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The guy to target RIGHT NOW.. (1 Viewer)

Is Jamal Lewis. :ph34r:

Now, before you flame me out....hear me out.

I drafted him in 2 of 3 leagues, and he's been a major disappointment, BUT, I just watched the Ravens/Panthers game on NFL replay last night, and he did NOT look like he normally did earlier in the season. He was hitting the holes hard, and ran with power. Combined with the grumblings from him that he NEEDS 25 carries to be effective (to which I agree), and the firing of Jim Fassel, I see Billick going back to the ground game for ball control and clock control, and to keep his defense fresh.

Yes, I know their Oline is banged up, but he averaged almost 5 yards a carry vs. the Panthers, and have some decent runs. Had they stuck with the run, they could have been in that game.

Call me crazy, but I think he bounces back in 2 weeks after their bye. I'm more optimistic than I've been all season (other than opening weekend), and he could be had for next to nothing.

Ok....flame away.

 
Is Jamal Lewis. :ph34r: Now, before you flame me out....hear me out.I drafted him in 2 of 3 leagues, and he's been a major disappointment, BUT, I just watched the Ravens/Panthers game on NFL replay last night, and he did NOT look like he normally did earlier in the season. He was hitting the holes hard, and ran with power. Combined with the grumblings from him that he NEEDS 25 carries to be effective (to which I agree), and the firing of Jim Fassel, I see Billick going back to the ground game for ball control and clock control, and to keep his defense fresh.Yes, I know their Oline is banged up, but he averaged almost 5 yards a carry vs. the Panthers, and have some decent runs. Had they stuck with the run, they could have been in that game.Call me crazy, but I think he bounces back in 2 weeks after their bye. I'm more optimistic than I've been all season (other than opening weekend), and he could be had for next to nothing.Ok....flame away.
Ok you are crazy
 
He sucks. Let me count the ways.

1. He runs like a little sissy girl.

2. He gets knocked off his pins on first contact.

3. He has no vision and has no problem running into the back of his OL and falling down.

There's more but I despise this loser's lack of guts so much that I won't continue.

Shipped this turd out for a 2nd rounder in 2008 and am happy to kick is useless ### off the team.

 
He sucks. Let me count the ways.1. He runs like a little sissy girl.2. He gets knocked off his pins on first contact.3. He has no vision and has no problem running into the back of his OL and falling down.There's more but I despise this loser's lack of guts so much that I won't continue.Shipped this turd out for a 2nd rounder in 2008 and am happy to kick is useless ### off the team.
4. He rarely catches balls out of the backfield, which makes him less relevant in PPR leagues. I believe he has caught a grand total of 4 balls this year5. He is a 2 down back. Comes out on third downs which is less than ideal6. Its not clear to me that both Musa and Mike A. aren't more productive in that offense.
 
He sucks. Let me count the ways.1. He runs like a little sissy girl.2. He gets knocked off his pins on first contact.3. He has no vision and has no problem running into the back of his OL and falling down.There's more but I despise this loser's lack of guts so much that I won't continue.Shipped this turd out for a 2nd rounder in 2008 and am happy to kick is useless ### off the team.
4. He rarely catches balls out of the backfield, which makes him less relevant in PPR leagues. I believe he has caught a grand total of 4 balls this year5. He is a 2 down back. Comes out on third downs which is less than ideal6. Its not clear to me that both Musa and Mike A. aren't more productive in that offense.
7. He is old, and on a serious decline8. He does not make people miss anymore9. I would be VERY surprised if he is with the Ravens next year, so I could see his production tailinac goff as the year goes on
 
I'd be worried about Musa Smtih taking over. Nothing about Jamal's performance this year has me thinking that he'd be back in '07 so why wouldn't they take a nice long look at Musa as the 'back of the future'. Heck they probably wish they still had Chester Taylor

 
All of that stuff was true last year too wasn't it?

Just replace Musa/Mike with Chester and it's 2005.

 
If you can get him real cheap (which you probably can) he's worth a shot. I'd expect Billick to make some changes to the offense and one of them may be running the ball a lot more.

 
Agree, if you can trade him for someone like E Kennison or B Favre, than he is the guy to target RIGHT NOW

 
He sucks. Let me count the ways.

1. He runs like a little sissy girl.

2. He gets knocked off his pins on first contact.

3. He has no vision and has no problem running into the back of his OL and falling down.

There's more but I despise this loser's lack of guts so much that I won't continue.

Shipped this turd out for a 2nd rounder in 2008 and am happy to kick is useless ### off the team.
4. He rarely catches balls out of the backfield, which makes him less relevant in PPR leagues. I believe he has caught a grand total of 4 balls this year5. He is a 2 down back. Comes out on third downs which is less than ideal

6. Its not clear to me that both Musa and Mike A. aren't more productive in that offense.
7. He is old, and on a serious decline8. He does not make people miss anymore

9. I would be VERY surprised if he is with the Ravens next year, so I could see his production tailinac goff as the year goes on
He's only 27.He looks overweight, to me. He was always big, but it looked more muscular in the past.

 
I hope you're right, I acquired him over a week ago, IMO as a throw in.

The deal was Keyshawn and Damon Huard for Losman and Jamal, in a dynasty. The owner had posted he was willing to part with Jamal for a top 30-40 WR, few had the depth to make an offer, I needed a QB.

If he turns it around, great. If not, my target was Losman.

But frankly, I'd deal him for a 2nd round pick right now.

 
JuniorNB said:
wilked said:
llogilvie said:
lod2005 said:
He sucks. Let me count the ways.

1. He runs like a little sissy girl.

2. He gets knocked off his pins on first contact.

3. He has no vision and has no problem running into the back of his OL and falling down.

There's more but I despise this loser's lack of guts so much that I won't continue.

Shipped this turd out for a 2nd rounder in 2008 and am happy to kick is useless ### off the team.
4. He rarely catches balls out of the backfield, which makes him less relevant in PPR leagues. I believe he has caught a grand total of 4 balls this year5. He is a 2 down back. Comes out on third downs which is less than ideal

6. Its not clear to me that both Musa and Mike A. aren't more productive in that offense.
7. He is old, and on a serious decline8. He does not make people miss anymore

9. I would be VERY surprised if he is with the Ravens next year, so I could see his production tailinac goff as the year goes on
He's only 27.He looks overweight, to me. He was always big, but it looked more muscular in the past.
27 with about 100,000 miles + 2 major knee injuries
 
How many of the negative posters on here saw the CAR game? Show of hands?

I watched a lot of it, and the orig. poster is right, on a lot of those runs Jamal looked much better than he has earlier in the year. Def. showed more burst to the hole and was running with more power than I had previous seen.

Given the opinion of him here in the pool, he sounds like the perfect guy to target to a frustrated owner as a "throw in" type of guy. If he can be had cheap, why not grab him?

The one major positive from his lackluster performance thus far is that as bad as he has been, coaches aren't working in Musa or MA. Tells me they are sticking with Jamal.

But I guess its more fun to try to think of clever ways to disparage Jamal than constructively add to a thread, so please continue.

:rolleyes:

 
How many of the negative posters on here saw the CAR game? Show of hands?I watched a lot of it, and the orig. poster is right, on a lot of those runs Jamal looked much better than he has earlier in the year. Def. showed more burst to the hole and was running with more power than I had previous seen.Given the opinion of him here in the pool, he sounds like the perfect guy to target to a frustrated owner as a "throw in" type of guy. If he can be had cheap, why not grab him?The one major positive from his lackluster performance thus far is that as bad as he has been, coaches aren't working in Musa or MA. Tells me they are sticking with Jamal.But I guess its more fun to try to think of clever ways to disparage Jamal than constructively add to a thread, so please continue. :rolleyes:
I saw it, I watch all games twice each week (Sunday Ticket w/ Superfan and TIVO, awesome!)Jamal looked good a few times, but terrible most times. He's just not that good anymore. A big back with a ton of wear. I think we have seen this happen before many times. There is no slow decline, it's a cliff...
 
How many of the negative posters on here saw the CAR game? Show of hands?I watched a lot of it, and the orig. poster is right, on a lot of those runs Jamal looked much better than he has earlier in the year. Def. showed more burst to the hole and was running with more power than I had previous seen.Given the opinion of him here in the pool, he sounds like the perfect guy to target to a frustrated owner as a "throw in" type of guy. If he can be had cheap, why not grab him?The one major positive from his lackluster performance thus far is that as bad as he has been, coaches aren't working in Musa or MA. Tells me they are sticking with Jamal.But I guess its more fun to try to think of clever ways to disparage Jamal than constructively add to a thread, so please continue. :rolleyes:
those disparging comments the posts have made about Jamal, while mildly amusing, are also almost entirely true. now if you want to take all the warning signs and his HORRIBLE season so far and disgregard it because you thought he looked good on 9 carries last Sunday, fine - go right ahead. But don't :rolleyes: at other people who feel differently and are talking Lewis' entire body of work this season and looking at a RB who looks DONE.
 
My :rolleyes: was more aimed at the general attitude the shark pool forms about certain players who are "worthless" and then posters feel the need to all line up, squat and dump all over said player and any poster who deigns to start a semi-positive thread re: said player.

Its not like the poster was going on to proclaim Jamal was a top 10 back forward. Simply that based on the last game he could move from below-average to average. I think vs. CAR he looked average. Which sadly, is an improvement.

I'd prefer that rather than parrot the same tried-and-true predictable criticisms re: Jamal (or any other "done" player) that they maybe offer something slightly incisive.

For instance, in another thread I inquired about Rick Nieuhisal (?) as the Ravens OC and what impact this would have on their O. Someone posted what Rick N's teams looked like in college, offensively, and he actually was criticized in later years at Colorado for being too pass-oriented.

Given this knowledge, I would tend to think Rick was promoted to "open up" the offense, and thus perhaps Jamal is not destined for an ascension to Average, and might instead stay below-average the rest of the year.

This is the kind of info I would prefer to read in a post like this. But that's just me. I only have a few minutes in the morning and an hour or so when I get home from work to read the Shark Pool, so I prefer to get as much real information as possible.

:shrug:

 
wilked said:
llogilvie said:
lod2005 said:
He sucks. Let me count the ways.1. He runs like a little sissy girl.2. He gets knocked off his pins on first contact.3. He has no vision and has no problem running into the back of his OL and falling down.There's more but I despise this loser's lack of guts so much that I won't continue.Shipped this turd out for a 2nd rounder in 2008 and am happy to kick is useless ### off the team.
4. He rarely catches balls out of the backfield, which makes him less relevant in PPR leagues. I believe he has caught a grand total of 4 balls this year5. He is a 2 down back. Comes out on third downs which is less than ideal6. Its not clear to me that both Musa and Mike A. aren't more productive in that offense.
7. He is old, and on a serious decline8. He does not make people miss anymore9. I would be VERY surprised if he is with the Ravens next year, so I could see his production tailinac goff as the year goes on
concur times 9. :hey: dude is a shell of his former self.I dumped him from 2 dynasty teams before the start of the season,and I am sleeping well at night. :yawn:
 
How many of the negative posters on here saw the CAR game? Show of hands?I watched a lot of it, and the orig. poster is right, on a lot of those runs Jamal looked much better than he has earlier in the year. Def. showed more burst to the hole and was running with more power than I had previous seen.
This is definitely true. Jamal had a few great carries where he looked like the Jamal of old, getting to the 2nd and 3rd level of the defense by hitting the hole hard and breaking tackles. Remember, he was facing Denver and San Diego and playing from behind when he was putting up poor numbers the last 2 weeks heading into the Carolina game. A lot of people are going to be surprised by his 2nd half performance.
 
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I understand everyone's skepticism regarding him. BELIEVE ME...I wanted to throw a brick through my TV a couple of times watching his sissy ### run into his Oline and trip over his shoe laces.

But, think about it this way. You could get the STARTING RB for a pound-n-ground team, who's been a underachiever for the past 2 years now, for basically a 3rd or 4th string WR. I wouldn't doubt that some teams in smaller leagues would flat out dump him for the likes of Najeh Davenport, etc.

I'm not guaranteeing anything, but the you have to admit the POTENTIAL for upside is pretty big, ESPECIALLY if McNair loses the starting job. I for one thought Boller really improved his game towards the end of year last year, and opening up the offense (passing) will keep the 8 and 9 man fronts away, which in turn could open up the running game.

all I'm saying is why not give it a shot. The guy who owns him will probably pay you to take him away.

And the upside could be huge.

Now back to my Cap'n Cokes. :banned:

 
How many of the negative posters on here saw the CAR game? Show of hands?I watched a lot of it, and the orig. poster is right, on a lot of those runs Jamal looked much better than he has earlier in the year. Def. showed more burst to the hole and was running with more power than I had previous seen.
This is definitely true. Jamal had a few great carries where he looked like the Jamal of old, getting to the 2nd and 3rd level of the defense by hitting the hole hard and breaking tackles. Remember, he was facing Denver and San Diego and playing from behind when he was putting up poor numbers the last 2 weeks heading into the Carolina game. A lot of people are going to be surprised by his 2nd half performance.
Considering your expectations of improvement for the rest of the season and his relateively young age, I'm wondering why then you have him ranked so low in your dynasty rankings? RB35 I think. Will you be upgrading him based on last week's performance? Obviously this is dynasty rankings, but he's also ranked pretty low on the top 250 moving forward (which I know is Dodds' work and not yours).
 
Granted JLew has looked beyond horrific. I'm keeping him on my roster until I have absolutely no choice. With the changes being made in Balty, it cant get any worse. The poster may be on to something here.

 
excellent theory, but unless Billick can put Lewis in a time machine and have 2003 Lewis "pop" out, I don't see how him making the play calls will make any difference for a tired old man... ESPECIALLY if Boller has to fill in for a loopy McNair.

 
JuniorNB said:
wilked said:
llogilvie said:
lod2005 said:
He sucks. Let me count the ways.

1. He runs like a little sissy girl.

2. He gets knocked off his pins on first contact.

3. He has no vision and has no problem running into the back of his OL and falling down.

There's more but I despise this loser's lack of guts so much that I won't continue.

Shipped this turd out for a 2nd rounder in 2008 and am happy to kick is useless ### off the team.
4. He rarely catches balls out of the backfield, which makes him less relevant in PPR leagues. I believe he has caught a grand total of 4 balls this year5. He is a 2 down back. Comes out on third downs which is less than ideal

6. Its not clear to me that both Musa and Mike A. aren't more productive in that offense.
7. He is old, and on a serious decline8. He does not make people miss anymore

9. I would be VERY surprised if he is with the Ravens next year, so I could see his production tailinac goff as the year goes on
He's only 27.He looks overweight, to me. He was always big, but it looked more muscular in the past.
27 with about 100,000 miles + 2 major knee injuries
So 27 is old? Lets compare 2 RB's careersJ. Lewis

27 years old

81 games

1605 carries

7021 yrds

4.4 ypc career

3.6ypc this year

LT

27years old

84 games

1813 carries

7768yards

4.3 ypc career

3.7 ypc this year

Now I am not saying that JL is as good as LT but as for running the ball they have almost the same ypc this year and no one is saying that LT's running is on the decline....now LT does way more cathcing the ball and scores more TD's but he always has.

If Lewis were given 25+ carries a game he would put up very good #'s

But as the 33 ranked RB he is a very good 3rd RB on most rosters and will only get better if he gets the carries

 
How many of the negative posters on here saw the CAR game? Show of hands?I watched a lot of it, and the orig. poster is right, on a lot of those runs Jamal looked much better than he has earlier in the year. Def. showed more burst to the hole and was running with more power than I had previous seen.
This is definitely true. Jamal had a few great carries where he looked like the Jamal of old, getting to the 2nd and 3rd level of the defense by hitting the hole hard and breaking tackles. Remember, he was facing Denver and San Diego and playing from behind when he was putting up poor numbers the last 2 weeks heading into the Carolina game. A lot of people are going to be surprised by his 2nd half performance.
Considering your expectations of improvement for the rest of the season and his relateively young age, I'm wondering why then you have him ranked so low in your dynasty rankings? RB35 I think. Will you be upgrading him based on last week's performance? Obviously this is dynasty rankings, but he's also ranked pretty low on the top 250 moving forward (which I know is Dodds' work and not yours).
He's low in my dynasty rankings because he's signed to the functional equivalent to a one year deal. There's a lot of uncertainty in his future. If he starts to perform well enough to ensure that he'll get a decent role somewhere in 07, whether it's baltimore or not, then he'll start to climb again - the potential is there. For now, you have to take the cautious approach, because Lewis could fall into RB purgatory. As we well know, there at least a few backup RBs that are starting quality (or will be soon). Until Lewis returns to the form of an RB you can at least plug in confidently as a flex each week, i would take those RBs and the aging vets that are still producing at their old levels ahead of Lewis in a dynasty initial draft.
 
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JuniorNB said:
wilked said:
llogilvie said:
lod2005 said:
He sucks. Let me count the ways.

1. He runs like a little sissy girl.

2. He gets knocked off his pins on first contact.

3. He has no vision and has no problem running into the back of his OL and falling down.

There's more but I despise this loser's lack of guts so much that I won't continue.

Shipped this turd out for a 2nd rounder in 2008 and am happy to kick is useless ### off the team.
4. He rarely catches balls out of the backfield, which makes him less relevant in PPR leagues. I believe he has caught a grand total of 4 balls this year5. He is a 2 down back. Comes out on third downs which is less than ideal

6. Its not clear to me that both Musa and Mike A. aren't more productive in that offense.
7. He is old, and on a serious decline8. He does not make people miss anymore

9. I would be VERY surprised if he is with the Ravens next year, so I could see his production tailinac goff as the year goes on
He's only 27.He looks overweight, to me. He was always big, but it looked more muscular in the past.
27 with about 100,000 miles + 2 major knee injuries :own3d:
So 27 is old? Lets compare 2 RB's careersJ. Lewis

27 years old

81 games

1605 carries

7021 yrds

4.4 ypc career

3.6ypc this year

LT

27years old

84 games

1813 carries

7768yards

4.3 ypc career

3.7 ypc this year

Now I am not saying that JL is as good as LT but as for running the ball they have almost the same ypc this year and no one is saying that LT's running is on the decline....now LT does way more cathcing the ball and scores more TD's but he always has.

If Lewis were given 25+ carries a game he would put up very good #'s

But as the 33 ranked RB he is a very good 3rd RB on most rosters and will only get better if he gets the carries
:goodposting:
 
The only complete game i saw was the DEN/BAL game. Lewis looked awful and I thought Anderson and Smith looked better when they came into the game.

sell.

 
I have Jlew in my keep 2 league and I have been trying to deal him this week for a servicable WR. I offered JLew, Alex Smith and Tony Gonzales to the Steve Smith owner. He didn't bite. Bear in mind this is a deep league with 15 owners and guys like David Tyree or Kevin Faulk are not even saitting on the waiver wire. From that action alone, I think I have no other choice but to hold him because I can't find a dance partner to trade him to.

 
I drafted lewis, I paid close attention to him and then I dumped him for Musa Smith. Even if Lewis keeps his job, he won't do much. I don't think he looked any better vs. Carolina. He never catches passes and my league is a ppr league. His 20 carries for 65 yards and 0 receptions just isn't going to do it for me. After i dumped him 2 weeks ago, someone claimed him off of waivers of course, but then dumped him today for wali lundy. I'd be surprised if anyone claimed him. The guy has shown and done nothing.

 
He's low in my dynasty rankings because he's signed to the functional equivalent to a one year deal. There's a lot of uncertainty in his future. If he starts to perform well enough to ensure that he'll get a decent role somewhere in 07, whether it's baltimore or not, then he'll start to climb again - the potential is there. For now, you have to take the cautious approach, because Lewis could fall into RB purgatory. As we well know, there at least a few backup RBs that are starting quality (or will be soon). Until Lewis returns to the form of an RB you can at least plug in confidently as a flex each week, i would take those RBs and the aging vets that are still producing at their old levels ahead of Lewis in a dynasty initial draft.
Now you have me wondering, if he gets another chance with another team, where would it be?I would think his style would mesh well in Pittsburgh, but cannot see them signing him.Indy? Not a receiving RB, but their running game hasn't been overly impressive.I'd like to see him as Larry Johnson's backup, but not sure if KC would be interested.
 
I drafted lewis, I paid close attention to him and then I dumped him for Musa Smith. Even if Lewis keeps his job, he won't do much. I don't think he looked any better vs. Carolina. He never catches passes and my league is a ppr league. His 20 carries for 65 yards and 0 receptions just isn't going to do it for me. After i dumped him 2 weeks ago, someone claimed him off of waivers of course, but then dumped him today for wali lundy. I'd be surprised if anyone claimed him. The guy has shown and done nothing.
I respectfully disagree. He looked MUCH better vs Carolina IMHO.Not that that's any idication of future performance. Obviously there's no guarantee's.Maybe I'm just trying to find the silver lining. ;)
 
I drafted lewis, I paid close attention to him and then I dumped him for Musa Smith. Even if Lewis keeps his job, he won't do much. I don't think he looked any better vs. Carolina. He never catches passes and my league is a ppr league. His 20 carries for 65 yards and 0 receptions just isn't going to do it for me. After i dumped him 2 weeks ago, someone claimed him off of waivers of course, but then dumped him today for wali lundy. I'd be surprised if anyone claimed him. The guy has shown and done nothing.
I respectfully disagree. He looked MUCH better vs Carolina IMHO.Not that that's any idication of future performance. Obviously there's no guarantee's.Maybe I'm just trying to find the silver lining. ;)
Nothing wrong with that. His runs were clearly lacking conviction vs. Denver and San Diego, so it was a pleasant surprise to see him rumbling through the hole like classic Jamal on Sunday.
 
JuniorNB said:
wilked said:
llogilvie said:
lod2005 said:
He sucks. Let me count the ways.

1. He runs like a little sissy girl.

2. He gets knocked off his pins on first contact.

3. He has no vision and has no problem running into the back of his OL and falling down.

There's more but I despise this loser's lack of guts so much that I won't continue.

Shipped this turd out for a 2nd rounder in 2008 and am happy to kick is useless ### off the team.
4. He rarely catches balls out of the backfield, which makes him less relevant in PPR leagues. I believe he has caught a grand total of 4 balls this year5. He is a 2 down back. Comes out on third downs which is less than ideal

6. Its not clear to me that both Musa and Mike A. aren't more productive in that offense.
7. He is old, and on a serious decline8. He does not make people miss anymore

9. I would be VERY surprised if he is with the Ravens next year, so I could see his production tailinac goff as the year goes on
He's only 27.He looks overweight, to me. He was always big, but it looked more muscular in the past.
27 with about 100,000 miles + 2 major knee injuries
So 27 is old? Lets compare 2 RB's careersJ. Lewis

27 years old

81 games

1605 carries

7021 yrds

4.4 ypc career

3.6ypc this year

LT

27years old

84 games

1813 carries

7768yards

4.3 ypc career

3.7 ypc this year

Now I am not saying that JL is as good as LT but as for running the ball they have almost the same ypc this year and no one is saying that LT's running is on the decline....now LT does way more cathcing the ball and scores more TD's but he always has.

If Lewis were given 25+ carries a game he would put up very good #'s

But as the 33 ranked RB he is a very good 3rd RB on most rosters and will only get better if he gets the carries
You can dig up all the stats you want, but the bolded statement above says it all... you take away lewis' ridiculous 2003 season, and there is no comparison whatsoever... LT has been the model of consistency, and has always had a nose for the endzone (double digit TDs every season) while lewis has never scored more than 7 with exception to his 2003 season...
 
lod2005 said:
He sucks. Let me count the ways.1. He runs like a little sissy girl.2. He gets knocked off his pins on first contact.3. He has no vision and has no problem running into the back of his OL and falling down.
Larry Johnson YPC : 3.4Jamal Lewis YPC : 3.6
 
I think that JL is done as far as the Ravens go. He might be able to revive his career somewhere else, but it doesn't look good. Figured that I would comment on the original question of who else?

1) Caddy- he has had a very difficult schedule to start the year and the offense has been horrible. He can only go up.

2) CJ- Bengals offense is looking bad and having people doubting. Get him before they remember how to play.

3) Lamont Jordan- the team sucks and probably wont put up great stats. But the schedule for the Raiders in the fantasy playoffs and last few games of the season is great.

4) Gonzo- stats have suffered w/o Green, he will be back soon to revitalize the offense. LJ's stats will also inprove.

 
Chad Johnson is the correct answer here. He's breaking out soon (hopefully he'll hurt something before the Saints game). The guy has huge amounts of talent and it's looking more and more like they need to return to gameplaying for getting him the ball. Housh just won't get it done all on his own. Sometime in the next two games he's going to explode, and he can be gotten cheaply based on his performance so far coupled with his upcoming schedule.

 
'Oct 19 2006, 09:26 AM'
If you can slam CnC at 11:30 am ET on a Thursday, no wonder you have time to imagine Jamal Lewis tearing up the league again.
El Capitan can't do that much harm. It may be it's drug induced.
:lmao: And Pygmy's right - the guy to target right now is CJ - he still won't come cheap., but you can probably get him and it could easily be the last time he's a buy low candidate this year.

 

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