Well, I originally posted this in response to KKrew in the original thread, but it got locked while I was typing, so I'll just post it here. KKrew's question was why Gonzalez lasted when his VBD number suggested he was worth a first rounder in this league. Here's my response:---------You can't go off straight VBD in this league because of the best starter format. For example, I like Culpepper a lot, and he's projected at 361 fantasy points, easily the #1 QB. But two QBs projected at 280 points, say Trent Green and Jeff Garcia, may score more than Culpepper would on his own, because of the best starter format. Similarly, Gonzalez is projected to score 261 points. Heap is projected to score 224, Shockey 223, Winslow 195, Crumpler 177, Boo Williams 168, McMichael 152, Gates 142, and it continues to drop off from there. If someone could put together a TEBC of Crumpler and Boo Williams, for example, it could be almost as valuable as Gonzalez on his own. Maybe even more so, because althought the combination might not score as much as Gonzalez in a best starter format, their scoring would be smoother than Gonzalez alone because of the high variability of TE scoring. They might average a point less per week, but they'll make up for it by not getting 3 point weeks as often. Of course, not many people will get a team of Crumpler and Boo Williams, because not many people are willing to spend two fairly early picks at TE. Which means Gonzalez alone does still have a significant VBD advantage over the 2 TEs most other people will have. It's just not the points(player A) - points (player B) model that we usually use to determine value. As a thumb rule (I have no numbers to back it up) I imagine the value of a second player at a single starter starting position as being about 1/3 of that player's actual value - so if I take Crumpler and Boo, I get 177 + (1/3 x 168 = 56) = 233 points from the combo. If I take Culpepper at 361, and someone else takes Trent Green (286) and Jeff Garcia (1/3 x 279 = 03) they get 379 points. Any backup at all would increase Culpepper's value over those two, but only barely. The same is true about kickers and Ds, but not RB and WR. Because you can start 2 RBs, the addition of a third RB is probably worth 1/2 of their points, and a fourth is worth maybe a third. Keeping in mind that these are very rough numbers, of course. With three receivers, I'd almost say that fourth receiver is worth almost his entire set of points, and a fifth an even half of their points. Those extra players will score throughout the season, and you're throwing away points if you don't take them. Probably the easiest way to add points to your team is to add more receivers to the roster because no matter how good they end up being, the variability at WR combined with the number of starters at the position means that each one will score fairly often. That's my .02 on how VBD is effected by the Survivor format.