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The Top 300 Greatest TV Shows of All Time: FBG Consensus: 50 Lists received. 51: It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (287 Viewers)

I'm not sure why we're posting an arbitrary 5 successive shows, but here's my 46-51 and I would stack it up against anyone's in here and you wouldn't have a chance.

46 Stranger Things
47 Sharp Objects
48 The Wonder Years
49 The Gong Show
50 V
51 Jackass
Miniseries or TV show for 50?
 
I'm not sure why we're posting an arbitrary 5 successive shows, but here's my 46-51 and I would stack it up against anyone's in here and you wouldn't have a chance.

46 Stranger Things
47 Sharp Objects
48 The Wonder Years
49 The Gong Show
50 V
51 Jackass
Miniseries or TV show for 50?

Damn. 80's miniseries. @Scoresman please note.

I forgot there was also the series in the 80's. Wish I could combine miniseries and series. But no way was this the 2000's series.
 
how serious are people taking this?
I think everyone submitting lists is taking it very seriously but everyone has there own idea of what "greatest" means to them in how they want to craft their list. There is no single way to define it. The "greatness" of the exercise is getting a variety of viewpoints to broaden everyone's horizons. I mean getting everyone to remember how great Charlie's Angels was is priceless.
To be clear, I'm not ragging on anyones lists. I'm likely the last person that should be doing that. I do have my biasness and don't really think game shows and reality shows should even sniff the top 70 but if there are people that think Family Feud is one of the best shows of all time then who am I to say you're wrong. I'm bound to have some shows that people will think are stinkers. Though I think you could make an argument that shows like Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune (both that I like) are really good and deserve to be up there.

I think gators post hit the nail on the head and I was just momentarily confused.
 
i'd love to try and blend in but I haven't even ordered my list yet. Whatever, here's 5 random shows from my list

the tudors
texas rising
the food the built america
trust
robot chicken
 
In hindsight maybe my list could have been a little broader, it’s almost exclusively comedy or drama type shows.
For me, when I think of TV shows that matter it really focuses on dramas and sit coms. That is what I think of when I think of TV shows. There are some other type shows that fit the bill as "greatest" because of their uniqueness or concept or how much it was copied but by and large I stuck with the bread and butter of drama/sitcom for my list...........and I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
I had over 200 shows that I had to whittle down to 70. It was not easy.

I had lots of nostalgia that I had to cut but kept some important shows that were part of and shaped my youth and some of those shows to me are timeless and would never see the lightnof day in today’s overly sensitive society.

There is also some serious heavyweights….and those made up the top 15-20 easy for me.

I stayed away from sports and documentaries and stuck with drama, sci fi, horror, historical, and lots of comedy. I also threw in some timeless game shows that are to this day constantly on.
What can't you do on TV these days due to today's overly sensitive society? Game of Thrones, Orange is the New Black, Family Guy, Euphoria, Borat/Bruno, the Kids in the Hall revival, Key and Peele, 30 Rock, SNL, South Park... tons of violence, sex, nudity, jokes about any topic (race, sexuality, disability, really anything).

Modern streaming shows have more latitude with sex and language than theatrically released films because they don't have to deal with the MPAA rating system. There are huge commercial pressures on filmmakers to avoid R ratings for feature films while TV shows can drop that second F bomb in the first episode without any consequences.
Has nothing to do with F bombs and sex….and quite frankly it has to due with being able to make fun of ourselves and each other but this is absolutely not the thread nor place to discuss
It. But our country has lost its sense of humor and does not want to offend anyone. There are some great shows that absolutely would never be made today because of we made fun of each other in a more blunt manner. And it went both ways. Do I need to spell it out? Shows from the mid 70’s and 80’s in particular.

I mean hell there are people today who are appalled by Sixteen Candles for Christ sakes.

Looking forward to seeing what makes the top 70.
 
how serious are people taking this?
I think everyone submitting lists is taking it very seriously but everyone has there own idea of what "greatest" means to them in how they want to craft their list. There is no single way to define it. The "greatness" of the exercise is getting a variety of viewpoints to broaden everyone's horizons. I mean getting everyone to remember how great Charlie's Angels was is priceless.
To be clear, I'm not ragging on anyones lists. I'm likely the last person that should be doing that. I do have my biasness and don't really think game shows and reality shows should even sniff the top 70 but if there are people that think Family Feud is one of the best shows of all time then who am I to say you're wrong. I'm bound to have some shows that people will think are stinkers. Though I think you could make an argument that shows like Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune (both that I like) are really good and deserve to be up there.

I think gators post hit the nail on the head and I was just momentarily confused.
Did you grow up watching Richard Dawson host Family Feud?

It’s freaking priceless watching it today…..absolutely priceless.
 
Reading people's 46-51 ... I realize I missed a couple of shows. Oh well.

46 Party Down
47 New Girl
48 Battlestar Galactica (2004)
49 Chappelle Show
50 The Office
51 Saturday Night Live
 
how serious are people taking this?
I think everyone submitting lists is taking it very seriously but everyone has there own idea of what "greatest" means to them in how they want to craft their list. There is no single way to define it. The "greatness" of the exercise is getting a variety of viewpoints to broaden everyone's horizons. I mean getting everyone to remember how great Charlie's Angels was is priceless.
To be clear, I'm not ragging on anyones lists. I'm likely the last person that should be doing that. I do have my biasness and don't really think game shows and reality shows should even sniff the top 70 but if there are people that think Family Feud is one of the best shows of all time then who am I to say you're wrong. I'm bound to have some shows that people will think are stinkers. Though I think you could make an argument that shows like Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune (both that I like) are really good and deserve to be up there.

I think gators post hit the nail on the head and I was just momentarily confused.
Did you grow up watching Richard Dawson host Family Feud?

It’s freaking priceless watching it today…..absolutely priceless.
probably not. I maybe have seen some in syndication. Was he the host when there was this sort of southernish vibe where the families would sit still like a painting before the got introduced? That is my earliest memory.
 
how serious are people taking this?
I think everyone submitting lists is taking it very seriously but everyone has there own idea of what "greatest" means to them in how they want to craft their list. There is no single way to define it. The "greatness" of the exercise is getting a variety of viewpoints to broaden everyone's horizons. I mean getting everyone to remember how great Charlie's Angels was is priceless.
To be clear, I'm not ragging on anyones lists. I'm likely the last person that should be doing that. I do have my biasness and don't really think game shows and reality shows should even sniff the top 70 but if there are people that think Family Feud is one of the best shows of all time then who am I to say you're wrong. I'm bound to have some shows that people will think are stinkers. Though I think you could make an argument that shows like Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune (both that I like) are really good and deserve to be up there.

I think gators post hit the nail on the head and I was just momentarily confused.
Did you grow up watching Richard Dawson host Family Feud?

It’s freaking priceless watching it today…..absolutely priceless.
probably not. I maybe have seen some in syndication. Was he the host when there was this sort of southernish vibe where the families would sit still like a painting before the got introduced? That is my earliest memory.
Yes!!!! Family Feud with Richard Dawson was huge in my home as a little kid. And he was the best game show host…..and his role in the Running Man was perfect.

But man he just killed it on Family Feud.
 
I'm not sure why we're posting an arbitrary 5 successive shows, but here's my 46-51 and I would stack it up against anyone's in here and you wouldn't have a chance.

46 Stranger Things
47 Sharp Objects
48 The Wonder Years
49 The Gong Show
50 V
51 Jackass
Miniseries or TV show for 50?

Damn. 80's miniseries. @Scoresman please note.

I forgot there was also the series in the 80's. Wish I could combine miniseries and series. But no way was this the 2000's series.
I kinda liked it :bag:
 
Reading people's 46-51 ... I realize I missed a couple of shows. Oh well.

46 Party Down
47 New Girl
48 Battlestar Galactica (2004)
49 Chappelle Show
50 The Office
51 Saturday Night Live
I feel like this is such a microcosm of the varying opinions and different tastes we all have.

In this 46-51 list are 3 shows I would never even consider and then 3 shows I have in my top 20.
 
In hindsight maybe my list could have been a little broader, it’s almost exclusively comedy or drama type shows.
For me, when I think of TV shows that matter it really focuses on dramas and sit coms. That is what I think of when I think of TV shows. There are some other type shows that fit the bill as "greatest" because of their uniqueness or concept or how much it was copied but by and large I stuck with the bread and butter of drama/sitcom for my list...........and I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
I had over 200 shows that I had to whittle down to 70. It was not easy.

I had lots of nostalgia that I had to cut but kept some important shows that were part of and shaped my youth and some of those shows to me are timeless and would never see the lightnof day in today’s overly sensitive society.

There is also some serious heavyweights….and those made up the top 15-20 easy for me.

I stayed away from sports and documentaries and stuck with drama, sci fi, horror, historical, and lots of comedy. I also threw in some timeless game shows that are to this day constantly on.
What can't you do on TV these days due to today's overly sensitive society? Game of Thrones, Orange is the New Black, Family Guy, Euphoria, Borat/Bruno, the Kids in the Hall revival, Key and Peele, 30 Rock, SNL, South Park... tons of violence, sex, nudity, jokes about any topic (race, sexuality, disability, really anything).

Modern streaming shows have more latitude with sex and language than theatrically released films because they don't have to deal with the MPAA rating system. There are huge commercial pressures on filmmakers to avoid R ratings for feature films while TV shows can drop that second F bomb in the first episode without any consequences.
Has nothing to do with F bombs and sex….and quite frankly it has to due with being able to make fun of ourselves and each other but this is absolutely not the thread nor place to discuss
It. But our country has lost its sense of humor and does not want to offend anyone. There are some great shows that absolutely would never be made today because of we made fun of each other in a more blunt manner. And it went both ways. Do I need to spell it out? Shows from the mid 70’s and 80’s in particular.

I mean hell there are people today who are appalled by Sixteen Candles for Christ sakes.

Looking forward to seeing what makes the top 70.

Humor changes over time.

Just because we still laugh at shows from the 70s and 80s doesn't mean that people who weren't alive at the time might find them cringey. And vice versa.
 
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I'm not sure why we're posting an arbitrary 5 successive shows, but here's my 46-51 and I would stack it up against anyone's in here and you wouldn't have a chance.

46 Stranger Things
47 Sharp Objects
48 The Wonder Years
49 The Gong Show
50 V
51 Jackass
6 shows.

I picked 46-51 because I thought it would be relatively benign. Lower might spoil the fun. Higher too.
 
Reading people's 46-51 ... I realize I missed a couple of shows. Oh well.

46 Party Down
47 New Girl
48 Battlestar Galactica (2004)
49 Chappelle Show
50 The Office
51 Saturday Night Live
I feel like this is such a microcosm of the varying opinions and different tastes we all have.

In this 46-51 list are 3 shows I would never even consider and then 3 shows I have in my top 20.
And this is why I posted it at all. Awesome stuff, can't wait for the unveiling to start!
 
Reading people's 46-51 ... I realize I missed a couple of shows. Oh well.

46 Party Down
47 New Girl
48 Battlestar Galactica (2004)
49 Chappelle Show
50 The Office
51 Saturday Night Live
I feel like this is such a microcosm of the varying opinions and different tastes we all have.

In this 46-51 list are 3 shows I would never even consider and then 3 shows I have in my top 20.

And this is one of the few groupings that have zero shows in my top 70
Reading people's 46-51 ... I realize I missed a couple of shows. Oh well.

46 Party Down
47 New Girl
48 Battlestar Galactica (2004)
49 Chappelle Show
50 The Office
51 Saturday Night Live
I feel like this is such a microcosm of the varying opinions and different tastes we all have.

In this 46-51 list are 3 shows I would never even consider and then 3 shows I have in my top 20.

While this may the first group of shows that have zero in my top 70
 
how serious are people taking this?
I think everyone submitting lists is taking it very seriously but everyone has there own idea of what "greatest" means to them in how they want to craft their list. There is no single way to define it. The "greatness" of the exercise is getting a variety of viewpoints to broaden everyone's horizons. I mean getting everyone to remember how great Charlie's Angels was is priceless.
To be clear, I'm not ragging on anyones lists. I'm likely the last person that should be doing that. I do have my biasness and don't really think game shows and reality shows should even sniff the top 70 but if there are people that think Family Feud is one of the best shows of all time then who am I to say you're wrong. I'm bound to have some shows that people will think are stinkers. Though I think you could make an argument that shows like Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune (both that I like) are really good and deserve to be up there.

I think gators post hit the nail on the head and I was just momentarily confused.
Did you grow up watching Richard Dawson host Family Feud?

It’s freaking priceless watching it today…..absolutely priceless.
probably not. I maybe have seen some in syndication. Was he the host when there was this sort of southernish vibe where the families would sit still like a painting before the got introduced? That is my earliest memory.
Yes!!!! Family Feud with Richard Dawson was huge in my home as a little kid. And he was the best game show host…..and his role in the Running Man was perfect.

But man he just killed it on Family Feud.


Family Feud didn't make my list because there's a better version of the game, which placed in the 70s on my list and just barely didn't make my cut. It's called Pointless and is the reverse game, some episodes are on YouTube. It would have scored higher on my list but the British version drags out to 45 minutes because they interview the contestants a lot, it's nice to fast-forward through to just the questions and watch it in 15 minutes or so.

Anyway, instead of guessing the most popular answer to some random question like "what's your favorite pizza topping?", on Pointless, they survey 100 people to name as many answers as they can to a question that has a finite number of correct answers, then on the game show, the contestants have to give the most obscure answer they can think of, and get points for however many people in the survey gave the same reply. But... lowest score wins.

For example, if the question was "Name an actor in the movie DIE HARD", 90 out of 100 would name Bruce Willis, but, only 50 of 100 might name William Atherton, 25 might name Bonnie Bedilia, and if you could pull out an obscure answer like De'Voreaux White ("Argyle") or Hart Bochner ("Ellis"), those would score a perfect 0 points giving you a 'pointless answer' and a likely win. I think it's like the TV version of the Black Sheep game or whatever.

Yes, I'm a snob about my Family Feud type trivia games.
 
how serious are people taking this?
I think everyone submitting lists is taking it very seriously but everyone has there own idea of what "greatest" means to them in how they want to craft their list. There is no single way to define it. The "greatness" of the exercise is getting a variety of viewpoints to broaden everyone's horizons. I mean getting everyone to remember how great Charlie's Angels was is priceless.
To be clear, I'm not ragging on anyones lists. I'm likely the last person that should be doing that. I do have my biasness and don't really think game shows and reality shows should even sniff the top 70 but if there are people that think Family Feud is one of the best shows of all time then who am I to say you're wrong. I'm bound to have some shows that people will think are stinkers. Though I think you could make an argument that shows like Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune (both that I like) are really good and deserve to be up there.

I think gators post hit the nail on the head and I was just momentarily confused.
Did you grow up watching Richard Dawson host Family Feud?

It’s freaking priceless watching it today…..absolutely priceless.
probably not. I maybe have seen some in syndication. Was he the host when there was this sort of southernish vibe where the families would sit still like a painting before the got introduced? That is my earliest memory.
Yes!!!! Family Feud with Richard Dawson was huge in my home as a little kid. And he was the best game show host…..and his role in the Running Man was perfect.

But man he just killed it on Family Feud.


Family Feud didn't make my list because there's a better version of the game, which placed in the 70s on my list and just barely didn't make my cut. It's called Pointless
Maybe the only good new thing on British TV this century
 
In hindsight maybe my list could have been a little broader, it’s almost exclusively comedy or drama type shows.
For me, when I think of TV shows that matter it really focuses on dramas and sit coms. That is what I think of when I think of TV shows. There are some other type shows that fit the bill as "greatest" because of their uniqueness or concept or how much it was copied but by and large I stuck with the bread and butter of drama/sitcom for my list...........and I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
I had over 200 shows that I had to whittle down to 70. It was not easy.

I had lots of nostalgia that I had to cut but kept some important shows that were part of and shaped my youth and some of those shows to me are timeless and would never see the lightnof day in today’s overly sensitive society.

There is also some serious heavyweights….and those made up the top 15-20 easy for me.

I stayed away from sports and documentaries and stuck with drama, sci fi, horror, historical, and lots of comedy. I also threw in some timeless game shows that are to this day constantly on.
What can't you do on TV these days due to today's overly sensitive society? Game of Thrones, Orange is the New Black, Family Guy, Euphoria, Borat/Bruno, the Kids in the Hall revival, Key and Peele, 30 Rock, SNL, South Park... tons of violence, sex, nudity, jokes about any topic (race, sexuality, disability, really anything).

Modern streaming shows have more latitude with sex and language than theatrically released films because they don't have to deal with the MPAA rating system. There are huge commercial pressures on filmmakers to avoid R ratings for feature films while TV shows can drop that second F bomb in the first episode without any consequences.
Has nothing to do with F bombs and sex….and quite frankly it has to due with being able to make fun of ourselves and each other but this is absolutely not the thread nor place to discuss
It. But our country has lost its sense of humor and does not want to offend anyone. There are some great shows that absolutely would never be made today because of we made fun of each other in a more blunt manner. And it went both ways. Do I need to spell it out? Shows from the mid 70’s and 80’s in particular.

I mean hell there are people today who are appalled by Sixteen Candles for Christ sakes.

Looking forward to seeing what makes the top 70.

Humor changes over time.

Just because we still laugh at shows from the 70s and 80s doesn't mean that people who weren't alive at the time might find them cringey. And vice versa.
That’s true. There are definitely some things that are cringy and inappropriate. I don’t disagree.

But the cancel culture has gotten completely out of control.

Anyway like I said….looking forward to the countdown.
 
I've never seen some of the shows people have on their lists
I'll bet I haven't seen some shows on your list either. That is the beauty of this.

When the final honorable mentions, runner ups, final 100, etc. get posted, I will then have a list of shows to watch that have been curated from my brothers in arms. People(had to include Krista and Mrs.) who love fantasy football. There are certain aspects re: taste we are aligned. Most likely I won't like all the shows, but I bet I will come across some new favorites.
 
Why is this thread about politics now?
Started with a discussion about everyone’s ranking of the McNeil Lehrer Report.

Those guys ruin everything.

Anyway, my re-ranked TV list has been submitted. I appreciate that I could re-do! I'm not posting my 46-51, because who cares. :)
 
I mean hell there are people today who are appalled by Sixteen Candles for Christ sakes.
Right on! What's so bad about date rape and racism?
Like I said no sense of humor anymore. Like it’s just sooo appaling and was meant to be offensive.

Carry on.
First of all, if it is political to be anti-date rape, then I guess my post was political.

To be clear, I thought Sixteen Candles was hilarious when I first saw it. Of course I was young and my brain hadn't fully formed at that point (some might argue it still hasn't). Years later, after I'd grown up, married and had a daughter, I know longer found Jake (Michael Schoeffling) gifting his girlfriend Carolyn (Haviland Morris) to the Geek (Anthony Michael Hall). Carolyn, absolutely hammered, is then date raped by the Geek.

Hilarity ensues.

I'll drop it now. I responded to Tode's original post because I thought it was satire. Apparently I was off. Way off.

Anyway, back to the thread. Here's 5 that didn't make the cut.
71 Danger Five
72 Search Party
73 Chappelle Show
74 M*A*S*H
75 Parks and Rec
 
I mean hell there are people today who are appalled by Sixteen Candles for Christ sakes.
Right on! What's so bad about date rape and racism?
Like I said no sense of humor anymore. Like it’s just sooo appaling and was meant to be offensive.

Carry on.
First of all, if it is political to be anti-date rape, then I guess my post was political.

To be clear, I thought Sixteen Candles was hilarious when I first saw it. Of course I was young and my brain hadn't fully formed at that point (some might argue it still hasn't). Years later, after I'd grown up, married and had a daughter, I know longer found Jake (Michael Schoeffling) gifting his girlfriend Carolyn (Haviland Morris) to the Geek (Anthony Michael Hall). Carolyn, absolutely hammered, is then date raped by the Geek.

Hilarity ensues.

I'll drop it now. I responded to Tode's original post because I thought it was satire. Apparently I was off. Way off.

Anyway, back to the thread. Here's 5 that didn't make the cut.
71 Danger Five
72 Search Party
73 Chappelle Show
74 M*A*S*H
75 Parks and Rec
Hey I am not trying to be political about it….Sixteen Candles is still a hillarious movie and I truly believe the inference of date rape was overblown.

Yeah we can leave it at that. No one here is suggesting date rape is perfectly ok.
 
Why is this thread about politics now?
It’s kinda hard to avoid when discussions about shows from the 50’’s, 60’s, 70’s 80’s and heck even the 90’s are going to ensue.

I will definitely steer clear of being political…..but I am not a politically correct person when discussing things I love that some may find offensive in todays over sensitive social scene we are in. It’s gone overboard.

Off my soap box.
 
I'm not sure why we're posting an arbitrary 5 successive shows, but here's my 46-51 and I would stack it up against anyone's in here and you wouldn't have a chance.

46 Stranger Things
47 Sharp Objects
48 The Wonder Years
49 The Gong Show
50 V
51 Jackass
Maybe, in order to have the best 46-51 list, I should drop my top 6 down 45 spots
 
Yeah I hope this thread doesn't become political but I'm 💯 positive that a show in my top 10 could spin discussion in that direction. :shrug:
 

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