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Both Cohwer and Shanahan will want control over personnel. Woody Johnson has already said he is convinced that coaching and personnel is too much for one man to manage. Both of these guys will want that control.

I predict it will be Schottenheimer. His son is already the OC, the Jets want an accomplished established HC after the failure of going with the young up and coming coordinator approach.

Schott SR is a 3-4 guy... check. His son is the OC. Check. He won't insist on personnel control. Check. He is an established HC. Check. His hiring may not sell PSL's, but it will not draw much critisism either.

I think that both Cowher and Shanahan may sit a (another) year out. I think both of these guys may become a little too demanding in terms of $ and control. Schotty? The next Jets HC.

 
Both Cohwer and Shanahan will want control over personnel. Woody Johnson has already said he is convinced that coaching and personnel is too much for one man to manage. Both of these guys will want that control. I predict it will be Schottenheimer. His son is already the OC, the Jets want an accomplished established HC after the failure of going with the young up and coming coordinator approach. Schott SR is a 3-4 guy... check. His son is the OC. Check. He won't insist on personnel control. Check. He is an established HC. Check. His hiring may not sell PSL's, but it will not draw much critisism either. I think that both Cowher and Shanahan may sit a (another) year out. I think both of these guys may become a little too demanding in terms of $ and control. Schotty? The next Jets HC.
Who will be the QB? Favre obviously isn't the long term answer and probably doesn't come back in 2009 given this season's performance.
 
Both Cohwer and Shanahan will want control over personnel. Woody Johnson has already said he is convinced that coaching and personnel is too much for one man to manage. Both of these guys will want that control.

I predict it will be Schottenheimer. His son is already the OC, the Jets want an accomplished established HC after the failure of going with the young up and coming coordinator approach.

Schott SR is a 3-4 guy... check. His son is the OC. Check. He won't insist on personnel control. Check. He is an established HC. Check. His hiring may not sell PSL's, but it will not draw much critisism either.

I think that both Cowher and Shanahan may sit a (another) year out. I think both of these guys may become a little too demanding in terms of $ and control. Schotty? The next Jets HC.
You lost me there - this hire is ALL about PSL's for Woody....Schott may end up being the one but they will go hard after a sexier name first to sell the PSLs IMO

 
Maybe this should be the Jets Official thread? we need one..

As for control - Word was that Cowher wanted to bring his own guy, not necessarily be THE guy....

I also think that Tannebaum can go back to being more on the business side of things or hit the road...

I'd be happy with Cowher or Marty Ball.

Oh and as for Favre - I think the Jets are just saying what they have to say and I believe he's under contract - so, if Favre were to bow out on his own, the Jets may save a few million - If they say they don't want him now, Favre just says he wants to play and he gets the money.

I think they want to see what the new HC thinks of Favre and it would be interesting to see what Shott Jr and Sr think....

 
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ESPN is scrolling that the Jets and the Jaw are still interested in eash other. The GM said he would be willing to share decision making power with someone as experienced as Cowher.

 
Here's a quick bio of the three big name coaches mentioned in this thread.

W L T PW PL RWin% PWin% Play%BillC 149 90 1 12 9 62.3% 57.1% 62.5%Marty 200 126 1 5 13 61.3% 27.8% 65.0%MikeS 138 90 0 8 5 60.5% 61.5% 46.7%That shows the career wins, losses, ties, playoff wins, playoff losses, regular season winning percentages, playoff winning percentages, and percentage of full seasons qualifying for the playoffs for each coach.Here's the year by year records, along with the age of the main QB that year.

Code:
year	team   w	  l	t	pw   pl	  note	   age	QB	1992	pit	11	 5	0	0	1				  26	Neil O'Donnell1993	pit	 9	 7	0	0	1				  27	Neil O'Donnell1994	pit	12	 4	0	1	1				  28	Neil O'Donnell1995	pit	11	 5	0	2	1	AFC Champions 29	Neil O'Donnell1996	pit	10	 6	0	1	1				  34	Mike Tomczak1997	pit	11	 5	0	1	1				  25	Kordell Stewart1998	pit	 7	 9	0	0	0				  26	Kordell Stewart1999	pit	 6	10	0	0	0				  27	Kordell Stewart2000	pit	 9	 7	0	0	0				  28	Kordell Stewart2001	pit	13	 3	0	1	1				  29	Kordell Stewart2002	pit	10	 5	1	1	1				  31	Tommy Maddox2003	pit	 6	10	0	0	0				  32	Tommy Maddox2004	pit	15	 1	0	1	1				  22	Ben Roethlisberger2005	pit	11	 5	0	4	0	SB Champions  23	Ben Roethlisberger2006	pit	 8	 8	0	0	0				  24	Ben Roethlisberger1984	cle	 4	 4	0	0	0				  26	Paul McDonald1985	cle	 8	 8	0	0	1				  22	Bernie Kosar1986	cle	12	 4	0	1	1				  23	Bernie Kosar1987	cle	10	 5	0	1	1				  24	Bernie Kosar1988	cle	10	 6	0	0	1				  25	Bernie Kosar1989	kan	 8	 7	1	0	0				  35	Steve DeBerg1990	kan	11	 5	0	1	1				  36	Steve DeBerg1991	kan	10	 6	0	0	1				  37	Steve DeBerg1992	kan	10	 6	0	0	1				  34	Dave Krieg1993	kan	11	 5	0	2	1				  37	Joe Montana1994	kan	 9	 7	0	0	1				  38	Joe Montana1995	kan	13	 3	0	0	1				  33	Steve Bono1996	kan	 9	 7	0	0	0				  34	Steve Bono1997	kan	13	 3	0	0	1				  27	Elvis Grbac1998	kan	 7	 9	0	0	0				  33	Rich Gannon2001	was	 8	 8	0	0	0				  28	Tony Banks2002	sdg	 8	 8	0	0	0				  23	Drew Brees2003	sdg	 4	12	0	0	0				  24	Drew Brees2004	sdg	12	 4	0	0	1				  25	Drew Brees2005	sdg	 9	 7	0	0	0				  26	Drew Brees2006	sdg	14	 2	0	0	1				  25	Philip Rivers1988	rai	 7	 9	0	0	0				  27	Jay Schroeder1989	rai	 1	 3	0	0	0				  28	Jay Schroeder1995	den	 8	 8	0	0	0				  35	John Elway1996	den	13	 3	0	0	1				  36	John Elway1997	den	12	 4	0	4	0	SB Champions  37	John Elway1998	den	14	 2	0	3	0	SB Champions  38	John Elway1999	den	 6	10	0	0	0				  24	Brian Griese2000	den	11	 5	0	0	1				  25	Brian Griese2001	den	 8	 8	0	0	0				  26	Brian Griese2002	den	 9	 7	0	0	0				  27	Brian Griese2003	den	10	 6	0	0	1				  29	Jake Plummer2004	den	10	 6	0	0	1				  30	Jake Plummer2005	den	13	 3	0	1	1				  31	Jake Plummer2006	den	 9	 7	0	0	0				  32	Jake Plummer2007	den	 7	 9	0	0	0				  24	Jay Cutler2008	den	 8	 8	0	0	0				  25	Jay Cutler
 
So how does Cleveland feel right now? Cowher just told them he's not interested in coaching anywhere in 2009 and then two days later he's talking to the Jets. :lmao: :lmao:

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Marty really didn't seem interested in coaching again. I suppose he could be talked into it, but I'd be surprised given the intense media scrutiny that comes with playing for a NY team. Tough crowd when a team fires a coach who just put up 2 winning seasons in the past 3 years. His son being there is the only factor that seems like it might be able to draw him back in.

 
So how does Cleveland feel right now? Cowher just told them he's not interested in coaching anywhere in 2009 and then two days later he's talking to the Jets. :lmao: :hey: :thumbdown:
My understanding is that Cowher told Rooney when he left Pittsburgh that if/when he returned to coaching, it would not be with another team in their division. I think Cowher is just honoring that promise.
 
Point is, I don't think the Jets will give Cohwer or Shanny the control they would want, although I am surprised by this report that GM Tannenbaum would be willing to share personnel decisions... but that sounds like some :thumbup: to me. It would be bad for this franchise if Cowher refused to talk to them at all. Look at the reaction of Browns fans when Cowher would not even talk. If that is what Tannenbaum had to say to get an interview with the Chin, he said what he had to say. The Jets may just want a date, not a marriage proposal with him. PR... it's about PR.

Shanny may well want to take a year off. I'd imagine he's in a minor state of shock, and would need some time to sort things out for himself personally. He's been in Denver for 14 years, and it's his year round home. He also isn't a D coach, and has he ever run a 3-4? His offensive scheme is all about Zone blocking. The Jets don't have the personnel for either zone blocking or the 4-3. Bad fit.

I really don't think either one of these guys is a NY type.

Marty... yea, he has said he wasn't interested in coaching again, but he did not rule it out either. Having his son on his staff again.... that is the ace in the hole. Only an established HC could coach Favre, which I think rules out the Giants DC.

No, Marty won't sell PSL's, but will any HC? This move was done to keep Favre. That is why in large part Mangini was shown the door. Farve would not play for Mangini again, and Favre CAN sell PSL's and jersey's. Based on this Jets roster., Marty's resume is the best fit. Good O line, good running game, 3-4 D... like a glove, and again, his son as OC. That is no small deal... together for the holidays, working together again...but I've been wrong before.

 
According to scout.com (Jets confidential) a close friend of Cowher's says he is not interested in the Jets job.

 
According to scout.com (Jets confidential) a close friend of Cowher's says he is not interested in the Jets job.
That comes as no surprise. I think Cowher has agreed to have lunch with Woody Johnson as a personal favor... maybe even get a "consulting fee" for the trip. The whole "we can share personnel decisions" was just an excuse for the Chin... to agree to "interview". Here is another thought... rememebr 2 years ago? Schotty JR was interviewed by Miami for the 2007 HC job. He of course was not ready, and since, his stock has dropped considerably. Now... the Jets say to Marty, you sign a 3 year contract, your son as asst HC. You groom him for 2 or 3 years, he replaces you as HC. They all live in New Jersey happilly ever after. BTW, there are some nice places to live in Jersey, especially near the PA state line in the NW corner of the state. Pretty nice country, actually. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes... which means the likelihood of it playing out like this diminishes exponentially...
 
According to scout.com (Jets confidential) a close friend of Cowher's says he is not interested in the Jets job.
That comes as no surprise. I think Cowher has agreed to have lunch with Woody Johnson as a personal favor... maybe even get a "consulting fee" for the trip. The whole "we can share personnel decisions" was just an excuse for the Chin... to agree to "interview". Here is another thought... rememebr 2 years ago? Schotty JR was interviewed by Miami for the 2007 HC job. He of course was not ready, and since, his stock has dropped considerably. Now... the Jets say to Marty, you sign a 3 year contract, your son as asst HC. You groom him for 2 or 3 years, he replaces you as HC. They all live in New Jersey happilly ever after. BTW, there are some nice places to live in Jersey, especially near the PA state line in the NW corner of the state. Pretty nice country, actually. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes... which means the likelihood of it playing out like this diminishes exponentially...
Why not bring in his other kid as DC and make it a family reunion! Problem is Brian was AWFUL in playcalls this year and last! I could live with Marty Ball but he is #3 on my list behind Cower and Shanny - close with just starting over with Spags.
 
AP: Jets will seek Bill Cowher to become head coach

NEW YORK (AP) — The New York Jets will talk to Bill Cowher about their vacant coaching job, a person familiar with the search told the Associated Press on Tuesday.

While no formal discussions have been scheduled yet, the team plans to speak soon with the former Super Bowl-winning coach, according to the person who requested anonymity because the individual was not authorized to discuss the search.

Cowher has also expressed interest in the job that opened Monday, the person said, when the Jets fired Eric Mangini after three seasons.

It seems the Associated Press thinks Cowher is interested in the Jets job.

 
So how does Cleveland feel right now? Cowher just told them he's not interested in coaching anywhere in 2009 and then two days later he's talking to the Jets. :lmao: :lmao: :clyde:
He said that after his initial talks with the Jets at which point he declined due to his lack of control in the FO. That's when he said he wasn't going to coach in 09. The Jets came back and offered to change that objection a little. Sorry, there's no dig at the Browns here. If the Jets didn't come back and say that then the Jaw would still not be interested in coaching.
 
So how does Cleveland feel right now? Cowher just told them he's not interested in coaching anywhere in 2009 and then two days later he's talking to the Jets. :lmao: :lmao: :clyde:
My understanding is that Cowher told Rooney when he left Pittsburgh that if/when he returned to coaching, it would not be with another team in their division. I think Cowher is just honoring that promise.
So why wouldn't he just say that? Makes himself look dishonest and Cleveland look like fools when he says he doesn't want to coach anywhere in 2009 when Cleveland calls him, but then turns around less than 48 hours later and says that he's interested in talking to the Jets.
 
NFL Headlines

Cowher withdraws name from Jets search

The Jets announced late Tuesday that CBS analyst Bill Cowher has withdrawn himself from consideration for the team's head-coaching vacancy.

Dec. 30 - 11:27 pm et

Source: New York Daily News

 
wow - though they had a shot at cowher - guess he really is sitting it out this year.

Shanny is a new wrinkle - I think Woody goes after him with Schotty as a backup

 
According to scout.com (Jets confidential) a close friend of Cowher's says he is not interested in the Jets job.
That comes as no surprise. I think Cowher has agreed to have lunch with Woody Johnson as a personal favor... maybe even get a "consulting fee" for the trip. The whole "we can share personnel decisions" was just an excuse for the Chin... to agree to "interview". Here is another thought... rememebr 2 years ago? Schotty JR was interviewed by Miami for the 2007 HC job. He of course was not ready, and since, his stock has dropped considerably. Now... the Jets say to Marty, you sign a 3 year contract, your son as asst HC. You groom him for 2 or 3 years, he replaces you as HC. They all live in New Jersey happilly ever after. BTW, there are some nice places to live in Jersey, especially near the PA state line in the NW corner of the state. Pretty nice country, actually. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes... which means the likelihood of it playing out like this diminishes exponentially...
Why not bring in his other kid as DC and make it a family reunion! Problem is Brian was AWFUL in playcalls this year and last! I could live with Marty Ball but he is #3 on my list behind Cower and Shanny - close with just starting over with Spags.
I agree, Schotty lite hasn't done well, but I also have to wonder how much influence Mangini had on Schotty lite's play calling. Lil Schott is still young, and still developing as a coach. A couple-three years under Marty could only help his development. Frankly, I would like this plan, if it is indeed not just my personal conjecturing, but something Woody and Tannenbaum might even implement. The Jets need a high profile HC. Now we know Cowher is not an option, and I think everyone including myself knew that. Cowher wants the Carolina job, and I think he'll wait it out for however long it might take. Fox managed to salvage this season, so Cowher will stay on the shelf for now. Spagnola is not going to be able to handle Favre. Any interview with him can be filed under "due diligence". Shanny is nuts if he doesn't take a few million and take some time off. He earned that.Back to Marty ball. He can handle Favre, and again, a 3-4 guy, a name HC, a guy who would not be insistant on having 100% control over personnel. Woody will pay him a ton of $$, assure Brian Schotty's future... it just fits too well. If the Jets don't end up hiring Marty, I will wear black socks when wearing shorts next summer. :goodposting:
 
Shanny is nuts if he doesn't take a few million and take some time off. He earned that.
Mark Schlereth just said he thinks Shanahan will have a new job within 2 days. Said he loves the grind of coaching.
OK, so he's nuts. "Honey, I know how much you love the mountains here in Colorado, the mansion we have, the majestic views. I would never drag you away from all of this, even for a trip around the world on the most decadent, luxurious cruise ship in the world. Nope, I love you too much for that. Now, I'm going to move to Kansas City. Yes, it means a pay cut, and it means I'll never see you, but I'm just a nut for coaching. Tell the grandkids I love them. I'll be back in about 7 years. Here's my cell phone number. Bye, luv ya hon." He's nuts.
 
So how does Cleveland feel right now? Cowher just told them he's not interested in coaching anywhere in 2009 and then two days later he's talking to the Jets. :lmao: :lmao:

:clyde:
My understanding is that Cowher told Rooney when he left Pittsburgh that if/when he returned to coaching, it would not be with another team in their division. I think Cowher is just honoring that promise.
So why wouldn't he just say that? Makes himself look dishonest and Cleveland look like fools when he says he doesn't want to coach anywhere in 2009 when Cleveland calls him, but then turns around less than 48 hours later and says that he's interested in talking to the Jets.
So how do the Browns look foolish? Are they supposed to tie him down and make him agree to coach? Should Lerner call the liar police on Cowher? Cowher was interested in talking to the Jets, same as he was interested in talking to Lerner, so much so that he is the one who requested the face to face with Lerner in New York, not Lerner. Perhaps his "interest in tallking with the Jets" was the same as with the Browns - to clear the air that he is definitely not interested. I know the Browns are bad and all, but do Steeler fans have to try to dig the Browns every chance they get, even when there is nothing there? BTW, how is Big Ben feeling these days?
 
Both Cohwer and Shanahan will want control over personnel. Woody Johnson has already said he is convinced that coaching and personnel is too much for one man to manage. Both of these guys will want that control.

I predict it will be Schottenheimer. His son is already the OC, the Jets want an accomplished established HC after the failure of going with the young up and coming coordinator approach.

Schott SR is a 3-4 guy... check. His son is the OC. Check. He won't insist on personnel control. Check. He is an established HC. Check. His hiring may not sell PSL's, but it will not draw much critisism either.

I think that both Cowher and Shanahan may sit a (another) year out. I think both of these guys may become a little too demanding in terms of $ and control. Schotty? The next Jets HC.
You lost me there - this hire is ALL about PSL's for Woody....Schott may end up being the one but they will go hard after a sexier name first to sell the PSLs IMO
If that is the case in regards to PSLs, Woody may as well just hire the best prospect now. Cowher and Shanny are really the only two names out there that would help sell the PSLs...no one is going to say "Yeah, let me do this. They now have Spagnola (or insert other coaching name)". It is way too volatile of a job to base a long-term investment decision on.I have not heard this name mentioned for any position, but what is Billick up to?

 
According to scout.com (Jets confidential) a close friend of Cowher's says he is not interested in the Jets job.
That comes as no surprise. I think Cowher has agreed to have lunch with Woody Johnson as a personal favor... maybe even get a "consulting fee" for the trip. The whole "we can share personnel decisions" was just an excuse for the Chin... to agree to "interview". Here is another thought... rememebr 2 years ago? Schotty JR was interviewed by Miami for the 2007 HC job. He of course was not ready, and since, his stock has dropped considerably.

Now... the Jets say to Marty, you sign a 3 year contract, your son as asst HC. You groom him for 2 or 3 years, he replaces you as HC. They all live in New Jersey happilly ever after. BTW, there are some nice places to live in Jersey, especially near the PA state line in the NW corner of the state. Pretty nice country, actually.

The more I think about it, the more sense it makes... which means the likelihood of it playing out like this diminishes exponentially...
Why not bring in his other kid as DC and make it a family reunion! Problem is Brian was AWFUL in playcalls this year and last! I could live with Marty Ball but he is #3 on my list behind Cower and Shanny - close with just starting over with Spags.
I agree, Schotty lite hasn't done well, but I also have to wonder how much influence Mangini had on Schotty lite's play calling.
At the very GD least you would know that when you play some teams with a bottom 5 Run defense you're not going to see Favre or any QB come out with an empty backfield and get pounded for an entire quarter while runing the ball 2x. MARTY BALL!!!!

And I don't get the whole talk about Marty only getting you so far - Give me 12-14 wins and a shot in the big game any time - I think that claim is bogus and wasn't all his fault - when it comes to the big game you're also playing the best of the best, anything can happen.

 
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According to scout.com (Jets confidential) a close friend of Cowher's says he is not interested in the Jets job.
That comes as no surprise. I think Cowher has agreed to have lunch with Woody Johnson as a personal favor... maybe even get a "consulting fee" for the trip. The whole "we can share personnel decisions" was just an excuse for the Chin... to agree to "interview". Here is another thought... rememebr 2 years ago? Schotty JR was interviewed by Miami for the 2007 HC job. He of course was not ready, and since, his stock has dropped considerably.

Now... the Jets say to Marty, you sign a 3 year contract, your son as asst HC. You groom him for 2 or 3 years, he replaces you as HC. They all live in New Jersey happilly ever after. BTW, there are some nice places to live in Jersey, especially near the PA state line in the NW corner of the state. Pretty nice country, actually.

The more I think about it, the more sense it makes... which means the likelihood of it playing out like this diminishes exponentially...
Why not bring in his other kid as DC and make it a family reunion! Problem is Brian was AWFUL in playcalls this year and last! I could live with Marty Ball but he is #3 on my list behind Cower and Shanny - close with just starting over with Spags.
I agree, Schotty lite hasn't done well, but I also have to wonder how much influence Mangini had on Schotty lite's play calling. Lil Schott is still young, and still developing as a coach. A couple-three years under Marty could only help his development. Frankly, I would like this plan, if it is indeed not just my personal conjecturing, but something Woody and Tannenbaum might even implement. The Jets need a high profile HC. Now we know Cowher is not an option, and I think everyone including myself knew that. Cowher wants the Carolina job, and I think he'll wait it out for however long it might take. Fox managed to salvage this season, so Cowher will stay on the shelf for now.

Spagnola is not going to be able to handle Favre. Any interview with him can be filed under "due diligence".

Shanny is nuts if he doesn't take a few million and take some time off. He earned that.

Back to Marty ball. He can handle Favre, and again, a 3-4 guy, a name HC, a guy who would not be insistant on having 100% control over personnel. Woody will pay him a ton of $$, assure Brian Schotty's future... it just fits too well.

If the Jets don't end up hiring Marty, I will wear black socks when wearing shorts next summer. :blackdot:
I agree. If you remember in Shotty and Mangini's first year (when Mangini couldn't be full of himslef yet) the Jets ran a very innovative and creative offense. There was alot of misdirection and they used Brad Smith in a Wildcat type role before it was fashionable.
 
Shanny is nuts if he doesn't take a few million and take some time off. He earned that.
Mark Schlereth just said he thinks Shanahan will have a new job within 2 days. Said he loves the grind of coaching.
OK, so he's nuts. "Honey, I know how much you love the mountains here in Colorado, the mansion we have, the majestic views. I would never drag you away from all of this, even for a trip around the world on the most decadent, luxurious cruise ship in the world. Nope, I love you too much for that. Now, I'm going to move to Kansas City. Yes, it means a pay cut, and it means I'll never see you, but I'm just a nut for coaching. Tell the grandkids I love them. I'll be back in about 7 years. Here's my cell phone number. Bye, luv ya hon." He's nuts.
The Shanahans are welcome to be my neighbors in the mountains of New Jersey. Of course they are more like hills - but they identify them as "mountains" at least.
 
According to scout.com (Jets confidential) a close friend of Cowher's says he is not interested in the Jets job.
That comes as no surprise. I think Cowher has agreed to have lunch with Woody Johnson as a personal favor... maybe even get a "consulting fee" for the trip. The whole "we can share personnel decisions" was just an excuse for the Chin... to agree to "interview". Here is another thought... rememebr 2 years ago? Schotty JR was interviewed by Miami for the 2007 HC job. He of course was not ready, and since, his stock has dropped considerably.

Now... the Jets say to Marty, you sign a 3 year contract, your son as asst HC. You groom him for 2 or 3 years, he replaces you as HC. They all live in New Jersey happilly ever after. BTW, there are some nice places to live in Jersey, especially near the PA state line in the NW corner of the state. Pretty nice country, actually.

The more I think about it, the more sense it makes... which means the likelihood of it playing out like this diminishes exponentially...
Why not bring in his other kid as DC and make it a family reunion! Problem is Brian was AWFUL in playcalls this year and last! I could live with Marty Ball but he is #3 on my list behind Cower and Shanny - close with just starting over with Spags.
I agree, Schotty lite hasn't done well, but I also have to wonder how much influence Mangini had on Schotty lite's play calling. Lil Schott is still young, and still developing as a coach. A couple-three years under Marty could only help his development. Frankly, I would like this plan, if it is indeed not just my personal conjecturing, but something Woody and Tannenbaum might even implement. The Jets need a high profile HC. Now we know Cowher is not an option, and I think everyone including myself knew that. Cowher wants the Carolina job, and I think he'll wait it out for however long it might take. Fox managed to salvage this season, so Cowher will stay on the shelf for now.

Spagnola is not going to be able to handle Favre. Any interview with him can be filed under "due diligence".

Shanny is nuts if he doesn't take a few million and take some time off. He earned that.

Back to Marty ball. He can handle Favre, and again, a 3-4 guy, a name HC, a guy who would not be insistant on having 100% control over personnel. Woody will pay him a ton of $$, assure Brian Schotty's future... it just fits too well.

If the Jets don't end up hiring Marty, I will wear black socks when wearing shorts next summer. :banned:
I agree. If you remember in Shotty and Mangini's first year (when Mangini couldn't be full of himslef yet) the Jets ran a very innovative and creative offense. There was alot of misdirection and they used Brad Smith in a Wildcat type role before it was fashionable.
Yes, Brian Schottenheimer ran a nice package in 2007... then went ultra-conservative under Mangini.Now, Spagnuolo is getting a lot of attention, this from the NY Post:

By BRIAN COSTELLO

HOT CANDIDATE: Giant defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo has moved to the top of the Jets' list to replace Eric Mangini as coach - but other teams are in hot pursuit, too.Last updated: 7:07 am

January 2, 2009

Posted: 12:56 am

January 2, 2009

One of the first calls that Jet management made, only hours after firing Eric Mangini on Monday, was to the crosstown rival Giants.

It did not take long for the Jets to identify Steve Spagnuolo, the Giants' defensive coordinator, as a candidate for their head coaching job.

And when Bill Cowher bowed out Tuesday, Spagnuolo shot to the top of the list.

The 49-year-old is expected to interview with the Jets tomorrow - but Gang Green has plenty of competition for his services.

He interviewed with the Lions and Browns yesterday, and is scheduled to meet with the Broncos tomorrow when he finishes with the Jets.

"You can't argue with what the Giants have done defensively under Steve Spagnuolo," said former Jet quarterback Boomer Esiason, now a CBS football analyst.

"I could see how Jets fans could say that would be a hell of a head coach."

That's what Jet management is banking on.

Dealing with an angry fan base and with PSLs to sell, the Jets need this hire to go over well with their fans. Once Cowher declined to even meet with the Jets, Spagnuolo quickly became the team's top target.

He has presided over the Giant defense the past two seasons, helping them to the Super Bowl victory last year, and he brings the fire and passion fans craved from Mangini.

There's no questioning his Xs and Os acumen, but head coaches in the NFL have become administrators as much as game planners.

"I was talking to a head coach the other day who said, sometimes you have to pick out things like paint, things that don't even involve football," Giant great Carl Banks said.

"[spagnuolo's] got an excellent example of what a head coach should be about in working under Tom Coughlin. I think he has just from his time here he has a pretty good example.

"He has great instincts for the game. I'm assuming if he's interested in that job I don't see why he wouldn't be an excellent head coach."

There are five NFL teams actively looking for a head coach, along with the Raiders, who may keep Tom Cable.

The Jets would seem to be an attractive destination, coming off a 9-7 season, compared to the mess in Detroit or St. Louis.

"It's got to be near the top of the list for a number of reasons," ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski said. "First and foremost, there's a core of a good football team there. The first thing a coach is going to ask is, 'What am I stepping into?'

"You can see there's a lot of good people on that football team. Whoever comes in will inherit a good core. You have an incredible new facility, a new stadium, New York City. I think all those things would be exciting for a new coach."

Of course, there is that one big question mark. Here's a hint: He wears Wranglers ... and No. 4.

Brett Favre's future is the cloud hanging over the Jets' Florham Park facility. His Jet teammates have ripped him publicly and off the record this week. Cowher wanted no part of him. Now prospective coaches are all going to want to know what the Jets' plans are for Favre.

"They've got to know what the Brett Favre situation is," said Jaworski.

"We've seen this play out in Green Bay the last few seasons. The quarterback position is the most important position on a football team. You've got to know who's going to be there. It will affect free agency, the draft. Whoever comes in, they may want an answer to the Favre situation before they will consider the job.

"I'm not sure any new coach is going to be looking at a 40-year-old quarterback."

On the surface, the Favre trade ended up costing the Jets a third-round pick, but it may prove much costlier in their coaching search.

"It turned out to be a decision that ultimately cost Eric Mangini his job," Esiason said. "You think one of these other coaches will be able to control him? I'm telling you, he will not be the starting quarterback of the Jets next season."

 
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Forget him! Mike Shanahan no longer in Jets' head coach hunt

BY RICH CIMINI

DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Updated Friday, January 2nd 2009, 7:08 PM

It was a brief flirtation, and now it's over. Mike Shanahan isn't coming to the Jets, the Daily News has learned.

The Jets held internal discussions on the recently-fired Broncos coach. They even tried to send a feeler to gauge his interest, but the organization is moving on. Presumably, Shanahan sent word to the Jets that he isn't interested.

Shanahan, who was fired Tuesday, is off on a two-week vacation. He told the NFL Network that he won't speak with any teams until he returns from his trip.

The Jets are focusing on top assistants, not current or former head coaches. That also means Marty Schottenheimer is out of the running, as the Daily News reported several days ago. Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan are believed to be at the top of their list.

Friday, they interviewed in-house candidates Brian Schottenheimer and Bill Callahan.

 
Lets face it, with the QB position in shambles, that team isn't too attractive to the top coaches right now. They're going to have to settle on a lesser name.

 
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Forget him! Mike Shanahan no longer in Jets' head coach hunt

BY RICH CIMINI

DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Updated Friday, January 2nd 2009, 7:08 PM

It was a brief flirtation, and now it's over. Mike Shanahan isn't coming to the Jets, the Daily News has learned.

The Jets held internal discussions on the recently-fired Broncos coach. They even tried to send a feeler to gauge his interest, but the organization is moving on. Presumably, Shanahan sent word to the Jets that he isn't interested.

Shanahan, who was fired Tuesday, is off on a two-week vacation. He told the NFL Network that he won't speak with any teams until he returns from his trip.

The Jets are focusing on top assistants, not current or former head coaches. That also means Marty Schottenheimer is out of the running, as the Daily News reported several days ago. Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan are believed to be at the top of their list.

Friday, they interviewed in-house candidates Brian Schottenheimer and Bill Callahan.
Much like Belichick, Cowher and Shanahan know a bad situation when they see it; who, other than blindly loyal Jets fans can blame them?http://www.nypost.com/seven/01032009/sport...avre_147032.htm

 
From the blogger... bringing in Favre's former OC, Jeff Jagodzinski, for an interview next week. That seems out of left field.

Shanahan Removes Himself From Jets HC SearchDave Hutchinson, Newark Star-Ledger - [Full Article]Free agent HC Mike Shanahan, who was scheduled to meet with the New York Jets about their HC opening, has removed his name from the list of candidates. The Jets are now considering Boston College coach Jeff Jagodzinski.
 
Rex Ryan would seem like the perfect fit for the Jets. Lotsa D while the O figures itself out. Seems like it's just missing a Chad Pennington... :hot:

 
Report: Frazier a candidate for Jets job

January 1st, 2009 – 10:53 PM by Judd Zulgad Add the New York Jets to the list of teams interested in Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier.

Already scheduled to speak to the Detroit Lions next week about their head coaching job, Frazier also could land an interview with the Jets. The Newark Star-Ledger reports that Frazier is among the candidates being considered.

 
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Forget him! Mike Shanahan no longer in Jets' head coach hunt

BY RICH CIMINI

DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Updated Friday, January 2nd 2009, 7:08 PM

It was a brief flirtation, and now it's over. Mike Shanahan isn't coming to the Jets, the Daily News has learned.

The Jets held internal discussions on the recently-fired Broncos coach. They even tried to send a feeler to gauge his interest, but the organization is moving on. Presumably, Shanahan sent word to the Jets that he isn't interested.

Shanahan, who was fired Tuesday, is off on a two-week vacation. He told the NFL Network that he won't speak with any teams until he returns from his trip.

The Jets are focusing on top assistants, not current or former head coaches. That also means Marty Schottenheimer is out of the running, as the Daily News reported several days ago. Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan are believed to be at the top of their list.

Friday, they interviewed in-house candidates Brian Schottenheimer and Bill Callahan.
Much like Belichick, Cowher and Shanahan know a bad situation when they see it; who, other than blindly loyal Jets fans can blame them?http://www.nypost.com/seven/01032009/sport...avre_147032.htm
Please - Belichick is a cold blooded liar, thief, homewrecker and cheaterAll you Pastie fans can kick the Jets while their down but it wasn't that long ago that I could remember your franchise being a complete train wreck until Tuna took over. You better thank God every night for Kraft and the good people at Sony video equipment for your success!

 
Lets face it, with the QB position in shambles, that team isn't too attractive to the top coaches right now. They're going to have to settle on a lesser name.
I agree. And, if Favre stays, you know he won't be around that long and you'll have to start over with another QB.In related news, Mangini apparently had a great interview with Lerner and is looking good as the nect Clevland coach (heard on WFAN this afternoon).
 
Lets face it, with the QB position in shambles, that team isn't too attractive to the top coaches right now. They're going to have to settle on a lesser name.
I agree. And, if Favre stays, you know he won't be around that long and you'll have to start over with another QB.In related news, Mangini apparently had a great interview with Lerner and is looking good as the nect Clevland coach (heard on WFAN this afternoon).
Peter King quoted Favre as telling Tanny to "go in another direction at QB" - we know how he changes his mind so take it for what it is worth.As for Mangini in Cleveland - I wonder how he explained his 3-4 prevent defense to Lerner....along with his many gutless calls this season. Good luck Cleveland!
 
Jets message bds quoting Clayton that PArcells is the leading candidate for the Jets job....anyone else hear this live?

I could live with 2 years of Tuna coaching then going upstairs - hes a NY guy, loves Woody/Tanny, knows the team has talent - new stadium - Parcells would sell some PSLs.....

 
Someone just asked Francesca about Parcells and Francesca said he could see him in football, but that he'd be crazy to take another coaching job at age 68. Also said that Ross only owns half the Dolphins now, so his out clause wouldn't kick in yet.

Also, Mort now also reporting Mangini s frontrunner in Cleveland...so it must be true :mellow:

 
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I can't imagine Parcells taking a step back like that. Even if he did, he wouldn't be available to coach until the Dolphins sale goes through. Who knows how long that will take?

 
Don't want Parcells. I'm surprised we're not hearing more names here; just Schottenheimer Jr and Spagnulo and I don't really want either of them. I'd need to hear a lot of "Brian wanted to do this but Mangini said no" to make me think that Brian's the right guy for this job; it's tough for me to elevate someone on staff unless the HC was even worse than we all thought.

Ferentz' name hasn't been mentioned, but I'd like to hear his name in the mix. Would like Marty, but that seems like a longshot. Can't say I'd be 100% confident in Josh McDaniel, but wouldn't be upset with that hire. Don't want Billick and it sounds like he's out of the running. Wouldn't mind Pete Carroll but that's another pipe dream. Mike Mularkey's done a heckuva job and has to be up there for OCOY. He flamed in Buffalo but I liked him in Pittsburgh and you can't deny his success. Ron Rivera has done a nice job with SD since being promoted and obviously he did great in Chicago; could he have HC potential? Jets have the OL that could run Martz' system, but I don't think he gets another HC job for awhile especially for a NE team. Kevin Gilbride's been oustanding with the Giants but I've seen more than enough negatives from him before that. Grimm's got an interview with the Jets, I think, and he's got some history with Faneca. Hard to really get a read on him. I don't think **** LeBeau or Jim Johnson are leaving for HC jobs but it's hard not to love them.

Be curious to see what developments happen in the next week or so. It's a bit surprising that things seem to quiet on this front because I expect the Jets to hire someone soon. If Philips is fired I wouldn't mind taking him and think he might fit in well here.

Jets have hired three straight virtual unknowns who had all been just position coaches (Mangini had one year of coordinator experience, the rest none). I'd be surprised to see the Jets go with someone with no previous HC experience.

 
Don't want Parcells. I'm surprised we're not hearing more names here; just Schottenheimer Jr and Spagnulo and I don't really want either of them. I'd need to hear a lot of "Brian wanted to do this but Mangini said no" to make me think that Brian's the right guy for this job; it's tough for me to elevate someone on staff unless the HC was even worse than we all thought.Ferentz' name hasn't been mentioned, but I'd like to hear his name in the mix.
I heard a couple who were to be interviewed on WFAN today, but, sorry, don't remember names since I wasn't familar with them; one is from Boston College iirc.Also, Ferentz is being linked to being HC wherever Pioli goes.
 
Don't want Parcells. I'm surprised we're not hearing more names here; just Schottenheimer Jr and Spagnulo and I don't really want either of them. I'd need to hear a lot of "Brian wanted to do this but Mangini said no" to make me think that Brian's the right guy for this job; it's tough for me to elevate someone on staff unless the HC was even worse than we all thought.Ferentz' name hasn't been mentioned, but I'd like to hear his name in the mix. Would like Marty, but that seems like a longshot. Can't say I'd be 100% confident in Josh McDaniel, but wouldn't be upset with that hire. Don't want Billick and it sounds like he's out of the running. Wouldn't mind Pete Carroll but that's another pipe dream. Mike Mularkey's done a heckuva job and has to be up there for OCOY. He flamed in Buffalo but I liked him in Pittsburgh and you can't deny his success. Ron Rivera has done a nice job with SD since being promoted and obviously he did great in Chicago; could he have HC potential? Jets have the OL that could run Martz' system, but I don't think he gets another HC job for awhile especially for a NE team. Kevin Gilbride's been oustanding with the Giants but I've seen more than enough negatives from him before that. Grimm's got an interview with the Jets, I think, and he's got some history with Faneca. Hard to really get a read on him. I don't think **** LeBeau or Jim Johnson are leaving for HC jobs but it's hard not to love them.Be curious to see what developments happen in the next week or so. It's a bit surprising that things seem to quiet on this front because I expect the Jets to hire someone soon. If Philips is fired I wouldn't mind taking him and think he might fit in well here.Jets have hired three straight virtual unknowns who had all been just position coaches (Mangini had one year of coordinator experience, the rest none). I'd be surprised to see the Jets go with someone with no previous HC experience.
Lots of names being floated but no big ones besides Tuna - Woody needs to sell PSLs - I still think he is dying to make a big splash which is where Tuna comes in. If not you gotta think Spags or Rex Ryan - why are you down on Spags? I know the JEts have gone that route before but no great HCs with experience are out there so they have no choice. Wade Phillips is a bum and Billick has a huge ego so I think its down to Tuna, Spags or Ryan. BTW - Fatcessa will never betray his buddy - Tuna doesn't want to distract his team so he will deny until Miami is eliminated - then he has a 30 day windo to bolt and we'll know sooner rather than later
 
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Forget him! Mike Shanahan no longer in Jets' head coach hunt

BY RICH CIMINI

DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Updated Friday, January 2nd 2009, 7:08 PM

It was a brief flirtation, and now it's over. Mike Shanahan isn't coming to the Jets, the Daily News has learned.

The Jets held internal discussions on the recently-fired Broncos coach. They even tried to send a feeler to gauge his interest, but the organization is moving on. Presumably, Shanahan sent word to the Jets that he isn't interested.

Shanahan, who was fired Tuesday, is off on a two-week vacation. He told the NFL Network that he won't speak with any teams until he returns from his trip.

The Jets are focusing on top assistants, not current or former head coaches. That also means Marty Schottenheimer is out of the running, as the Daily News reported several days ago. Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan are believed to be at the top of their list.

Friday, they interviewed in-house candidates Brian Schottenheimer and Bill Callahan.
Much like Belichick, Cowher and Shanahan know a bad situation when they see it; who, other than blindly loyal Jets fans can blame them?http://www.nypost.com/seven/01032009/sport...avre_147032.htm
Please - Belichick is a cold blooded liar, thief, homewrecker and cheaterAll you Pastie fans can kick the Jets while their down but it wasn't that long ago that I could remember your franchise being a complete train wreck until Tuna took over. You better thank God every night for Kraft and the good people at Sony video equipment for your success!
Well if we have to wait to kick the Jets when they r up, we could be waiting a long time :football: Truth hurts sometimes and the truth is BB left the Jets because he knew it was a bad situation; it was then and it still is now. Coaching in NY is tuff and doing it with a meddlesome owner who doesn't know what he is doing makes it close to impossible.

NY'ers love Parcells and (did) love Mangini, but can't stand BB; such hypocrisy. The only difference between the 3 is BB is smarter and more successful than the other two :yes:

 

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