a blast.
 

4.05- James Cagney - Best Actor
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He’s the guy I referenced earlier that steals scenes from Bogart

 
You've been given a great gift, George. A chance to see what the world would be like without you.

4.06 Fantasy: It’s a Wonderful Life (1946)

dir. by Frank Capra, starring James Stewart, Donna Reed, Lionel Barrymore, Thomas Mitchell and Henry Travers. 

This could easily go into the greatest movie ever made category because it’s absolutely perfect. There’s probably no other movie that so many Americans have shed a tear at or clutched a love one to. I’m not that into swords and dragons high fantasy but this low fantasy holiday miracle will always be a movie I watch annually.

 
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Ilov80s said:
You've been given a great gift, George. A chance to see what the world would be like without you.

4.06 Fantasy: It’s a Wonderful Life (1946)

dir. by Frank Capra, starring James Stewart, Donna Reed, Lionel Barrymore, Thomas Mitchell and Henry Travers. 

This could easily go into the greatest movie ever made category because it’s absolutely perfect. There’s probably no other movie that so many Americans have shed a tear at or clutched a love one to. I’m not that into swords and dragons high fantasy but this low fantasy holiday miracle will always be a movie I watched annually.
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Yep, as good as it gets... great pick

 
timschochet said:
Another interesting thing about GWTW is that I think it’s ahead of its time in terms of feminism- the character of Scarlett is the strongest female character on screen up to that point IMO. She is also greatly nuanced- there are aspects of her personality which are both admirable and unlikable. Characters at that time in Hollywood, especially women, were much more simplistic. And usually women were either weak heroines or strong villainous types. Scarlett was neither. It was also an amazing acting performance by a British actress. 
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YAAASSS! I was going to say everything you just said but didn't click "Submit Reply" :oldunsure:  

 
timschochet said:
Another interesting thing about GWTW is that I think it’s ahead of its time in terms of feminism- the character of Scarlett is the strongest female character on screen up to that point IMO. She is also greatly nuanced- there are aspects of her personality which are both admirable and unlikable. Characters at that time in Hollywood, especially women, were much more simplistic. And usually women were either weak heroines or strong villainous types. Scarlett was neither. It was also an amazing acting performance by a British actress. 
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Scarlett is strong, no doubt, but not close to strongest by that point.  I don’t want to spotlight, but there are some pre-Hays Code movies that feature women much stronger than Scarlett.

 
Ilov80s said:
You've been given a great gift, George. A chance to see what the world would be like without you.

4.06 Fantasy: It’s a Wonderful Life (1946)

dir. by Frank Capra, starring James Stewart, Donna Reed, Lionel Barrymore, Thomas Mitchell and Henry Travers. 

This could easily go into the greatest movie ever made category because it’s absolutely perfect. There’s probably no other movie that so many Americans have shed a tear at or clutched a love one to. I’m not that into swords and dragons high fantasy but this low fantasy holiday miracle will always be a movie I watch annually.
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Love that movie. See? I have nothing against old black & white films.

 
Ilov80s said:
You've been given a great gift, George. A chance to see what the world would be like without you.

4.06 Fantasy: It’s a Wonderful Life (1946)

dir. by Frank Capra, starring James Stewart, Donna Reed, Lionel Barrymore, Thomas Mitchell and Henry Travers. 

This could easily go into the greatest movie ever made category because it’s absolutely perfect. There’s probably no other movie that so many Americans have shed a tear at or clutched a love one to. I’m not that into swords and dragons high fantasy but this low fantasy holiday miracle will always be a movie I watch annually.
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Never heard of it. 

 
Don Quixote said:
Scarlett is strong, no doubt, but not close to strongest by that point.  I don’t want to spotlight, but there are some pre-Hays Code movies that feature women much stronger than Scarlett.
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There are some post-Hayes code movies with equally strong female roles.  You just have to look for them.  Really hard.

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
We have 50 categories.  You're gonna need more judges.  And Mr R and I love documentaries.  Unless Krista shows up.  She loves them, too.
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Yep - I expect we will.  I've got you down as backup.  Definitely will end up needing them but one, we want to give more folks the chance to show off their expertise and participate and 2. we want to be as "fair" as possible - although we know everybody will judge appropriately.  Honestly, I'm just following the blueprint I've seen from previous drafts - if the majority agree to go ahead and take drafters as judges I don't care.

 
Ilov80s said:
You've been given a great gift, George. A chance to see what the world would be like without you.

4.06 Fantasy: It’s a Wonderful Life (1946)

dir. by Frank Capra, starring James Stewart, Donna Reed, Lionel Barrymore, Thomas Mitchell and Henry Travers. 

This could easily go into the greatest movie ever made category because it’s absolutely perfect. There’s probably no other movie that so many Americans have shed a tear at or clutched a love one to. I’m not that into swords and dragons high fantasy but this low fantasy holiday miracle will always be a movie I watch annually.
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mphtrilogy said:
Yep, as good as it gets... great pick
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Yep - fantastic pick and interesting category selection - not sure I would have thought of that.  I already mentioned my love of James Stewart but I :wub: this movie so hard.  I watch it every year and when this happens I always cry.  The richest man in town  :cry:

 
Ilov80s said:
It’s an old obscure movie. I don’t think it gets played on TV much. 
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I actually have seen this one.  Saw it about 3 years ago during the holidays.  I finally just gave in and watched it.  It was ok.  I didn't think it was as good as the hype (another reason going in with expectations can be problematic).

 
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Gally said:
I actually have seen this one.  Saw it about 3 years ago during the holidays.  I finally just gave in and watched it.  It was ok.  I didn't think it was as good as the hype (another reason going in with expectations can be problematic).
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I was actually a late comer to it. It was not something we watched at my house growing up. My dad thought it was corny. I only got into later when my now wife and I went to see it at a theater near Christmas. My expectations were low- I expected it to be a corny Christmas movie. I was totally unprepared for how dark it gets and how much of it is the story of a man and his failures than it is some kind of miracle. 

 
Round 4 Alfred Hitchcock - Director, Legendary

from wiki:
 

Sir Alfred Joseph Hitchcock KBE (13 August 1899 – 29 April 1980) was an English film director and producer. He is one of the most influential and extensively studied filmmakers in the history of cinema.[1] Known as the "Master of Suspense", he directed over 50 feature films[a] in a career spanning six decades, becoming as well known as any of his actors thanks to his many interviews, his cameo roles in most of his films, and his hosting and producing of the television anthology Alfred Hitchcock Presents (1955–1965). His films garnered a total of 46 Oscar nominations and 6 wins.

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The "Hitchcockian" style includes the use of camera movement to mimic a person's gaze, thereby turning viewers into voyeurs, and framing shots to maximise anxiety and fear. The film critic Robin Wood wrote that the meaning of a Hitchcock film "is there in the method, in the progression from shot to shot. A Hitchcock film is an organism, with the whole implied in every detail and every detail related to the whole."[6]

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He won two Golden Globes, eight Laurel Awards, and five lifetime achievement awards, including the first BAFTA Academy Fellowship Award[207] and, in 1979, an AFI Life Achievement Award.[11] He was nominated five times for an Academy Award for Best Director. Rebecca, nominated for 11 Oscars, won the Academy Award for Best Picture of 1940; another Hitchcock film, Foreign Correspondent, was also nominated that year.[208] By 2018, eight of his films had been selected for preservation by the US National Film Registry:
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What a body of work and what an influence he was. Some of the best suspenseful movies ever made were by the master.

 
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Gally said:
I actually have seen this one.  Saw it about 3 years ago during the holidays.  I finally just gave in and watched it.  It was ok.  I didn't think it was as good as the hype (another reason going in with expectations can be problematic).
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It's a very polarizing movie, especially here in the FFA - some people despise it.  Those people are morons.

 
Ilov80s said:
I was actually a late comer to it. It was not something we watched at my house growing up. My dad thought it was corny. I only got into later when my now wife and I went to see it at a theater near Christmas. My expectations were low- I expected it to be a corny Christmas movie. I was totally unprepared for how dark it gets and how much of it is the story of a man and his failures than it is some kind of miracle. 
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All this for me too.  I dislike Christmas movies for the most part.  Didn't watch for the first time until a few years ago, and I thought it was great.  

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Round 4 Alfred Hitchcock - Director, Legendary

from wiki:
 

What a body of work and what an influence he was. Some of the best suspenseful movies ever made were by the master.
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Just a note - and I'll make an example out of you although I think all/most of us have done it.  Please try not to spotlight. 

 
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