The Ryan Williams Experience (1 Viewer)

[Team Legacy]

I'm still shocked some are not buying him as the undisputed #4 rookie pick. In the recent FFPC $1,250 Dynasty I landed him at 6 and was floored!

Let's get the scouts in here... Where's the love??? At 5-9, 212 pounds, the 38th pick in the draft, the Cardinals reportedly had Williams rated as one of the top 15 players in the draft. He's got the speed to take it to the house and he grades out well receiving the ball. He had his fair share of injury issues (hammy) last year, but he plays through them. I like this kid for alot of reasons, but I think what most stands out is how he played through the pain last year. You have to literally pull this kid out of the game because he ain't comin' out on his own. I fully expect him to be a game one starter if they can get into camp and learn the pass protection, that he admittedly struggled with at VT, but generally speaking, running backs don't need alot of time to adjust to the pro level. AZ has been really bad on the ground and was 32nd in the league on the ground last year, so it's a major area of focus for the coaching staff this season in an effort to take the game out of the QB's hands, but if Hightower can average 4.8 YPC, then just think what Williams will do.

5.6 YPC with 290+ carries, 1600+ yards and 21 TDs as a FRESHAM at VT. A 40inch vertical... turn down your audio due to the profanity but the tape speaks for itself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGAQP1Rwsus&feature=related

You will not regret naming drafting Ryan Williams and naming your team The Ryan Williams Experience!

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Beanie Wells starts the season as starter. Beanie ends the season as starter and the bulk of the carries.

 

[Invictus~Bronte]

Scott..

Not much love is due to a bad O-Line and a QB situation that will be a sore spot for 2-3 years minimum. He is very talented but will also have to deal with competition on the roster as well. I like him, don't like his situation too much.

 

[Team Legacy]

Scott..Not much love is due to a bad O-Line and a QB situation that will be a sore spot for 2-3 years minimum. He is very talented but will also have to deal with competition on the roster as well. I like him, don't like his situation too much.

Let's assume that the Cardinals land Hasselback or Kolb. Then what? In 2009 with good QB play, Hightower was a top 10 back for most of the season. I think Williams will have little problem looking better than Hightower.

 

[Invictus~Bronte]

Scott..Not much love is due to a bad O-Line and a QB situation that will be a sore spot for 2-3 years minimum. He is very talented but will also have to deal with competition on the roster as well. I like him, don't like his situation too much.

Let's assume that the Cardinals land Hasselback or Kolb. Then what? In 2009 with good QB play, Hightower was a top 10 back for most of the season. I think Williams will have little problem looking better than Hightower.

They have another guy on the roster who was a 1st round pick I'm sure they will do all they can to get their money's worth from. Then they can either keep Beanie or get something for him. I'm also not loving Hasselbeck ( 1 year at best ) or Kolb. Still plenty growing pains with Kolb and the O-line didn't get miraculously better. The other case maybe looking at a rook QB next year and start the growing pains over again. Hope whoever owns Williams is patient...

 

[Clifford]

I've looked at some game film on the following backs:

Williams: runs well, good pad level, but lacks third gear and tended to get caught from behind a lot against college competition. Did the hammy cause him to lose some top end speed? Worried that he will never be a true breakaway threat in the pros? Kinda reminds me of Moreno.

Thomas: is tall and runs with pads high. Nothing about his game strikes me as exceptional.

Carter: I really, really liked what I saw here. Obviously lacks a top gear as well, so likely not any better than Williams, but considering his far superior qb and oline, and weaker competition, and lower adp, I think he could be great value at rb in this draft. He runs low, good vision, and has good power as well.

I think Williams could be good but injury, qb, oline, and competition give him a much tougher road. Carter is the back I would target after Williams, despite the lack of an elite rusher in Indy since James.

 

[AmosMoses]

I'm still shocked some are not buying him as the undisputed #4 rookie pick. In the recent FFPC $1,250 Dynasty I landed him at 6 and was floored!

Let's get the scouts in here... Where's the love??? At 5-9, 212 pounds, the 38th pick in the draft, the Cardinals reportedly had Williams rated as one of the top 15 players in the draft. He's got the speed to take it to the house and he grades out well receiving the ball. He had his fair share of injury issues (hammy) last year, but he plays through them. I like this kid for alot of reasons, but I think what most stands out is how he played through the pain last year. You have to literally pull this kid out of the game because he ain't comin' out on his own. I fully expect him to be a game one starter if they can get into camp and learn the pass protection, that he admittedly struggled with at VT, but generally speaking, running backs don't need alot of time to adjust to the pro level. AZ has been really bad on the ground and was 32nd in the league on the ground last year, so it's a major area of focus for the coaching staff this season in an effort to take the game out of the QB's hands, but if Hightower can average 4.8 YPC, then just think what Williams will do.

5.6 YPC with 290+ carries, 1600+ yards and 21 TDs as a FRESHAM at VT. A 40inch vertical... turn down your audio due to the profanity but the tape speaks for itself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGAQP1Rwsus&feature=related

You will not regret naming drafting Ryan Williams and naming your team The Ryan Williams Experience!

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[Zimm]

I think this is such a funny situation....The Cards drafted a RB to compete with the "soft" B.Wells and the "insecure" Hightower and replaced him with another "soft" Power RB. No way would i take Williams at pick 4, on tape he just doesn't shine to me and he goes down way to easy. In our rookie draft last week Williams went at 1.8 and i had pick 10 and i would have passed on him there as well if i wasn't able to work out a trade. I think the pick at 4 is a 3 man race between Thomas,Little, and LeShoure depending on format and roster but hey that's my opinion. A lot of people don't wait on guys and Williams will be in a 3 RBBC why spend a high pick on him when he will come cheap mid to late in the season.

 

[Team Legacy]

I'm still shocked some are not buying him as the undisputed #4 rookie pick. In the recent FFPC $1,250 Dynasty I landed him at 6 and was floored!

Let's get the scouts in here... Where's the love??? At 5-9, 212 pounds, the 38th pick in the draft, the Cardinals reportedly had Williams rated as one of the top 15 players in the draft. He's got the speed to take it to the house and he grades out well receiving the ball. He had his fair share of injury issues (hammy) last year, but he plays through them. I like this kid for alot of reasons, but I think what most stands out is how he played through the pain last year. You have to literally pull this kid out of the game because he ain't comin' out on his own. I fully expect him to be a game one starter if they can get into camp and learn the pass protection, that he admittedly struggled with at VT, but generally speaking, running backs don't need alot of time to adjust to the pro level. AZ has been really bad on the ground and was 32nd in the league on the ground last year, so it's a major area of focus for the coaching staff this season in an effort to take the game out of the QB's hands, but if Hightower can average 4.8 YPC, then just think what Williams will do.

5.6 YPC with 290+ carries, 1600+ yards and 21 TDs as a FRESHAM at VT. A 40inch vertical... turn down your audio due to the profanity but the tape speaks for itself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGAQP1Rwsus&feature=related

You will not regret naming drafting Ryan Williams and naming your team The Ryan Williams Experience!

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lol, Sorry it was taken that way, actually thought about that. I stated that only to give players who are interested the added value of knowing that certain high stakes players are letting this guy slip. For the benefit of those who are curious, here was the top 10, and it will shock you: 1. AJ Green

2. M Ingram

3. J Jones

4. G Little

5. J Baldwin - Highest I've seen!

6. R Williams

7. M Leshoure

8. D Thomas

9. S Vereen

10. T Smith

 

[thriftyrocker]

1. AJ Green2. M Ingram3. J Jones4. G Little5. J Baldwin - Highest I've seen!6. R Williams7. M Leshoure8. D Thomas9. S Vereen10. T Smith

Fact he was still the 2nd RB taken makes this a lot less controversial. Taking Baldwin over him is the only surprise, really, depending on format.

 

[Sweet Love]

Scott..Not much love is due to a bad O-Line and a QB situation that will be a sore spot for 2-3 years minimum. He is very talented but will also have to deal with competition on the roster as well. I like him, don't like his situation too much.

Let's assume that the Cardinals land Hasselback or Kolb. Then what? In 2009 with good QB play, Hightower was a top 10 back for most of the season. I think Williams will have little problem looking better than Hightower.

I see your point, but he also has to beat out Wells. Sure he has underwhelmed, but not only are there a lot decent guys to get by, his coach could be playing for his job this year...that may be extreme (although if they do not make the playoffs in 2011, I would say 2012 is a prove it, or lose it year), but the expectations are there in a wickedly weak division. When you have two other young RBs on the roster, you are not going to force your hand with a guy like Williams. There have been countless times where a first rounder was coddled in year one due to the need to win now...or just because his talent does not outweigh the adjustment period.

 

[Multiple Scores]

How is Williams ball security? Is he the back that had no fumbles in this draft? If you fumble in Arizona you go to the bench.

 

[Hoosier16]

Carter: I really, really liked what I saw here. Obviously lacks a top gear as well, so likely not any better than Williams, but considering his far superior qb and oline, and weaker competition, and lower adp, I think he could be great value at rb in this draft. He runs low, good vision, and has good power as well.

Did you watch the Colts at all last year?

 

[Team Legacy]

How is Williams ball security? Is he the back that had no fumbles in this draft? If you fumble in Arizona you go to the bench.

Here's something I found from rotoworld:Oddly enough, coach Ken Whisenhunt cited fumbles as a primary motive for selecting Ryan Williams in the second round Friday night. Whiz insists Williams hasn't fumbled in two years while Tim Hightower has a penchant for losing the ball in key situations and Beanie Wells can't stay healthy and effective. "To be quite honest with you, we're looking at number 38 and we got the 15th-ranked player on our board staring us back in the face," Whisenhunt said of the Williams pick. "He brings a lot of things to the table as a running back that are pretty unique -- size, speed, the way he runs." Apr 30, 2:01 AM

I do recall Williams fumbling at a key point in a game his freshman year. (I will research this) Honestly though, does it really matter what us the fantasy prognosticators think? The coaching staff is in love with this kid, they admittedly have him at #15 overall. That ranking says they believe he's a special back capable of making an immediate impact. That in of itself says everything you need to know about the workload they plan on giving this kid. They have a new toy and they will not just keep him in the garage for more of the same from Beanie and Hightower.

I think the plan to get the ground game going is key here. With a QB added, to help Fitz and others stretch the field, worse case scenario is a Jahvid Best situation IMO, where Williams supplants Hightower and eats significantly into Wells carries. Either way, I'm confident with what I've seen of these three backs that Williams will have the most touches of any back on the roster, again, just from my observational perspective of what these backs bring to the table.

 

[jacobo_moses]

I'm not as high on Ryan Williams as some of the experts. But he does have some upside and is still really young. I'm in a 32 team dynasty IDP league. And the only RB on my roster was Beanie Wells I did in a trade. I had picks 2 and 10. I drafted Ingram at the 2 and was worried that Ryan Williams wouldn't be there at the 10 spot. But because of 2 or 3 QB's going in the top 10. Ryan Williams was there. Needless to say I was excited to have him fall to my lap there at the no 10 spot.

I think Football guys has Ryan Williams as a no 17 ranked Dynasty RB. I won't go so far to say that. I mean he only had 1 stellar season at V.Tech. (his Freshmen year.) But I think Ryan Williams is a RB3/RB2 upside depending on the size of your league as long as they get a QB like Hasselback or Kolb and as long as the O-line is upgraded or pulls there heads out and improves this season. Just my 2 cents.

 

[johnadams]

Scott..

Not much love is due to a bad O-Line and a QB situation that will be a sore spot for 2-3 years minimum. He is very talented but will also have to deal with competition on the roster as well. I like him, don't like his situation too much.

Let's assume that the Cardinals land Hasselback or Kolb. Then what? In 2009 with good QB play, Hightower was a top 10 back for most of the season. I think Williams will have little problem looking better than Hightower.

Problem is that you can't treat the bolded as a certainty at this point. I'd draft him considering that the potential is there for improved QB play, but by no means would I treat it as a certainty. For the record, I'm inclined to agree that Williams shoud be 1.04 in most, including PPR, formats, but I'm far from sold.

 

[Team Legacy]

The Ryan Williams Experience = Power

 

[Team Legacy]

The Ryan Willims Experience = Big Plays

 

[Invictus~Bronte]

Scott..

I'm getting the impression you're pumping up his trade value in the 1250 perhaps

Otherwise you have some real man love going on..It's touching

 

[Team Legacy]

The Ryan Williams Experience = Moves

Juke move freezes 2 Miami Defenders for a 40 yard gain.

 

[NorrisB]

Beanie Wells starts the season as starter. Beanie ends the season as starter and the bulk of the carries.



on IR with a broken shoelace

 

[BigTex]

I'm with TL, Williams=Gold

 

[Scooby1974]

How is Williams ball security? Is he the back that had no fumbles in this draft? If you fumble in Arizona you go to the bench.

Here's something I found from rotoworld:Oddly enough, coach Ken Whisenhunt cited fumbles as a primary motive for selecting Ryan Williams in the second round Friday night. Whiz insists Williams hasn't fumbled in two years while Tim Hightower has a penchant for losing the ball in key situations and Beanie Wells can't stay healthy and effective. "To be quite honest with you, we're looking at number 38 and we got the 15th-ranked player on our board staring us back in the face," Whisenhunt said of the Williams pick. "He brings a lot of things to the table as a running back that are pretty unique -- size, speed, the way he runs." Apr 30, 2:01 AM

I do recall Williams fumbling at a key point in a game his freshman year. (I will research this) Honestly though, does it really matter what us the fantasy prognosticators think? The coaching staff is in love with this kid, they admittedly have him at #15 overall. That ranking says they believe he's a special back capable of making an immediate impact. That in of itself says everything you need to know about the workload they plan on giving this kid. They have a new toy and they will not just keep him in the garage for more of the same from Beanie and Hightower.

I think the plan to get the ground game going is key here. With a QB added, to help Fitz and others stretch the field, worse case scenario is a Jahvid Best situation IMO, where Williams supplants Hightower and eats significantly into Wells carries. Either way, I'm confident with what I've seen of these three backs that Williams will have the most touches of any back on the roster, again, just from my observational perspective of what these backs bring to the table.

I think with a "With a QB added" (assuming it's a good one) we will see Beanie do much better as well. Last year nobody had to worry about the passing game and could stack the box. With an actual NFL QB (again, assuming here) defenses will have to cover Fitz and Co. Both Williams and Beanie have gotten hurt, Williams in college, and Beanie in the Pros. I just don't see Williams running away with this job. There is personality involved here with Wisenhunt too...but if Beanie comes in and performs, the water will be under the bridge so to speak and we'll likely see a 2 headed monster ala Delo/Stewart---minus the solid o-line, elite talent, and breakaway speed.

 

[steelcityman]

If they get Kolb, they are going to throw, a lot. Larry might get 120 recs.

 

[finito]

I'm on board with Williams. Not sure how it'll break down this year but I think long term he will be a very good rb.

 

[kutta]

Here are some concerns:

1. Beanie and Hightower - Williams will enter camp as the third RB on the roster. Hightower is a RFA now, but who knows what that will mean after the new labor deal. I believe the Cards did extend him a tender. Assuming Hightower is not back with AZ (though I have no reason to believe that) the best case is Williams splitting time with Beanie. The worst case is that there are 3 RB's all fighting for time.

2. Wiz does not play rookies very much and makes them earn their playing time. Sure, you are in a dynasty so you have time. But I would not expect Williams to come in and start day 1. In fact, I say there is no way that happens. Beanie will start, and if he does well, Williams will not see much time.

3. Wiz does not accept poor pass protection. That's one reason why Hightower got so much playing time. He was good in pass protection. If Williams struggles there, he will not see much time.

4. The Cards are notoriously horrible at running the ball. I'm not sure why you listed that as a positive. It just doesn't matter who the coach is, or who the RB is, the culture in AZ is not one of successful running. Even if they make HUGE improvements (with basically the same coaches and the same line) you are still looking at a RB on a middle of the road running team who is the 3rd stringer, maybe 2nd stringer. That's not something to get too excited about.

My opinion is that long-term, he might pan out in a dynasty. I think short term, with all the turmoil surrounding the Cards offense, he is a big risk and my expectations are pretty low for the next year or two.

 

[Clifford]

Carter: I really, really liked what I saw here. Obviously lacks a top gear as well, so likely not any better than Williams, but considering his far superior qb and oline, and weaker competition, and lower adp, I think he could be great value at rb in this draft. He runs low, good vision, and has good power as well.

Did you watch the Colts at all last year?

Honestly no, not much. Shadows of their former selves? Worse than zona?

 

[Hoosier16]

Carter: I really, really liked what I saw here. Obviously lacks a top gear as well, so likely not any better than Williams, but considering his far superior qb and oline, and weaker competition, and lower adp, I think he could be great value at rb in this draft. He runs low, good vision, and has good power as well.

Did you watch the Colts at all last year?

Honestly no, not much. Shadows of their former selves? Worse than zona?

Yes, at least for run blocking. Terrible actually. People picked on Brown a lot for not being able to run up the middle but there were never any holes created by the line. The Colts used their first 2 picks in the draft on linemen so hopefully that improves.

 

[purplejesus28]

Carter: I really, really liked what I saw here. Obviously lacks a top gear as well, so likely not any better than Williams, but considering his far superior qb and oline, and weaker competition, and lower adp, I think he could be great value at rb in this draft. He runs low, good vision, and has good power as well.

Did you watch the Colts at all last year?

Honestly no, not much. Shadows of their former selves? Worse than zona?

Yes, at least for run blocking. Terrible actually. People picked on Brown a lot for not being able to run up the middle but there were never any holes created by the line. The Colts used their first 2 picks in the draft on linemen so hopefully that improves.

The Colts have been much better at pass blocking than run blocking going back to Edge's last couple of years there. A HOF quarterback and gawdy passing numbers have helped mask the fact they haven't been able to run block for a while. They have had some good rushing totals in that span, but more because of the fear of pass than the guys up front moving people.

 

[daveR]

Scott..

Not much love is due to a bad O-Line and a QB situation that will be a sore spot for 2-3 years minimum. He is very talented but will also have to deal with competition on the roster as well. I like him, don't like his situation too much.

Let's assume that the Cardinals land Hasselback or Kolb. Then what? In 2009 with good QB play, Hightower was a top 10 back for most of the season. I think Williams will have little problem looking better than Hightower.

Problem is that you can't treat the bolded as a certainty at this point. I'd draft him considering that the potential is there for improved QB play, but by no means would I treat it as a certainty. For the record, I'm inclined to agree that Williams shoud be 1.04 in most, including PPR, formats, but I'm far from sold.

I hear that Philly would like to add a back-up RB. What's the chances it turns out to be Wells?

 

[Zimm]

Scott..

Not much love is due to a bad O-Line and a QB situation that will be a sore spot for 2-3 years minimum. He is very talented but will also have to deal with competition on the roster as well. I like him, don't like his situation too much.

Let's assume that the Cardinals land Hasselback or Kolb. Then what? In 2009 with good QB play, Hightower was a top 10 back for most of the season. I think Williams will have little problem looking better than Hightower.

Problem is that you can't treat the bolded as a certainty at this point. I'd draft him considering that the potential is there for improved QB play, but by no means would I treat it as a certainty. For the record, I'm inclined to agree that Williams shoud be 1.04 in most, including PPR, formats, but I'm far from sold.

I hear that Philly would like to add a back-up RB. What's the chances it turns out to be Wells?

There is a 0% chance that Beanie would end up in Philly. If you recall in 2009 the Eagles didn't even work out Wells because he wasn't a fit for that offense because he provides no ability to catch out of the back field. Hightower on the other hand would make sense in a Kolb deal.

 

[mjr]

I landed the 1.04 rookie draft pick this year after taking over a team and had a little bit of a struggle on who to pick here. I ended up passing on Williams because his performance just doesn't make sense to me. If he had 4.2/4.3 40 kind of speed, 1600+ rushing and 21 TDs during his freshman year could make some sense in my head. But the guy put up a 4.62 at the combine. If he had a monster build or had a MJD-like low center of gravity and was truly tough to bring down, it could make some sort of sense. But the guy is 5'10" and 210-215? How does a back with below average speed and ho-hum size put up eye-popping stats on the ground like that? Just doesn't add up.

Maybe in 2 or 3 years I'll kick myself for passing on him, but I doubt it.

 

[eakfootball]

I like Williams and think he is fairly valued in dynasty, and very undervalued in redraft.

 

[trader jake]

I landed the 1.04 rookie draft pick this year after taking over a team and had a little bit of a struggle on who to pick here. I ended up passing on Williams because his performance just doesn't make sense to me. If he had 4.2/4.3 40 kind of speed, 1600+ rushing and 21 TDs during his freshman year could make some sense in my head. But the guy put up a 4.62 at the combine. If he had a monster build or had a MJD-like low center of gravity and was truly tough to bring down, it could make some sort of sense. But the guy is 5'10" and 210-215? How does a back with below average speed and ho-hum size put up eye-popping stats on the ground like that? Just doesn't add up. Maybe in 2 or 3 years I'll kick myself for passing on him, but I doubt it.

Who was off the board and who did you elect to take? What made you take that player over Williams?

I like Williams and think he is fairly valued in dynasty, and very undervalued in redraft.

Because you feel Wells stinks and won't take away as many carries this season as others expect? Or some other reason?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I'm with TL, Williams=Gold

Just like Spiller=Gold?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Carter: I really, really liked what I saw here. Obviously lacks a top gear as well, so likely not any better than Williams, but considering his far superior qb and oline, and weaker competition, and lower adp, I think he could be great value at rb in this draft. He runs low, good vision, and has good power as well.

Did you watch the Colts at all last year?

Honestly no, not much. Shadows of their former selves? Worse than zona?

Yes, at least for run blocking. Terrible actually. People picked on Brown a lot for not being able to run up the middle but there were never any holes created by the line. The Colts used their first 2 picks in the draft on linemen so hopefully that improves.

I predict the Colts run blocking will be much improved this year with the additions they've made on the OL.

 

[BigTex]

I'm with TL, Williams=Gold

Just like Spiller=Gold?

Don't be a hater bro. Not Spiller's fault his coaches are clueless and on another note Mathews stunk up SD but let's stay on topic please.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I'm with TL, Williams=Gold

Just like Spiller=Gold?

Don't be a hater bro. Not Spiller's fault his coaches are clueless and on another note Mathews stunk up SD but let's stay on topic please.

Spiller 3.8 ypc and 400 total yardsMathews 4.3 ypc and 800 total yardsRyan Williams is overrated. People haven't pointed out his strengths yet in here- balance and vision. Williams has good balance and vision. However, he doesn't have great athletic ability and is like Moreno.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Beanie Wells starts the season as starter. Beanie ends the season as starter and the bulk of the carries.

Wells is a great buy low

 

[mjr]

Who was off the board and who did you elect to take? What made you take that player over Williams?

I took Ingram first overall, AJ and Julio went off the board, and then I decided to go with Thomas at 1.04. With Addai being the #1 RB on this team I had taken over, I wanted guys I thought had a better chance at starting sooner rather than later. I don't think Thomas is all that special, but if he can pan out as a #2, I'm happy, and I think he can do that in Miami. With Williams, I have no idea what to expect.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I watched Williams run quite a bit this past year and I don't think I've ever been less impressed with someone that I had heard so many good things about. I know he dealth with a lot of injury issues last year, when did they start? Was it in the preseason? Because I remember watching VT play in week 1 of last season and thinking "really, this is the guy that people have been talking about as a future high FF draft pick?"

 

[moderated]

I watched Williams run quite a bit this past year and I don't think I've ever been less impressed with someone that I had heard so many good things about. I know he dealth with a lot of injury issues last year, when did they start? Was it in the preseason? Because I remember watching VT play in week 1 of last season and thinking "really, this is the guy that people have been talking about as a future high FF draft pick?"

He's tough to judge due to only one year of college production but looked amazing in 2009.Last year he had a bad hamstring and that is a brutal injury for a rb as it zaps explosiveness and makes a rb play timid in fear of hurting it more. It's similar to a high ankle sprain in that they can play but not at anywhere near their full potential.Williams has all the tools when healthy to be a dynamic rb. He didn't have an injury history dating back to high school so if his hammy is an isolated incident then he should be a very solid rb in the NFL.

 

[Team Legacy]

I watched Williams run quite a bit this past year and I don't think I've ever been less impressed with someone that I had heard so many good things about. I know he dealth with a lot of injury issues last year, when did they start? Was it in the preseason? Because I remember watching VT play in week 1 of last season and thinking "really, this is the guy that people have been talking about as a future high FF draft pick?"

He's tough to judge due to only one year of college production but looked amazing in 2009.Last year he had a bad hamstring and that is a brutal injury for a rb as it zaps explosiveness and makes a rb play timid in fear of hurting it more. It's similar to a high ankle sprain in that they can play but not at anywhere near their full potential.Williams has all the tools when healthy to be a dynamic rb. He didn't have an injury history dating back to high school so if his hammy is an isolated incident then he should be a very solid rb in the NFL.

Everything here is spot on. The other concern is that it seems to me the hammies flare up on these guys. I'm not one to let injury risk affect my rankings. Williams has offensive rookie of the year potential and it skyrockets with a Wells trade which I've heard whispered on these boards. Remember, no matter what we think, the coaches feel they have their man.

 

[Captain Hook]

I watched Williams run quite a bit this past year and I don't think I've ever been less impressed with someone that I had heard so many good things about. I know he dealth with a lot of injury issues last year, when did they start? Was it in the preseason? Because I remember watching VT play in week 1 of last season and thinking "really, this is the guy that people have been talking about as a future high FF draft pick?"

He's tough to judge due to only one year of college production but looked amazing in 2009.Last year he had a bad hamstring and that is a brutal injury for a rb as it zaps explosiveness and makes a rb play timid in fear of hurting it more. It's similar to a high ankle sprain in that they can play but not at anywhere near their full potential.

Williams has all the tools when healthy to be a dynamic rb. He didn't have an injury history dating back to high school so if his hammy is an isolated incident then he should be a very solid rb in the NFL.

Everything here is spot on. The other concern is that it seems to me the hammies flare up on these guys. I'm not one to let injury risk affect my rankings. Williams has offensive rookie of the year potential and it skyrockets with a Wells trade which I've heard whispered on these boards. Remember, no matter what we think, the coaches feel they have their man.

TL - Do you still think they will "feel they have their man" if a labor agreement is not signed soon? With much less time than normal to learn the playbook and pass protection schemes I think rookies will take much longer this year to make an impact on the field.

 

[Team Legacy]

I watched Williams run quite a bit this past year and I don't think I've ever been less impressed with someone that I had heard so many good things about. I know he dealth with a lot of injury issues last year, when did they start? Was it in the preseason? Because I remember watching VT play in week 1 of last season and thinking "really, this is the guy that people have been talking about as a future high FF draft pick?"

He's tough to judge due to only one year of college production but looked amazing in 2009.Last year he had a bad hamstring and that is a brutal injury for a rb as it zaps explosiveness and makes a rb play timid in fear of hurting it more. It's similar to a high ankle sprain in that they can play but not at anywhere near their full potential.

Williams has all the tools when healthy to be a dynamic rb. He didn't have an injury history dating back to high school so if his hammy is an isolated incident then he should be a very solid rb in the NFL.

Everything here is spot on. The other concern is that it seems to me the hammies flare up on these guys. I'm not one to let injury risk affect my rankings. Williams has offensive rookie of the year potential and it skyrockets with a Wells trade which I've heard whispered on these boards. Remember, no matter what we think, the coaches feel they have their man.

TL - Do you still think they will "feel they have their man" if a labor agreement is not signed soon? With much less time than normal to learn the playbook and pass protection schemes I think rookies will take much longer this year to make an impact on the field.

Sure do bud, but I'm talking offensive rookie of the year, and RB is by far the easiest spot to make those strides. Wells or Hightower will remain a complimentary back to Williams all season, but my gut tells me they're handing him the keys to the ground game. His past showed us all what he's capable of. Backs get dinged up so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt with what we saw last year as the 09 season was jaw dropping.

 

[Multiple Scores]

I liked Wells coming out of college more than Williams. Wells was not handed the keys so to speak, not sure why you feel Williams will, surely it can't be anything the coaching staff has said. Jaw dropping plays are nice but if players got the keys based on jaw dropping plays then Noel Devine would have been offered the keys long before Williams.

I watched Williams run quite a bit this past year and I don't think I've ever been less impressed with someone that I had heard so many good things about. I know he dealth with a lot of injury issues last year, when did they start? Was it in the preseason? Because I remember watching VT play in week 1 of last season and thinking "really, this is the guy that people have been talking about as a future high FF draft pick?"

He's tough to judge due to only one year of college production but looked amazing in 2009.Last year he had a bad hamstring and that is a brutal injury for a rb as it zaps explosiveness and makes a rb play timid in fear of hurting it more. It's similar to a high ankle sprain in that they can play but not at anywhere near their full potential.

Williams has all the tools when healthy to be a dynamic rb. He didn't have an injury history dating back to high school so if his hammy is an isolated incident then he should be a very solid rb in the NFL.

Everything here is spot on. The other concern is that it seems to me the hammies flare up on these guys. I'm not one to let injury risk affect my rankings. Williams has offensive rookie of the year potential and it skyrockets with a Wells trade which I've heard whispered on these boards. Remember, no matter what we think, the coaches feel they have their man.

TL - Do you still think they will "feel they have their man" if a labor agreement is not signed soon? With much less time than normal to learn the playbook and pass protection schemes I think rookies will take much longer this year to make an impact on the field.

Sure do bud, but I'm talking offensive rookie of the year, and RB is by far the easiest spot to make those strides. Wells or Hightower will remain a complimentary back to Williams all season, but my gut tells me they're handing him the keys to the ground game. His past showed us all what he's capable of. Backs get dinged up so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt with what we saw last year as the 09 season was jaw dropping.

 

[Team Legacy]

I liked Wells coming out of college more than Williams. Wells was not handed the keys so to speak, not sure why you feel Williams will, surely it can't be anything the coaching staff has said. Jaw dropping plays are nice but if players got the keys based on jaw dropping plays then Noel Devine would have been offered the keys long before Williams.

I watched Williams run quite a bit this past year and I don't think I've ever been less impressed with someone that I had heard so many good things about. I know he dealth with a lot of injury issues last year, when did they start? Was it in the preseason? Because I remember watching VT play in week 1 of last season and thinking "really, this is the guy that people have been talking about as a future high FF draft pick?"

He's tough to judge due to only one year of college production but looked amazing in 2009.Last year he had a bad hamstring and that is a brutal injury for a rb as it zaps explosiveness and makes a rb play timid in fear of hurting it more. It's similar to a high ankle sprain in that they can play but not at anywhere near their full potential.

Williams has all the tools when healthy to be a dynamic rb. He didn't have an injury history dating back to high school so if his hammy is an isolated incident then he should be a very solid rb in the NFL.

Everything here is spot on. The other concern is that it seems to me the hammies flare up on these guys. I'm not one to let injury risk affect my rankings. Williams has offensive rookie of the year potential and it skyrockets with a Wells trade which I've heard whispered on these boards. Remember, no matter what we think, the coaches feel they have their man.

TL - Do you still think they will "feel they have their man" if a labor agreement is not signed soon? With much less time than normal to learn the playbook and pass protection schemes I think rookies will take much longer this year to make an impact on the field.

Sure do bud, but I'm talking offensive rookie of the year, and RB is by far the easiest spot to make those strides. Wells or Hightower will remain a complimentary back to Williams all season, but my gut tells me they're handing him the keys to the ground game. His past showed us all what he's capable of. Backs get dinged up so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt with what we saw last year as the 09 season was jaw dropping.

I hear your point, but Noel Devine was not #15 OVERALL on their big board, Ryan Williams is, so regardless of whether you're higher on Wells or Williams, the coaching staff is clearly sold on the kid.

 

[LHUCKS]

Better late than never...welcome to the bandwagon I started several months ago.

 

[BigTex]

Ryan Williams working out at Virginia Tech for nowBy David FawcettPublished: June 30, 2011Malik Shareef offered his client Ryan Williams different options.To stay in shape with the NFL lockout in place, Williams could go back to Florida and work out where he spent two months preparing for the NFL Combine. Or come back closer to home and train in Northern Virginia.The only option that wasn’t available to the Stonewall Jackson High School graduate was going out to Arizona and participating in any player-led workouts with the Cardinals, who selected the running back in the second round of April’s NFL Draft.Arizona players like Larry Fitzgerald and Beanie Wells extended offers to Williams to come out and train with them. But Shareef opposed that, fearing that without a contract in place, it would be too risky if Williams got hurt.As an example, Shareef cited the case of former Texas linebacker Sergio Kindle, who was a second-round pick in 2010. Kindle broke his skull after falling down some stairs. At the time that happened, he was still unsigned and ended up receiving no signing bonus and just the rookie minimum of $320,000 for one year.Williams decided to return to Virginia Tech, a place that he felt most comfortable in. And with school out, it would be quiet and devoid of distractions. Williams works out with some of Virginia Tech’s undrafted players.“There’s really no one down there so he’s rolling right along,” Shareef said. “He’s doing well.”Williams keeps in touch with Arizona players, including Fitzgerald, Wells and running back Tim Hightower. Shareef said that he might consider allowing Williams to go out to Arizona in a few weeks as the possibility of the lockout coming to end gets closer.“I know the [Cardinals] running backs coach is real excited to get him in the fold,” Shareef said.Osbourn graduate Brandon Hogan, who was taken in the fourth round by Carolina, has been working out at home. He continues to rehab his knee following surgery last December for a torn ACL.Hogan, who isn’t expected to be full strength until August 1st at the earliest, said he’s right on schedule in his rehab.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I liked Wells coming out of college more than Williams. Wells was not handed the keys so to speak, not sure why you feel Williams will, surely it can't be anything the coaching staff has said. Jaw dropping plays are nice but if players got the keys based on jaw dropping plays then Noel Devine would have been offered the keys long before Williams.

I watched Williams run quite a bit this past year and I don't think I've ever been less impressed with someone that I had heard so many good things about. I know he dealth with a lot of injury issues last year, when did they start? Was it in the preseason? Because I remember watching VT play in week 1 of last season and thinking "really, this is the guy that people have been talking about as a future high FF draft pick?"

He's tough to judge due to only one year of college production but looked amazing in 2009.Last year he had a bad hamstring and that is a brutal injury for a rb as it zaps explosiveness and makes a rb play timid in fear of hurting it more. It's similar to a high ankle sprain in that they can play but not at anywhere near their full potential.

Williams has all the tools when healthy to be a dynamic rb. He didn't have an injury history dating back to high school so if his hammy is an isolated incident then he should be a very solid rb in the NFL.

Everything here is spot on. The other concern is that it seems to me the hammies flare up on these guys. I'm not one to let injury risk affect my rankings. Williams has offensive rookie of the year potential and it skyrockets with a Wells trade which I've heard whispered on these boards. Remember, no matter what we think, the coaches feel they have their man.

TL - Do you still think they will "feel they have their man" if a labor agreement is not signed soon? With much less time than normal to learn the playbook and pass protection schemes I think rookies will take much longer this year to make an impact on the field.

Sure do bud, but I'm talking offensive rookie of the year, and RB is by far the easiest spot to make those strides. Wells or Hightower will remain a complimentary back to Williams all season, but my gut tells me they're handing him the keys to the ground game. His past showed us all what he's capable of. Backs get dinged up so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt with what we saw last year as the 09 season was jaw dropping.

I hear your point, but Noel Devine was not #15 OVERALL on their big board, Ryan Williams is, so regardless of whether you're higher on Wells or Williams, the coaching staff is clearly sold on the kid.

CJ Spiller was at least top 10 on Buffalo's board, did they hand him the keys?Did it occur to you it was maybe a value pick for Arizona? They had a higher than top 2nd round value on this kid and have had injury/fumble issues with our two other RB's...so he can give them insurance at the position.

Ryan Williams had one good year in college...that's it. A very average Darren Evans produced close to the same numbers in 2008 and just the same as Williams in 2010. Perhaps Va Tech's OL is THAT good.