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The Pacific Northwest is in flames (1 Viewer)

Buc in Exile said:
You imagine correctly.  There are a lot of farming livelihoods on the line in the Gorge.  We've had some ash falling in the Willamette Valley and smoky skies - biggest adjustment I've had to make is moving all tastings inside the barrel room due to air quality but obviously that's nothing compared to what they're facing over there.  Latest forecast I've seen is that it's supposed to start improving later today through tomorrow but we'll see.
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Which winery?  I may have to stop by and say hi.  

 
The General said:
I'm golfing on Saturday about 80 miles northeast of the current big fire (Mount Jolly). My only protection is a hat, sunglasses, and coors lights. Wish me luck.
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I'm headed down to Langdon Farms right now to hit some balls and play 9.   

 
Yeah, this has been just brutal. It was bad enough before the Eagle Creek fire, but now it's raining ash and the sun is a red ghost, barely seen. Eyes are irritated, and I'm giving my pup shorter walks as a result. Oh, and #### those dumb ### kids with fireworks. I really hope this gets fireworks outlawed for good in Oregon. 

 
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Buc in Exile said:
This is my place: https://bellsupwinery.com/

I'm by appointment because I'm such a tiny producer but I live on site so I'm real flexible on when I can take appointments - shoot me a PM or email and let me know when you want to stop by and we'll make it work!
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Looks nice. I'll have to stop by sometime, and will let you know. Great name, my Ridgeback's name is Belle. 

 
@krista4 we just drove through Leavenworth. Had a beer in the beer garden, I wouldn't want to hike there if it's anything like this. Visibility is probably a mile tops and the air is bad. Pretty lame.

 
krista4 said:
We've had a few bad wildfire summers in our time in the Seattle area, but I don't remember the ash and smoke spreading so far and being quite so scary before.  Thanks for starting the thread.  I feel like few outside the area are aware of what's happening up here.  We're losing so much.

I'm not in danger of my house going up in flames with the current fires, but the ash is raining down constantly.  The smoke has been so thick that we've closed off the house as best we can as our lungs and eyes were fiercely affected. Every day is like a nuclear winter right now.  And I've plenty of friends being evacuated from homes and, in some cases, trails who have it much, much worse.  

We have a backpacking trip starting Sept. 17, for which we won lottery permits in March, that is unlikely to happen as that area has mostly been closed/evacuated.  The number of trails I love that will now never be the same is huge.  The burning and regeneration of forests isn't a bad thing usually, but this beyond the pale.
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Sorry to hear.  Seeing the Columbia River Gorge pictures is mind blowing.

As to the bolded, I've read research that because we put the fires out and do not allow them to do their thing naturally that we get a build-up of undergrowth that causes the fires to burn hotter, killing off trees that would have in the past survived.  There are portions of the Sierras here in CA that burned a long time ago and are simply not coming back.  Not sure what to do about it when people's homes are at stake, but it's an interesting subject worthy of some debate.  Hopefully the NW is able to see the forests grow back to what they were.  It's a stunningly beautiful area.

 
urbanhack said:
That's what they are saying about the fire that is in the Gorge (Columbia River).  Witnesses say a kid threw a smoke bomb over the side of the trail.  People here are pretty devastated about the Gorge.  (Eagle Creek fire)
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I had the pleasure of visiting the Gorge last year for the first time.  What a beautiful place, can't fathom the heartbreak of watching it burn down. 

Here in the mountains in Colorado it's very smoky, red sun in the late afternoons, and we're 700-800 miles away from most of the fires.  Can't imagine what it's like in close.

Good luck and stay safe. 

 
Dickies said:
Sorry to hear.  Seeing the Columbia River Gorge pictures is mind blowing.

As to the bolded, I've read research that because we put the fires out and do not allow them to do their thing naturally that we get a build-up of undergrowth that causes the fires to burn hotter, killing off trees that would have in the past survived.  There are portions of the Sierras here in CA that burned a long time ago and are simply not coming back.  Not sure what to do about it when people's homes are at stake, but it's an interesting subject worthy of some debate.  Hopefully the NW is able to see the forests grow back to what they were.  It's a stunningly beautiful area.
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More specifically, I believe it gets hot enough to burn through the topsoil and nutrients in the soil, which are necessary ingredients for the revegetation process to occur.

 
Dickies said:
Sorry to hear.  Seeing the Columbia River Gorge pictures is mind blowing.

As to the bolded, I've read research that because we put the fires out and do not allow them to do their thing naturally that we get a build-up of undergrowth that causes the fires to burn hotter, killing off trees that would have in the past survived.  There are portions of the Sierras here in CA that burned a long time ago and are simply not coming back.  Not sure what to do about it when people's homes are at stake, but it's an interesting subject worthy of some debate.  Hopefully the NW is able to see the forests grow back to what they were.  It's a stunningly beautiful area.
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It's absolutely true that in many instances just letting them burn is the right path.  This book (by author of A River Runs Through It) is about much more than that, but is a great read on a lot of topics mentioned in this thread.  There are formulae that are used to determine threats to human population and when to fight fire rather than letting it burn; probably some people here can describe this better than I could.

 
Really sad story about the great grandmother and two small children killed in the fires today. Maybe a stupid question but I don’t understand how people are dying in these fires?  don’t they evacuate?  Don’t you have some warning it’s coming?  It’s not like a random fire in your home while everyone is sleeping — the block next to yours is burning down, and you know it — why not leave?

not meant to be insensitive, just really curious about how this goes down. 

 
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