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The Oscars Do-Over: Heeeere's the 80s! 1980+1981 (1 Viewer)

Best Picture of 1981

  • Raiders of the Lost Ark

    Votes: 48 61.5%
  • Blow Out

    Votes: 2 2.6%
  • Das Boot

    Votes: 8 10.3%
  • Reds

    Votes: 2 2.6%
  • Chariots of Fire

    Votes: 9 11.5%
  • On Golden Pond

    Votes: 9 11.5%
  • Ragtime

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    78

Ilov80s

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Link back to the original thread  that has all the 90s links as well as the basic premise. 

Vote and post to convince me which movies deserve the award. I will read, discuss and come back later to give a final verdict. 

 
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My Bull is Raging On Golden Pond...

But - it was hard to pass on Empire & Raiders - cause I saw em at the absolutely perfect age - 12 to 13.

I grew up, but still love em - just not as much as my votes. 

🙂

 
Empire and Raiders

Not close for me. 

I consider both the best all time of their genres and Raiders is my favorite film of all time and arguably the best action/adventure of all time.

 
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Voted On Golden Pond.  Only time I ever broke my never watch anything with Jane Fonda in it rule.  I knew it would probably be close to the last thing Henry Fonda did plus he played next to my all time favorite female lead Audrey Hepburn.  I'm glad I broke my rule.

1980 voted The Shining because Nicholson.

 
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Ordinary People is in my all time Top 10 list so I went with that.

I also went with Raiders, just because it's simply the best action movie of all time.

 
80 has one of the ultimate movie fan boy 3 way battles. Kubrick vs Scorsese vs Star Wars
So true. And when Scorsese has Bob - Kubrick has Jack - and SW has the zeitgeist of the young - it can get really complicated. 

I do not think I'll be arguing much on any of the 3 - and, to make it worse, The Blues Brothers has nearly as much personal weight with me as O Brother. 

Gonna be some fun chattin' in here. 

 
Ordinary People is in my all time Top 10 list so I went with that.

I also went with Raiders, just because it's simply the best action movie of all time.
I’ll be honest, I still have never seen Ordinary People (or Chariots of Fire). These are the first 2 movies I have put on the most that I haven’t seen. 

 
Not quite sure for 1980 yet -- I'm going to try to get some research in over the next couple of nights, as it looks like some are available streaming (including Raging Bull and Ordinary People).  Probably going to be Raging Bull, but I want to give it a re-watch as it has probably been about 20 years since I last watched it (and never seen Ordinary People).

For 1981, leaning Das Boot.  Raiders is great, but the cinematography in Das Boot blew me away.

 
Not quite sure for 1980 yet -- I'm going to try to get some research in over the next couple of nights, as it looks like some are available streaming (including Raging Bull and Ordinary People).  Probably going to be Raging Bull, but I want to give it a re-watch as it has probably been about 20 years since I last watched it (and never seen Ordinary People).

For 1981, leaning Das Boot.  Raiders is great, but the cinematography in Das Boot blew me away.
What service is Ordinary People on?

 
I voted for Ordinary People and On Golden Pond.

I think Ordinary People is one of the best character study type movies ever made. It is a realistic portrayal of a family falling apart in the aftermath of a tragedy. This movie was Robert Redford's directorial debut, and what a fine start. Everything captured on camera from facial expressions, emotions, to subtle things in the background were so well done.  The driving force of the movie was the ensemble cast of Mary Tyler Moore, Timothy Hutton, Donald Sutherland, Judd Hirsch, and in a smaller role Elizabeth McGovern. The cast were outstanding in their roles, and their character portrayals made the story so authentic and relatable. It isn't a fast paced movie, but it didn't need to be.  Great acting, an interesting script, and delicate subject matter handled very well created an excellent powerful drama.

I love On Golden Pond. I have a soft spot for old folks anyway, but I really enjoyed this story. Fonda and Hepburn were great as Norman and Ethel, and the movie was sweet, funny, and serious. It had a little bit of everything, and whole lot of great.  

 
It wont, but Elephant Man should get more love here.  Great movie.   Raging Bull got my vote, but it was a hard choice between that, EM, and Shining.  

Come on people- Empire as best pic??  And that is easily my favorite of the series.  

 
Would have thought you were a Raiders guy for sure 
:no:

I think I was a tad too young, so I missed that in my movie sweet spot as a kid, and when I did get to it, the movie didn't grab my attention like a lot of others from the decade did.  It would take quite awhile for me to get to Raiders if I was listing my top 80s movies.  

 
One thing that I just realized on Das Boot is that I've only seen the Director's Cut that came out in 1997.  If we are voting on theatrical version, that may change my vote.  

 
It wont, but Elephant Man should get more love here.  Great movie.   Raging Bull got my vote, but it was a hard choice between that, EM, and Shining.  

Come on people- Empire as best pic??  And that is easily my favorite of the series.  
Yeah - John Hurt will get my vote for best actor, here. 

I was gonna mention the movie, but, then I would have been naming them all.. Ha. 

I agree with ya, though. 

 
It wont, but Elephant Man should get more love here.  Great movie.   Raging Bull got my vote, but it was a hard choice between that, EM, and Shining.  

Come on people- Empire as best pic??  And that is easily my favorite of the series.  
Do you think the original Star Wars was deserving because of how unique it was and the impact it had on movies or are they all just too popcorn for Best Picture?

 
Do you think the original Star Wars was deserving because of how unique it was and the impact it had on movies or are they all just too popcorn for Best Picture?
Can't speak for KP, but as someone who experienced it during its hype - I'd say no.

Hate to be that way, but it was fun - just not too exceptional on many other fronts.

 
Body Heat was far & away the best picture of 1981, so i tried to just vote 1980 but it wouldn't let me so i threw in Das Boot. My favorite 1980 movie was a really wacky vehicle called The Stunt Man w Peter O'Toole but i wasn't really award-worthy. Didn't even like either Best Picture - Ordinary People was like Crash, a timely issue winner and i'm a real Anglophile in my viewing tastes but Chariots was still a snore.

 
Do you think the original Star Wars was deserving because of how unique it was and the impact it had on movies or are they all just too popcorn for Best Picture?
In a year without any truly outstanding films (Annie Hall was good, but not great), I say yes, why not?

 
Do you think the original Star Wars was deserving because of how unique it was and the impact it had on movies or are they all just too popcorn for Best Picture?
I am not too much of a snob that a popcorny movie wouldn't get my vote for something like this.    

I just think that after I take off my 10 year old KP glasses, I don't think even the original SWs are all that well written or directed.  Speilberg already cracked open the summer blockbuster and event movies a couple years earlier with Jaws, so it also doesn't get credit for that either.  Maybe I'm being too harsh on them, but after the abominations that were Ep1-3, I went back to the originals and the blueprint for the suck that was those sequels was all over the originals as well.  (ie C3-PO is every bit as annoying as Jar Jar).  

 
Body Heat was far & away the best picture of 1981, so i tried to just vote 1980 but it wouldn't let me so i threw in Das Boot. My favorite 1980 movie was a really wacky vehicle called The Stunt Man w Peter O'Toole but i wasn't really award-worthy. Didn't even like either Best Picture - Ordinary People was like Crash, a timely issue winner and i'm a real Anglophile in my viewing tastes but Chariots was still a snore.
Am I just tooooo stoned, wikkid - or - did you not mention your '80 vote?

 
Body Heat was far & away the best picture of 1981, so i tried to just vote 1980 but it wouldn't let me so i threw in Das Boot. My favorite 1980 movie was a really wacky vehicle called The Stunt Man w Peter O'Toole but i wasn't really award-worthy. Didn't even like either Best Picture - Ordinary People was like Crash, a timely issue winner and i'm a real Anglophile in my viewing tastes but Chariots was still a snore.
I had a hard time cutting out Body Heat. 

 
I enjoyed Raging Bull but I have the same reaction to it that I have to the Godfather, I'll never understand the endless love  

 
krista4 said:
It got my vote.  The acting blew me away.

Voted lukewarmly for Raiders for ‘81.
I totally forgot that Elephant Man was a David Lynch film. There’s some damn good directors in that 1980 group.

 
Went with Raging Bull and Raiders.

1980 process of elimination:

  • eliminated "Atlantic City" because I never saw it.
  • eliminated "The Blues Brothers" because it's just too awesome to win an Oscar.
  • eliminated "The Shining" because the best parts are just Jack chewing up scenery. And Shelley Duvall can't act.
  • eliminated "The Elephant Man" because the whole thing boils down to one scene ("I am not an animal!")
  • eliminated "Ordinary People" because the acting outshined the script.
  • eliminated "Empire" because "Raging Bull" was just a bit better.
1981 process of elimination:

  • eliminated "Blow Out" because Travolta can't act.
  • eliminated "Chariots Of Fire" because the movie would have been completely forgotten if not for that song.
  • eliminated "Reds" because the whole "American observing Russian political intrigue" seemed like manufactured drama to me.
  • eliminated "Ragtime" because it feels more like a series of unrelated short documentaries.
  • eliminated "Das Boot" because the other two movies were better. But "Das Boot" created a sense of tension like no other movie I've ever seen.
  • eliminated "On Golden Pond" only because "Raiders" is in my top-10 all time.
 
Not sure if it's the movies or the decade or people are tired of the concept or we are just in all-music-all-the-time-zone here but this didn't get many votes or replies so these threads may go on hiatus for awhile. 

 
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Not sure if it's the movies or the decade or people are tired of the concept or we are just in all-music-all-the-time-zone here but this didn't get many votes or replies so these threads may go on hiatus for awhile. 
Yeah, probably a combination of the three.   I think from the second group I've only watched Raiders.  I just don't feel that strongly to movies in the early 80s (except a few choice comedies).  Early 2000s would probably get more traction.  

That being said, tough choice for me between Shining and Raging Bull.  Went Shining just b/c I'm a Kubrick stan and it's probably my favorite horror/suspense film of all time.  

 
Yeah, probably a combination of the three.   I think from the second group I've only watched Raiders.  I just don't feel that strongly to movies in the early 80s (except a few choice comedies).  Early 2000s would probably get more traction.  

That being said, tough choice for me between Shining and Raging Bull.  Went Shining just b/c I'm a Kubrick stan and it's probably my favorite horror/suspense film of all time.  
Looking at 82 and 82,  it might draw some more conversation as there are some big films there but not quite anything like what I thought Empire, Raging Bull and The Shining might elicit. 

 
Went with the chalk here, I think the Oscars got these right.

Ordinary People is not an easy movie to watch, but it's very well done and just an excellent film.  I love everything Kubrik and I loved the Shining, but Ordinary People was better.  I also loved ESB and Raging Bull, but again, think Ordinary People is better.  Raging Bull is kind of a Deniro tour de force, and Empire is great, but let's face it, it touches a more sci-fi/fantasy audience (which I am a proud member) so the odds were stacked against it.

Chariots of Fire to me is simply awesome.  I think Lawrence of Arabia is the most perfect film pretty much ever, but Chariots is on the short list behind it. It's great story telling, with great sets and an awesome score.  It has great performances and I really don't see any reason for it not to be voted best picture.  I can see the argument for Raiders, sure.  It's a fun ride, but to me it's a distant second.  Great movie, I can watch either any time.

 
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Went with the chalk here, I think the Oscars got these right.

Ordinary People is not an easy movie to watch, but it's very well done and just an excellent film.  I love everything Kubrik and I loved the Shining, but Ordinary People was better.  I also loved ESB and Raging Bull, but again, think Ordinary People is better.  Raging Bull is kind of a Deniro tour de force, and Empire is great, but let's face it, it touches a more sci-fi/fantasy audience (which I am a proud member) so the odds were stacked against it.

Chariots of Fire to me is simply awesome.  I think Lawrence of Arabia is the most perfect film pretty much ever, but Chariots is on the short list behind it. It's great story telling, with great sets and an awesome score.  It has great performances and I really don't see any reason for it not to be voted best picture.  I can see the argument for Raiders, sure.  It's a fun ride, but to me it's a distant second.  Great movie, I can watch either any time.
Nice takes, if I post another one I hope to hear from you. I like those who against the grain (well at least the grain here). 

 
Not sure if it's the movies or the decade or people are tired of the concept or we are just in all-music-all-the-time-zone here but this didn't get many votes or replies so these threads may go on hiatus for awhile. 
I’d agree with probably a combo. I was holding off on voting for the research that I mentioned.

I don’t mind taking it slower. A lot of what I enjoyed on the KP polls was discovering movies that I had not watched, and were not even on my radar.  Most of my movie watching is weekends though. I suppose there were only a core dozen or so really active in those threads though.

 
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Not that they are going to win Best Picture awards, but I was just looking and 1981 was a damn good year for horror movies:  American Werewolf in Paris, The Evil Dead, Scanners, The Howling.  

 
Re-watched Raging Bull.  I’m still fairly ambivalent about it, and think it is a bit overrated relative to where it shows up in the AFI lists.  I don’t really see LaMotta as a complicated, or even interesting, person — he’s just an ####### who is good at boxing.

I still would like to watch Ordinary People, but haven’t been watching much movies with the NBA and NHL playoffs going right now.  Closing out my votes with The Shining and Das Boot (based on the later Director’s Cut, if that matters).

 
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Re-watched Raging Bull.  I’m still fairly ambivalent about it, and think it is a bit overrated relative to where it shows up in the AFI lists.  I don’t really see LaMotta as a complicated, or even interesting, person — he’s just an ####### who is good at boxing.

I still would like to watch Ordinary People, but haven’t been watching much movies with the NBA and NHL playoffs going right now.  Closing out my votes with The Shining and Das Boot (based on the later Director’s Cut, if that matters).
Lamotta is not complicated at all. He’s an ###. However the performance is fantastic and the direction/cinematography is gorgeous.

 
Re-watched Raging Bull.  I’m still fairly ambivalent about it, and think it is a bit overrated relative to where it shows up in the AFI lists.  I don’t really see LaMotta as a complicated, or even interesting, person — he’s just an ####### who is good at boxing.

I still would like to watch Ordinary People, but haven’t been watching much movies with the NBA and NHL playoffs going right now.  Closing out my votes with The Shining and Das Boot (based on the later Director’s Cut, if that matters).
It was an important movie in a time when men were trying to deconstruct their gender's dickishness. Now that we see that we did that to better defend rather than resolve that particular foible, the significance pales...

 
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Lamotta is not complicated at all. He’s an ###. However the performance is fantastic and the direction/cinematography is gorgeous.
It is technically outstanding, and I appreciate those aspects of it. But I find it lacking any kind of a character arc or depth, or interesting story, that makes it rise to the level of great. 

 
It is technically outstanding, and I appreciate those aspects of it. But I find it lacking any kind of a character arc or depth, or interesting story, that makes it rise to the level of great. 
That’s fair and it’s part of the reason I have wrapped this up yet. I think I should pick Raging Bull but my hearts not totally in it. 

 
It wont, but Elephant Man should get more love here.  Great movie.   Raging Bull got my vote, but it was a hard choice between that, EM, and Shining.  

Come on people- Empire as best pic??  And that is easily my favorite of the series.  
Elephant Man perhaps the most depressing movie I’ve ever seen. I recall seeing it as a kid and literally sobbing at the end.

 
That’s fair and it’s part of the reason I have wrapped this up yet. I think I should pick Raging Bull but my hearts not totally in it. 
Yeah, I generally feel like a movie that is in the Top 5 of AFI's Top 100 list should be an easy pick.  It just sticks out like a sore thumb when I look at the list though. It's surrounded by movies that are not only technically great, but also have great plots and storylines.

 
Yeah, I generally feel like a movie that is in the Top 5 of AFI's Top 100 list should be an easy pick.  It just sticks out like a sore thumb when I look at the list though. It's surrounded by movies that are not only technically great, but also have great plots and storylines.
I am a big boxing fan so I probably like it more than you do but I find it's AFI ranking really high. It's more of a latter half of the list for me. 

 
1980

Best Actor: Robert Deniro, Raging Bull

Best Actress: Susan Sarandon, Atlantic City

Best Supporting Actor: Judd Hirsch, Ordinary People

Best Supporting Actress: ??? Not too familiar with many of the main performances to say

Best Director: Martin Scorses, Raging Bull

Best Screenplay: Alvin Sargent and Judith Guest, Ordinary People 

1981

Best Actor: Henry Fonda, On Golden Pond

Best Actress: Katharine Hepburn, On Golden Pond 

Best Supporting Actor: Howard E. Rollins, Ragtime 

Best Supporting Actress: Jane Fonda, On Golden Pond 

Best Director: Wolfgang Peterson, Das Boot

Best Screenplay: Ernest Thompson, On Golden Pond 

 
Best Supporting Actress: ??? Not too familiar with many of the main performances to say
The first one I thought of was Mary Steenburgen in Melvin & Howard, but when I checked, I saw that she actually won it. That actually concerns me, cause I typically don't like goin' chalk.

Good list.

 
I expected the FBG to go total fanboy here and choose Empire and Raiders. I was willing to even go along with it. What would be more 80s than starting the decade off with Han Solo and Indiana Jones? Reluctantly, I am going to agree with the FBG here and reluctantly disagree with the Academy. 

1980 Best Picture: Raging Bull 

I sucked your bother's ####

You never got me down Ray!

I'm da boss, I'm da boss, I'm da boss...

Now, sometimes, at night, when I think back, I feel like I'm looking at an old black-and-white movie of myself. Why it should be black-and-white I don't know, but it is. Not a good movie, either, jerky, with gaps in it, a string of poorly lit sequences, some of them with no beginning and some with no end ... And almost all of it happens at night, as if I lived my whole life at night. - Jake LaMotta 
Raging Bull isn't a Jake LaMotta biopic, it's Jake LaMotta's dream world. 

1981 Best Picture: Raiders of the Lost Ark

The theme

The original snakes on a plane

It's not the years honey, it's the mileage 

There isn't anything really to say about the movie. There is no analysis needed. Which is what makes it great, it's 100% fun...and isn't that what the movies are for?

 

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