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"The Interview" FFA Approved, except by TobiasFunke (1 Viewer)

Do you want to see this movie?

  • Yes

    Votes: 70 69.3%

  • No

    Votes: 31 30.7%
  • Total voters
    101
TobiasFunke said:
Now you can complain about Sony pulling it:

@AP: BREAKING: Sony Pictures cancels Dec. 25 release of 'The Interview'
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Don't get me wrong, I think this is silly of the theaters. I just think you're being incredibly naive if you think it would have gone down this way if the movie was looking like a well-reviewed blockbuster.
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Right. The same way they pulled the plug on the third Batman movie after the shooting in CO.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Now you can complain about Sony pulling it:

@AP: BREAKING: Sony Pictures cancels Dec. 25 release of 'The Interview'
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Don't get me wrong, I think this is silly of the theaters. I just think you're being incredibly naive if you think it would have gone down this way if the movie was looking like a well-reviewed blockbuster.
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:kicksrock:

I actually wanted to see this.

 
mquinnjr said:
TobiasFunke said:
Now you can complain about Sony pulling it:

@AP: BREAKING: Sony Pictures cancels Dec. 25 release of 'The Interview'
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Don't get me wrong, I think this is silly of the theaters. I just think you're being incredibly naive if you think it would have gone down this way if the movie was looking like a well-reviewed blockbuster.
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:kicksrock:

I actually wanted to see this.
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I'm guessing you'll be able to watch it from the comfort of your home sooner rather than later. Maybe even on December 25. That could be a nice little trick by Sony to tap into the buzz.

 
So now we've let the world know all you need to do is send a few threats and you can get a major movie canceled? What about books, articles, blogs, tv programs? Where is this going? RIP free speech?

 
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mrip541 said:
So now we've let the world know all you need to do is send a few threats and you can get a major movie canceled? What about books, articles, blogs, tv programs? Where is this going? RIP free speech?
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Well, it's a big boost for the power of hacking. Sad times.

 
mrip541 said:
So now we've let the world know all you need to do is send a few threats and you can get a major movie canceled? What about books, articles, blogs, tv programs? Where is this going? RIP free speech?
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Not saying I would pull the movie, but it's more then idle threats when they've already done so much damage to Sony.

 
Daywalker said:
mrip541 said:
So now we've let the world know all you need to do is send a few threats and you can get a major movie canceled? What about books, articles, blogs, tv programs? Where is this going? RIP free speech?
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Not saying I would pull the movie, but it's more then idle threats when they've already done so much damage to Sony.
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Maybe, maybe not. Its one thing to hack into a computer network, its another to blow up a movie theater.

 
TobiasFunke said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
TobiasFunke said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
North Korea 1

United States 0

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Un-Believable.

I can't believe "they" shut this movie down. It's a POS movie I'm sure, but what a defeat for free speech. Just wait until something important comes out or is shown on tv, this will just lead to more of this.
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The "they" in this equation are private companies who decided not to show the movie. Nobody's stopping Seth Rogen from buying a theater and showing it himself.

If people cared about this they could very easily decide to boycott those theaters in the future. They don't, and they won't. Like I said, this would be a lot different if it was a movie that looked good. Hell if this was a Coen Brothers movie I'd be leading the damn boycott myself.
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Yeah they're responding to the threats.

Sony and the distributors did not have to shut it down, I agree, but the perps (hackers, whoever's behind this) are the ones that forced them into this.
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My understanding was that Sony's not pulling it, the theaters are deciding not to show it. So your issue is with ... who, exactly? The theater companies? Do they have some moral or ethical duty to show the movie? They're businesses. If you think they made the wrong call, hit 'em where it hurts, in the wallet. It's naive to act like this was a simple decision based on the threats only, though. They probably saw a mediocre to bad movie and decided it wasn't worth the business risk. If substantial profit was in the cards I have a feeling the decision might have been different.
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U.S. investigators have determined hackers working for North Korea were behind the Sony hack and an announcement could come as soon as Thursday, U.S. law enforcement sources told CNN.
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I think we have a problem here. If this is true (IF) then that means NK is behind the hack and the threats, no?

If so a foreign nation tells us what we can and cannot watch under threat of attack?

There is this movie (ok who cares, though there is the principle) and then there is the precedent set as to next time.

Though maybe this isn't the precedent, maybe the precedent was the incident with Comedy Central where they censored edited the South Park episode mocking people who caved into the Danish mohammed cartoons tragicomedy. And here we are again.

 
Top Conservative Cat ‏@TeaPartyCat ·

BREAKING: Sony canceled the Christmas release of "The Interview". Lindsey Graham outraged, demands Obama invade North Korea immediately.

 
I think most governments of other countries would disavow that the hackers were actually working for the country. but NK appears crazy enough to say, "yeah, we did it. so what?" I agree that's a dangerous precedent.

interesting to see what happens from here, and what our response is...if any.

 
so will they just sell a dvd of it or something i mean it is not like they just you know what can it right brohans

 
SWC said:
so will they just sell a dvd of it or something i mean it is not like they just you know what can it right brohans
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Well actually...

North Korea WILL get to see Kim Jong-un assassination movie The Interview, as activists plan to send copies of DVD over the border attached to helium balloons
  • 15-ft balloons are used to smuggle censored material into North Korea
  • Copies of movie will drift from South Korea and scatter over Pyongyang
  • Viewing certain censored movies in North Korea can result in execution
  • The Interview has been center of controversy since hackers targeted Sony
  • North Korea said releasing it will be 'act of war that we will never tolerate'
  • Theaters pulled out of showing it after hackers promised 9/11-style attacks

North Korean defectors are planning to attach DVDs of The Interview to 15-foot helium balloons, which they will send over the border into their home country.

Fighters for a Free North Korea, led by former government propagandist Park Sang Hak, has for years used the tactic to smuggle transistor radios, DVDs and leaflets into North Korea.

If all goes to plan, the latest move will see dozens of copies of the Seth Rogen movie released from South Korea and drifting for several hours before scattering over Pyongyang.


Few people have access to any uncensored media in North Korea, but the regime is particularly opposed to The Interview as it involves a CIA plot to assassinate leader Kim Jong-un.

The Human Rights Foundation in New York, founded by Thor Halvorssen, has been helping fund the balloon drops and said the next one is due in January.


Halvorssen told The Hollywood Reporter that the past dozen or so drops have included copies of movies and TV shows like Braveheart, Battlestar Galactica and Desperate Housewives.

Although The Interview will not be out on DVD at the start of next year, Halvorssen said copies of the comedy will be included in the drops as soon as it is.


'Despite all of that there is a huge thirst for knowledge and information from the outside world.

'North Koreans risk their lives to watch Hollywood films ... and The Interview is tremendously threatening to the Kims.

'They cannot abide by anything that portrays them as anything other than a god. This movie destroys the narrative.'

The 15-foot long helium balloons are capable of reaching heights of around 16,000 feet and can drift for hundreds of miles, before timers tell them to release their loads.

As well as DVDs and radios, they are also used to distribute any-regime propaganda, highlighting the severe human rights abuses and starvation suffered by the population, alongside the lavish lifestyle of the leadership.

The Interview has been the center of controversy since hackers targeted Sony Pictures Entertainment, after North Korea denounced the movie, leading to speculation that the country could be behind the cyber attack.

Over the summer, North Korea warned that the film's release would be an 'act of war that we will never tolerate'. It said the U.S. will face 'merciless' retaliation.

Leaked versions of the pivotal scene show the dictator's head exploding after a missile hits his helicopter and engulfs him in flames.

Anger over the depiction of the brutal assassination caused a hacking cell called Guardian of Peace to launch a cyber-attack on Sony Pictures, leaking thousands of damaging documents. The group also threatened terrorist attacks on the United States.


The move led cinema chains - including the New York City location due to host the premiere - to pull out of showing the film after the hackers promised 9/11-style attacks.

Officials at the Department of Homeland Security have said the attacks are not credible - but many theaters have still decided to back away from screenings.

The cancelled screening coincided with celebrations in North Korea, as people took to the streets of Pyongyang today to mark the official start of Kim Jong-un's reign.


Horns and sirens sounded in the oppressed country to mark the end of a mourning period for the dictator's father, Kim Jong Il, who died three years ago.

The ceremony - in line with a Korean custom of mourning one's parents for three years - marks the true commencement of the younger ruler's reign, as the last vestiges of his father's regime fade.

Since the death of his father, Kim Jong Un has indicated he wants to build the economy and improve the nation's standard of living.

But he has also held firm to the North's longstanding - and extremely costly - focus on strengthening its military and developing its nuclear weapons capabilities.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2877471/North-Korea-Kim-Jong-assassination-movie-Interview-activists-plan-send-copies-DVD-border-attached-helium-balloons.html

 
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We need to somehow hack NK internet or TV and live stream the movie. Make it so it plays 24/7 everywhere there.

 
Wow, seems like this thing has been advertised at every commercial break on TV the last few weeks. Must have cost a fortune, and now down the drain.

 
Interesting article about some of the details

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/world/asia/us-links-north-korea-to-sony-hacking.html?_r=0

- How does US know it was North Korea? Because US intelligence has hacked into their networks. That complicates how Obama wants to confront NKorea.

- Same methods as some other hacking attempts in different countries

- There is thought that there was some inside help since the code included the Sony corporate network server names

- Although Sony is a major Japanese firm, Japanese govt wants US to tread lightly because they are in hostage negotiations

 
I just still can't believe NK was behind this... I mean everything I have ever read or seen in documentaries led me to believe NK was about as advanced as the US in the 80s. They have inconsistent electricity grids, but can hack into sony databases?

It just doesn't add up to me. I still think this will end up being something 4chan pulled together for "the lulz" or the most electorate example of guerilla marketing ever.

 
it sort of makes you wonder what else they figured out is in the emails that they do not want seen eh

 
Walking Boot said:
At lunch today we were trying to come up with comparable situations of movies with real foreign leaders who were in power at the time of release and considered our enemy. Hot Shots! and South Park took shots at Saddam Hussein. Kim Jong Il in Team America: World Police. Gorbachev in Naked Gun. Any others?
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The Great Dictator

Death of a President

 
Fennis said:
Walking Boot said:
At lunch today we were trying to come up with comparable situations of movies with real foreign leaders who were in power at the time of release and considered our enemy. Hot Shots! and South Park took shots at Saddam Hussein. Kim Jong Il in Team America: World Police. Gorbachev in Naked Gun. Any others?
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The Great Dictator

Death of a President
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I think another way to look at this would be, how many of these movies listed would've been pulled if first run released in late-2014 due to the mobilization of internet hackers, and companies tip-toeing around everyone person with an internet connection (pitchfork) screaming behind said hackers, or just irrespective of the hackers? Maybe not all, but I'd say at least one of those movies would be pulled in today's environment if enough pressure was put on the company/theaters showing the movie.

 
Walking Boot said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Video on Demand (VOD) is also cancelled.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-no-vod-release-interview-759094?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews&utm_campaign=THR%20Breaking%20News_now_2014-12-17%2016%3A26%3A44_ehayden

Total, complete surrender.
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I don't think that's an accurate interpretation from their statements.

At this point, the Dec. 25 release is canceled.

I think Sony's position now is "Wait and See". That is, if the people behind the hack attack can be identified, and if it is deemed at a later date in the next month or two that either A) the violent threat against theaters was a bluff, or B) once identified, those who would carry out the threats are arrested and prevented from violence, then, I think, Sony might try to do a limited theatrical release. I think they're just trying to keep that option available in case it can be determined that the violent threats are hogwash.

If Sony were to instead release on VOD, cable, streaming, or whatever, now, or on Christmas or whatever, then they're shut out of a major revenue stream. I think they're trying to keep the door open a bit just in case it ends up being the whole thing is three or four teenagers in Sweden with a lot of time on their hands.
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Good points actually. - I can remember when movies have been pulled and then released later, typically stuff involving terror attacks that the public might have found insensitive or too graphic after some tragic event. Maybe that's another way to see this.

 
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General Tso said:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/02/hitchens200902
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I nonetheless maintain that language and not politics was the crucial question here. Salman Rushdie, raised a Muslim, concluded that the Koran was a book made by the hands of men and was thus a fit subject for literary criticism and fictional borrowing.
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I really think this is the greatest challenge in the muslim world.

I saw Rushdie speak at Tulane last year actually, and he seemed to have no protection whatsoever and I think he said as such. I'm a fan of Hitchens and Rushdie both.

 
bigmarc27 said:
I just still can't believe NK was behind this... I mean everything I have ever read or seen in documentaries led me to believe NK was about as advanced as the US in the 80s. They have inconsistent electricity grids, but can hack into sony databases?

It just doesn't add up to me. I still think this will end up being something 4chan pulled together for "the lulz" or the most electorate example of guerilla marketing ever.
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To complicate things they allegedly have a hacker army of several thousand, including some to many in China. There's a big market in stealing commercial technology too, don't forget that.

 
Maybe they should not have used the name of a real person to assassinate. If another country made a movie like this about usa and used a president's real name i think it would not go over well here.

 
Willie Neslon said:
Maybe they should not have used the name of a real person to assassinate. If another country made a movie like this about usa and used a president's real name i think it would not go over well here.
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This is true, I thought this when I first heard of the movie. I think (?) someone put out a movie about an attempted assassination of George Bush while he was in office and that wasn't a great idea either.

 
Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
Walking Boot said:
At lunch today we were trying to come up with comparable situations of movies with real foreign leaders who were in power at the time of release and considered our enemy. Hot Shots! and South Park took shots at Saddam Hussein. Kim Jong Il in Team America: World Police. Gorbachev in Naked Gun. Any others?
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Rocky IV (sort of)
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All the movies with the POTUS have some white guys using different names.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Willie Neslon said:
Maybe they should not have used the name of a real person to assassinate. If another country made a movie like this about usa and used a president's real name i think it would not go over well here.
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This is true, I thought this when I first heard of the movie. I think (?) someone put out a movie about an attempted assassination of George Bush while he was in office and that wasn't a great idea either.
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This movie is a dumb comedy. Would anyone in the US really get worked up about some North Korean comedians blowing up the White House in a skit?

This whole thing is ridiculous.

 
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