The Official Bench Rex Thread (1 Viewer)

[EugeneChung]

Just wanted to put it out there...Grossman seemed way off on his throws today and he wasn't impressive against the Jets either (the only two games I've seen live). Will Lovie make the change? Would you?

I would - solid corps of receivers, a productive to excellent running game, and a great defense are being wasted by errant throws, forcing throws into double coverage, and mismanagement during pressure games. If the Bears go anywhere, Griese will be the guy who takes them there.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I do enjoy the Eugene Chung reference however.

 

[Futility]

Rex Grossman won't be benched until it's determined that he is not the franchise's QB of the future. That won't happen this year.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I said it before in the other thread. If you bench Grossman, you still only have Brian Griese.

Sure maybe he can play the Trent Dilfer role and not make the big mistake, but he's far from a savior.

 

[rockbottom895]

Just wanted to put it out there...Grossman seemed way off on his throws today and he wasn't impressive against the Jets either (the only two games I've seen live). Will Lovie make the change? Would you? I would - solid corps of receivers, a productive to excellent running game, and a great defense are being wasted by errant throws, forcing throws into double coverage, and mismanagement during pressure games. If the Bears go anywhere, Griese will be the guy who takes them there.

No, I would 100 percent NOT make the switch to Griese. I dont know if you any of you followed Griese throughout his career, but he hasn't been a QB who takes care of the football all that well either. Although he would do a much better job than Grossman of creating less turnovers, his production at the QB position wouldnt even come close to what Rex has done this year. This should be a no brainer for Lovie. Keep Rex in there if you have any aspirations of making it to the Super Bowl. Also, if not for a ridiculous catch by Asantae Samuel, we would not be hearing any of these critics. The Bears played a great game, and lost to arguably one of the best teams in the NFL by 4 points in their house. Do you guys really feel that Griese can lead this team like Rex has? Not a shot in the world. STAY WITH REX

 

[Your Mom]

Just wanted to put it out there...Grossman seemed way off on his throws today and he wasn't impressive against the Jets either (the only two games I've seen live). Will Lovie make the change? Would you? I would - solid corps of receivers, a productive to excellent running game, and a great defense are being wasted by errant throws, forcing throws into double coverage, and mismanagement during pressure games. If the Bears go anywhere, Griese will be the guy who takes them there.

No, I would 100 percent NOT make the switch to Griese. I dont know if you any of you followed Griese throughout his career, but he hasn't been a QB who takes care of the football all that well either. Although he would do a much better job than Grossman of creating less turnovers, his production at the QB position wouldnt even come close to what Rex has done this year. This should be a no brainer for Lovie. Keep Rex in there if you have any aspirations of making it to the Super Bowl. Also, if not for a ridiculous catch by Asantae Samuel, we would not be hearing any of these critics. The Bears played a great game, and lost to arguably one of the best teams in the NFL by 4 points in their house. Do you guys really feel that Griese can lead this team like Rex has? Not a shot in the world. STAY WITH REX

Griese is on his 4th team for a reason. Rex does need to stop doing this and ron turner needs to start play calling like a normal OC. Not Steve Spurrier.I'll take my chances with Rex over Griese.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Send me a memo when Griese wins a playoff game as a starting QB.

I'm busy reading memos from Patriots fans tonight.

 

[Oh the Humanity]

The Bears are good enough to win the Super Bowl, but they aren't good enough to do it with the Quarterback just managing the game which is what they'd want the Griese to do. The Defense is good, but not '85 Bears good, especially without Brown. The running game is decent, but not good enough to carry the load on it's own. Griese might be the more savvy QB but his track record is that he can't be the focal point of an offense and expect to win against good teams. When Grossman is good, he can do that.

If the Bears goal was to make the playoffs, Griese might be the better bet. In order for them to win it all, they need to start Grossman and hope for three good performances at the right time.

 

[EugeneChung]

The Bears are good enough to win the Super Bowl, but they aren't good enough to do it with the Quarterback just managing the game which is what they'd want the Griese to do. The Defense is good, but not '85 Bears good, especially without Brown. The running game is decent, but not good enough to carry the load on it's own. Griese might be the more savvy QB but his track record is that he can't be the focal point of an offense and expect to win against good teams. When Grossman is good, he can do that.If the Bears goal was to make the playoffs, Griese might be the better bet. In order for them to win it all, they need to start Grossman and hope for three good performances at the right time.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

 

[EugeneChung]

What a wonderful contribution. Don't get caught sleeping.

 

[flapgreen]

Just wanted to put it out there...Grossman seemed way off on his throws today and he wasn't impressive against the Jets either (the only two games I've seen live). Will Lovie make the change? Would you? I would - solid corps of receivers, a productive to excellent running game, and a great defense are being wasted by errant throws, forcing throws into double coverage, and mismanagement during pressure games. If the Bears go anywhere, Griese will be the guy who takes them there.

No, I would 100 percent NOT make the switch to Griese. I dont know if you any of you followed Griese throughout his career, but he hasn't been a QB who takes care of the football all that well either. Although he would do a much better job than Grossman of creating less turnovers, his production at the QB position wouldnt even come close to what Rex has done this year. This should be a no brainer for Lovie. Keep Rex in there if you have any aspirations of making it to the Super Bowl. Also, if not for a ridiculous catch by Asantae Samuel, we would not be hearing any of these critics. The Bears played a great game, and lost to arguably one of the best teams in the NFL by 4 points in their house. Do you guys really feel that Griese can lead this team like Rex has? Not a shot in the world. STAY WITH REX

Some people are acting Griese is some great qb just waiting to come in and lead the Bears to victory. I'll admit I like having Griese on the bench in case there's an injury but no Bears fan in their right mind wants Rex on the bench. He's young and is gonna make some mistakes. I know he's made more than most would like but it happens. If we bench Rex now, we're basically saying it's over and he's not our qb of teh future. Does anyone really think the Bears should go ahead and make that type of decision this soon, especially after waiting all of this time for Rex to get healthy? Not me. I'm not guaranteeing he's the next great one but he has shown some flashes of brilliance. No way do the Bears bench this guy. Not gonna happen.

 

[mlball77]

I don't feel that Grossman will be benched either. He is their guy. But if I'm speaking honestly, I feel he very much needs to be reined in and forced to throw more passes into the flat. Going deep all of the time is NOT what CHI needs and is the cause of the turnover issues.

With a solid running game, all Rex needs to do is sustain long drives and limit TO's; which can be done with at least a little dinking and dunking (Brady is awesome at that, and he's had a little success). I like the fact that Rex isn't afraid to air it out a few times a game, but he shouldn't be doing it a few times per drive.

I think the general misconception here is that the Bears need a QB to lead them deep into the playoffs or to a Superbowl. I think if you watch CHI play you quickly realize that the defense and running game are what is going to get them there, they just need a QB to manage the game and keep it in check; largely by minimizing turnovers.

Maybe such QB play isn't popular and will draw comparisons to Trent Dilfer. I guess the QB needs to be the star for some. Me personally, I don't care if the QB is the focal point of the team or the offense, I'm more concerned with winning. Currently the Bears have the defense and the running game to carry the team if they can get even decent QB play. If Griese gives them more consistent play and minimizes the odds for turnovers, I'd like to see him play. I don't know if he's that guy, but currently Rex is not. If Rex and Turner can work out whatever issue Rex has that makes him go deep every play, I think Rex can be solid, but until that happens I think I'll be pulling for Griese to play, even though I realize it won't happen.

 

[PsychoMan]

I don't feel that Grossman will be benched either. He is their guy. But if I'm speaking honestly, I feel he very much needs to be reined in and forced to throw more passes into the flat. Going deep all of the time is NOT what CHI needs and is the cause of the turnover issues.

While I agree with this statement, Rex made a terrible pass into the flat and completely missed an open running back near the beginning of the game. I got up and threw my football at the wall when this happened. His accuracy seems way off and I'm beginning to lose my mind watching this guy.

 

[RBM]

Rex is good. Hes just young and looks for the home run too much. With maturity he will learn to be smarter with the ball. Hope it happens in the next few weeks

 

[mlball77]

I don't feel that Grossman will be benched either. He is their guy. But if I'm speaking honestly, I feel he very much needs to be reined in and forced to throw more passes into the flat. Going deep all of the time is NOT what CHI needs and is the cause of the turnover issues.

While I agree with this statement, Rex made a terrible pass into the flat and completely missed an open running back near the beginning of the game. I got up and threw my football at the wall when this happened. His accuracy seems way off and I'm beginning to lose my mind watching this guy.

Agreed.This is something he needs to work on. If he can't get better at some of the short passes, I don't think he'll be very successful at the NFL level. I'm not writing him off yet on passes into the flat though, but its an area he needs to improve in, for both his personal success and for the team.

 

[Banger]

No they should not bench him but Rex also has to show the ability to learn from his mistakes. He can't continually go for the bomb like he did earlier in the season. Early in the year teams had no film on Grossman and the Bears offense but after seeing them air it out the 1st few games defenses have definitely looked to shut that down and make him beat him by driving it up the field. He continually tries for the big bombs which is resulting sacks/fumbles/picks against better defenses. He's got to learn to take the underneath/short stuff but is either too impatient or just too stubborn to realize that he must change.

Over the last 6 games he's had 15 turnovers. 2 1/2 turnovers a game is not going to cut it in the playoffs.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

What a wonderful contribution. Don't get caught sleeping.

Let explain more fully.I thought you are fishing for reactions by posting such an inane thread. Now I will give you one.Obviously, IMO Rex isn't going to be benched anytime soon, nor should he. I think he just played in his 14th or 15th game. As the franchises #1 pick just a few years ago, do YOU really think he is about to or even should be benched? To me he is playing pretty well for what is essentially his rookie season.I was giving you the benefit of the doubt before that you were fishing for reactions rather than actually being a moron for posting this thread. Now I realize I was wrong.

 

[guderian]

The Bears will have to win 3 playoff games to win the Superbowl. It seems like every 3 games the kid has 3+ turnovers. When they are playing against playoff teams that will cost them the game. I don't think that the Bears should switch, but at the same time if I'm a Bears fans I wouldn't like the idea of counting on Grossman for that many games in a row against good teams without turning the ball over.

Also, I keep hearing the excuse that he's 'young and needs to learn'. We aren't making the same excuses for other QBs like Rivers or Palmer who have roughly the same experience in the NFL.

 

[Jagerbomber]

No they should not bench him but Rex also has to show the ability to learn from his mistakes. He can't continually go for the bomb like he did earlier in the season. Early in the year teams had no film on Grossman and the Bears offense but after seeing them air it out the 1st few games defenses have definitely looked to shut that down and make him beat him by driving it up the field. He continually tries for the big bombs which is resulting sacks/fumbles/picks against better defenses. He's got to learn to take the underneath/short stuff but is either too impatient or just too stubborn to realize that he must change.

Over the last 6 games he's had 15 turnovers. 2 1/2 turnovers a game is not going to cut it in the playoffs.

Agreed 100%. The problem with Grossman is that he's become very predictable. Just put pressure on him and watch the errors flow. This is something that needs to be addressed ASAP. I know the team is trying to be protective of him and claiming that they need to do a better job protecting him. But honestly, Grossman needs to do an even better job.I don't care for the Bears one way or the other, but it's so lame to watch Grossman just throw it away like that. If this is the best the NFC has to offer...yikes. At this point I think the Cowboys are the hottest team in the conference (yea, it hurt to type this)

 

[twistd]

Rex Grossman won't be benched until it's determined that he is not the franchise's QB of the future. That won't happen this year.

I think that you are probably right. That means that the Bears won't be winning the Super Bowl this year. Grossman is incapable of playing three games in a row without a meltdown. So the Bears will lose a game in the playoffs that they could have won because Grossman throws three interceptions and fumbles once.

 

[twistd]

I said it before in the other thread. If you bench Grossman, you still only have Brian Griese.Sure maybe he can play the Trent Dilfer role and not make the big mistake, but he's far from a savior.

Not giving the ball to the other team makes him the savior. The Bears need to learn something from the Ravens. McNair isn't going to go out and win games all by himself. But he also isn't going to turn the ball over regularly. Play to your strengths. Let you D do it's job and lean on your running game. That is what they need.

 

[twistd]

Just wanted to put it out there...Grossman seemed way off on his throws today and he wasn't impressive against the Jets either (the only two games I've seen live). Will Lovie make the change? Would you? I would - solid corps of receivers, a productive to excellent running game, and a great defense are being wasted by errant throws, forcing throws into double coverage, and mismanagement during pressure games. If the Bears go anywhere, Griese will be the guy who takes them there.

No, I would 100 percent NOT make the switch to Griese. I dont know if you any of you followed Griese throughout his career, but he hasn't been a QB who takes care of the football all that well either. Although he would do a much better job than Grossman of creating less turnovers, his production at the QB position wouldnt even come close to what Rex has done this year. This should be a no brainer for Lovie. Keep Rex in there if you have any aspirations of making it to the Super Bowl. Also, if not for a ridiculous catch by Asantae Samuel, we would not be hearing any of these critics. The Bears played a great game, and lost to arguably one of the best teams in the NFL by 4 points in their house. Do you guys really feel that Griese can lead this team like Rex has? Not a shot in the world. STAY WITH REX

Some people are acting Griese is some great qb just waiting to come in and lead the Bears to victory. I'll admit I like having Griese on the bench in case there's an injury but no Bears fan in their right mind wants Rex on the bench. He's young and is gonna make some mistakes. I know he's made more than most would like but it happens. If we bench Rex now, we're basically saying it's over and he's not our qb of teh future. Does anyone really think the Bears should go ahead and make that type of decision this soon, especially after waiting all of this time for Rex to get healthy? Not me. I'm not guaranteeing he's the next great one but he has shown some flashes of brilliance. No way do the Bears bench this guy. Not gonna happen.

Grossman may or may not be the QB of the future, but the Bears have an opportunity now to win the Super Bowl. Leaving Grossman in as your starter is playing for the future and not for the present. There is no way in the world that Grossman can play three good games in a row to win a Super Bowl. Grossman has lost two out of the last six games and desparatley tried to lose the AZ game. You are sacrificing an opportunity now to win a Super Bowl in hopes that Grossman will get better. You don't get many of these opportunities and you have to make the most of them when you have them. Play the player who gives you the best chance to win this year, and worry about next year then.