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"The Interview" FFA Approved, except by TobiasFunke (1 Viewer)
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rockaction
Footballguy
No, it was non-fiction. But, yes, kind of comedic in a seriously twisted and ironic way.
But my larger point is that satire is comedic, and if done well, can bring light to an abhorrent situation through subtle analysis and humor. Also, I do not subscribe to the notion that nobody shall laugh while others are oppressed.
We'd never laugh. I'm not sure any human abuse, if properly understood, is so sacrosanct that it is above humor.
I agree with you. Just don't think this fart/d&*k joke movie is a satire bringing awareness to the situation. Perhaps I'm wrong and it does.
I am sure this fits under the notion that "they all look alike" but Kim Jong Un is not the golfer, that was his father. I don't know why, but it irks me when people don't know the difference.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
In our end of the world office pool people laughed when I predicted that Franco and Rogen were going to start World War III which would reduce sunshine reaching the surface of the planet for several years, leading to mass population migrations which would cause a global super-pandemic. My prediction is looking pretty good right now.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Yeah, sure, his Pops was the first to do it, but are you saying you doubt his ability to match his old man's prowess on the links? BTW, could the feat ever be duplicated by a golfer using only 1 club the entire round, and if so which club?I am sure this fits under the notion that "they all look alike" but Kim Jong Un is not the golfer, that was his father. I don't know why, but it irks me when people don't know the difference.
I had a buddy in law school who hit driver off every tee. Distance was not a factor - for par 3's he would just choke up a bit.Yeah, sure, his Pops was the first to do it, but are you saying you doubt his ability to match his old man's prowess on the links? BTW, could the feat ever be duplicated by a golfer using only 1 club the entire round, and if so which club?I am sure this fits under the notion that "they all look alike" but Kim Jong Un is not the golfer, that was his father. I don't know why, but it irks me when people don't know the difference.
Of course, he was not a very good golfer, but he scored surprisingly well for a guy who probably hit his driver 30+ times a round.
As for the question, I would go with a radio-active 8-iron. Ball would disintegrate after leaving the face of the club - and who is going to question someone holding a radio active golf club?
Fennis
Footballguy
probably because people are in death campsI am sure this fits under the notion that "they all look alike" but Kim Jong Un is not the golfer, that was his father. I don't know why, but it irks me when people don't know the difference.
Fennis
Footballguy
Roy McAvoy used a 7 ironYeah, sure, his Pops was the first to do it, but are you saying you doubt his ability to match his old man's prowess on the links? BTW, could the feat ever be duplicated by a golfer using only 1 club the entire round, and if so which club?I am sure this fits under the notion that "they all look alike" but Kim Jong Un is not the golfer, that was his father. I don't know why, but it irks me when people don't know the difference.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Seems kind of odd to decide that NOW we can't make fun of foreign dictators.
Chaplin did it for Christ's sake. Not to mention 30 Rock and everything the South Park guys have ever done.
Chaplin did it for Christ's sake. Not to mention 30 Rock and everything the South Park guys have ever done.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
So did the Three Stooges.
"You Nazty Spy!"
Satire is one of the great things we do in this country, it makes us powerful actually.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
saintfool
Dead sexy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
A solid choice for most mortal golfers trying to shoot their best score, but to shoot a round of 18 you have to be able to reach those par 5's in 1. I think you have to use a zero iron. What's a zero iron, hell I don't know, but I bet Kim Jung Un does.Roy McAvoy used a 7 ironYeah, sure, his Pops was the first to do it, but are you saying you doubt his ability to match his old man's prowess on the links? BTW, could the feat ever be duplicated by a golfer using only 1 club the entire round, and if so which club?I am sure this fits under the notion that "they all look alike" but Kim Jong Un is not the golfer, that was his father. I don't know why, but it irks me when people don't know the difference.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
They appear to be serious about this declaration of war...
Maybe we should just nuke them to shut them the #### up
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/threats-made-to-theaters-showing-sony-movie-2014-12-16?dist=afterbell
It is one thing to hack Sony and release some salaries and private conversations, but to threaten moviegoers, now they're crossing a line.
Maybe we should just nuke them to shut them the #### up
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/threats-made-to-theaters-showing-sony-movie-2014-12-16?dist=afterbell
It is one thing to hack Sony and release some salaries and private conversations, but to threaten moviegoers, now they're crossing a line.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
They are crossing the line. If they actually do it it's a red line for North Korea's future existence.They appear to be serious about this declaration of war...
Maybe we should just nuke them to shut them the #### up
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/threats-made-to-theaters-showing-sony-movie-2014-12-16?dist=afterbell
It is one thing to hack Sony and release some salaries and private conversations, but to threaten moviegoers, now they're crossing a line.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
These hackers do not seem terribly bad ###.
Ok - shelling South Korea is OK, sinking a naval vessel is OK, but if you harm one movie theater, we are going nuclear.They are crossing the line. If they actually do it it's a red line for North Korea's future existence.They appear to be serious about this declaration of war...
Maybe we should just nuke them to shut them the #### up
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/threats-made-to-theaters-showing-sony-movie-2014-12-16?dist=afterbell
It is one thing to hack Sony and release some salaries and private conversations, but to threaten moviegoers, now they're crossing a line.
What could go wrong with that foreign policy?
(not to mention this probably isn't being done by North Korea, and its just a ploy to drive down profits at Sony)
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Yeah, but if it happened the people doing it might be trying to create such a situation.Ok - shelling South Korea is OK, sinking a naval vessel is OK, but if you harm one movie theater, we are going nuclear.They are crossing the line. If they actually do it it's a red line for North Korea's future existence.They appear to be serious about this declaration of war...
Maybe we should just nuke them to shut them the #### up
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/threats-made-to-theaters-showing-sony-movie-2014-12-16?dist=afterbell
It is one thing to hack Sony and release some salaries and private conversations, but to threaten moviegoers, now they're crossing a line.
What could go wrong with that foreign policy?
(not to mention this probably isn't being done by North Korea, and its just a ploy to drive down profits at Sony)
If thats the case - just lock up Cheney now and put an end to this nonsense.Yeah, but if it happened the people doing it might be trying to create such a situation.Ok - shelling South Korea is OK, sinking a naval vessel is OK, but if you harm one movie theater, we are going nuclear.They are crossing the line. If they actually do it it's a red line for North Korea's future existence.They appear to be serious about this declaration of war...
Maybe we should just nuke them to shut them the #### up
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/threats-made-to-theaters-showing-sony-movie-2014-12-16?dist=afterbell
It is one thing to hack Sony and release some salaries and private conversations, but to threaten moviegoers, now they're crossing a line.
What could go wrong with that foreign policy?
(not to mention this probably isn't being done by North Korea, and its just a ploy to drive down profits at Sony)
Speculation of the next leak - Sony's 2015 movies
They look awful. Sony may be doing this on purpose.
They look awful. Sony may be doing this on purpose.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Wow, the hackers have won... Hopefully it gets to PPV quickly as I would like to view.
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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The preview I saw looked awful. I used to like Rogen/Franco, but I'd not waste a minute's time.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Before I knew there was any sort of boycott or controversy my wife and I had multiple discussions about how this looked like Razzie gold. It's painful seeing Lizzy Caplan in the previews. Someone should make a movie about the ridiculous propaganda campaign that somehow convinced her it was a good idea to do this movie.
3C's
Footballguy
would have been scary if they'd said "Remember, remember, the 11th of September."They appear to be serious about this declaration of war...
Maybe we should just nuke them to shut them the #### up
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/threats-made-to-theaters-showing-sony-movie-2014-12-16?dist=afterbell
It is one thing to hack Sony and release some salaries and private conversations, but to threaten moviegoers, now they're crossing a line.
rockaction
Footballguy
This sounds like the worst shtick ever or state-sponsored censorship. Nobody should pull this movie, and people that want to see it should go see it. This disturbs me.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
You know those theater companies are private companies, right? How is this "state-sponsored censorship"? Isn't the freedom of private parties to behave as they see fit kind of your whole deal?
Boy, you libertarians are hard to figure out sometimes.
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Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
rockaction
Footballguy
I knew that would be a problem. That's also why I've said to ignore me today (you can't possibly know that). Let me flesh that out. Any time another state imposes its will like that upon freedom of movement, restrictions of speech, or restrictions of any kind of fundamental right that we take for granted because of nation-state inspired terroristic threats, I call that "state-sponsored." It's not state-sponsored on our end.
I am not talking about private companies and their rights to pull movies from their private property, though I vehemently socially disagree. I'm not talking about private companies' obligations. It strikes me that this whole thing has been state-sponsored, in its truest sense. That is, emanating from NoKo, designed and achieving the exact effect it wants.
eta* I understand the distinction between the refusal to host speech and active state sanctions on speech, in a nutshell. I just think that the results, mixed with and due to the terroristic threats, show that NoKo has de facto planted their government right in the heart of our industry. And that shouldn't be allowed to happen. It is not a legal obligation, it is a moral one.
I hope that clarifies.
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The Flying Elvis
Footballguy
Do people really think that this whole thing is sponsored by North Korea? They are a brutal country and bat#### crazy but they are not going to commit terrorist bombings in the US. They are insane but not insane enough to declare war on the US.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
I think you mean capable. They barely got their test flight missiles off the ground. TNT seems to be a stretch.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I understand the movie theaters have the right to make a choice, but what does it say about the security (lack of security) of this country if we actually believe that are North Korean sleeper agents are this much of a threat to us. Just crazy.
If I am Sony I release this movie outright--VOD, HBO, HULU whatever you need to do to get on as many home tv screens as you can. If theaters are not going to show it, you are losing money hand over fist--you are going to have to recoup it somehow.
If I am Sony I release this movie outright--VOD, HBO, HULU whatever you need to do to get on as many home tv screens as you can. If theaters are not going to show it, you are losing money hand over fist--you are going to have to recoup it somehow.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I have a sneaking suspicion that if this was Guardians of the Galaxy or The Hunger Games theaters wouldn't be pulling it due to vague security threats.
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Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I agree to a point, but what if it is next time?
Christmas is weird (IMO) that it is one of the biggest movies days around. With the buzz, both negative and positive, this movie has received, this movie would have raked in some cash deservedly or not.
Jayrod
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I disagree... While this movie wasn't at the blockbuster level as the aforementioned, it was still an anticipated film that Sony intended to do well. $45MM budget, and while it isn't a Spiderman like movie, it still isn't exactly an Indie flick either.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Un-Believable.
I can't believe "they" shut this movie down. It's a POS movie I'm sure, but what a defeat for free speech. Just wait until something important comes out or is shown on tv, this will just lead to more of this.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Well whoever did it got someone to write the malware code in Korean (source - CNN).
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
The "they" in this equation are private companies who decided not to show the movie. Nobody's stopping Seth Rogen from buying a theater and showing it himself.
If people cared about this they could very easily decide to boycott those theaters in the future. They don't, and they won't. Like I said, this would be a lot different if it was a movie that looked good. Hell if this was a Coen Brothers movie I'd be leading the damn boycott myself.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Yeah they're responding to the threats.
Sony and the distributors did not have to shut it down, I agree, but the perps (hackers, whoever's behind this) are the ones that forced them into this.
mquinnjr
Footballguy
So, when I go to download this movie off of BitTorrent once it is released, is my home then going to be invaded by these sleeper agents, who you will read in my obit attacked me with plastic light sabres and yelled really, really loudly until I perished?
TIA
TIA
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
My understanding was that Sony's not pulling it, the theaters are deciding not to show it. So your issue is with ... who, exactly? The theater companies? Do they have some moral or ethical duty to show the movie? They're businesses. If you think they made the wrong call, hit 'em where it hurts, in the wallet. It's naive to act like this was a simple decision based on the threats only, though. They probably saw a mediocre to bad movie and decided it wasn't worth the business risk. If substantial profit was in the cards I have a feeling the decision might have been different.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
It was pulled bc there were credible threats of violence, not anything due to the movie being bad or a business risk to financials. Just bc TobiasFunke doesn't like the movie doesn't mean it wouldn't have done well financially.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Now you can complain about Sony pulling it:
Don't get me wrong, I think this is silly of the theaters. I just think you're being incredibly naive if you think it would have gone down this way if the movie was looking like a well-reviewed blockbuster.