The Kurt Warner free agency saga (1 Viewer)

[gianmarco]

Details to follow

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Pete Prisco actually broke this last night around 8:00-9:00 on Sportsline...he had it buried after the "Dolphins are doing it right" portion of his column/blog. I'm too lazy to go over there and make the link. Good call Gian.

 

[fruity pebbles]

His demands seem a little greedy to me. Asking for top 4 QB money. At his age and his injury history, im not sure anyone is going to pay him 15 million per year. He also had the benefit of working with the best WR group in the NFL. The 10-12 million the Cards are offering seems more than fair to me, puts him in the top 10 instead of the top 5.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

His demands seem a little greedy to me. Asking for top 4 QB money. At his age and his injury history, im not sure anyone is going to pay him 15 million per year. He also had the benefit of working with the best WR group in the NFL. The 10-12 million the Cards are offering seems more than fair to me, puts him in the top 10 instead of the top 5.

It does seem that the Cards are taking advantage of the fact that he said he wanted to play for them or retire by lowballing him. They have tons of cap space and Warner has played like a top 5 QB the last coupls of years. Perhaps his demand is a little high but some team may just pay him as the market keeps going up. He should tell them good luck with Matt Leinart next season - afterall they do have those great WRs that can make any QB look good right?

 

[KellysHeroes]

Jets.. make a move; please

 

[beachbum]

Jets.. make a move; please

The Vikings traded for Rosenfels, so NY makes the most sense amng teams w/ a shot at the playoffs (aside from Carolina who should but won't pursue Warner)

 

[Phurfur]

His demands seem a little greedy to me. Asking for top 4 QB money. At his age and his injury history, im not sure anyone is going to pay him 15 million per year. He also had the benefit of working with the best WR group in the NFL. The 10-12 million the Cards are offering seems more than fair to me, puts him in the top 10 instead of the top 5.

It does seem that the Cards are taking advantage of the fact that he said he wanted to play for them or retire by lowballing him. They have tons of cap space and Warner has played like a top 5 QB the last coupls of years. Perhaps his demand is a little high but some team may just pay him as the market keeps going up. He should tell them good luck with Matt Leinart next season - afterall they do have those great WRs that can make any QB look good right?

No team is going to pay Warner 15 million next year. The Cards offer is fair if he doesn't like it they can move on. A $12 million offer is not taking advantage.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

His demands seem a little greedy to me. Asking for top 4 QB money. At his age and his injury history, im not sure anyone is going to pay him 15 million per year. He also had the benefit of working with the best WR group in the NFL. The 10-12 million the Cards are offering seems more than fair to me, puts him in the top 10 instead of the top 5.

It does seem that the Cards are taking advantage of the fact that he said he wanted to play for them or retire by lowballing him. They have tons of cap space and Warner has played like a top 5 QB the last coupls of years. Perhaps his demand is a little high but some team may just pay him as the market keeps going up. He should tell them good luck with Matt Leinart next season - afterall they do have those great WRs that can make any QB look good right?

No team is going to pay Warner 15 million next year. The Cards offer is fair if he doesn't like it they can move on. A $12 million offer is not taking advantage.

think he leaves for spite for like 8-10 for someone else?

 

[PewterFan]

Warner isn't going to leave Arizona. His agent just wants to squeeze as much money as they can from the Cardinals. The front office probably know this, so it's probably nothing more than an annoyance to them.

 

[Loopdog]

He's an idiot if he leaves Arizona. Would be sweet to see him go to Detroit though and get to throw to Calvin for a year or two

 

[Ned]

He's an idiot if he leaves Arizona. Would be sweet to see him go to Detroit though and get to throw to Calvin for a year or two

 

[Godsbrother]

Warner isn't going to leave Arizona. His agent just wants to squeeze as much money as they can from the Cardinals. The front office probably know this, so it's probably nothing more than an annoyance to them.

No good or bad guy here -- it is a negotiating ploy.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Jets.. make a move; please

The Vikings traded for Rosenfels, so NY makes the most sense amng teams w/ a shot at the playoffs (aside from Carolina who should but won't pursue Warner)

Would be nice to have Warner in a panthers uni...With Carolina's luck we'll be watching Jake again this year with no clear candidate for the future. You're a great guy Jake but I think it's time to move on....

 

[loose circuits]

was watching him on Mike & Mike earlier, it sure seems like he was talking like Matt Leinart will still have to wait...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

He's an idiot if he leaves Arizona. Would be sweet to see him go to Detroit though and get to throw to Calvin for a year or two

^^ Calvin Dynasty Owner^^LOL

 

[Dr. Octopus]

His demands seem a little greedy to me. Asking for top 4 QB money. At his age and his injury history, im not sure anyone is going to pay him 15 million per year. He also had the benefit of working with the best WR group in the NFL. The 10-12 million the Cards are offering seems more than fair to me, puts him in the top 10 instead of the top 5.

It does seem that the Cards are taking advantage of the fact that he said he wanted to play for them or retire by lowballing him. They have tons of cap space and Warner has played like a top 5 QB the last coupls of years. Perhaps his demand is a little high but some team may just pay him as the market keeps going up. He should tell them good luck with Matt Leinart next season - afterall they do have those great WRs that can make any QB look good right?

No team is going to pay Warner 15 million next year. The Cards offer is fair if he doesn't like it they can move on. A $12 million offer is not taking advantage.

$10-12 Million.You never know what a team will pay for a player it wants. Each year everyone is shocked by the money that gets tossed around. I did say that perhaps he's asking for too much, but at the same time their offer may very well be below market.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Where are people getting these numbers? The Cards haven't offered $12 mil per. At least they hadn't as of yesterday afternoon. Did something change last night?

The Cards offered 2/$20 mil. Warner's agent asked for 2/$28 mil.

They have a difference of opinion about what he's worth. So, he's going to go find out what he's worth on the open market. Nothing wrong with that. I still think he'll end up in a Cardinals uniform next season. Probably in the 2/$23 mil range. I think the Vikings might have been able to compete for him. I'm not sure he'll give the Jets a lot of consideration. KC might make the most sense with Haley there now, but he's not going to want to be a cold weather QB.

I still think the smart move for him would be to say, "Look, pay me $13 mil per or I'm retiring. OR, go make sure Anquan's coming back and we can talk about $10-11 mil per.

 

[CalBear]

Jets.. make a move; please

The Vikings traded for Rosenfels, so NY makes the most sense amng teams w/ a shot at the playoffs (aside from Carolina who should but won't pursue Warner)

Yeah, the Jets should definitely try to get an aging QB who's threatened retirement after one last magical season. That'll work out great.

 

[ThePittbully]

He's an idiot if he leaves Arizona. Would be sweet to see him go to Detroit though and get to throw to Calvin for a year or two

Yea and then get a full body reconstruction a few weeks into the season. Maybe you forgot, but Detroit's O line is terrible and Warner is not exactly indestructible

 

[Jason Wood]

I see this as negotiating ploys, nothing less, nothing more. Warner's agent bets that the media and fan reaction will be loud and clear enough to get Arizona to come closer to the number they're after. I can't fathom not having him back in Arizona. In what way would that be better for either party?

 

[mmmWaffles]

I see this as negotiating ploys, nothing less, nothing more. Warner's agent bets that the media and fan reaction will be loud and clear enough to get Arizona to come closer to the number they're after. I can't fathom not having him back in Arizona. In what way would that be better for either party?

Agreed. Seems like they're both on the same page in number of years. While it seems like a lot,, $12-$15 are still very much in the same ballpark. I wouldn't sweat this. Warner was on M&M, but I didn't get to hear him. If they were at $8 for 2 and he was at 15 for 3-4, I'b be worried, but I'd bet money that Warner will be back if the numbers are accurate.

 

[Phurfur]

His demands seem a little greedy to me. Asking for top 4 QB money. At his age and his injury history, im not sure anyone is going to pay him 15 million per year. He also had the benefit of working with the best WR group in the NFL. The 10-12 million the Cards are offering seems more than fair to me, puts him in the top 10 instead of the top 5.

It does seem that the Cards are taking advantage of the fact that he said he wanted to play for them or retire by lowballing him. They have tons of cap space and Warner has played like a top 5 QB the last coupls of years. Perhaps his demand is a little high but some team may just pay him as the market keeps going up. He should tell them good luck with Matt Leinart next season - afterall they do have those great WRs that can make any QB look good right?

No team is going to pay Warner 15 million next year. The Cards offer is fair if he doesn't like it they can move on. A $12 million offer is not taking advantage.

think he leaves for spite for like 8-10 for someone else?

No

 

[TheFanatic]

He's an idiot if he leaves Arizona. Would be sweet to see him go to Detroit though and get to throw to Calvin for a year game or two

Fixed. Warner wouldn't make it to week 8 behind that line on turf.

 

[Inspiration]

You almost have to feel bad for Mark Bartelstein. Warner wants him to get him a $15 million contract, yet he has essentially undermined him the entire way. Everyone already knows he isn't going to move his wife and seven kids just for a 1 or 2 year gig, and he hasn't made it any easier by repeated going on radio shows and stating his desire to play for the Cardinals or retire. Bartelstein is most likely bluffing by entering free agency, but Warner has already essentially tipped his hand multiple times in the past few weeks. Warner just told Dan Patrick that he would take $2 million less to help keep Boldin. That doesn't exactly tell me he is willing to move on if the Cardinals don't give him the offer he wants. Yet somehow he expects his agent to squeeze $3-5 million more out of the Cardinals with almost no leverage at all.

Of course, Bartelstein is going to be quite a bit wealthier after Warner eventually does sign a new deal, so I can't say I feel too bad for him.

 

[tombonneau]

On Dan Patrick, he was half-joking that he'd take less money if they committed to extending Boldin.

As others have said, this move by Warner is a negotiating ploy, no more no less. The worst kept secret in the NFL is that he wants to re-sign and only play for AZ. Given that gave his side little leverage, they need to do *something* to squeeze some more out of the Bidwells.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Jets.. make a move; please

The Vikings traded for Rosenfels, so NY makes the most sense amng teams w/ a shot at the playoffs (aside from Carolina who should but won't pursue Warner)

Yeah, the Jets should definitely try to get an aging QB who's threatened retirement after one last magical season. That'll work out great.

This didn't get enough love.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Excellent, I hope that Kurt gets what he deserves on the open market. Coming back to the Cardinals would be a terrible idea.

(Dynasty owner that got stuck with Leinart)

 

[Wilbur Wood]

On Dan Patrick, he was half-joking that he'd take less money if they committed to extending Boldin.As others have said, this move by Warner is a negotiating ploy, no more no less. The worst kept secret in the NFL is that he wants to re-sign and only play for AZ. Given that gave his side little leverage, they need to do *something* to squeeze some more out of the Bidwells.

It still is a dangerous gambit. There are 2 teams that are arguably more "Super Bowl-ready" than the Cards heading were heading into 2008 and that is Carolina and Minnesota.Carolina has a stellar offense already.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Where are people getting these numbers? The Cards haven't offered $12 mil per. At least they hadn't as of yesterday afternoon. Did something change last night? The Cards offered 2/$20 mil. Warner's agent asked for 2/$28 mil. They have a difference of opinion about what he's worth. So, he's going to go find out what he's worth on the open market. Nothing wrong with that. I still think he'll end up in a Cardinals uniform next season. Probably in the 2/$23 mil range. I think the Vikings might have been able to compete for him. I'm not sure he'll give the Jets a lot of consideration. KC might make the most sense with Haley there now, but he's not going to want to be a cold weather QB. I still think the smart move for him would be to say, "Look, pay me $13 mil per or I'm retiring. OR, go make sure Anquan's coming back and we can talk about $10-11 mil per.

 

[Da Guru]

The Vikings should be hot after Warner.

Good defense, they play in a dome, good WRs and a TE, and last but not least ADP and Chet. It would be a great situation for both Warner and the Vikes.

 

[TheFanatic]

The Vikings should be hot after Warner.Good defense, they play in a dome, good WRs and a TE, and last but not least ADP and Chet. It would be a great situation for both Warner and the Vikes.

Except of course for that trade they made for Sage Rosenfels. Strong D, strong running game. The Vikes don't need a prolific passer. They need a guy who doesn't lose the game. The D and running game will win it for them. Don't need a QB that can lose it....That money would be better spend elsewhere...

 

[ScottyFargo]

The Vikings should be hot after Warner.Good defense, they play in a dome, good WRs and a TE, and last but not least ADP and Chet. It would be a great situation for both Warner and the Vikes.

Except of course for that trade they made for Sage Rosenfels. Strong D, strong running game. The Vikes don't need a prolific passer. They need a guy who doesn't lose the game. The D and running game will win it for them. Don't need a QB that can lose it....That money would be better spend elsewhere...

Sage is making 3 million a year. It would suck for him to be in the same position he was in Texas, (not getting to fight for the #1 spot) but that doesn't mean the Vikings haven't already been looking at other QB options. Yesterday they were phoning Denver t ask about Cutler. They were pursuing a high ticket WR but he signed for more money elsewhere, so the Vikes options are still quite on the table right now. I personally had written off Warner some time ago, figuring it was Arizona or no where for him, but as time goes on the Vikings would be smart to give his agent a call.

 

[Gr00vus]

Why not TB? They cleared a bunch of salary, added Winslow, franchised Bryant. Too much of a different offensive system for Warner to fit in? More pressing needs elsewhere?

 

[Mikey16x]

The Vikings should be hot after Warner.

Good defense, they play in a dome, good WRs and a TE, and last but not least ADP and Chet. It would be a great situation for both Warner and the Vikes.

Berrian, Rice, Wade? or did they make some crazy FA pickup that I didn't see?

 

[bcr8f]

Kurt Warner apparently didn't leave his heart in San Francisco after a successful visit with the 49ers on Monday that could net him a rich two-year contract. Warner's heart is still with the Arizona Cardinals.

While he's pondering a more lucrative offer by the 49ers, Warner reached out to the Cardinals to give them a chance to sign him at a "hometown" discount.

On Tuesday, Warner instructed his agent, Mark Bartelstein, to make a two-year, $23 million proposal to stay with the Cardinals. According to Bartelstein, Warner's proposal would include $12 million in guarantees, $6 million each season.

To further sweeten the deal to the Cardinals, Warner, through Bartelstein, is willing to reduce his contract by $1 million a year if they can successfully renegotiate the contract of wide receiver Anquan Boldin.

 

[ScottyFargo]

The Vikings should be hot after Warner.

Good defense, they play in a dome, good WRs and a TE, and last but not least ADP and Chet. It would be a great situation for both Warner and the Vikes.

Berrian, Rice, Wade? or did they make some crazy FA pickup that I didn't see?

Rice's issues have been staying on the field. He's got a fresh start in his 3rd year, it's make or break time for him. Wade is reliable but nothing special. Berrian can be a playmaker but the Vikings passing offense is incredibly limiting so he hasn't had all the opportunities to do so...but he did make a 99 yard TD reception last year so I think he's tough.The Vikings this season: Have 11 games in a dome. Plays against Arizona. Strong D and running game with capable WRs. It's no coincidence that the Vikings are resigning FAs they like and were looking into guys like Houshmandzadeh and Cutler. Warner is old but he could do some damage with the Vikings.

 

[TheFanatic]

Kurt Warner apparently didn't leave his heart in San Francisco after a successful visit with the 49ers on Monday that could net him a rich two-year contract. Warner's heart is still with the Arizona Cardinals.While he's pondering a more lucrative offer by the 49ers, Warner reached out to the Cardinals to give them a chance to sign him at a "hometown" discount.On Tuesday, Warner instructed his agent, Mark Bartelstein, to make a two-year, $23 million proposal to stay with the Cardinals. According to Bartelstein, Warner's proposal would include $12 million in guarantees, $6 million each season.To further sweeten the deal to the Cardinals, Warner, through Bartelstein, is willing to reduce his contract by $1 million a year if they can successfully renegotiate the contract of wide receiver Anquan Boldin.

Why aren't they negotiating a bunch of incentives? Warner starts 16 games - extra million. Warner throws for 3500 yards. Extra $500K. 4000 yards, extra million. Warner throws for 32 TD's, extra million. 38 TD's extra $2 million. Make the playoffs. Extra $250K. Win the division extra $500K. Makes it to the NFC Championship game, extra $250K. Makees the SB extra $250K, etc. Has one rushing TD extra $3 million. They worry about the guy's age. Worry that time will catch up to him and he will under perform the contract. Fine. Write incentives for him to reach in order for him to earn what he wants to earn. $10 million each year with $4-6 million in incentives. He tears it up the Cards pay him. Warner blows a knee in the 1st game, the team eats $10 million for 2009 and cuts him for 2010 and this is all over. Sorta like the contract they offered him already - $10 million this year with a club option for $10 million for next year...Same result if he underperforms, right?

 

[Captain_Apocalypse]

Just seems to me that you are not so much paying for Warner as you are to keep a superbowl team together. Is that not worth something? Sure Warner may be a $10 mil/year QB at this point, but signing him, even w/o Boldin would give them a much better chance at making the superbowl again than letting him walk and going with Leinart. To me it's no so much about his ability, which I think most people have a decent read on, but about the team as a whole. Keeping the core of a SB team just seems like a no brainer. It is like paying an extra $9 mill. for another shot or two at the SB. Thats not to say they won't make it again, but they have a much better chance with Warner than w/o him IMO. I'd pay.

 

[kutta]

Kurt Warner apparently didn't leave his heart in San Francisco after a successful visit with the 49ers on Monday that could net him a rich two-year contract. Warner's heart is still with the Arizona Cardinals.

While he's pondering a more lucrative offer by the 49ers, Warner reached out to the Cardinals to give them a chance to sign him at a "hometown" discount.

On Tuesday, Warner instructed his agent, Mark Bartelstein, to make a two-year, $23 million proposal to stay with the Cardinals. According to Bartelstein, Warner's proposal would include $12 million in guarantees, $6 million each season.

To further sweeten the deal to the Cardinals, Warner, through Bartelstein, is willing to reduce his contract by $1 million a year if they can successfully renegotiate the contract of wide receiver Anquan Boldin.

If they don't get this deal done I'm going to poo all over myself.Here's the link.

 

[sparkky]

this is all so stupid. the Cards have NO IDEA what it's like to have a 2 year window to make championship runs. I guess when you haven't done this in like 3 generations you lose the concept of "WORLD CHAMPIONS".

how many teams in the league would mortgage anything for a 2 year window to get a ring.

If I was Warner I would have strongly considered calling TJ Housh and claiming, "dude, let's both go to Minny for a couple of years and make a run at a ring. our old teams don't seem to want us much."

the Cards are such idiots!!

 

[moderated]

Kurt Warner apparently didn't leave his heart in San Francisco after a successful visit with the 49ers on Monday that could net him a rich two-year contract. Warner's heart is still with the Arizona Cardinals.While he's pondering a more lucrative offer by the 49ers, Warner reached out to the Cardinals to give them a chance to sign him at a "hometown" discount.On Tuesday, Warner instructed his agent, Mark Bartelstein, to make a two-year, $23 million proposal to stay with the Cardinals. According to Bartelstein, Warner's proposal would include $12 million in guarantees, $6 million each season.To further sweeten the deal to the Cardinals, Warner, through Bartelstein, is willing to reduce his contract by $1 million a year if they can successfully renegotiate the contract of wide receiver Anquan Boldin.

Why aren't they negotiating a bunch of incentives? Warner starts 16 games - extra million. Warner throws for 3500 yards. Extra $500K. 4000 yards, extra million. Warner throws for 32 TD's, extra million. 38 TD's extra $2 million. Make the playoffs. Extra $250K. Win the division extra $500K. Makes it to the NFC Championship game, extra $250K. Makees the SB extra $250K, etc. Has one rushing TD extra $3 million. They worry about the guy's age. Worry that time will catch up to him and he will under perform the contract. Fine. Write incentives for him to reach in order for him to earn what he wants to earn. $10 million each year with $4-6 million in incentives. He tears it up the Cards pay him. Warner blows a knee in the 1st game, the team eats $10 million for 2009 and cuts him for 2010 and this is all over. Sorta like the contract they offered him already - $10 million this year with a club option for $10 million for next year...Same result if he underperforms, right?

No NFL players want a heavily weighted incentive contract, it's stupid of them to do based on the risk of injury or the situation they are put in.an injury to a QB hurts a WR, an injury to an olineman hurts a RB a ton/etc, too many things could go wrong out of a players control to make incentive based contracts viable in the NFL.Unless your Ricky Williams.

 

[flapgreen]

And this is why the Cardinals have been one of the worst franchises in NFL history. Letting something like this drag on with your star qb is inexcusable.

 

[flapgreen]

Kurt Warner apparently didn't leave his heart in San Francisco after a successful visit with the 49ers on Monday that could net him a rich two-year contract. Warner's heart is still with the Arizona Cardinals.While he's pondering a more lucrative offer by the 49ers, Warner reached out to the Cardinals to give them a chance to sign him at a "hometown" discount.On Tuesday, Warner instructed his agent, Mark Bartelstein, to make a two-year, $23 million proposal to stay with the Cardinals. According to Bartelstein, Warner's proposal would include $12 million in guarantees, $6 million each season.To further sweeten the deal to the Cardinals, Warner, through Bartelstein, is willing to reduce his contract by $1 million a year if they can successfully renegotiate the contract of wide receiver Anquan Boldin.

Why aren't they negotiating a bunch of incentives? Warner starts 16 games - extra million. Warner throws for 3500 yards. Extra $500K. 4000 yards, extra million. Warner throws for 32 TD's, extra million. 38 TD's extra $2 million. Make the playoffs. Extra $250K. Win the division extra $500K. Makes it to the NFC Championship game, extra $250K. Makees the SB extra $250K, etc. Has one rushing TD extra $3 million. They worry about the guy's age. Worry that time will catch up to him and he will under perform the contract. Fine. Write incentives for him to reach in order for him to earn what he wants to earn. $10 million each year with $4-6 million in incentives. He tears it up the Cards pay him. Warner blows a knee in the 1st game, the team eats $10 million for 2009 and cuts him for 2010 and this is all over. Sorta like the contract they offered him already - $10 million this year with a club option for $10 million for next year...Same result if he underperforms, right?

An incentive laden contract with the qb who just led/carried your franchise to it's first ever Super Bowl, all the while putting up all pro time numbers? Do you work for the Cardinals? WTF!!!

 

[RC94]

Kurt Warner apparently didn't leave his heart in San Francisco after a successful visit with the 49ers on Monday that could net him a rich two-year contract. Warner's heart is still with the Arizona Cardinals.While he's pondering a more lucrative offer by the 49ers, Warner reached out to the Cardinals to give them a chance to sign him at a "hometown" discount.On Tuesday, Warner instructed his agent, Mark Bartelstein, to make a two-year, $23 million proposal to stay with the Cardinals. According to Bartelstein, Warner's proposal would include $12 million in guarantees, $6 million each season.To further sweeten the deal to the Cardinals, Warner, through Bartelstein, is willing to reduce his contract by $1 million a year if they can successfully renegotiate the contract of wide receiver Anquan Boldin.

If they don't get this deal done I'm going to poo all over myself.

That is an image I didn't need in my head.

 

[Donnybrook]

Interesting story from Profootballtalk.com

The bold part cracks me up

CARDINALS STIFF FORMER COACHES OUT OF SUPER BOWL BONUSES

Posted by Mike Florio on March 3, 2009, 4:52 p.m.

Lest anyone think that our position regarding free-agent quarterback Kurt Warner arises from some sort of homerish tendencies toward the team with a red parakeet on its helmet, think again.

We’ve been saying for weeks that the Cardinals’ blind-squirrel-on-acorn trip to the Super Bowl doesn’t make a bad organization into a good one.

And, yeah, the Cardinals are still a bad organization.

Multiple league sources tell us that assistant coaches who left the team after the season ended have been stiffed out of Super Bowl bonuses.

Though we’re not sure whether the individual employment contracts call for the payments or whether these are amounts that teams pay as a matter of policy or practice, the point is that these men didn’t get paid money arising from the Super Bowl appearance that was paid to guys who are still employed.

Frugality is not a new dynamic in the desert. As former Cardinals safety Robert Griffith told Michael Silver, then of SI.com, in 2007, “They’re all show. They’re a facade. They say, ‘We’ve got the nicest stadium in North America’ — and they do. But everything else is to the penny.”

Griffith provided two examples to Silver. “When we’re not there on Tuesdays,” Griffith said, “they put a lock on the Gatorade fridge in the locker room.”

The other example came from what was in Griffith’s signing bonus check. Or, more accurately, what wasn’t in it.

“The Fed Ex [to send him the contract] cost $14.11 or something, and when I got my check, they’d deducted it — the check was for like $499,985.89, or whatever. That’s how they do sh-t in Arizona. That’s how they run their business!”

Our advice to Cardinals fans? Enjoy the climate-controlled temperature of the stadium and the video screens and the sound system and whatever food they sell there, because if you show up on Sundays suddenly expecting to see a winning team, you’re going to be disappointed.

Unless you’re rooting for the visitors.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

And this is why the Cardinals have been one of the worst franchises in NFL history. Letting something like this drag on with your star qb is inexcusable.

The Cards remind me of the fantasy owner who has been watching others play for a couple of years and now is trying it for themselves. Oh, you're SUPPOSED to play hardball when you negotiate. You're SUPPOSED to pretend you're ready to move on. You can't LOSE the negotiation, etc.Meanwhile the Giants lock up Eli and Jacobs in successive years and...move on with their business.

 

[Class Dismissed]

Jets.. make a move; please

The Vikings traded for Rosenfels, so NY makes the most sense amng teams w/ a shot at the playoffs (aside from Carolina who should but won't pursue Warner)

Yeah, the Jets should definitely try to get an aging QB who's threatened retirement after one last magical season. That'll work out great.

This didn't get enough love.

Agreed, very nice form and structure, a classic sarcastic laden jab.

 

[Godsbrother]

And this is why the Cardinals have been one of the worst franchises in NFL history. Letting something like this drag on with your star qb is inexcusable.

Relax. It is only the first week of March. The Cards want Warner and Warner wants to stay in Arizona. They'll get a deal done. What difference does it make if it is done in Feb or March?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Shouldn't the thread title be updated?!?

 

[flapgreen]

And this is why the Cardinals have been one of the worst franchises in NFL history. Letting something like this drag on with your star qb is inexcusable.

Relax. It is only the first week of March. The Cards want Warner and Warner wants to stay in Arizona. They'll get a deal done. What difference does it make if it is done in Feb or March?

I'm not a Cards fan but the fact they're letting things even come to this is pathetic. How many other teams in the league have let it come down to allowing their star qb visit other teams?(the successful ones)