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The Most Overrated Player in Fantasy Football? (1 Viewer)

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There's no right or wrong answer here. Just curious what people think.

Every year, or over the past several years, there's always that one player that continually gets taken in fantasy drafts that you scratch your head over.

Whether it's based on brand name recognition or that one promising season or whatever, there's always that one player.

Or put differently, he has a reputation for being good, but he actually isn't.

Curious who people think that is.

 
No Contest -Michael Vick from Day One!
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I'll tell ya this, his ADP is useless for basing a draft plan on.I was in a league where he was drafted in the first round last year and another so late like 12th or 13th. If his ADP is 6th and that seems reasonable well....he's real tricky.

IMO Everyone thinks like you and that makes me wanna keep an eye open for him becoming a value after everyone passes

 
Vick's just about a value play these days.
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Esepecially if those young WRs come into form.
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Do you smell 1k from Roddy White this year? I'm flippy floppy on it.
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I wouldn't project that for him in just his second year, but I definitely think this kid has the "it" factor. Kid is a playmaker pure and simple and more importantly he loves the game...what I call the Jerry Rice factor.

 
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That's what I'm thinking.

Everything I see/hear/read about the Falcons just reaks of "tank in '06" and "Win the NFC in '07".

This just adds to that.

 
Larry Johnson.

People act like last year was the tip of the iceberg. I think last season will prove to be the best season of his entire career.

The way people are talking about him it sounds like they are going to be disappointed with 1500/15 and I doubt he gets that.

 
Speaking of Falcons, one player that I've felt has been overrated for the past few seasons was Peerless Price.

The guy had one good season in Buffalo with Moulds drawing double coverage, went off to ATL, and just flat did nothing.

That said, my nominee for the fantasy player that seems to get drafted every year, and seldom lives up to his draft spot is Keyshawn Johnson.

Yes, he had a nice season last year, but it wasn't anything special. Yet he gets taken in the mid rounds every year, it seems.

 
Larry Johnson.

People act like last year was the tip of the iceberg. I think last season will prove to be the best season of his entire career.

The way people are talking about him it sounds like they are going to be disappointed with 1500/15 and I doubt he gets that.
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Bet you a lifetime sig he gets 1500/15. The guy is seriously the next Jim Brown.Jim Brown highlights (skip halfway through it to get to the JB highlights).

Larry Johnson highlights

Watch those first though.

 
Vick's just about a value play these days.
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Vick's been a great value play for two straight years now. I've taken him around the 10th-12th QB off the board, and he's produced as the 10th-12th QB off the board. I expect more of the same this year- I'll grab him as my QB1 after everyone has taken a starter and even started in on the backups, and I'll get starter-caliber production from him all year long. :)
 
Vick's just about a value play these days.
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Vick's been a great value play for two straight years now. I've taken him around the 10th-12th QB off the board, and he's produced as the 10th-12th QB off the board. I expect more of the same this year-
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doesn't seem you worded that right as the values are equal
 
Vick's just about a value play these days.
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Vick's been a great value play for two straight years now. I've taken him around the 10th-12th QB off the board, and he's produced as the 10th-12th QB off the board. I expect more of the same this year-
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doesn't seem you worded that right as the values are equal
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Well, I consider a player performing up to the level I drafted him at to be "good value", especially given the ridiculously high number of even HIGH draft picks that bust. Even if a player slightly underplays his selection, I still might consider him "good value". For instance, if I grabbed an RB as the 7th off the board, and he finished 10th overall, I'd still consider that pick to be "good value", considering the number of Kevin Jones / Ricky Williams / Travis Henry / Jamal Lewis / Kevan Barlows there are lurking out there.
 
Michael Clayton.
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The most overrated? Ouch. That's tough.
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Not sure where all his Clayton hate came from, but I'm pretty sure this might change his mind when he wakes up. Sounds to me like a guy who drafted him in the 4th round last year and is still a little :hot: :rant: :yucky:
 
Vick's just about a value play these days.
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Vick's been a great value play for two straight years now. I've taken him around the 10th-12th QB off the board, and he's produced as the 10th-12th QB off the board. I expect more of the same this year- I'll grab him as my QB1 after everyone has taken a starter and even started in on the backups, and I'll get starter-caliber production from him all year long. :)
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Vick's sporatic play makes it hard for me to agree that he is a value pick. It just seems so hard for me to pick a player like Vick as my QB 1 and then really have to worry if he is going to have one of those Mike Vick weeks where he throws for 0 TD with 150 yards passing. Never every player could have a week like this but with Vick it is definitely an increase as far as QB 1's are concerned.Vick finished as the 11th QB in my main money league last season, however this finish is a little misleading IMO and here is why. Vick finished 11th last season with a very mediocre season only because of the freak injuries that occured to QB's last season: McNabb, Culpepper, McNair, Bulger and Leftwich would have all finished higher than Vick last season if they had not been injured. This would have pushed Vick to the 15-18 QB range last season and it is where I feel he should be ranked and where he will end up finishing this year. Also, add Roethlisberger, Brooks, Favre, and Warner as guys who finished behind Vick last season that could easily out produce him this year who I would much rather take a chance on than Vick. So 9 QB's that Vick finished ahead of last season are QB's that I would rather take. Combine that with the 10 QB's that finished ahead of Vick last season and I would see myself taking at the minimum 15 QB's before Vick and possibly 19. Furthermore, Vick's inconsistency and his injury prone history make it hard for me to agree with anyone selecting him as their QB1.

5 out of the 15 games Vick started last season he failed to throw for a single TD. Also 3 out of those 15 games Vick failed to throw or run for a TD. In 8 of those 15 games he had 1 total combined rushing and passing TD.

2 years ago Vick had a combined 17 TD's and this past season he had 21 combined TD's which is not great at all. Heck G. Ferrote had 18 combined TD's last season in Miami. There was seventeen QB's last season who had at least 17 or more combined TD's this past season. McNabb had 17 TD's in only 9 games of action.

I will gladly take Vick as a QB2 on my teams if he falls in the draft, but I find it hard to ever select him as my QB1 at this point in his career. Yes, he has great upside, but at this point I feel he should be seen as a QB 2 with potential to be QB 1.

 
Larry Johnson.

People act like last year was the tip of the iceberg. I think last season will prove to be the best season of his entire career.

The way people are talking about him it sounds like they are going to be disappointed with 1500/15 and I doubt he gets that.
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:goodposting: I think it is crazy :loco: to draft LJ over LT or SA.

 
Lot's of good posts in here and terrific nominations.

One player the past couple of seasons has been Brett Favre. It's sad that he's still trying to hang on when his best years are clearly long gone. Since few people will go too high on him this year, he may not be the best suggestion, but last year.....

 
This season, its a tie between Antonio Gates & Chester Taylor.

 
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Lot's of good posts in here and terrific nominations. 

One player the past couple of seasons has been Brett Favre.  It's sad that he's still trying to hang on when his best years are clearly long gone.  Since few people will go too high on him this year, he may not be the best suggestion, but last year.....
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Take your hate elsewhere. And thanks for telling us who was the most overrated last year, that's very helpful. This year Brett is known as a value play because people like you are a year behind the curve. Actually :goodposting: :boxing:

 
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Vick's just about a value play these days.
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Vick's been a great value play for two straight years now. I've taken him around the 10th-12th QB off the board, and he's produced as the 10th-12th QB off the board. I expect more of the same this year- I'll grab him as my QB1 after everyone has taken a starter and even started in on the backups, and I'll get starter-caliber production from him all year long. :)
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Vick's sporatic play makes it hard for me to agree that he is a value pick. It just seems so hard for me to pick a player like Vick as my QB 1 and then really have to worry if he is going to have one of those Mike Vick weeks where he throws for 0 TD with 150 yards passing. Never every player could have a week like this but with Vick it is definitely an increase as far as QB 1's are concerned.Vick finished as the 11th QB in my main money league last season, however this finish is a little misleading IMO and here is why. Vick finished 11th last season with a very mediocre season only because of the freak injuries that occured to QB's last season: McNabb, Culpepper, McNair, Bulger and Leftwich would have all finished higher than Vick last season if they had not been injured. This would have pushed Vick to the 15-18 QB range last season and it is where I feel he should be ranked and where he will end up finishing this year. Also, add Roethlisberger, Brooks, Favre, and Warner as guys who finished behind Vick last season that could easily out produce him this year who I would much rather take a chance on than Vick. So 9 QB's that Vick finished ahead of last season are QB's that I would rather take. Combine that with the 10 QB's that finished ahead of Vick last season and I would see myself taking at the minimum 15 QB's before Vick and possibly 19. Furthermore, Vick's inconsistency and his injury prone history make it hard for me to agree with anyone selecting him as their QB1.

5 out of the 15 games Vick started last season he failed to throw for a single TD. Also 3 out of those 15 games Vick failed to throw or run for a TD. In 8 of those 15 games he had 1 total combined rushing and passing TD.

2 years ago Vick had a combined 17 TD's and this past season he had 21 combined TD's which is not great at all. Heck G. Ferrote had 18 combined TD's last season in Miami. There was seventeen QB's last season who had at least 17 or more combined TD's this past season. McNabb had 17 TD's in only 9 games of action.

I will gladly take Vick as a QB2 on my teams if he falls in the draft, but I find it hard to ever select him as my QB1 at this point in his career. Yes, he has great upside, but at this point I feel he should be seen as a QB 2 with potential to be QB 1.
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People like to point to the lack of TD that Vick gets, but forget that in many leagues rushing yards score twice what passing yards do. So in a year like 2004, Vick had the equivalent of over 4,100 passing yards.Vick has now had 20 or more combined TD in 2 of his 3 years as a starter. Last year there were 14 QB will 20 combined TD. I suspect Vick will again get the equivalent of 4,000 yards (counting rushing yards double) and 20 TD, and IMO that is a decent year for any fantasy QB. (I see him getting a few more passing yards (2600-2700) and 650-700 rushing yards.)

 
This year's most overrated player is Lamont Jordan. How does a guy with a 3.8 ypc playing in a terrible offensive situation get selected at 1.08? Yes, in PPR leagues, he looks great, but I don't beleive that he's going to catch 70 balls again.

 
Larry Johnson.

People act like last year was the tip of the iceberg. I think last season will prove to be the best season of his entire career.

The way people are talking about him it sounds like they are going to be disappointed with 1500/15 and I doubt he gets that.
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I agree with this. All the 2000yd 25TD talk is insane IMO.I also want to add Eli Manning to the list. He showed nothing but regression over the second half of last season.

 
This year's most overrated player is Lamont Jordan. How does a guy with a 3.8 ypc playing in a terrible offensive situation get selected at 1.08? Yes, in PPR leagues, he looks great, but I don't beleive that he's going to catch 70 balls again.
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Terrible offensive situation? Moss, Brooks, young line? How is the offensive situation worse than last year?
 
This year's most overrated player is Lamont Jordan. How does a guy with a 3.8 ypc playing in a terrible offensive situation get selected at 1.08? Yes, in PPR leagues, he looks great, but I don't beleive that he's going to catch 70 balls again.
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some of the FBG "experts" have him as high as #4 and #5 overall. :shock:
 
The last two seasons it's been Randy Moss.

I think Vick is the most right answer overall, though.

 
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Reggie Bush.
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:yes: the guy hasn't even signed, yet lots of people seem to be pretty sure of how he'll be used and how much of a load he'll carry.
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Assuming he signs, in a PPR league he's gold, even if he only touches the ball 10-12 timea a game.
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I'll give you that he should be very good, but he's being drafted as high as #4 in some dynasties, before ever getting in a game. He might be the next Barry, but he's overrated right now.
 
This year's most overrated player is Lamont Jordan. How does a guy with a 3.8 ypc playing in a terrible offensive situation get selected at 1.08? Yes, in PPR leagues, he looks great, but I don't beleive that he's going to catch 70 balls again.
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Terrible offensive situation? Moss, Brooks, young line? How is the offensive situation worse than last year?
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No good NFL QB on the roster makes this position a merry-go-round all season. Moss is hit-or-miss and doesn't play well on non-competitive teams. He is not a good role model, and he's been banged up a lot. And young o-line isn't the same as good o-line. Heck, let's see if Robert Gallery is really ready to play LT. But that's what's happening here. Guys like Moss and Brooks have put up great fantasy numbers in the past, and it's coulding people's judgment about Jordan.

 
Larry Johnson.

People act like last year was the tip of the iceberg. I think last season will prove to be the best season of his entire career.

The way people are talking about him it sounds like they are going to be disappointed with 1500/15 and I doubt he gets that.
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I agree 100%, which is no way knocking Johnson's talent level. He is a good football player but I just do not see it. At somepoint in the last few years the FF community has come to feel 20 plus touchdowns and near 2,000 rushing yard or 2,000 plus combined yard seasons are the norm, which is just not the case. Somewhere the exception became the rule. There is just no way Johnson can meet the expectations, opinion.

 
Peyton Manning
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:yes: He goes in the first round of my league every year but still hasn't been on the championship team.
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All my leagues give 6 points for a TD (as I think it absolutely should) and Manning has been on the winning team 4 out of 5 years. In 2004 he carried "every" team to the championship.He is a no doubt 1st round pick for any 6 pt per td league, especially if a keeper/dyansty.

 
Peyton Manning
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:yes: He goes in the first round of my league every year but still hasn't been on the championship team.
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All my leagues give 6 points for a TD (as I think it absolutely should) and Manning has been on the winning team 4 out of 5 years. In 2004 he carried "every" team to the championship.He is a no doubt 1st round pick for any 6 pt per td league, especially if a keeper/dyansty.
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Even in a 14 team league ?
 
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