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The middle-aged dummies are forming a band called "Blanket"! It's a cover band. (4 Viewers)
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Eephus
Footballguy
5.ee - Kurt Elling - "Matte Kudasai" (King Crimson cover)
The original: The early 80s King Crimson lineup of Fripp, Bruford, Belew and Levin is my favorite of the many configurations of the group. They toned down some of the Prog extravagances with shorter punchier songs influenced by New Wave and Berlin-period Bowie. You don't usually associate King Crimson with ballads but "Matte Kudasai" is a gorgeous one from their 1981 album Discipline. The title is Japanese for "please wait".
The cover: Jazz vocalist Kurt Elling recorded "Matte Kudasai" along with other Rock and Pop covers on his 2011 album The Gate. It's an interesting choice but the song translates surprisingly well to the Jazz idiom. Elling's version sticks to the same tempo but the arrangement for a Jazz quartet is simpler than the busier King Crimson version.
Is the cover better than the original?: I love both versions but I'm going to say Elling's cover is superior. He's a better, more expressive singer than Adrian Belew who tries his best but just doesn't have pipes. I think the Jazz accompaniment works well on the cover. It leaves more space for the singer and the lyrics. King Crimson has more going on in the background with Belew's guitar birdsong and a more active and present bassline.
https://open.spotify.com/track/3eYxUakS4FvegXg8qUo8ro?si=a574cafc81f943d9
Running scoreboard: Originals 3 - Covers 2
The original: The early 80s King Crimson lineup of Fripp, Bruford, Belew and Levin is my favorite of the many configurations of the group. They toned down some of the Prog extravagances with shorter punchier songs influenced by New Wave and Berlin-period Bowie. You don't usually associate King Crimson with ballads but "Matte Kudasai" is a gorgeous one from their 1981 album Discipline. The title is Japanese for "please wait".
The cover: Jazz vocalist Kurt Elling recorded "Matte Kudasai" along with other Rock and Pop covers on his 2011 album The Gate. It's an interesting choice but the song translates surprisingly well to the Jazz idiom. Elling's version sticks to the same tempo but the arrangement for a Jazz quartet is simpler than the busier King Crimson version.
Is the cover better than the original?: I love both versions but I'm going to say Elling's cover is superior. He's a better, more expressive singer than Adrian Belew who tries his best but just doesn't have pipes. I think the Jazz accompaniment works well on the cover. It leaves more space for the singer and the lyrics. King Crimson has more going on in the background with Belew's guitar birdsong and a more active and present bassline.
https://open.spotify.com/track/3eYxUakS4FvegXg8qUo8ro?si=a574cafc81f943d9
Running scoreboard: Originals 3 - Covers 2
Eephus
Footballguy
don't bother knokken
rockaction
Footballguy
Aw, ****. It was the next page, too.
At least you're not skipped an buried at the bottom of Page 4 like you hate, Eephus.
Mt. Man
Footballguy
This was a krista4 correction (whilst I was trying to fix a few others I had wrong >.>). Apparently, Brenda Lee recorded it first but Gwen McCrae released it first. Don't be surprised if yours -- er, I mean, any hypothetical further covers of this song -- also get changed.
Eephus
Footballguy
Brenda Lee is sorry about that
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Yep. He can play guitar just fine. He can't sing for doodly. I can appreciate him, but I can't listen to him at all.
krista4
Footballguy
He's also a world-class doooooosh.
(Thumper Rule only applies to the music, right?)
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Very nice. This song was the only good thing about the movie. Alison Krauss is always a winner.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Oh, gross. TMI.Well, I guess that means the microphone is dirty too.I bet ya $100 that shirtless lead singer is wearing dirty underwear.
I dig their version on the playlist!
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Oh, YES! I really didn't expect to hear Billy Gibbons. Excellent.This was great-thanks for posting!After you've checked out the original Mac version of Manalishi, check out this performance a couple of years ago by Mick Fleetwood and Friends. Kirk Hammett is playing with Peter Green's Les Paul used on the original recording.
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krista4
Footballguy
My boss and OH have very similar first names (Devin and David), and they're often the last people I've texted, so I'm constantly in a panic that I'll text the wrong one based on just seeing the first name. Maybe I should change one of their names in my contacts. Anyway, texted "**** this shi-ite, I'm pouring wine" to OH a few minutes ago and then panicked. Good news - I sent to the right person!
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
You might as well change OH's name in your phone to OH. I mean, it's what we call him...
krista4
Footballguy
You might as well change OH's name in your phone to OH. I mean, it's what we call him...
This is probably the best option.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Chaos34
Footballguy
Dare I confess this. I really need that eye doctor... um.
I read Oliver Cocksformesometimes. I was like whaaaaa?
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I have an eye appointment next month. It seems I really need one, too.Dare I confess this. I really need that eye doctor... um.
I read Oliver Cocksformesometimes. I was like whaaaaa?
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Jesus christ, I am just looking back through one of the previous countdowns and am listening to one of my previous picks, and they are literally playing live in my home town tomorrow. That is completely not fair to spring something like that on me with that short a notice when I need to be up at about 7 on the Saturday
Just stay up all night
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
One of the reasons I think the Dead are the greatest American band ever is their celebration of American music through their covers. Rock, folk, country, blues, you name it. I seriously considered choosing 31 songs covered by them.
For most of their covers I chose for this, I picked songs they played so often and so well the songs practically became their own. That might be blasphemous to Cash fans, but I think this one is pretty close, with the Dead having covered it live 398 times.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
New-to-me covers from #27 that I really enjoyed:
Sweetheart Like You – Craig Finn (Robert Zimmerman) -- I can actually understand Finn better than Dylan.
The Infidels album (Dylan's first after his born-again phase) is seriously underrated.
Pills - The New York Dolls (Bo Diddley) -- At first I thought this was Mick Jagger, but then I realized it was his acolyte, David Johansen.
Matte Kudasai - Kurt Elling (King Crimson) -- Stunning. What a vocal. I checked out the Crimson original and loved that too.
Burning Down the House - Dave Matthews Band (Talking Heads) -- Could easily have been made twee, but ends up grittier than what we often get from DMB.
Black Sabbath Medley – Candlemass (Black Sabbath) -- This was fun, and I pumped my fist when the Supernaut riff showed up.
The Way You Wear Your Head - Charly Bliss (Nada Surf) -- Lovely.
Caravan - Brian Setzer Orchestra (Duke Ellington) -- Surf rock crossed with big-band jazz?
I have seen Phish perform this. They played lots of jazz covers when they were a bar/club band, but mostly stopped when they moved to arenas. However, they broke this out at the old Spectrum in Philly on their New Year's Run in 1996.
Bennie & The Jets – Hickoids (Elton John) -- Another good example of an artist imposing their own style on a cover while keeping the best aspects of the original.
Come On Eileen - Save Ferris (Dexy's Midnight Runners) -- This too.
Baker Street - Foo Fighters (Gerry Rafferty) -- A yacht rocker turned into a bona fide alt rocker. And this was done in 1997 so it wasn't shtick.
From the Beginning - Dokken (ELP) -- Really well executed. Wasn't expecting to hear electric guitar instead of synthesizer at the end.
Sweetheart Like You – Craig Finn (Robert Zimmerman) -- I can actually understand Finn better than Dylan.
The Infidels album (Dylan's first after his born-again phase) is seriously underrated.Pills - The New York Dolls (Bo Diddley) -- At first I thought this was Mick Jagger, but then I realized it was his acolyte, David Johansen.
Matte Kudasai - Kurt Elling (King Crimson) -- Stunning. What a vocal. I checked out the Crimson original and loved that too.
Burning Down the House - Dave Matthews Band (Talking Heads) -- Could easily have been made twee, but ends up grittier than what we often get from DMB.
Black Sabbath Medley – Candlemass (Black Sabbath) -- This was fun, and I pumped my fist when the Supernaut riff showed up.
The Way You Wear Your Head - Charly Bliss (Nada Surf) -- Lovely.
Caravan - Brian Setzer Orchestra (Duke Ellington) -- Surf rock crossed with big-band jazz?
I have seen Phish perform this. They played lots of jazz covers when they were a bar/club band, but mostly stopped when they moved to arenas. However, they broke this out at the old Spectrum in Philly on their New Year's Run in 1996.Bennie & The Jets – Hickoids (Elton John) -- Another good example of an artist imposing their own style on a cover while keeping the best aspects of the original.
Come On Eileen - Save Ferris (Dexy's Midnight Runners) -- This too.
Baker Street - Foo Fighters (Gerry Rafferty) -- A yacht rocker turned into a bona fide alt rocker. And this was done in 1997 so it wasn't shtick.
From the Beginning - Dokken (ELP) -- Really well executed. Wasn't expecting to hear electric guitar instead of synthesizer at the end.
krista4
Footballguy
I've been putting together lists for Hawks in advance of his upcoming trip, and I realized that if I'd done a SUPER-AWESOME-MEGA-CONTEST!!!111, a good question might have been whether Johnny Cash would show up more often as coverer or coveree. Maybe it won't be close at the end, but through the 10-to-11-pointers, it seems like a close call.
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Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
You should really enjoy the next MAD countdown. He's done some very diverse stuff.Caravan - Brian Setzer Orchestra (Duke Ellington) -- Surf rock crossed with big-band jazz?
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I think the bolded is their biggest contribution to music. They served as a gateway (grateway?) to a ton of legacy artists that their fans otherwise probably would have ignored. They also kind of set the template for Free Form Radio in the late 60s, as those channels would often slip in a Leadbelly or Merle Travis record between the Doors & Hendrix.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I think I've mentioned this here before, but I have Binky in my phone as first name: Binky, last name: Doormat. I wasn't adding "New" to it.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Because I have to meet or work with a bunch of different contractors at work I do the same . Sometimes it's what they do(Plaster Dave) and sometimes their company name (Kevin Mastercraft)
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
There used to be a certain troll here that always found a way to get his reply at the very top of the page. My hobby was going back in the thread and deleting one of my posts to drop him back to the bottom of the previous page.
zamboni
Footballguy
Combine the two and you could essentially have Plaster Caster.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Chaos34
Footballguy
The Eagles have out-sold the Dead. Just sayin'.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
The Eagles have out-sold the Dead. Just sayin'.
I'm not basing it on sales. But maybe you haven't been reading the news.
Chaos34
Footballguy
The Eagles have out-sold the Dead. Just sayin'.
I'm not basing it on sales. But maybe you haven't been reading the news.
Maybe?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
yeah, and?
The Eagles have out-sold the Dead. Just sayin'.
zamboni
Footballguy
David Lemieux has been a godsend for them over the years.
The Eagles have out-sold the Dead. Just sayin'.
I'm not basing it on sales. But maybe you haven't been reading the news.
Mt. Man
Footballguy
Now time for the #27s. This might have been the closest mix of known covers and new experiences for me so far. With that, there are definitely several songs that almost made one of my two lists. Maybe I should’ve gone with 5 each? Eh, I'll save it as something to build towards.
Recognized by title alone: 19
Sounded familiar: 4
Didn’t Know: 11
Selected Favorites:
It’s all So Quiet - Bjork.
People Are Strange - Echo & The Bunnymen. I definitely have a soft spot for The Lost Boys soundtrack.
Baker Street - Foo Fighters. I feel like I should’ve included this even knowing that it wasn’t on Spotify
Come on Eileen - Save Ferris
Hadn’t heard before, but liked
Sweetheart Like You - Craig Finn
Matte Kudasai - Kurt Elling
The Way You Wear Your Head - Charly Bliss
From the Beginning - Dokken
Recognized by title alone: 19
Sounded familiar: 4
Didn’t Know: 11
Selected Favorites:
It’s all So Quiet - Bjork.
People Are Strange - Echo & The Bunnymen. I definitely have a soft spot for The Lost Boys soundtrack.
Baker Street - Foo Fighters. I feel like I should’ve included this even knowing that it wasn’t on Spotify
Come on Eileen - Save Ferris
Hadn’t heard before, but liked
Sweetheart Like You - Craig Finn
Matte Kudasai - Kurt Elling
The Way You Wear Your Head - Charly Bliss
From the Beginning - Dokken
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Chaos34
Footballguy
and maybe the greatest american band ever is a subjective topic.yeah, and?
The Eagles have out-sold the Dead. Just sayin'.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
of course it is - who said otherwise?and maybe the greatest american band ever is a subjective topic.yeah, and?
The Eagles have out-sold the Dead. Just sayin'.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Clearly, if your selection isn't on the Spotify playlist it's going to be overlooked. 
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah clicking on individual links for each song (and having to wait for commercials) is not an ideal way to listen to music for me. I get not everything is on Spotify, and that's unfortunate, but the playlist is what works for me.Clearly, if your selection isn't on the Spotify playlist it's going to be overlooked.
zamboni
Footballguy
I learned that from the last go around. I live on YouTube, so I used those links in the past, but realize that people typically aren't ready to listen at the time of the initial post. Typically happens later on and Spotify is the repository for the selections.Clearly, if your selection isn't on the Spotify playlist it's going to be overlooked.
Chaos34
Footballguy
shuke?of course it is - who said otherwise?and maybe the greatest american band ever is a subjective topic.yeah, and?
The Eagles have out-sold the Dead. Just sayin'.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
shuke?of course it is - who said otherwise?and maybe the greatest american band ever is a subjective topic.yeah, and?
The Eagles have out-sold the Dead. Just sayin'.
Chaos34
Footballguy
In this exercise I am guilty as charged, sorry. spotify is free and very easy to use. i've complained enough about it, prefer vids on youtube, but i give. know what? having not used spotify for a few years, i'm kinda liking it.Clearly, if your selection isn't on the Spotify playlist it's going to be overlooked.
Chaos34
Footballguy
you think i read posts!? at least we all agree.shuke?of course it is - who said otherwise?and maybe the greatest american band ever is a subjective topic.yeah, and?
The Eagles have out-sold the Dead. Just sayin'.
Chaos34
Footballguy
i'm sorry gb. i was not arguing just fiddling with eagles shtick. very lighthearted here. the dead are friggin amazing. i'm better after my coffee.
simey
Footballguy
- I still dig the cover of "Bennie and the Jets" by Hickoids. I think their sleaze rock kicks the song up a notch vs Elton's original.
- This folk countryish cover of "My One Desire" by Freakwater is great. I like it better than Ricky's version, and his is good. I like Freakwater's simple guitar to the lyrics of the song.
- NC home girl Nina Simone does an awesome cover of "I Put A Spell on You." I love her version.
- "So. Central Rain" is one of my favorite R.E.M. songs. This slow tempo cover by Grant-Lee Phillips is like REM on ludes, and I think it's great.
- The "I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow" cover by Alison Krauss and Union Station is my cup of tea. It gets me excited for Merlefest this April.
- The "Big Country" cover by GD has the hippie dippers/spinners activated.
- "The Way You Wear Your Head" cover by Charly Bliss is fun and has the energy of Nada Surf's version.
- I like the arrangement on Bowies cover of "See Emily Play." His cover is a bit heavier I think than the original, but it doesn't lose the feel of the song.
- "She said, She said" by The Black Keys is a cool fuzzy wuzzy version.
- I like the use of the guitar in place of the saxophone on "Baker Street" by the Foos. It works well.
- This folk countryish cover of "My One Desire" by Freakwater is great. I like it better than Ricky's version, and his is good. I like Freakwater's simple guitar to the lyrics of the song.
- NC home girl Nina Simone does an awesome cover of "I Put A Spell on You." I love her version.
- "So. Central Rain" is one of my favorite R.E.M. songs. This slow tempo cover by Grant-Lee Phillips is like REM on ludes, and I think it's great.
- The "I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow" cover by Alison Krauss and Union Station is my cup of tea. It gets me excited for Merlefest this April.
- The "Big Country" cover by GD has the hippie dippers/spinners activated.
- "The Way You Wear Your Head" cover by Charly Bliss is fun and has the energy of Nada Surf's version.
- I like the arrangement on Bowies cover of "See Emily Play." His cover is a bit heavier I think than the original, but it doesn't lose the feel of the song.
- "She said, She said" by The Black Keys is a cool fuzzy wuzzy version.
- I like the use of the guitar in place of the saxophone on "Baker Street" by the Foos. It works well.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Does "regular" Spotify do lossless yet or do they charge extra?
Apple Music does lossless and the quality improvement is noticeable.
Apple Music does lossless and the quality improvement is noticeable.
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shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
I know, all good.
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