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[shader]

We're starting a new dynasty league with an exciting twist, the playoffs occur during the actual NFL playoffs.

So far the following have either accepted invitations or showed major interest:

1)Fear & Loathing

2)Benm3218

3)Shader

4)Neo

5)Fubar

6)gorf

7)BradtheAg

8)kremenull

9)ChuckLiddell

10)Toads

11)mcintyre1

12)Magnus_CA

Of these, a few have completely accepted the invitation, and 1 or 2 have just shown interest. I do have one person on backup that has expressed interest. We need to hash out the details, find out who is for sure on-board and get the league going. So far here is what we have discussed regarding rules:

1. No IDP

2. Non-PPR is preferred..however if the vast majority want it, at most .5 per reception.

3. Remember the playoffs are in the actual NFL playoffs. Fear & Loathing has explained this a bit in the dynasty thread, and I'm sure can answer any questions you have regarding the exact nature of this.

4. Rosters will be 1QB, and at least 6 rb's/wr's...though we haven't decided exactly. However I prefer 2 RB's, 2 WR's and 2 flex.

5. Bench size is TBD

6. Everyone has wondered about the pay. We can either do small fees or just go for bragging rights. What worries me about bragging rights is that this league will need to involve alot of trading and thus require active owners, and sometimes fees keep leagues active. That being said, if we get enough committment, I am fine with just playing for FBguys bragging rights.

7. The website used is TBD.

8. The draft type is TBD.

Please ask questions if you have questions to ask, and get this show on the road!

 

[ChuckLiddell]

I will absolutely play and play hard for bragging rights, but my personal preference would be to have at least a small entry fee, and small fees for transactions.

$50 entry and $3 per transaction?

Just a suggestion. Regardless, I am in and will not complain.

 

[LaRon Landry's Laundry]

I might be interested, can you expand on the playoffs? A simple playoff rules layout just to get the idea of what you're planning instead of going back and forth on PM.

 

[kremenull]

I see no requirement to start a TE. I never understand this for fantasy, especially for dynasty, the TE is an offensive skill position, being increasingly more valuable each year with elite young talent. To have to match them up with WRs is not OK, and I believe the TE should be included as a required starting position, not simply as an option for the flex positions.

Small fees are fine with me, but for an experimental type structure like this, I'd prefer no more than $50 annual and a very small transaction fee ($2 or less).

I prefer PPR but it doesn't matter either way to me......

Just my

 

[FUBAR]

1. No IDP - OK, makes it simpler

2. Non-PPR is preferred..however if the vast majority want it, at most .5 per reception. I prefer PPR, at least for TEs and WRs, I like scoring of .5 for RB, 1 for WR, 1.5 for TE but am flexible of course

3. Remember the playoffs are in the actual NFL playoffs. Fear & Loathing has explained this a bit in the dynasty thread, and I'm sure can answer any questions you have regarding the exact nature of this.

4. Rosters will be 1QB, and at least 6 rb's/wr's...though we haven't decided exactly. However I prefer 2 RB's, 2 WR's and 2 flex. Recommend 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR flex, 2 WR/TE flex

5. Bench size is TBD I like leagues where the bench = starters, no more than 1.5X

6. Everyone has wondered about the pay. We can either do small fees or just go for bragging rights. What worries me about bragging rights is that this league will need to involve alot of trading and thus require active owners, and sometimes fees keep leagues active. That being said, if we get enough committment, I am fine with just playing for FBguys bragging rights.It's FBG, bragging rights mean more

7. The website used is TBD. Anyone against Yahoo?

8. The draft type is TBD. I'm open to anything, but fast live has proven challenging to organize

Please ask questions if you have questions to ask, and get this show on the road!

Redraft or dynasty? Keeper? Keeper would be cool, but redraft makes sense too.

 

[shader]

I see no requirement to start a TE. I never understand this for fantasy, especially for dynasty, the TE is an offensive skill position, being increasingly more valuable each year with elite young talent. To have to match them up with WRs is not OK, and I believe the TE should be included as a required starting position, not simpl as an option for the flex positions. Small fees are fine with me, but for an experimental type structure like this, I'd prefer no more than $50 annual and a very small transaction fee ($2 or less). I prefer PPR but it doesn't matter either way to me...... Just my

No we would of course start a TE, K and defense. I kind of thought that was obvious. Never knew there were leagues that didn't do it!

 

[shader]

1. No IDP - OK, makes it simpler

2. Non-PPR is preferred..however if the vast majority want it, at most .5 per reception. I prefer PPR, at least for TEs and WRs, I like scoring of .5 for RB, 1 for WR, 1.5 for TE but am flexible of course

3. Remember the playoffs are in the actual NFL playoffs. Fear & Loathing has explained this a bit in the dynasty thread, and I'm sure can answer any questions you have regarding the exact nature of this.

4. Rosters will be 1QB, and at least 6 rb's/wr's...though we haven't decided exactly. However I prefer 2 RB's, 2 WR's and 2 flex. Recommend 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR flex, 2 WR/TE flex

5. Bench size is TBD I like leagues where the bench = starters, no more than 1.5X

6. Everyone has wondered about the pay. We can either do small fees or just go for bragging rights. What worries me about bragging rights is that this league will need to involve alot of trading and thus require active owners, and sometimes fees keep leagues active. That being said, if we get enough committment, I am fine with just playing for FBguys bragging rights.It's FBG, bragging rights mean more

7. The website used is TBD. Anyone against Yahoo?

8. The draft type is TBD. I'm open to anything, but fast live has proven challenging to organize

Please ask questions if you have questions to ask, and get this show on the road!

Redraft or dynasty? Keeper? Keeper would be cool, but redraft makes sense too.

Dynasty

 

[FUBAR]

No we would of course start a TE, K and defense. I kind of thought that was obvious. Never knew there were leagues that didn't do it!

Would Defense include ST? I always prefer to use the special teams scoring on the individual player, but that's probably because I'm in IDP leagues except for the mock drafts here.

 

[FUBAR]

Dynasty

In that case, I'm a little more strongly towards free / bragging rights. We'll be active anyway and if a team needs to drop out it's often easier to get a new person in to take over a team when the league is free. Looking at your list of people, are you worried about anyone not being active?

 

[shader]

Guys I'm really not a big fan of transaction fees at all.

As for the entrance fee, if everyone is for it, I'd go with it, but I did have a few that mentioned that they weren't sure about a fee...so hopefully we'll decide that pretty soon..

 

[Fear & Loathing]

1. No IDP

2. Non-PPR is preferred..however if the vast majority want it, at most .5 per reception. I like .5 per reception. A whole point is too much.

3. Remember the playoffs are in the actual NFL playoffs. Fear & Loathing has explained this a bit in the dynasty thread, and I'm sure can answer any questions you have regarding the exact nature of this. Will be happy to answer any questions and can write up a guideline/rules when I get some free time.

4. Rosters will be 1QB, and at least 6 rb's/wr's...though we haven't decided exactly. However I prefer 2 RB's, 2 WR's and 2 flex. I like 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE or 2 RBs, 3 WR/TE, 1 flex.

5. Bench size is TBD I like rosters in the 21-25 area.

6. Everyone has wondered about the pay. We can either do small fees or just go for bragging rights. What worries me about bragging rights is that this league will need to involve alot of trading and thus require active owners, and sometimes fees keep leagues active. That being said, if we get enough committment, I am fine with just playing for FBguys bragging rights. I'm totally against transaction fees but open-minded on league fee vs. bragging rights.

7. The website used is TBD. I like myfantasyleague.com, but it's not a big deal.

8. The draft type is TBD. Would assume we can just do it live through the website.

Please ask questions if you have questions to ask, and get this show on the road!

Oh, and no using my blog rankings as a cheat sheet!

 

[LaRon Landry's Laundry]

1. No IDP

2. Non-PPR is preferred..however if the vast majority want it, at most .5 per reception. I like .5 per reception. A whole point is too much.

3. Remember the playoffs are in the actual NFL playoffs. Fear & Loathing has explained this a bit in the dynasty thread, and I'm sure can answer any questions you have regarding the exact nature of this. Will be happy to answer any questions and can write up a guideline/rules when I get some free time.

4. Rosters will be 1QB, and at least 6 rb's/wr's...though we haven't decided exactly. However I prefer 2 RB's, 2 WR's and 2 flex. I like 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE or 2 RBs, 3 WR/TE, 1 flex.

5. Bench size is TBD I like rosters in the 21-25 area.

6. Everyone has wondered about the pay. We can either do small fees or just go for bragging rights. What worries me about bragging rights is that this league will need to involve alot of trading and thus require active owners, and sometimes fees keep leagues active. That being said, if we get enough committment, I am fine with just playing for FBguys bragging rights. I'm totally against transaction fees but open-minded on league fee vs. bragging rights.

7. The website used is TBD. I like myfantasyleague.com, but it's not a big deal.

8. The draft type is TBD. Would assume we can just do it live through the website.

Please ask questions if you have questions to ask, and get this show on the road!

Oh, and no using my blog rankings as a cheat sheet!

How would the playoffs work? How long is the regular season, is any player not in the real playoffs SOL?

 

[FUBAR]

3. Remember the playoffs are in the actual NFL playoffs. Fear & Loathing has explained this a bit in the dynasty thread, and I'm sure can answer any questions you have regarding the exact nature of this. Will be happy to answer any questions and can write up a guideline/rules when I get some free time.

oh, and when would the trade deadline be? Most of my leagues end trading a couple weeks before the playoffs, would that be the case here?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

3. Remember the playoffs are in the actual NFL playoffs. Fear & Loathing has explained this a bit in the dynasty thread, and I'm sure can answer any questions you have regarding the exact nature of this. Will be happy to answer any questions and can write up a guideline/rules when I get some free time.

oh, and when would the trade deadline be? Most of my leagues end trading a couple weeks before the playoffs, would that be the case here?

No, that's when the trading really ramps up. Trade deadline would probably be an hour before the start of the first playoff game. No trading allowed during the playoffs.

 

[shader]

3. Remember the playoffs are in the actual NFL playoffs. Fear & Loathing has explained this a bit in the dynasty thread, and I'm sure can answer any questions you have regarding the exact nature of this. Will be happy to answer any questions and can write up a guideline/rules when I get some free time.

oh, and when would the trade deadline be? Most of my leagues end trading a couple weeks before the playoffs, would that be the case here?

No, that's when the trading really ramps up. Trade deadline would probably be an hour before the start of the first playoff game. No trading allowed during the playoffs.

What website supports this format well?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

How would the playoffs work? How long is the regular season, is any player not in the real playoffs SOL?

Top 6 teams through the regular season go to the playoffs. Bottom 6 teams watch from the sidelines.Home field advantage would go something like this: 1st place in regular season = +50 pts, 2nd place = +40 pts, 3rd place = +30 pts, 4th place = +20 pts, 5th place = +10 pts, 6 place = 0 pts.Your starting lineup must consist only of players on teams that are in the NFL playoffs. Once your player loses a playoff game, you lose that position for the remainder of the playoffs. You don't have to start a full lineup if you want to leave a position empty due to a first-round bye.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

3. Remember the playoffs are in the actual NFL playoffs. Fear & Loathing has explained this a bit in the dynasty thread, and I'm sure can answer any questions you have regarding the exact nature of this. Will be happy to answer any questions and can write up a guideline/rules when I get some free time.

oh, and when would the trade deadline be? Most of my leagues end trading a couple weeks before the playoffs, would that be the case here?

No, that's when the trading really ramps up. Trade deadline would probably be an hour before the start of the first playoff game. No trading allowed during the playoffs.

What website supports this format well?

My main league has always used myfantasyleague.com. I was in a similar league that used cbssportsline, and that seemed to work fine too. I've never tried any other site for this format. With MFL, we always set up a new site after the season specifically for the playoffs. IIRC, MFL is free during the NFL playoffs.

 

[LaRon Landry's Laundry]

How would the playoffs work? How long is the regular season, is any player not in the real playoffs SOL?

Top 6 teams through the regular season go to the playoffs. Bottom 6 teams watch from the sidelines.Home field advantage would go something like this: 1st place in regular season = +50 pts, 2nd place = +40 pts, 3rd place = +30 pts, 4th place = +20 pts, 5th place = +10 pts, 6 place = 0 pts.Your starting lineup must consist only of players on teams that are in the NFL playoffs. Once your player loses a playoff game, you lose that position for the remainder of the playoffs. You don't have to start a full lineup if you want to leave a position empty due to a first-round bye.

So once the real and fantasy playoffs start, you set one lineup for the entire duration?

 

[shader]

I like fast live drafts....however getting 12 people together has always been hard. I personally would hate for something important at work or home to come up and cause me to miss the live draft. The first draft of a dynasty is quite obviously extremely important and I'd hate for a large portion of the league to miss the draft..

Is there anyone that would be against a slow live draft?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

So once the real and fantasy playoffs start, you set one lineup for the entire duration?

No, you can change your lineup every week if you have enough options on your roster. For example, here's what I did last year: http://football18.myfantasyleague.com/2008...=42850&W=18

Playoffs Week 1

QB - Warner

RB - B.Westbrook

WR - Ma.Clayton

WR - L.Fitzgerald

TE - B.Celek

TE - T.Heap

K - Rackers

D - Eagles

(We're allowed to use a 1 RB, 4 WR shotgun formation and WR/TE are interchangeable)

Playoffs Week 2

QB - Warner

RB - Chris Johnson

RB - B.Westbrook

WR - L.Fitzgerald

WR - Ma.Clayton

WR - H.Ward

K - J.Carney

D - Panthers

Playoffs Week 3

QB - Warner

RB - B.Westbrook

WR - L.Fitzgerald

WR - H.Ward

TE - T.Heap

Playoffs Week 4

QB - Warner

WR - L.Fitzgerald

WR - H.Ward

Now, I had more eligible players than most owners, so I was able to do more weekly changes. Most years, we have one or two owners who have just enough players to field a full lineup.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I like fast live drafts....however getting 12 people together has always been hard. I personally would hate for something important at work or home to come up and cause me to miss the live draft. The first draft of a dynasty is quite obviously extremely important and I'd hate for a large portion of the league to miss the draft..

Is there anyone that would be against a slow live draft?

That's how we do ours. There's no time limit on picks, and the draft usually takes about 3 or 4 days to finish. If someone is at work, or softball, or golf, or family function, they usually get a text or phone call telling them they're on the clock. A little peer pressure never hurts.

 

[shader]

I like fast live drafts....however getting 12 people together has always been hard. I personally would hate for something important at work or home to come up and cause me to miss the live draft. The first draft of a dynasty is quite obviously extremely important and I'd hate for a large portion of the league to miss the draft..

Is there anyone that would be against a slow live draft?

That's how we do ours. There's no time limit on picks, and the draft usually takes about 3 or 4 days to finish. If someone is at work, or softball, or golf, or family function, they usually get a text or phone call telling them they're on the clock. A little peer pressure never hurts.

This would be my preferred option

 

[Toads]

I like fast live drafts....however getting 12 people together has always been hard. I personally would hate for something important at work or home to come up and cause me to miss the live draft. The first draft of a dynasty is quite obviously extremely important and I'd hate for a large portion of the league to miss the draft..

Is there anyone that would be against a slow live draft?

We've enough time to do a slow draft.....25 rounds would be the same roster size as the BZ Leagues.....so, a starter mix that matches that League starter formula would make sense. Nine starters: (1-QB, RB, TE, PK, DEF; and 2-WR; with 2 ea. flex for the RB, WR, TE combo). BZ Leagues are PPR Leagues. I'm not at all opposed to the .5, 1, 1.5 PPR distribution as I abhore the RB-RB-RB, let's draft another RB, League deal. It's far more challenging to have PPR included.

I've read through the above.

It sounds a bit complicated but I've learned to not let that stand in the way of much of anything.

Couple of Q's that I can think of:

1) Has anybody played in this format or is it an imagination at this point?

2) Is there enough time to hammer out a digestible set of guidelines/rules? If you are counting on "free time" to do this Monster, a draft set of rules that have been used would make for a good idea.

3) Just using concepts, it appears that it's set up to be another RB-RB-RB League with one "sticker": RB's on playoff teams are worth their weight in Silver; therefore

4) Making it a PPR related league lessens the RB emphasis and makes the mix of players who have playoff value a lot broader....so, I'd suggest that be examined. Having RB's with value as the only playoff focus makes for a limited venue. It also gives the guys with any experience in this format a bit of an advantage.

HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE points have always been an utter fiasco in every League I've encountered them in so I'd be in for more information on that. As I saw it presented, points would accrue to the first six place finishers.....so, that means that the playoff format would have to be a total point affair......right?

And, finally: it's been years since I was in a League that was hosted anywhere other than at MFL. I wouldn't know how to do anything in another format.

 

[mcintyre1]

My 2c I guess:

Everything seems fine to me except for the fees that people have proposed so far. Basically, I have no money for that right now in my life (recent college grab still struggling to find a job), so my obvious preference is bragging rights only. Obviously, if it comes down to me vs. the majority, I'll just step aside and let someone else join up.

 

[mcintyre1]

My preference would be PPR as well, but I'm not gung-ho either way.

 

[Toads]

No we would of course start a TE, K and defense. I kind of thought that was obvious. Never knew there were leagues that didn't do it!

Would Defense include ST? I always prefer to use the special teams scoring on the individual player, but that's probably because I'm in IDP leagues except for the mock drafts here.

I'm always in favor of diversity:1) 0.10 pts/Punt return

2) 0.050 pts/KO return, plus

3) the six pack for TD's.

Makes for an interesting add on.

 

[shader]

I like fast live drafts....however getting 12 people together has always been hard. I personally would hate for something important at work or home to come up and cause me to miss the live draft. The first draft of a dynasty is quite obviously extremely important and I'd hate for a large portion of the league to miss the draft..

Is there anyone that would be against a slow live draft?

We've enough time to do a slow draft.....25 rounds would be the same roster size as the BZ Leagues.....so, a starter mix that matches that League starter formula would make sense. Nine starters: (1-QB, RB, TE, PK, DEF; and 2-WR; with 2 ea. flex for the RB, WR, TE combo). BZ Leagues are PPR Leagues. I'm not at all opposed to the .5, 1, 1.5 PPR distribution as I abhore the RB-RB-RB, let's draft another RB, League deal. It's far more challenging to have PPR included.

I've read through the above.

It sounds a bit complicated but I've learned to not let that stand in the way of much of anything.

Couple of Q's that I can think of:

1) Has anybody played in this format or is it an imagination at this point?

2) Is there enough time to hammer out a digestible set of guidelines/rules? If you are counting on "free time" to do this Monster, a draft set of rules that have been used would make for a good idea.

3) Just using concepts, it appears that it's set up to be another RB-RB-RB League with one "sticker": RB's on playoff teams are worth their weight in Silver; therefore

4) Making it a PPR related league lessens the RB emphasis and makes the mix of players who have playoff value a lot broader....so, I'd suggest that be examined. Having RB's with value as the only playoff focus makes for a limited venue. It also gives the guys with any experience in this format a bit of an advantage.

HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE points have always been an utter fiasco in every League I've encountered them in so I'd be in for more information on that. As I saw it presented, points would accrue to the first six place finishers.....so, that means that the playoff format would have to be a total point affair......right?

And, finally: it's been years since I was in a League that was hosted anywhere other than at MFL. I wouldn't know how to do anything in another format.

Fear & Loathing has done this for a number of years, so I do agree with your point that we should kind of keep the rules very similar to what he has used and what has worked for him. If we find that we want to make slight adjustments, we can perhaps do that next off-season.I do prefer having larger rosters (6 rb/wr total and 1 TE), but am very flexible to whatever the league chooses.

 

[Neo]

Hey guys, I'm pretty much open to anything....I will say here are my preferences:

PPR / Non PPR - I wouldn't mind a non ppr, everything seems to have gone ppr and all my leagues at this point are. Wouldn't mind going to an old school method of things. With that said, I'm game for whatever the majority chooses.

I'm up for putting money in....some money on top of bragging rights never hurt.

F&L has played in this type of league before, I say we use his judgment with the scoring rules and such and tweak them as we see fit in the future. I'm not into the return points for kick offs and punt returns...but if others want it, I'll go along with it.

Large rosters.

I'm all for a draft with owners getting 12 hour time limits, but never using that full time. I think most people are pretty good with getting picks in fairly quickly.

Blind bidding for waiver system....with no actual money for transaction fees.

 

[gorf]

1. No IDP -- good

2. Non-PPR is preferred..however if the vast majority want it, at most .5 per reception. -- i prefer PPR, but can be flexible of course. maybe .5 for RB, 1 for WR, 1.5 for TE? or 1 for WR/TE?

3. Remember the playoffs are in the actual NFL playoffs. Fear & Loathing has explained this a bit in the dynasty thread, and I'm sure can answer any questions you have regarding the exact nature of this.

4. Rosters will be 1QB, and at least 6 rb's/wr's...though we haven't decided exactly. However I prefer 2 RB's, 2 WR's and 2 flex. -- maybe 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 flex?

5. Bench size is TBD -- my suggestion would be a roster size between 25 and 30

6. Everyone has wondered about the pay. We can either do small fees or just go for bragging rights. What worries me about bragging rights is that this league will need to involve alot of trading and thus require active owners, and sometimes fees keep leagues active. That being said, if we get enough committment, I am fine with just playing for FBguys bragging rights. -- i prefer just bragging rights

7. The website used is TBD. -- mfl is the best in my experience, but i'm open to other sites, too...

8. The draft type is TBD. -- slow draft is fine

Please ask questions if you have questions to ask, and get this show on the road!

my thoughts...

 

[kremenull]

One other thing. I noted that F&L listed only 8 starters in his lineup for the other similarly structured league. I find it very frustrating, and not rewarding for keen owners, to play with any less than 10 starters in the lineup (1QB, 7 RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1DEF/ST). With only 8 or 9 starters, it's almost impossible to differentiate teams from one another. Anybody can pull 8 high-quality starters out of a draft, the real challenge and artistry is being able to pick out those last 2 starting players in your lineup who are difference-makers along with quality reserves to step in when needed, thus differentiating the very good teams from middle of the road and lesser teams. I simply hate when I look at my bench roster when I'm in those 2 starting RBs, 2 starting WRs type leagues and see so many points wasting away on my bench on a regular basis. It simply becomes a guessing game that I have to play weekly to figure out who to start/bench, and this invariably penalizes the owners who draft extremely well.

So for the record, I'm in but I strongly recommend to have 10 starters in the weekly lineups as opposed to 8 or 9. If its set to 8 or 9, then I will definitely only play for free.

 

[shader]

One other thing. I noted that F&L listed only 8 starters in his lineup for the other similarly structured league. I find it very frustrating, and not rewarding for keen owners, to play with any less than 10 starters in the lineup (1QB, 7 RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1DEF/ST). With only 8 or 9 starters, it's almost impossible to differentiate teams from one another. Anybody can pull 8 high-quality starters out of a draft, the real challenge and artistry is being able to pick out those last 2 starting players in your lineup who are difference-makers along with quality reserves to step in when needed, thus differentiating the very good teams from middle of the road and lesser teams. I simply hate when I look at my bench roster when I'm in those 2 starting RBs, 2 starting WRs type leagues and see so many points wasting away on my bench on a regular basis. It simply becomes a guessing game that I have to play weekly to figure out who to start/bench, and this invariably penalizes the owners who draft extremely well. So for the record, I'm in but I strongly recommend to have 10 starters in the weekly lineups as opposed to 8 or 9. If its set to 8 or 9, then I will definitely only play for free.

I agree with this. Really the only difference in what you posted and what F&L posted is just one starter. He proposed 5 rb/wr and you are proposing 6 plus a tight end.I do like having 6 rb's/wr's and 1 te.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

I am open to any format, with any roster size, any lineup requirements, and for any (or no) monetary wager.

I will be on vacation through Monday the 17th, so my participation through then will be limited. I can start a slow draft as early as Tuesday the 18th.

We used a third round reversal draft to start a dynasty league, and I felt it was a much more equitable way to draft. Just throwing it out there. Dont feel strongly about it.

 

[geoff8695]

2009 Anarchy League 4

Shader why are you leading the charge for a new long term commitment, when meanwhile you haven't even checked into Anarchy 4 since Friday, and 3 of your last 4 picks have been autodrafted by MFL?

 

[benm3218]

2009 Anarchy League 4

Shader why are you leading the charge for a new long term commitment, when meanwhile you haven't even checked into Anarchy 4 since Friday, and 3 of your last 4 picks have been autodrafted by MFL?

Maybe he's looking for something a little more substantial than a weird league where you can't set your lineup or do anything other than draft before the season. BORING.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

One other thing. I noted that F&L listed only 8 starters in his lineup for the other similarly structured league. I find it very frustrating, and not rewarding for keen owners, to play with any less than 10 starters in the lineup (1QB, 7 RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1DEF/ST). With only 8 or 9 starters, it's almost impossible to differentiate teams from one another. Anybody can pull 8 high-quality starters out of a draft, the real challenge and artistry is being able to pick out those last 2 starting players in your lineup who are difference-makers along with quality reserves to step in when needed, thus differentiating the very good teams from middle of the road and lesser teams. I simply hate when I look at my bench roster when I'm in those 2 starting RBs, 2 starting WRs type leagues and see so many points wasting away on my bench on a regular basis. It simply becomes a guessing game that I have to play weekly to figure out who to start/bench, and this invariably penalizes the owners who draft extremely well. So for the record, I'm in but I strongly recommend to have 10 starters in the weekly lineups as opposed to 8 or 9. If its set to 8 or 9, then I will definitely only play for free.

I haven't played in a start-10 league, but I'm open-minded. That wouldn't bother me.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Let's do this unless there are major objections ... in which case, let us know.

- 0.5 PPR

- 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex, 1 TE? This is the one point where we're still up in the air. I'm guessing this might take a minute to figure out. My league gives TE's extra points as an incentive to use them as WRs, and it works very well. Just a thought. If we arranged scoring like that, we could do 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 flex.

- start 10, roster = 25

- Pay = $50, at the very least we can cover the website. I'm very sensitive to the point raised earlier about high fees ... or any fees. I wouldn't have any problem with straight bragging rights, but it probably screws the regular season champ just a tad.

- Let's use MFL unless someone is ambitious enough to figure out that a free site can host it just as well

- Slow draft with peer pressure

 

[FUBAR]

Let's do this unless there are major objections ... in which case, let us know.- 0.5 PPR- 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex, 1 TE? This is the one point where we're still up in the air. I'm guessing this might take a minute to figure out. My league gives TE's extra points as an incentive to use them as WRs, and it works very well. Just a thought. If we arranged scoring like that, we could do 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 flex.- start 10, roster = 25- Pay = $50, at the very least we can cover the website. I'm very sensitive to the point raised earlier about high fees ... or any fees. I wouldn't have any problem with straight bragging rights, but it probably screws the regular season champ just a tad.- Let's use MFL unless someone is ambitious enough to figure out that a free site can host it just as well- Slow draft with peer pressure

just to throw it out there, why not auction?

 

[shader]

Let's do this unless there are major objections ... in which case, let us know.- 0.5 PPR- 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex, 1 TE? This is the one point where we're still up in the air. I'm guessing this might take a minute to figure out. My league gives TE's extra points as an incentive to use them as WRs, and it works very well. Just a thought. If we arranged scoring like that, we could do 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 flex.- start 10, roster = 25- Pay = $50, at the very least we can cover the website. I'm very sensitive to the point raised earlier about high fees ... or any fees. I wouldn't have any problem with straight bragging rights, but it probably screws the regular season champ just a tad.- Let's use MFL unless someone is ambitious enough to figure out that a free site can host it just as well- Slow draft with peer pressure

Ok, I'm cool with start ten (1QB, K, DEF, 7 offensive players in some combo)Now as to the fees, there are two people so far that have said that they can't do fees. I do have a small waiting list, so we could perhaps still do fees...but i'm hoping everyone will weigh in today and help us figure out whether this is possible or not.MFL is cool with me.

 

[benm3218]

I could do a fee, but I would be strongly against a transaction fee. (my nickname is "waiver wire Ben" so that might have something to do with it).

But, I think if you have a bad team that needs to waiver wire pickup and trade alot you want to encourage that and not discourage that.

 

[Toads]

Let's do this unless there are major objections ... in which case, let us know.

- 0.5 PPR

- 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex, 1 TE? This is the one point where we're still up in the air. I'm guessing this might take a minute to figure out. My league gives TE's extra points as an incentive to use them as WRs, and it works very well. Just a thought. If we arranged scoring like that, we could do 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 flex.

- start 10, roster = 25

- Pay = $50, at the very least we can cover the website. I'm very sensitive to the point raised earlier about high fees ... or any fees. I wouldn't have any problem with straight bragging rights, but it probably screws the regular season champ just a tad.

- Let's use MFL unless someone is ambitious enough to figure out that a free site can host it just as well

- Slow draft with peer pressure

This is a long thread....but, I believe that there's been sentiment for the 1-RB + 4-WR option (i.e., 1-RB, 2-WR + 2-Flex). I think that you even propossed it. To set two RB's in stone is different than setting 1-RB in stone and flexing the two remaining starters. You still get where you wanna go (3-RB starters) but you allow the WR/TE option.

Once again, RB-RB-RB Leagues are just that. If you are gonna emphasis RB's and then tie it to the playoff weeks, well that's just not a good way to get more playoff starters on the field come playoff weeks. You end up reducing the rosters (because of the RB emphasis) and then you reduce how you can play them (in the playoffs).

As to .5 PPR.....same observation.....give the rest of the positions a break and don't make it another RB-RB-RB-RB- (let's draft another RB) League. Do a full blown one point per reception.

Ten starters implies 1-QB, TE, PK, DEF + (2-RB, 2-WR) plus some other combo of flex players equalling two. I'm having a tough time figuring out how that works while providing for anything other that a bunch of MANDATORY RB starters

 

[gorf]

i'd prefer to play with no fees other than whatever mfl charges (or whichever site we use)

that said, if other people really want to play for money, i can step aside and let someone else play. but i do agree with the previous poster who pointed out that if we have any turnover (and we will, at some point), it's a lot easier to find a good owner if it's a free league.

 

[benm3218]

Let's do this unless there are major objections ... in which case, let us know.

- 0.5 PPR

- 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex, 1 TE? This is the one point where we're still up in the air. I'm guessing this might take a minute to figure out. My league gives TE's extra points as an incentive to use them as WRs, and it works very well. Just a thought. If we arranged scoring like that, we could do 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 flex.

- start 10, roster = 25

- Pay = $50, at the very least we can cover the website. I'm very sensitive to the point raised earlier about high fees ... or any fees. I wouldn't have any problem with straight bragging rights, but it probably screws the regular season champ just a tad.

- Let's use MFL unless someone is ambitious enough to figure out that a free site can host it just as well

- Slow draft with peer pressure

This is a long thread....but, I believe that there's been sentiment for the 1-RB + 4-WR option (i.e., 1-RB, 2-WR + 2-Flex). I think that you even propossed it. To set two RB's in stone is different than setting 1-RB in stone and flexing the two remaining starters. You still get where you wanna go (3-RB starters) but you allow the WR/TE option.

Once again, RB-RB-RB Leagues are just that. If you are gonna emphasis RB's and then tie it to the playoff weeks, well that's just not a good way to get more playoff starters on the field come playoff weeks. You end up reducing the rosters (because of the RB emphasis) and then you reduce how you can play them (in the playoffs).

As to .5 PPR.....same observation.....give the rest of the positions a break and don't make it another RB-RB-RB-RB- (let's draft another RB) League. Do a full blown one point per reception.

Ten starters implies 1-QB, TE, PK, DEF + (2-RB, 2-WR) plus some other combo of flex players equalling two. I'm having a tough time figuring out how that works while providing for anything other that a bunch of MANDATORY RB starters

My other league is start 1 RB and 1 WR with 4 offensive flex spots. this way you can go RB's OR WR's and for playoffs you could play all WR if needed to. I like this style alot. I do not like PPR. I dont see the point. It inflates values on lousy receivers and creates a weird style of play.

 

[Toads]

i'd prefer to play with no fees other than whatever mfl charges (or whichever site we use)

that said, if other people really want to play for money, i can step aside and let someone else play. but i do agree with the previous poster who pointed out that if we have any turnover (and we will, at some point), it's a lot easier to find a good owner if it's a free league.

Plus, it allows the guys that play for The Love Of the Game to be able to play.There's a lot to be said for that.

If anybody wants to drop out because there's no money to be had.....I don't think anybody voiced that opinon?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Let's do this unless there are major objections ... in which case, let us know.

- 0.5 PPR

- 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex, 1 TE? This is the one point where we're still up in the air. I'm guessing this might take a minute to figure out. My league gives TE's extra points as an incentive to use them as WRs, and it works very well. Just a thought. If we arranged scoring like that, we could do 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 flex.

- start 10, roster = 25

- Pay = $50, at the very least we can cover the website. I'm very sensitive to the point raised earlier about high fees ... or any fees. I wouldn't have any problem with straight bragging rights, but it probably screws the regular season champ just a tad.

- Let's use MFL unless someone is ambitious enough to figure out that a free site can host it just as well

- Slow draft with peer pressure

This is a long thread....but, I believe that there's been sentiment for the 1-RB + 4-WR option (i.e., 1-RB, 2-WR + 2-Flex). I think that you even propossed it. To set two RB's in stone is different than setting 1-RB in stone and flexing the two remaining starters. You still get where you wanna go (3-RB starters) but you allow the WR/TE option.

Once again, RB-RB-RB Leagues are just that. If you are gonna emphasis RB's and then tie it to the playoff weeks, well that's just not a good way to get more playoff starters on the field come playoff weeks. You end up reducing the rosters (because of the RB emphasis) and then you reduce how you can play them (in the playoffs).

As to .5 PPR.....same observation.....give the rest of the positions a break and don't make it another RB-RB-RB-RB- (let's draft another RB) League. Do a full blown one point per reception.

Ten starters implies 1-QB, TE, PK, DEF + (2-RB, 2-WR) plus some other combo of flex players equalling two. I'm having a tough time figuring out how that works while providing for anything other that a bunch of MANDATORY RB starters

I'm not getting all of the concern about RBs dominating. It's never really been a problem in any league I've been in.I would think allowing for 2 flex where you could start 3 RBs would be a much bigger problem in that direction than anything else that's been mentioned.

And I'm still against a full point per reception. I just think it's too much reward for catching a pass and skews values too much.

 

[shader]

We can't satisfy everyone fully, so we need to move on to fees, so that we can lock down the people playing in this league.

I am all for fees, but there are so far 2 people who cannot do fees.

Do we want to move on and make this a pay league, or make it for bragging rights this year, and have everyone save up to do a money league starting next year?

 

[gorf]

Do we want to move on and make this a pay league, or make it for bragging rights this year, and have everyone save up to do a money league starting next year?

not sure if that was intended as an either/or question, but those aren't the only two choices.

 

[mcintyre1]

Let's do this unless there are major objections ... in which case, let us know.

- 0.5 PPR - This is fine with me, 1 PPR is kind of high.

- 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex, 1 TE? This is the one point where we're still up in the air. I'm guessing this might take a minute to figure out. My league gives TE's extra points as an incentive to use them as WRs, and it works very well. Just a thought. If we arranged scoring like that, we could do 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 flex. - I've always liked the BZ lineup, which is 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FX, but that isn't 10 starters, like some have requested. I'm flexible here.

- start 10, roster = 25 - Sounds good

- Pay = $50, at the very least we can cover the website. I'm very sensitive to the point raised earlier about high fees ... or any fees. I wouldn't have any problem with straight bragging rights, but it probably screws the regular season champ just a tad. My thoughts are above

- Let's use MFL unless someone is ambitious enough to figure out that a free site can host it just as well

- Slow draft with peer pressure

 

[kremenull]

Let's do this unless there are major objections ... in which case, let us know.

- 0.5 PPR

- 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex, 1 TE? This is the one point where we're still up in the air. I'm guessing this might take a minute to figure out. My league gives TE's extra points as an incentive to use them as WRs, and it works very well. Just a thought. If we arranged scoring like that, we could do 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 flex.

- start 10, roster = 25

- Pay = $50, at the very least we can cover the website. I'm very sensitive to the point raised earlier about high fees ... or any fees. I wouldn't have any problem with straight bragging rights, but it probably screws the regular season champ just a tad.

- Let's use MFL unless someone is ambitious enough to figure out that a free site can host it just as well

- Slow draft with peer pressure

This is a long thread....but, I believe that there's been sentiment for the 1-RB + 4-WR option (i.e., 1-RB, 2-WR + 2-Flex). I think that you even propossed it. To set two RB's in stone is different than setting 1-RB in stone and flexing the two remaining starters. You still get where you wanna go (3-RB starters) but you allow the WR/TE option.

Once again, RB-RB-RB Leagues are just that. If you are gonna emphasis RB's and then tie it to the playoff weeks, well that's just not a good way to get more playoff starters on the field come playoff weeks. You end up reducing the rosters (because of the RB emphasis) and then you reduce how you can play them (in the playoffs).

As to .5 PPR.....same observation.....give the rest of the positions a break and don't make it another RB-RB-RB-RB- (let's draft another RB) League. Do a full blown one point per reception.

Ten starters implies 1-QB, TE, PK, DEF + (2-RB, 2-WR) plus some other combo of flex players equalling two. I'm having a tough time figuring out how that works while providing for anything other that a bunch of MANDATORY RB starters

Ten starters implies 1-QB, TE, PK, DEF + (2-RB, 2-WR) plus some other combo of flex players equalling two. I'm having a tough time figuring out how that works while providing for anything other that a bunch of MANDATORY RB startersIt's pretty simple, I play in several leagues like this.

For 10 starters, you simply have 1 QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE) or 1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex

For 9 starters, you have 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

These leagues are PPR, and usually setup to award TEs 1.5 PPR in order to add variance of strategy. Or, if we decide on just 1 PPR for all positions, then you could make the TE a requirement position and pretty much use the flex for just RB/WR, as without 1.5 PPR why would anyone choose to start a TE as a flex over a RB/WR unless out of dire necessity?

 

[shader]

Do we want to move on and make this a pay league, or make it for bragging rights this year, and have everyone save up to do a money league starting next year?

not sure if that was intended as an either/or question, but those aren't the only two choices.

You're correct. We could do a free league permanently. I guess even that is something we should worry about later.Basically, the question is whether we should make this a 50 dollar league this year or a free league this year. We'll worry about next year after the off-season.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Most of the industry leagues use this as a lineup:

1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 K and 1 DST

Is there any reason not to use that if we're looking for a 10-player starting lineup?