The Tags Are Coming! The Tags Are Coming! (1 Viewer)

[Jeff Pasquino]

RB Darren Sproles, San Diego

WR Antonio Bryant, Tampa Bay

LB Terrell Suggs, Baltimore

All tagged today.

Sproles and Bryant

Suggs



Total Tagged Players:

FS O.J. Atogwe, St. Louis

RB Darren Sproles, San Diego

WR Antonio Bryant, Tampa Bay

LB Terrell Suggs, Baltimore

RB Brandon Jacobs, New York Giants

LB Karlos Dansby, Arizona

QB Matt Cassel, New England

P Michael Koenen, Atlanta

PK Shayne Graham, Cincinnati

TE Bo Scaife, Tennessee

CB Dunta Robinson, Houston

LB Leroy Hill, Seattle

DE Julius Peppers, Carolina

LT Max Starks, Pittsburgh

 

[Sinrman]

None really surprise me... wonder who's next?

 

[Max Power]

RB Darren Sproles, San Diego

WR Antonio Bryant, Tampa Bay

LB Terrell Suggs, Baltimore

All tagged today.

Sproles and Bryant

Suggs

I forgot what the deal with Suggs was. Did he want to be tagged as a DE or OLB? And how much of a difference are we talking $ wise. IIRC, he didn't want to be tagged and indicated he would be extra upset with the Ravens if they tagged him as an OLB?

 

[bcr8f]

Titans placed the non-exclusive franchise tag on K Rob Bironas.

 

[Ozymandias]

Antonio Bryant has come a long way, baby.

 

[David Yudkin]

RB Darren Sproles, San Diego

WR Antonio Bryant, Tampa Bay

LB Terrell Suggs, Baltimore

All tagged today.

Sproles and Bryant

Suggs

I forgot what the deal with Suggs was. Did he want to be tagged as a DE or OLB? And how much of a difference are we talking $ wise. IIRC, he didn't want to be tagged and indicated he would be extra upset with the Ravens if they tagged him as an OLB?

I believe the difference is $687,000.

 

[bkdphi]

So is there any particular reason why the Raiders are waiting so long to Franchise Aso? Isn't the deadline tomorrow?

 

[jeter23]

Titans placed the non-exclusive franchise tag on K Rob Bironas.

I think I read that he has already worked out a long term deal.

 

[bcr8f]

So is there any particular reason why the Raiders are waiting so long to Franchise Aso? Isn't the deadline tomorrow?

They are trying to clear enough cap room I hear before dong anything.

 

[Couch Potato]

So is there any particular reason why the Raiders are waiting so long to Franchise Aso? Isn't the deadline tomorrow?

They are trying to clear enough cap room I hear before dong anything.

Mr Davis is napping. You don't wake Mr Davis while he's napping. When he gets up, if he doesn't forget, he'll tag Aso.

 

[el centro]

Is there another thread, or a list online someone can point out that shows all Franchise & Transition tags? I've come up empty so far...

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Is there another thread, or a list online someone can point out that shows all Franchise & Transition tags? I've come up empty so far...

I'll update Post 1.

 

[Jason Wood]

Remember when the franchise tag was used to protect elite players? Wow.

 

[Bri]

Remember when the franchise tag was used to protect elite players? Wow.

yeahwhy can't they use transition or non-exclusive or whatever all the other tags are? I always forget the qualifications.is it 10 highest or 5 highest?I wonder if these one year deals are best for both sides with what might be an uncapped year coming up.

 

[Bri]

P Michael Koenen, Atlanta

was he paid as a P or K?Lechler signed biggest $ ever for a P so that'd be perfect timing to bump up that average of the top players.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

P Michael Koenen, Atlanta

was he paid as a P or K?Lechler signed biggest $ ever for a P so that'd be perfect timing to bump up that average of the top players.

P and K tag prices are lumped together (about $2.5M).

 

[David Yudkin]

P Michael Koenen, Atlanta

was he paid as a P or K?Lechler signed biggest $ ever for a P so that'd be perfect timing to bump up that average of the top players.

A non-exclusive franchise tag uses an average of the Top 5 from the previous season. So Lechler won't have any bearing on Koenen's contract. An exclusive franchise tag uses an average of the Top 5 from the current season, but that hardly ever gets used.

 

[QUEZILLA]

It seems like there are more tags this year. I'm guessing that's an indicator that teams are going to be throwing around big money in FA this year.

 

[David Yudkin]

It seems like there are more tags this year. I'm guessing that's an indicator that teams are going to be throwing around big money in FA this year.

I don't see teams going crazy beacuse of the economy and because of the lack of CBA looming. I'm not sure how that will impact the salary cap for 2009 and if teams have to do things differently accounting wise.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

new blogger says that Sciafe is going to get tagged today by tennessee

 

[Buckna]

Houston Texans - Dunta Robinson, CB

 

[QUEZILLA]

PFT is reporting a Gross deal is complete. That means Peppers is going to get tagged.

 

[massraider]

Bo Sciafe?

Dunta Robinson?

Leroy Hill?

What the heck?

 

[Gr00vus]

Remember when the franchise tag was used to protect elite players? Wow.

Seems like the recent trend has been to either rework their deals prior to expiration or let them walk because they'll cost too much to re-sign. Just curious and for the sake of an interesting discussion (not trying to bust your balls or anything), which elite players can you think of that switched teams via free agency where the original team should have franchised them?

 

[Lobary]

Peppers just got tagged, too.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Remember when the franchise tag was used to protect elite players? Wow.

Seems like the recent trend has been to either rework their deals prior to expiration or let them walk because they'll cost too much to re-sign. Just curious and for the sake of an interesting discussion (not trying to bust your balls or anything), which elite players can you think of that switched teams via free agency where the original team should have franchised them?

I believe his point was that the tag used to be used for elite "franchise" type players, now kickers and mediocre TEs are getting tagged.

 

[phillyphan07]

I believe his point was that the tag used to be used for elite "franchise" type players, now kickers and mediocre TEs are getting tagged.

It almost makes the most sense for kickers though... the top 5 avg is low, good kickers are relatively hard to come by, but even good ones can fall apart rather quickly, so why give them a bonus or lock up the cap space? And most kickers probably won't even be mad about it....

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Remember when the franchise tag was used to protect elite players? Wow.

Seems like the recent trend has been to either rework their deals prior to expiration or let them walk because they'll cost too much to re-sign. Just curious and for the sake of an interesting discussion (not trying to bust your balls or anything), which elite players can you think of that switched teams via free agency where the original team should have franchised them?

I believe his point was that the tag used to be used for elite "franchise" type players, now kickers and mediocre TEs are getting tagged.

its a player you dont want to lose to FA tag.

 

[gianmarco]

And most kickers probably won't even be mad about it....

Best point of the thread.

 

[eric rymer]

no tag for Aso

link

 

[jaybebo]

Peppers just got tagged, too.

He already stated he will sit out training camp and most of the year if this happened...Carolina will need to trade him to make him happy.

 

[jaybebo]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

 

[the_sig]

Titans placed the non-exclusive franchise tag on TE Bo Scaife.

 

[eric rymer]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

He did resign.

 

[QUEZILLA]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

He did resign.

Haynesworth is going to get a $50 mil contract imo.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

He did resign.

Haynesworth is going to get a $50 mil contract imo.

wonder if he'd play for schwatrz for that amount?

 

[Buckna]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

What a crazy contract. The Raiders continue to

 

[massraider]

Peppers just got tagged, too.

He already stated he will sit out training camp and most of the year if this happened...Carolina will need to trade him to make him happy.

I wish I had a dime for every guy that said that, and didn't miss a regular season game.

 

[massraider]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

What a crazy contract. The Raiders continue to

More like:

 

[Jason Wood]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

He did resign.

Haynesworth is going to get a $50 mil contract imo.

You talking $50mm guaranteed? B/c a $50mm nominal deal would be a disappointment for the best DT on the market IMHO.

 

[Buckna]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

What a crazy contract. The Raiders continue to

More like:

It's great for them that they got to keep him, but that thing is bizarre.

The first two years, worth $28.5 million, are fully guaranteed. In the third year of the contract, if Oakland wants to keep Asomugha, it must pay him the average of the top five highest-paid quarterbacks (not to be confused with cornerbacks) or $16.875 million — whichever is greater. If the Raiders fail to pick up the option, Asomugha will become a free agent, with Oakland not having the ability to tag him again.

Edit: It would have been cheaper to just Franchise him every year for the next 3 years.

 

[massraider]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

What a crazy contract. The Raiders continue to

More like:

It's great for them that they got to keep him, but that thing is bizarre.

The first two years, worth $28.5 million, are fully guaranteed. In the third year of the contract, if Oakland wants to keep Asomugha, it must pay him the average of the top five highest-paid quarterbacks (not to be confused with cornerbacks) or $16.875 million — whichever is greater. If the Raiders fail to pick up the option, Asomugha will become a free agent, with Oakland not having the ability to tag him again.

Simply put, Aso is giving the Raiders an extra year to work out a deal with him, and prove to him they are going in the right direction. I don't think anyone thinks the the option will be picked up.

 

[Buckna]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

What a crazy contract. The Raiders continue to

More like: :X

It's great for them that they got to keep him, but that thing is bizarre.

The first two years, worth $28.5 million, are fully guaranteed. In the third year of the contract, if Oakland wants to keep Asomugha, it must pay him the average of the top five highest-paid quarterbacks (not to be confused with cornerbacks) or $16.875 million — whichever is greater. If the Raiders fail to pick up the option, Asomugha will become a free agent, with Oakland not having the ability to tag him again.

Simply put, Aso is giving the Raiders an extra year to work out a deal with him, and prove to him they are going in the right direction. I don't think anyone thinks the the option will be picked up.

I certainly understand why Aso would agree to this, but why wouldn't the Raiders just franchise him, pay $10M this year and if they want, 20% more on top of that next year?

 

[massraider]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

What a crazy contract. The Raiders continue to

More like:

It's great for them that they got to keep him, but that thing is bizarre.

The first two years, worth $28.5 million, are fully guaranteed. In the third year of the contract, if Oakland wants to keep Asomugha, it must pay him the average of the top five highest-paid quarterbacks (not to be confused with cornerbacks) or $16.875 million — whichever is greater. If the Raiders fail to pick up the option, Asomugha will become a free agent, with Oakland not having the ability to tag him again.

Simply put, Aso is giving the Raiders an extra year to work out a deal with him, and prove to him they are going in the right direction. I don't think anyone thinks the the option will be picked up.

I certainly understand why Aso would agree to this, but why wouldn't the Raiders just franchise him, pay $10M this year and if they want, 20% more on top of that next year?

They already franchised him once, can't do it three years in a row (IIRC).

 

[One]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

What a crazy contract. The Raiders continue to

More like:

It's great for them that they got to keep him, but that thing is bizarre.

The first two years, worth $28.5 million, are fully guaranteed. In the third year of the contract, if Oakland wants to keep Asomugha, it must pay him the average of the top five highest-paid quarterbacks (not to be confused with cornerbacks) or $16.875 million — whichever is greater. If the Raiders fail to pick up the option, Asomugha will become a free agent, with Oakland not having the ability to tag him again.

Simply put, Aso is giving the Raiders an extra year to work out a deal with him, and prove to him they are going in the right direction. I don't think anyone thinks the the option will be picked up.

I certainly understand why Aso would agree to this, but why wouldn't the Raiders just franchise him, pay $10M this year and if they want, 20% more on top of that next year?

They already franchised him once, can't do it three years in a row (IIRC).

That's correct. He could have walked after next year.

 

[ReggieHammond]

no tag for Aso

link

I thought he re-signed.

What a crazy contract. The Raiders continue to

More like:

It's great for them that they got to keep him, but that thing is bizarre.

The first two years, worth $28.5 million, are fully guaranteed. In the third year of the contract, if Oakland wants to keep Asomugha, it must pay him the average of the top five highest-paid quarterbacks (not to be confused with cornerbacks) or $16.875 million — whichever is greater. If the Raiders fail to pick up the option, Asomugha will become a free agent, with Oakland not having the ability to tag him again.

Simply put, Aso is giving the Raiders an extra year to work out a deal with him, and prove to him they are going in the right direction. I don't think anyone thinks the the option will be picked up.

I certainly understand why Aso would agree to this, but why wouldn't the Raiders just franchise him, pay $10M this year and if they want, 20% more on top of that next year?

They already franchised him once, can't do it three years in a row (IIRC).

That's correct. He could have walked after next year.

Walter Jones was tagged 3 years in a row, 02, 03 & 04. I don't think there is any limit on how many years in a row someone can be tagged.

 

[Bojang0301]

Think the tags are gonna be around after the next collective bargaining... cause I highly doubt it if the owners still want the cap in place. Any thoughts?

 

[Pat Patriot]

I believe his point was that the tag used to be used for elite "franchise" type players, now kickers and mediocre TEs are getting tagged.

It almost makes the most sense for kickers though... the top 5 avg is low, good kickers are relatively hard to come by, but even good ones can fall apart rather quickly, so why give them a bonus or lock up the cap space? And most kickers probably won't even be mad about it....

Tell that to Adam Vinatieri. I agree with everything you said. It makes sense to keep kickers on 1 year deals. The Pats were franchising Vinatieri which means the first tag was the top 5 average and then he got 20% salary bumps each subsequent tag. Was he satisfied? NO.

 

[Pat Patriot]

How is it possilbe that Peppers franchise tag # is $16.6 million when the QB tag as per Matt Cassel is only $14.6 million.

 

[Tyrion]

How is it possilbe that Peppers franchise tag # is $16.6 million when the QB tag as per Matt Cassel is only $14.6 million.

If I remember correctly,I think it is because his salary last season was already the highest paid in the league for that position. When that happens the player gets a 20% bump on his salary.