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The Top 164 (166) Movies of the 21st Century. On to the TOP 10!! (3 Viewers)

I just wanted to give The Cooler (2003) an honorable mention. I'm always a sucker for Vegas movies and this one kept my interest. Excellent casting with William H Macy playing the perpetual loser and Alec Baldwin playing Alec Baldwin. 🎲 🎲
I love this movie too. It should have made my top 100.

H. Macy and Baldwin were very good but this is Maria Bello’s best performance that I’ve seen. She is great in this film.

A History of Violence good too
Eastern Promises rates higher on the Dongometer.
Oh man those run together for me

Promises is the naked bathhouse fight and violence is the one where viggo goes down on Maria Bello in her raggedy old cheerleader outfit?
 
I just wanted to give The Cooler (2003) an honorable mention. I'm always a sucker for Vegas movies and this one kept my interest. Excellent casting with William H Macy playing the perpetual loser and Alec Baldwin playing Alec Baldwin. 🎲 🎲
I love this movie too. It should have made my top 100.

H. Macy and Baldwin were very good but this is Maria Bello’s best performance that I’ve seen. She is great in this film.

A History of Violence good too
Eastern Promises rates higher on the Dongometer.
Oh man those run together for me

Promises is the naked bathhouse fight and violence is the one where viggo goes down on Maria Bello in her raggedy old cheerleader outfit?
Correct
 
I feel like if I did this I would have both Margin Call and Big Short in my top 30 and maybe 20. Two fantastic pieces of acting and writing that are a blend of comedy, documentary and horror.
Big Short was great. It explains the recession so well and makes it fun. That is quite a feat. Was in consideration for me.
 
If I did a 2000-2010 I'd likely put Shattered Glass
I don't know if I could do that one. Hayden Christensen? That's a tough sell for me.
I thought the same the other day when somebody recommended a horror movie with him in it - Awake. I try to remind myself that I liked him in Life as a House and others instead of thinking about the Star Wars prequels (don't think you've seen those, anyway).
 
If I did a 2000-2010 I'd likely put Shattered Glass

Oh my did I have a long, involved post but this is a fun thread for llov and KP to talk about film. I'd forgotten this existed. I will say that this event might have been the most important event in domestic politics of the past thirty years and I think I can defend that claim against the charge of hyperbole quite well, actually. I think it and believe that claim, anyway.

I'll have to check it out. I mean, I'd really forgotten they made it into a movie. This was an utterly seismic event in my little world in '98 and '99 and I don't think the average American citizen is aware of exactly how this event completely changed everything about our entire world and is likely the moment one can point to as a tangible realization or cause of our entire political media landscape and how it changed into the one we have today. Crazy in retrospect to think about.
 
Can't wait to hear your thoughts @rockaction

Thanks, BP. I appreciate that. I think the guy that wrote the script, Buzz Bissinger, is a fascinating guy. I can almost guarantee you our politics differ, but he's an old school journalist that I have a ton of respect for. He wrote the book Friday Night Lights and also went on this television show with Will Leitch way back in the early aughts (Leitch had founded Deadspin and Gawker) and he expressed, though maybe not as eloquently or dispassionately as I would have liked, his problem with those media companies. Maybe I can find clips but I remember completely agreeing and feeling gratified by it even if I was very disappointed that his case was emotional rather than airtight. But he's simpatico with me for the most part. I'll be interested to see how he handles the subject matter.
 
If I did a 2000-2010 I'd likely put Shattered Glass

Oh my did I have a long, involved post but this is a fun thread for llov and KP to talk about film. I'd forgotten this existed. I will say that this event might have been the most important event in domestic politics of the past thirty years and I think I can defend that claim against the charge of hyperbole quite well, actually. I think it and believe that claim, anyway.

I'll have to check it out. I mean, I'd really forgotten they made it into a movie. This was an utterly seismic event in my little world in '98 and '99 and I don't think the average American citizen is aware of exactly how this event completely changed everything about our entire world and is likely the moment one can point to as a tangible realization or cause of our entire political media landscape and how it changed into the one we have today. Crazy in retrospect to think about.
I’m curious about your further thoughts on this if you want to PM me. I’m not saying you’re wrong because I actually didn’t remember this event at all. I was in high school so a journalism scandal was off my radar but I’m surprised that you think it was more impactful than say 9/11 or the Great Recession.
 
If I did a 2000-2010 I'd likely put Shattered Glass

Oh my did I have a long, involved post but this is a fun thread for llov and KP to talk about film. I'd forgotten this existed. I will say that this event might have been the most important event in domestic politics of the past thirty years and I think I can defend that claim against the charge of hyperbole quite well, actually. I think it and believe that claim, anyway.

I'll have to check it out. I mean, I'd really forgotten they made it into a movie. This was an utterly seismic event in my little world in '98 and '99 and I don't think the average American citizen is aware of exactly how this event completely changed everything about our entire world and is likely the moment one can point to as a tangible realization or cause of our entire political media landscape and how it changed into the one we have today. Crazy in retrospect to think about.
I’m curious about your further thoughts on this if you want to PM me. I’m not saying you’re wrong because I actually didn’t remember this event at all. I was in high school so a journalism scandal was off my radar but I’m surprised that you think it was more impactful than say 9/11 or the Great Recession.

Oh, 9/11 was a lot bigger, which is why I said “domestic,” but I see where saying “domestic politics” could confuse. 9/11 had a bigger effect. I should have said “domestic event.” I think the Glass thing was bigger than The Great Recession because we didn’t see any change from that. Like almost literally nothing. The government simply became big business’ expected insurer after that, but nothing structural really changed, IMO. So yeah, sometime when I’m able to make sense of what I’m thinking I will gladly PM you.
 
If I did a 2000-2010 I'd likely put Shattered Glass

Oh my did I have a long, involved post but this is a fun thread for llov and KP to talk about film. I'd forgotten this existed. I will say that this event might have been the most important event in domestic politics of the past thirty years and I think I can defend that claim against the charge of hyperbole quite well, actually. I think it and believe that claim, anyway.

I'll have to check it out. I mean, I'd really forgotten they made it into a movie. This was an utterly seismic event in my little world in '98 and '99 and I don't think the average American citizen is aware of exactly how this event completely changed everything about our entire world and is likely the moment one can point to as a tangible realization or cause of our entire political media landscape and how it changed into the one we have today. Crazy in retrospect to think about.
I’m curious about your further thoughts on this if you want to PM me. I’m not saying you’re wrong because I actually didn’t remember this event at all. I was in high school so a journalism scandal was off my radar but I’m surprised that you think it was more impactful than say 9/11 or the Great Recession.

Oh, 9/11 was a lot bigger, which is why I said “domestic,” but I see where saying “domestic politics” could confuse. 9/11 had a bigger effect. I should have said “domestic event.” I think the Glass thing was bigger than The Great Recession because we didn’t see any change from that. Like almost literally nothing. The government simply became big business’ expected insurer after that, but nothing structural really changed, IMO. So yeah, sometime when I’m able to make sense of what I’m thinking I will gladly PM you.
Ahhh yeah I was thinking domestic as in 9/11 happened here and the especially the change in domestic policies from it but I see what you mean. I thought the recession lead to a rise in populism that we really have seen play out today but I don’t want to derail this thread.
 
If I did a 2000-2010 I'd likely put Shattered Glass

Oh my did I have a long, involved post but this is a fun thread for llov and KP to talk about film. I'd forgotten this existed. I will say that this event might have been the most important event in domestic politics of the past thirty years and I think I can defend that claim against the charge of hyperbole quite well, actually. I think it and believe that claim, anyway.

I'll have to check it out. I mean, I'd really forgotten they made it into a movie. This was an utterly seismic event in my little world in '98 and '99 and I don't think the average American citizen is aware of exactly how this event completely changed everything about our entire world and is likely the moment one can point to as a tangible realization or cause of our entire political media landscape and how it changed into the one we have today. Crazy in retrospect to think about.
I’m curious about your further thoughts on this if you want to PM me. I’m not saying you’re wrong because I actually didn’t remember this event at all. I was in high school so a journalism scandal was off my radar but I’m surprised that you think it was more impactful than say 9/11 or the Great Recession.

Oh, 9/11 was a lot bigger, which is why I said “domestic,” but I see where saying “domestic politics” could confuse. 9/11 had a bigger effect. I should have said “domestic event.” I think the Glass thing was bigger than The Great Recession because we didn’t see any change from that. Like almost literally nothing. The government simply became big business’ expected insurer after that, but nothing structural really changed, IMO. So yeah, sometime when I’m able to make sense of what I’m thinking I will gladly PM you.
Ahhh yeah I was thinking domestic as in 9/11 happened here and the especially the change in domestic policies from it but I see what you mean. I thought the recession lead to a rise in populism that we really have seen play out today but I don’t want to derail this thread.
there are people that think 9/11 was an inside job...
 
If I did a 2000-2010 I'd likely put Shattered Glass

Oh my did I have a long, involved post but this is a fun thread for llov and KP to talk about film. I'd forgotten this existed. I will say that this event might have been the most important event in domestic politics of the past thirty years and I think I can defend that claim against the charge of hyperbole quite well, actually. I think it and believe that claim, anyway.

I'll have to check it out. I mean, I'd really forgotten they made it into a movie. This was an utterly seismic event in my little world in '98 and '99 and I don't think the average American citizen is aware of exactly how this event completely changed everything about our entire world and is likely the moment one can point to as a tangible realization or cause of our entire political media landscape and how it changed into the one we have today. Crazy in retrospect to think about.
I’m curious about your further thoughts on this if you want to PM me. I’m not saying you’re wrong because I actually didn’t remember this event at all. I was in high school so a journalism scandal was off my radar but I’m surprised that you think it was more impactful than say 9/11 or the Great Recession.

Oh, 9/11 was a lot bigger, which is why I said “domestic,” but I see where saying “domestic politics” could confuse. 9/11 had a bigger effect. I should have said “domestic event.” I think the Glass thing was bigger than The Great Recession because we didn’t see any change from that. Like almost literally nothing. The government simply became big business’ expected insurer after that, but nothing structural really changed, IMO. So yeah, sometime when I’m able to make sense of what I’m thinking I will gladly PM you.
Ahhh yeah I was thinking domestic as in 9/11 happened here and the especially the change in domestic policies from it but I see what you mean. I thought the recession lead to a rise in populism that we really have seen play out today but I don’t want to derail this thread.
there are people that think 9/11 was an inside job...
I am not touching that
 
#9: NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN - 150PTS

#29 on Ilov80s' list and #23 on KP's list also on @The Dreaded Marco 's list
I feel like I understand this movie, specifically Ed Tom Bell, a lot more today than I did yesterday.

Evil has an ethos - it's just one that's all its own.

"I don't know what to make of that. I sure don't. The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willing to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say, 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'"
 
#9: NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN - 150PTS

#29 on Ilov80s' list and #23 on KP's list also on @The Dreaded Marco 's list
I feel like I understand this movie, specifically Ed Tom Bell, a lot more today than I did yesterday.

Evil has an ethos - it's just one that's all its own.

"I don't know what to make of that. I sure don't. The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willing to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say, 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'"
We get reminded over and over again.
 
#43: CABIN IN THE WOODS - 86PTS




#15 on KP's list
you see, I couldn't find this one earlier since it is actually THE Cabin in the Woods. Maybe I'm just a dummy for not realizing that you didn't know the correct name of your 15th favorite movie of the past 24 years but I digress. I think it's a fun little film and the ending was neat but I don't think it would make a best of the 21st century list. I chuckled a few times.
 
Overall I saw a lot of solid choices here in the top 10 or so with one exception.
The one that stuck out to me was The Phantom Thread being there.
I'm obviously not a PTA fan but even ignoring my own opinion, I have never talked to anyone that liked this film. Even a couple friends that typically do like his films said that it was not one of his better efforts. It seemed like a ludicrous reach even for a "PTA fanboy".

OK, it's easy to criticize so what would I replace it with?
Brooklyn - Ronan's affecting period piece. If I watch 5 minutes of this film, I'm emotionally hooked into watching the rest.
or
Motherless Brooklyn - Probably not as well regarded, but I really enjoy Norton's performance, the cast, the story, etc.

But my choice is The Dry. Eric Bana stars in an Australian film that covers a set of murders in the present as well as a mysterious one in the past. It's brilliantly done and I highly recommend it to all if you haven't seen it.

Sorry for the late response, I've been out of the country on vacation.
 
#43: CABIN IN THE WOODS - 86PTS




#15 on KP's list
you see, I couldn't find this one earlier since it is actually THE Cabin in the Woods. Maybe I'm just a dummy for not realizing that you didn't know the correct name of your 15th favorite movie of the past 24 years but I digress. I think it's a fun little film and the ending was neat but I don't think it would make a best of the 21st century list. I chuckled a few times.
It would have been even higher in his rankings if Thor showed his dong.
 
Overall I saw a lot of solid choices here in the top 10 or so with one exception.
The one that stuck out to me was The Phantom Thread being there.
I'm obviously not a PTA fan but even ignoring my own opinion, I have never talked to anyone that liked this film. Even a couple friends that typically do like his films said that it was not one of his better efforts. It seemed like a ludicrous reach even for a "PTA fanboy".
I am not a PTA fan boy. Punch Drunk Love, The Master and Inherent Vice are movies I strongly dislike. I won't say they are bad but I don't get anything from watching them. Phantom Thread is a masterpiece though. Easily his funniest movie which I love. If you poke around, you will see lots of people like it and it's surging in popularity every year. There is a major rep theater in LA who has taken to showing it every NYE and I believe they sell out each time. I think it just confused people at first because it seemed so not like a PTA movie and the comedy was lost. So quotable. I acknowledge There Will Be Blood is a better movie but I like watchog The Phantom Thread way more. So rewatchable.


OK, it's easy to criticize so what would I replace it with?
Brooklyn - Ronan's affecting period piece. If I watch 5 minutes of this film, I'm emotionally hooked into watching the rest.
or
Motherless Brooklyn - Probably not as well regarded, but I really enjoy Norton's performance, the cast, the story, etc.

But my choice is The Dry. Eric Bana stars in an Australian film that covers a set of murders in the present as well as a mysterious one in the past. It's brilliantly done and I highly recommend it to all if you haven't seen it.

Sorry for the late response, I've been out of the country on vacation.
I have't seen The Dry yet or Motherless Brooklyn but I would like to. As for Brooklyn, yeah that wasn't too far from making my list. Excellent movie and a worthy choice.
 
Overall I saw a lot of solid choices here in the top 10 or so with one exception.
The one that stuck out to me was The Phantom Thread being there.
I'm obviously not a PTA fan but even ignoring my own opinion, I have never talked to anyone that liked this film. Even a couple friends that typically do like his films said that it was not one of his better efforts. It seemed like a ludicrous reach even for a "PTA fanboy".
I am not a PTA fan boy. Punch Drunk Love, The Master and Inherent Vice are movies I strongly dislike. I won't say they are bad but I don't get anything from watching them. Phantom Thread is a masterpiece though. Easily his funniest movie which I love. If you poke around, you will see lots of people like it and it's surging in popularity every year. There is a major rep theater in LA who has taken to showing it every NYE and I believe they sell out each time. I think it just confused people at first because it seemed so not like a PTA movie and the comedy was lost. So quotable. I acknowledge There Will Be Blood is a better movie but I like watchog The Phantom Thread way more. So rewatchable.


OK, it's easy to criticize so what would I replace it with?
Brooklyn - Ronan's affecting period piece. If I watch 5 minutes of this film, I'm emotionally hooked into watching the rest.
or
Motherless Brooklyn - Probably not as well regarded, but I really enjoy Norton's performance, the cast, the story, etc.

But my choice is The Dry. Eric Bana stars in an Australian film that covers a set of murders in the present as well as a mysterious one in the past. It's brilliantly done and I highly recommend it to all if you haven't seen it.

Sorry for the late response, I've been out of the country on vacation.
I have't seen The Dry yet or Motherless Brooklyn but I would like to. As for Brooklyn, yeah that wasn't too far from making my list. Excellent movie and a worthy choice.
Same here - my experience is that TWBB, Boogie, and Phantom are the ones that most people gravitate to from PTA and Licorice/Inherent/Magnolia are the more polarizing ones.

I am curious for your take and others about Inherent Vice. I watched it a couple times last week, and I am feeling like it's growing on me similar to how Lebowski did. IMO both have a similar weird, non-sensical plot line going on and both get me laughing a lot now. My opinion is that they are quite similar in feel and structure so I don't get why one is so beloved (well, besides the general feel that people prefer Coen movies overall around these parts) and one seems to be written off. Am I wrong in that assessment, and what was it that you hated so much about Inherent Vice?

I am gearing up for the new one. I fell behind in the reading I wanted to do from my PTA book, but have rewatched most of his leading up to the new one - it's just Licorice Pizza I am dragging my feet on. Hopefully I will get to the new one this weekend. I also started my Altman biography that's been sitting on the shelf too long, and the Criterion channel has a curated list of movies directed by Altman so I figured that was a good jumping off point from PTA since that is one of his idols.
 
Overall I saw a lot of solid choices here in the top 10 or so with one exception.
The one that stuck out to me was The Phantom Thread being there.
I'm obviously not a PTA fan but even ignoring my own opinion, I have never talked to anyone that liked this film. Even a couple friends that typically do like his films said that it was not one of his better efforts. It seemed like a ludicrous reach even for a "PTA fanboy".
I am not a PTA fan boy. Punch Drunk Love, The Master and Inherent Vice are movies I strongly dislike. I won't say they are bad but I don't get anything from watching them. Phantom Thread is a masterpiece though. Easily his funniest movie which I love. If you poke around, you will see lots of people like it and it's surging in popularity every year. There is a major rep theater in LA who has taken to showing it every NYE and I believe they sell out each time. I think it just confused people at first because it seemed so not like a PTA movie and the comedy was lost. So quotable. I acknowledge There Will Be Blood is a better movie but I like watchog The Phantom Thread way more. So rewatchable.


OK, it's easy to criticize so what would I replace it with?
Brooklyn - Ronan's affecting period piece. If I watch 5 minutes of this film, I'm emotionally hooked into watching the rest.
or
Motherless Brooklyn - Probably not as well regarded, but I really enjoy Norton's performance, the cast, the story, etc.

But my choice is The Dry. Eric Bana stars in an Australian film that covers a set of murders in the present as well as a mysterious one in the past. It's brilliantly done and I highly recommend it to all if you haven't seen it.

Sorry for the late response, I've been out of the country on vacation.
I have't seen The Dry yet or Motherless Brooklyn but I would like to. As for Brooklyn, yeah that wasn't too far from making my list. Excellent movie and a worthy choice.
Same here - my experience is that TWBB, Boogie, and Phantom are the ones that most people gravitate to from PTA and Licorice/Inherent/Magnolia are the more polarizing ones.

I am curious for your take and others about Inherent Vice. I watched it a couple times last week, and I am feeling like it's growing on me similar to how Lebowski did. IMO both have a similar weird, non-sensical plot line going on and both get me laughing a lot now. My opinion is that they are quite similar in feel and structure so I don't get why one is so beloved (well, besides the general feel that people prefer Coen movies overall around these parts) and one seems to be written off. Am I wrong in that assessment, and what was it that you hated so much about Inherent Vice?

I am gearing up for the new one. I fell behind in the reading I wanted to do from my PTA book, but have rewatched most of his leading up to the new one - it's just Licorice Pizza I am dragging my feet on. Hopefully I will get to the new one this weekend. I also started my Altman biography that's been sitting on the shelf too long, and the Criterion channel has a curated list of movies directed by Altman so I figured that was a good jumping off point from PTA since that is one of his idols.
I do need to rewatch Inherent Vice. Maybe this week. Maybe I wasn't in the right mood for it or something because I love the kind of detective story (The Big Sleep, Long Goodbye, Lebowski, etc) where things are kind of aimless and unresolved and convoluted. I was just bored with it. Maybe I was trying too hard to grasp onto a plot or mystery and missed it for it was. I just worry because when I have Punch Drunk and The Master rewatches, I felt just as disappointed as I did the first time.
 

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