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The Rams going after Lee Evans (1 Viewer)

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St. Louis radio said this morning that the Rams are apparently interested in trading for Lee Evans. We'll be interesting to see if this has any legs...

 
Funny, I posted earlier in the season that they should trade Evans to a team with a QB and a chance. Wonder what they would offer. He could be great on another team.

 
ConstruxBoy said:
Please let it somehow be for their 2nd.
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No chance since Moss went for a 3rd. Evans is one of the most talented receivers on one of the worst teams. If he had a legitimate qb and a legitimate backside receiver to get rid of bracket coverage he would be a legitimate WR1. One of the most consistent handed/deep threat receivers in the NFL
 
As a long-time owner and supporter of Evans, I am skeptical. It certainly couldn't hurt his chances, but I have been less and less in the "Evans is ultra-talented and just needs better opportunities" camp over the past couple of years.

I just think that a truly elite talent will produce, even on a crappy team. He may not flourish, but he doesn't totally disappear for multiple game stretches like Evans does. I'm starting to think he just isn't as talented as I thought he was.

But you would have had to move him a long time ago to get anything of value for him, so he's a ride it out and hope for he best guy at this point.

 
Holy Schneikes said:
As a long-time owner and supporter of Evans, I am skeptical. It certainly couldn't hurt his chances, but I have been less and less in the "Evans is ultra-talented and just needs better opportunities" camp over the past couple of years.I just think that a truly elite talent will produce, even on a crappy team. He may not flourish, but he doesn't totally disappear for multiple game stretches like Evans does. I'm starting to think he just isn't as talented as I thought he was.
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I would tend to agree.Granted, his QBs haven't helped for a number of years now, but at some point the QB situation can't be totally used as an excuse.Other WRs have done just fine with mediocre-to-week QBs, and if Evans were that good, he'd find a way to get open and get the ball. He didn't do much even when he had TO as a threat on the other side of the field.The guy may have great speed and hands, but seems to not be able to consistently beat a team's top corner.
 
Am I remembering this incorrectly, or did Lee Evans sign a pretty hefty contract a year or so ago? Would the Rams be willing to take on salary like that (if it is indeed true)?

 
takensguy said:
Am I remembering this incorrectly, or did Lee Evans sign a pretty hefty contract a year or so ago? Would the Rams be willing to take on salary like that (if it is indeed true)?
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10/2/2008: Signed a four-year, $37.25 million contract extension through 2012. The deal includes $18.25 million guaranteed and a first-year salary of $11,730,770. Another $3 million is available through incentives. 2010: $5.4 million (+ $3 million roster bonus), 2011-2012: $3.025 million (+ $1 million roster bonuses), 2013: Free AgentLooks like most of the damage has already been done.
 
zamboni said:
Holy Schneikes said:
As a long-time owner and supporter of Evans, I am skeptical. It certainly couldn't hurt his chances, but I have been less and less in the "Evans is ultra-talented and just needs better opportunities" camp over the past couple of years.I just think that a truly elite talent will produce, even on a crappy team. He may not flourish, but he doesn't totally disappear for multiple game stretches like Evans does. I'm starting to think he just isn't as talented as I thought he was.
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I would tend to agree.Granted, his QBs haven't helped for a number of years now, but at some point the QB situation can't be totally used as an excuse.Other WRs have done just fine with mediocre-to-week QBs, and if Evans were that good, he'd find a way to get open and get the ball. He didn't do much even when he had TO as a threat on the other side of the field.The guy may have great speed and hands, but seems to not be able to consistently beat a team's top corner.
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As pessimistic as I would be on Evans, he's still 3 times the player Mark Clayton was, and look at the damage he did.
 
This would be nice as he's sitting on our wire and I just lost Clayton. If this rumor could just get one leg I'd grab him...

 
jimmyd9989 said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Please let it somehow be for their 2nd.
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No chance since Moss went for a 3rd. Evans is one of the most talented receivers on one of the worst teams. If he had a legitimate qb and a legitimate backside receiver to get rid of bracket coverage he would be a legitimate WR1. One of the most consistent handed/deep threat receivers in the NFL
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Maybe since Evans is 4 yrs younger than Moss it's hard to compare trade values here. I agree though that it would be unlikely for STL to give up a 2nd for Evans, but I don't think it has anything to do with Moss.
 
The Rams value their picks greatly. They won't be giving a 2nd or a 3rd for Evans. I guarantee that. I think a 4th is pushing it. I can see a 5th.

 
I doubt this happens and I don't think it has anything to do with the Rams. Why would the Bills give up one of their only good players? Especially, if the pick they're likely to get is no better than a 3rd rounder? They did get rid of Lynch but that had more to do with them having a surplus at the rb position.

 
bulger2holt said:
The Rams value their picks greatly. They won't be giving a 2nd or a 3rd for Evans. I guarantee that. I think a 4th is pushing it. I can see a 5th.
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:confused: I doubt it happens as well. I agree that the best pick that they can receive for Evans is a 5th rounder and in that case, it doesn't make sense to get rid of your best WR for a 5th rounder. I suppose if they are looking to rebuild, it can be a nice salary cap dump if they aren't sold on him like they used to be.
 
bulger2holt said:
The Rams value their picks greatly. They won't be giving a 2nd or a 3rd for Evans. I guarantee that. I think a 4th is pushing it. I can see a 5th.
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31 year old Deion Branch was worth a fourth. 34 year old Randy Moss was worth a third. A fifth? No offense, but that's crazy talk. A fourth at a minimum, and I would say he is worth a third--he is 29 years old and has top WR skills. A third for him would be a steal tbh.
 
sounds like this is a cover for trading for Vincent Jackson

Show you are interested in someone else to drop asking price of who you really want.

No chance Bills trade Evans me thinks

 
Has anyone heard anything other than random radio jock rumors on this? I would love it to happen, but I don't really see if going down. Then again, the Lynch, Moss, and Branch rumors have been true.

 
This has a 0% chance of happening - the Bills have already paid him most of his contract and they only owe him $4M a season for 2011 and 2012. They'd need to get a 1st round to even consider it.

 
Seems like the Mike Sims-Walker trade rumor, that didn't seem to have much backing it. I think this is speculation.

 
zamboni said:
Holy Schneikes said:
As a long-time owner and supporter of Evans, I am skeptical. It certainly couldn't hurt his chances, but I have been less and less in the "Evans is ultra-talented and just needs better opportunities" camp over the past couple of years.I just think that a truly elite talent will produce, even on a crappy team. He may not flourish, but he doesn't totally disappear for multiple game stretches like Evans does. I'm starting to think he just isn't as talented as I thought he was.
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I would tend to agree.Granted, his QBs haven't helped for a number of years now, but at some point the QB situation can't be totally used as an excuse.Other WRs have done just fine with mediocre-to-week QBs, and if Evans were that good, he'd find a way to get open and get the ball. He didn't do much even when he had TO as a threat on the other side of the field.The guy may have great speed and hands, but seems to not be able to consistently beat a team's top corner.
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Evans' Qbs haven't been mediocre to weak--they have been bottom of the barrel bad. The worst. And, while big possession WRs can get theirs even if the QB is bad, speed/deep threats need a guy who can throw long and hit them in stride. So, you really are comparing apples and oranges. Plus, he has had one good year and one great year despite the really bad situation.
 
az_prof said:
zamboni said:
Holy Schneikes said:
As a long-time owner and supporter of Evans, I am skeptical. It certainly couldn't hurt his chances, but I have been less and less in the "Evans is ultra-talented and just needs better opportunities" camp over the past couple of years.I just think that a truly elite talent will produce, even on a crappy team. He may not flourish, but he doesn't totally disappear for multiple game stretches like Evans does. I'm starting to think he just isn't as talented as I thought he was.
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I would tend to agree.Granted, his QBs haven't helped for a number of years now, but at some point the QB situation can't be totally used as an excuse.Other WRs have done just fine with mediocre-to-week QBs, and if Evans were that good, he'd find a way to get open and get the ball. He didn't do much even when he had TO as a threat on the other side of the field.The guy may have great speed and hands, but seems to not be able to consistently beat a team's top corner.
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Evans' Qbs haven't been mediocre to weak--they have been bottom of the barrel bad. The worst. And, while big possession WRs can get theirs even if the QB is bad, speed/deep threats need a guy who can throw long and hit them in stride. So, you really are comparing apples and oranges. Plus, he has had one good year and one great year despite the really bad situation.
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You obviously have not seen the Carolina Panthers play this year!!
 
I've yet to hear anything solid on this. I'm sure the Rams are exploring their options, like any team would when their top WRs are lost for the season, but "going after" Lee Evans sounds like pure speculation. I'd love to get Evans at the right price, but I don't think it's very likely.

 
JAA said:
sounds like this is a cover for trading for Vincent JacksonShow you are interested in someone else to drop asking price of who you really want.No chance Bills trade Evans me thinks
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Except the Rams need is immediate.
 
heidbrink said:
JAA said:
sounds like this is a cover for trading for Vincent JacksonShow you are interested in someone else to drop asking price of who you really want.No chance Bills trade Evans me thinks
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Except the Rams need is immediate.
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Why? Are they worried their window to win a superbowl is closing? Do they think they're a playoff team this season? It doesn't matter whether the Rams go 6-10 this year with decent receivers of 5-11/4-12 with terrible receivers. They're in the same boat, either way. In fact, they're probably better served by going 4-12 and landing another top pick next year.
 
SSOG said:
heidbrink said:
JAA said:
sounds like this is a cover for trading for Vincent JacksonShow you are interested in someone else to drop asking price of who you really want.No chance Bills trade Evans me thinks
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Except the Rams need is immediate.
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Why? Are they worried their window to win a superbowl is closing? Do they think they're a playoff team this season? It doesn't matter whether the Rams go 6-10 this year with decent receivers of 5-11/4-12 with terrible receivers. They're in the same boat, either way. In fact, they're probably better served by going 4-12 and landing another top pick next year.
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In absolute terms, it probably is better long term for them to suck really bad and get a better pick. But the NFL doesn't work quite like that because HC's and GMs want to keep their jobs and owners and fans can be impatient. Head Coaches, in particular, have pretty short ropes, and telling the owner, "we sucked but that's ok because we netted a good pick for the future" won't cut it.
 
jchapman70 said:
az_prof said:
zamboni said:
Holy Schneikes said:
As a long-time owner and supporter of Evans, I am skeptical. It certainly couldn't hurt his chances, but I have been less and less in the "Evans is ultra-talented and just needs better opportunities" camp over the past couple of years.I just think that a truly elite talent will produce, even on a crappy team. He may not flourish, but he doesn't totally disappear for multiple game stretches like Evans does. I'm starting to think he just isn't as talented as I thought he was.
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I would tend to agree.Granted, his QBs haven't helped for a number of years now, but at some point the QB situation can't be totally used as an excuse.Other WRs have done just fine with mediocre-to-week QBs, and if Evans were that good, he'd find a way to get open and get the ball. He didn't do much even when he had TO as a threat on the other side of the field.The guy may have great speed and hands, but seems to not be able to consistently beat a team's top corner.
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Evans' Qbs haven't been mediocre to weak--they have been bottom of the barrel bad. The worst. And, while big possession WRs can get theirs even if the QB is bad, speed/deep threats need a guy who can throw long and hit them in stride. So, you really are comparing apples and oranges. Plus, he has had one good year and one great year despite the really bad situation.
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You obviously have not seen the Carolina Panthers play this year!!
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I haven't. But you have to admit that JP Losman, Edwards, and Fitzpatrick are among the worst trio of QBs a WR has had to endure. They aren't average or even weak: they have to be in the bottom 3 QBs or so. Jake Delhomme is an "average to weak" QB and I would much rather have him in his Carolina hey day than any of those bums Evans has had.
 
Holy Schneikes said:
As a long-time owner and supporter of Evans, I am skeptical. It certainly couldn't hurt his chances, but I have been less and less in the "Evans is ultra-talented and just needs better opportunities" camp over the past couple of years.I just think that a truly elite talent will produce, even on a crappy team. He may not flourish, but he doesn't totally disappear for multiple game stretches like Evans does. I'm starting to think he just isn't as talented as I thought he was.But you would have had to move him a long time ago to get anything of value for him, so he's a ride it out and hope for he best guy at this point.
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What about Steve Smith Carolina? I'd say QB play has hurt him the last couple of years.
 
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pizzatyme said:
Holy Schneikes said:
As a long-time owner and supporter of Evans, I am skeptical. It certainly couldn't hurt his chances, but I have been less and less in the "Evans is ultra-talented and just needs better opportunities" camp over the past couple of years.I just think that a truly elite talent will produce, even on a crappy team. He may not flourish, but he doesn't totally disappear for multiple game stretches like Evans does. I'm starting to think he just isn't as talented as I thought he was.But you would have had to move him a long time ago to get anything of value for him, so he's a ride it out and hope for he best guy at this point.
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What about Steve Smith Carolina? I'd say QB play has hurt him the last couple of years.
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No doubt, but Jake Delhomme was much better than any of the Buffalo QBs.
 
az_prof said:
pizzatyme said:
Holy Schneikes said:
As a long-time owner and supporter of Evans, I am skeptical. It certainly couldn't hurt his chances, but I have been less and less in the "Evans is ultra-talented and just needs better opportunities" camp over the past couple of years.I just think that a truly elite talent will produce, even on a crappy team. He may not flourish, but he doesn't totally disappear for multiple game stretches like Evans does. I'm starting to think he just isn't as talented as I thought he was.But you would have had to move him a long time ago to get anything of value for him, so he's a ride it out and hope for he best guy at this point.
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What about Steve Smith Carolina? I'd say QB play has hurt him the last couple of years.
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No doubt, but Jake Delhomme was much better than any of the Buffalo QBs.
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Maybe, but Fitzpatrick has looked better than anything I have seen from Delhomme over the last 2 years. I know that's not saying much. :rant:
 
I may have missed it here, but I haven't seen anyone ask why the Rams would do this. They currently have 6 young WR's on their squad and I think 5 are pretty talented. One rookie I just don't know anything about.

Robinson - Age 25, oft injured

Amendola - 25

Gilyard - 24, Rookie

Gibson - 23

Avery - 26, IR

Curry - 23, Rookie

What would be the reason for acquiring Evans? What does Evans bring to the table that these guys don't? Evans hasn't been all that productive on a consistent basis during his career and I don't see how going to St. Louis will improve his chances of becoming consistent.

 
Ruffrodys05 said:
I may have missed it here, but I haven't seen anyone ask why the Rams would do this. They currently have 6 young WR's on their squad and I think 5 are pretty talented. One rookie I just don't know anything about. Robinson - Age 25, oft injuredAmendola - 25Gilyard - 24, RookieGibson - 23Avery - 26, IRCurry - 23, RookieWhat would be the reason for acquiring Evans? What does Evans bring to the table that these guys don't? Evans hasn't been all that productive on a consistent basis during his career and I don't see how going to St. Louis will improve his chances of becoming consistent.
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FWIW, I dont think they will trade for Evans... But I think you answered your own question. Out of those 6 you listed, Amendola is a slot receiver, 1 is on IR, 2 are (unproven) rookies, and one is made of balsa wood. No reason why they wouldn't want to bring in a veteran presence. If they liked those 6 receivers so much, they wouldn't have brought in Mark Clayton in the first place.
 
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