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The semi-official Green Bay Packers 2011 Thread (1 Viewer)

With the NFL lockout, reportedly, making significant strides Friday, some thoughts turn to what the salary cap will look like.

ESPN’s John Clayton wrote that approximately seven teams could have some cap issues if the number is set at $120 million. (It could be as low as $117 million.)

One of those teams – the Packers.

Clayton points out the Packers would save $4.4 by cutting or trading linebacker Nick Barnett and $4.5 if tackle Mark Tauscher comes off the payroll.

“The Packers really don’t have a cap problem, particularly if they move linebacker Nick Barnett. Cutting or trading him saves the team about $4.4 million. They can save close to $4.5 million if right tackle Mark Tauscher doesn’t come back. The Packers are $62,000 under the cap.”

 
With the NFL lockout, reportedly, making significant strides Friday, some thoughts turn to what the salary cap will look like.

ESPN’s John Clayton wrote that approximately seven teams could have some cap issues if the number is set at $120 million. (It could be as low as $117 million.)

One of those teams – the Packers.

Clayton points out the Packers would save $4.4 by cutting or trading linebacker Nick Barnett and $4.5 if tackle Mark Tauscher comes off the payroll.

“The Packers really don’t have a cap problem, particularly if they move linebacker Nick Barnett. Cutting or trading him saves the team about $4.4 million. They can save close to $4.5 million if right tackle Mark Tauscher doesn’t come back. The Packers are $62,000 under the cap.”
The Pack really need to cut or trade Barnett
 
We will see how some things pan out and get restructured.

I was at one point ready for them to just cut Barnett...but have softened on that a bit.

They can't afford him though at this point...not with the contracts they will be extending in the next year or so (Raji, Matthews, Nelson, Rodgers, Sitton, Finley...) Sitton being the most important as far as the first one coming up I think.

Likely gone this year in FA

Jenkins

Jones

Colledge (though, they might be able to hold onto him for cheap, but I see them letting Lang get a crack at that...Colledge is not great by any means, but solid enough and is always available. Does not give up a lot of sacks...but struggles with strength in the run game)

Jackson - unless he just does not get any real offers and they can get him back cheaply.

Spitz

Hall

and a few other guys.

 
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Now being denied by many players including Rodgers...not sure where the first info came about the Saturday meeting or if the players are just denying it.

 
Now being denied by many players including Rodgers...not sure where the first info came about the Saturday meeting or if the players are just denying it.
Heard the same for several teams that they are secretly being told to head back to be ready when camp opens, but its being denied by everyone as apparently teams can get in trouble for this due to the current situation. Probably coaching staffs are heading this up as they need every minute they are going to have to get teams ready to play.
 
Still waiting for Illinois gov to pay up on bet

Walker delivers on Packers bet; Quinn talks tough

By Jason Stein of the Journal Sentinel

July 18, 2011

Madison - On Monday at least, bipartisanship eluded Gov. Scott Walker, though brats did not.

Keeping up his end of a bet on a Green Bay Packers game, the Republican governor delivered Wisconsin foods to a Kenosha food pantry Monday morning. But noticeably absent was the smack-talking losing party to his wager, Democratic Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn, who is now about five months late in paying up.

Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie was careful not to say that Quinn was weaseling out of anything.

"We wanted to fulfill the bet on our end," Werwie said. "Maybe it's an issue that the press can revisit in the future."

Though neglectful of his obligations to his neighbor to the north, Quinn hasn't entirely given up on foreign relations. He was scheduled to fly to Israel on Monday on a weeklong trade and goodwill mission.

Baseball season is not only in full swing, the All-Star Game is over and there's still no payout. But that didn't keep Quinn from talking tough and swearing he'd follow through.

"We'll pay the bet, and this year the Bears will beat the Packers twice and go to the conference championship and win and then hopefully win the Super Bowl," Quinn said.

"We've had enough of these cheeseheads," he added.

Walker bet on the Packers last winter in their National Football Conference championship game, while Quinn backed their opponents, the Chicago Bears, in the friendly wager.

Because the Packers won and so did Walker, Quinn was supposed to work at a food pantry while wearing a Packers jersey. If the Bears had won, Walker would have donned a Bears jersey and done the same at an Illinois food pantry. Wisconsin businesses pledged to donate food to a pantry in whichever state won.

Quinn had been scheduled to pay up on Feb. 21. But after the controversy surrounding Walker's legislation ending collective bargaining, that visit was canceled and Quinn still hasn't made another move to head north across the border.

So Walker took matters into his own hands. He visited Shalom Center, a food pantry in Kenosha, and delivered foods from Wisconsin, which included brats, cherry pies, cranberries and honey.

Walker tweeted news of the visit to supporters but at the last minute decided not to wear his own Packers jersey.

That might have looked like excessive celebration.
Just like a FIB
 
Now being denied by many players including Rodgers...not sure where the first info came about the Saturday meeting or if the players are just denying it.
Profootballtalk. :wall:
Well...Wilde of ESPN Milwaukee is standing pat that he has spoken to players and officials and they told him it went down.They might just be denying it now to keep out of trouble.Heard another "conspiracy theory" that they leaked the information of the meeting knowing a few places would pick it up and report it as a way of letting the players know to head to GB without actually calling them. Would be great if that were true.
 
Now being denied by many players including Rodgers...not sure where the first info came about the Saturday meeting or if the players are just denying it.
Profootballtalk. :wall:
Well...Wilde of ESPN Milwaukee is standing pat that he has spoken to players and officials and they told him it went down.They might just be denying it now to keep out of trouble.Heard another "conspiracy theory" that they leaked the information of the meeting knowing a few places would pick it up and report it as a way of letting the players know to head to GB without actually calling them. Would be great if that were true.
Wilde is usually pretty reliable and has good sources within the Packers organization. My guess is that the league gave permission to teams to contact players but doesn't want this public until an official announcement about an agreement is put out, probably Thursday afternoon after the owners meet.
 
Now being denied by many players including Rodgers...not sure where the first info came about the Saturday meeting or if the players are just denying it.
Profootballtalk. :wall:
Well...Wilde of ESPN Milwaukee is standing pat that he has spoken to players and officials and they told him it went down.They might just be denying it now to keep out of trouble.Heard another "conspiracy theory" that they leaked the information of the meeting knowing a few places would pick it up and report it as a way of letting the players know to head to GB without actually calling them. Would be great if that were true.
Wilde is usually pretty reliable and has good sources within the Packers organization. My guess is that the league gave permission to teams to contact players but doesn't want this public until an official announcement about an agreement is put out, probably Thursday afternoon after the owners meet.
Wilde is a joke of reporter/writer like most of the big names that cover the Packers in this state. I read their articles and have to laugh how they try to sway the public one way without giving all details or facts. Example is how the writers were slamming the Packers last year at this time for not reupping Nick Collin's contract. Every writer put a paragraph or nothing at all in regard to Packers still having control of Collins and that the CBA issues were a reason the Packers were waiting. But once a gain the writers decided to bash the front office for not spending money. These same writers have bashed Ted for years on his lack of free agency, but rarely mention that top players are kept in house and never reach free agency.Reader beware when it comes to Jason Wilde, Bob McGinn and other Wisconsin writres and how they handle the Packers. It still feels like they have an axe to grind with the front office and how they handled Brett Favre.
 
I don't see Wilde that way at all in most things.

McGinn either.

At least as far as grinding any axes over Favre.

McGinn is a very good writer...where he annoys me is his use of his so-called scouts to generally trash some players. Their opinions are usually contradictory to many other scouts but McGinn often presents them as if they are the only opinion that matters on a player.

Wilde gets annoying when he gets a bit too full of himself. But I believe he does have some solid contacts within the organization and don't think he would print something as he did here without being sure of it.

 
I don't see Wilde that way at all in most things.McGinn either.At least as far as grinding any axes over Favre.McGinn is a very good writer...where he annoys me is his use of his so-called scouts to generally trash some players. Their opinions are usually contradictory to many other scouts but McGinn often presents them as if they are the only opinion that matters on a player.Wilde gets annoying when he gets a bit too full of himself. But I believe he does have some solid contacts within the organization and don't think he would print something as he did here without being sure of it.
pretty much agree with shonuff on this issue. I think we have pretty good football coverage in this state
 
Now being denied by many players including Rodgers...not sure where the first info came about the Saturday meeting or if the players are just denying it.
Profootballtalk. :wall:
Well...Wilde of ESPN Milwaukee is standing pat that he has spoken to players and officials and they told him it went down.They might just be denying it now to keep out of trouble.Heard another "conspiracy theory" that they leaked the information of the meeting knowing a few places would pick it up and report it as a way of letting the players know to head to GB without actually calling them. Would be great if that were true.
Wilde is usually pretty reliable and has good sources within the Packers organization. My guess is that the league gave permission to teams to contact players but doesn't want this public until an official announcement about an agreement is put out, probably Thursday afternoon after the owners meet.
Wilde is a joke of reporter/writer like most of the big names that cover the Packers in this state. I read their articles and have to laugh how they try to sway the public one way without giving all details or facts. Example is how the writers were slamming the Packers last year at this time for not reupping Nick Collin's contract. Every writer put a paragraph or nothing at all in regard to Packers still having control of Collins and that the CBA issues were a reason the Packers were waiting. But once a gain the writers decided to bash the front office for not spending money. These same writers have bashed Ted for years on his lack of free agency, but rarely mention that top players are kept in house and never reach free agency.Reader beware when it comes to Jason Wilde, Bob McGinn and other Wisconsin writres and how they handle the Packers. It still feels like they have an axe to grind with the front office and how they handled Brett Favre.
Like Wilde or not, he does seem to have a pretty reliable source within the organization.
 
I passed along the projected salary cap status of each NFC North team about a week ago, but judging from your questions, you weren't quite in cap mode yet.

But on the occasion of ESPN's John Clayton publishing the projected situations of all 32 teams Wednesday, let's re-purpose our original post. (Very green of me, I know.) I'll list each of our teams followed by some notes below.

Chicago Bears: $37 million under

Detroit Lions: $16.6 million under

Green Bay Packers: $62,000 under

Minnesota Vikings: $5.1 million over

These numbers are based on a salary cap of $120 million. They do not include restricted free-agent tenders, which were made in February based on players needing six years of service to qualify for unrestricted free agency. That means the cap numbers will need to be reconciled a bit once the details of restricted free agency are worked out under the new CBA, including the exact value of tenders.

The Packers could save $4.2 million in cap space by releasing or trading linebacker Nick Barnett. And assuming right tackle Mark Tauscher doesn't return, the Packers will get back another $4.581 million, according to Clayton.

The Vikings could go a number of different directions to get create cap space. One would be releasing receiver Bernard Berrian for a $3.7 million savings, according to Clayton. Another would be negotiating long-term extensions for two prominent players with huge cap numbers. Currently, tailback Adrian Peterson counts more than $12 million against the cap and linebacker Chad Greenway -- the team's franchise player -- is expected to count more than $10 million.

There have been many reports about a so-called "floor" that teams will be required to spend to meet player payroll thresholds, an issue that seemingly would impact the Bears. But as ESPN/National Football Post analyst Andrew Brandt has reported, that floor won't be accounted for until the end of the season. So the Bears would not be required to dish out $37 million in cash during the next couple weeks. But the could capitalize on it to sign veterans to extensions during the season.

 
http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/07/20/11/Colledge-on-Packers-Its-not-my-choice/landing_packers.html?blockID=540039

Good article on Colledge...

The guy has taken a beating on message boards all over. And for a while, there was reason to it.

However, he has proven durable...and last year actually did pretty well. He is not a great run blocker, but has done well in pass protection and I don't think he would be that costly to keep.

Seems like playing just guard helped him last year.

I just question whether Lang will be any better at this point.

 
Looks as if Nick Barnett is getting cut or traded according to his Twitter profile:

Just met with Ted, Thanks for the great 8 years. Very blessed 2 be apart of such a great tradition and great fans..

Happy I was able to be here for the great xlv run... I will always keep a Special place in my heart for this team and city..

I look forward to the next jungle #Mufasa will roam... :-) let's get it

 
http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/07/20/11/Colledge-on-Packers-Its-not-my-choice/landing_packers.html?blockID=540039Good article on Colledge...The guy has taken a beating on message boards all over. And for a while, there was reason to it.However, he has proven durable...and last year actually did pretty well. He is not a great run blocker, but has done well in pass protection and I don't think he would be that costly to keep.Seems like playing just guard helped him last year.I just question whether Lang will be any better at this point.
And let's face it, this is a passing team, not a rushing team. I'd take a good pass blocker over a road grater any day of the weak. Especially with Rodgers back there. Romo got killed last season behind a behemoth line.
 
Looks as if Nick Barnett is getting cut or traded according to his Twitter profile:Just met with Ted, Thanks for the great 8 years. Very blessed 2 be apart of such a great tradition and great fans..Happy I was able to be here for the great xlv run... I will always keep a Special place in my heart for this team and city..I look forward to the next jungle #Mufasa will roam... :-) let's get it
Good for Green Bay and Nick. Looks like Ted didn't waste any time and Barnett probably appreciates them not jerking him around at all. They let him go right away and now he's going to get a good contract from some team. Good experience from both player and team in this relationship, and an amiable break up makes the organization look even more solid.Nice work Ted. All the best Nick...unless you land in the Division. :thumbup:
 
JS is reporting they are still trying to trade Nick B

Also, a list of FA signings to date

[*]South Carolina WR Tori Gurley

[*]Delaware S Anthony Bratton

[*]Utah WR Shaky Smithson

[*]Ohio State RB Brandon Saine

[*]Arizona State WR Kerry Taylor

[*]Middle Tennessee OLB Jamari Lattimore

[*]South Florida C Sampson Genus

[*]Arkansas G Ray Dominguez

[*]Youngstown St. CB Brandian Ross

More info on each is at the link.

 
Looks as if Nick Barnett is getting cut or traded according to his Twitter profile:Just met with Ted, Thanks for the great 8 years. Very blessed 2 be apart of such a great tradition and great fans..Happy I was able to be here for the great xlv run... I will always keep a Special place in my heart for this team and city..I look forward to the next jungle #Mufasa will roam... :-) let's get it
Good for Green Bay and Nick. Looks like Ted didn't waste any time and Barnett probably appreciates them not jerking him around at all. They let him go right away and now he's going to get a good contract from some team. Good experience from both player and team in this relationship, and an amiable break up makes the organization look even more solid.Nice work Ted. All the best Nick...unless you land in the Division. :thumbup:
:goodposting: Ted handled that one just right.
 
According to Jason Wilde via twitter, Grant on his way...told by team he is fine...rumors on his status can now stop.

 
Packers make a ton of money, again.

Report issued the day after the contract is signed (that's a shock)

as usual, from the Journal Sentinal

Team officials reported on Tuesday that net income for the fiscal year ending March 31 was $17.1 million, compared with $5.2 million the year before. Profit from operations totaled $12 million, up from $9.8 million.

Team revenue reached $282.6 million, a franchise record, up $24.6 million.

Mark Murphy, the franchise’s president and CEO, said the team’s Super Bowl run combined with additional revenue from Lambeau Field’s Atrium and Pro Shop helped beef up the bottom line.

Murphy said the team’s investment portfolio turned around dramatically last year after losses in the previous two years of approximately $10.2 million.

“As a result, net income was up significantly,” he said.

Player costs dipped to $158.9 million, down $1.9 million, Murphy said. But the decrease was due largely to the lockout. Normally, the Packers and other teams extend the contracts of key players in March. But this year because of the lockout, no players were extended.

 
Rodgers Man Crush Article- after all, what isn't to love?

Today, Rodgers enters his fourth season as the starter with a regular-season record of 27-20, a playoff record of 4-1 and an overall record of 31-21 (.596). In those three seasons, his ratings were 99.4 in the regular season, 112.6 in the playoffs and 100.7 overall.

 
Crosby signed for 5 years...and found this interesting in La Canfora's blog

The Bengals have expressed interest in RB Brandon Jackson, but the Packers want to keep him.
http://blogs.nfl.com/category/jason-la-canfora/?campaign=Twitter_blogsWould really muddy the waters in GB's backfield a bit more.Would they let Kuhn go (Hall is probably gone) and just keep Quinn Johnson at FB to keep 4 RBs?
If they could keep B Jackson for relatively cheap, I'd say do it. No other RB on the roster can do what he does. I'm guessing Rodgers would like to see him stick around.
 
Crosby signed for 5 years...and found this interesting in La Canfora's blog

The Bengals have expressed interest in RB Brandon Jackson, but the Packers want to keep him.
http://blogs.nfl.com/category/jason-la-canfora/?campaign=Twitter_blogsWould really muddy the waters in GB's backfield a bit more.Would they let Kuhn go (Hall is probably gone) and just keep Quinn Johnson at FB to keep 4 RBs?
If they could keep B Jackson for relatively cheap, I'd say do it. No other RB on the roster can do what he does. I'm guessing Rodgers would like to see him stick around.
Maybe they want something for him.
 
Crosby signed for 5 years...and found this interesting in La Canfora's blog

The Bengals have expressed interest in RB Brandon Jackson, but the Packers want to keep him.
http://blogs.nfl.com/category/jason-la-canfora/?campaign=Twitter_blogsWould really muddy the waters in GB's backfield a bit more.Would they let Kuhn go (Hall is probably gone) and just keep Quinn Johnson at FB to keep 4 RBs?
If they could keep B Jackson for relatively cheap, I'd say do it. No other RB on the roster can do what he does. I'm guessing Rodgers would like to see him stick around.
Maybe they want something for him.
They would have to pull a sign and trade.I think they do want to keep him...just not sure they can keep him as cheaply as they would like (and he wants a bigger role from what I have seen.
 
article on Pack WR (JSonline)

reading between the lines - is it possible Driver ends up cut?
Yesterday on twitter Jason Wilde said he had a reputable source give him a list of the cuts. He was not going to release them because not all of the players had heard yet. I found that interesting as I would figure many of the guys would already know.My thoughts went to Driver and has this conversation elsewhere.

As much as I love Driver...I think they need to keep Jones (and Rodgers comments are interesting there too) over Driver even. Just would hate to see him go that close to some Packer records and he probably has enough left in the tank for 1 or 2 years.

But I like Jones' talent over Nelson's (and Nelson is a FA next year).

Keeping Jennings, Jones, Nelson, and Cobb for a few years would be great.

also would be great to have Driver around for another year to help develop Cobb's talent as I think he fits into Driver's role very well.

 
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This years Sam Shields?

interesting blue sky gazing at the JS

The purge of undrafted free agents finally flooded the league this week. If recent history in Green Bay is any proof, these players are not always mere camp fillers. Ted Thompson has found needles in this annual haystack, the latest gem being cornerback Sam Shields.

One candidate this year? Try Utah State quarterback Diondre Borel.

Borel has experience as a traditional passer, a scrambler and could be a kick returner as evident by his 4.5 time in the 40 at his pro day. Initially, the Packers will use him as a wide receiver. Utah State offensive coordinator Dave Baldwin, who coached Drew Stanton and Brian Hoyer at Michigan State, says Borel is a special talent.

"He’s a Seneca Wallace-type athlete," Baldwin said. "He could be a fourth wideout and also still play quarterback. He could’ve been a starting wideout here but he was just our best quarterback. He can play quarterback at that level if he gets the opportunity.

“I really thought he’d be a Canadian quarterback with all the movement they do up there. That’s the type of kid he really is. This will be a good experience for him. He needs to get in a system where he can learn a lot more.”

 

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