The Top 300 Greatest TV Shows of All Time: FBG Consensus: 50 Lists received. 67: Frasier (19 Viewers)

[Ilov80s]

The countdown is so large that I don't know how to react when my shows don't appear on a batch. Should I be bummed because they aren't making it or happy that they aren't down in the 200s?

 

[Ilov80s]

The Penguin over Miami Vice? I demand a recount.

 

[Psychopav]

196 - Bloodline​

Drama
Score: 153
Average Rank: 40.4

A family of adult siblings find that their past secrets and scars are revealed when their black sheep of a brother returns home.

List Breakdown

steelerfan1 6
Frostillicus 33
simey 38
Dr Octopus 57
AAABatteries 68

Ooh, I liked this one and forgot it on my list. Would have been close to making the 70-show cut.

IMDB ratings

Dukes of Hazzard: 7.1
Penguin: 8.6
Quantum Leap: 8.2
Bosch: 8.5

I would like to make a request of @Scoresman

Maybe too much to ask, but would you be open to including IMDB rating along with score and average rank?

I’m a big proponent of IMDB ratings for movies, I think they’re the best ratings out there. I ignore them for TV, though - every show is an 8.0. People who make it through the show liked it enough to stick with it and give it a 9. People who didn’t like it dipped out after 3 episodes and don’t feel like they saw enough to give it a rating. At least that’s my guess at why the show scores are all so high.

I'm thinking you're right.

RT seems like a better gauge (tomatometer/popcorn):

Dukes: N/A
Penguin: 95%/89%
Quantum Leap: 58%/73%
Bosch: 97%/94%
Bloodline: 62%/74%

THIS IS #1 BULL SH*T!!!!!

Mission accomplished.

 

[The Gator]

I never finished Bloodline. I ranked it because I thought Season 1 was so great, and Season 2 was good. Perhaps I will never watch Season 3 and preserve my good feelings.

This is why I didn't have it ranked.

S1 alone would make it, but it didn't hold up overall IMO

 

[simey]

196 - Bloodline​

The last two episodes nearly destroyed what was an excellent series with amazing acting and an interesting storyline.

If not for a weak and weird ending I would have it even higher.

I remember the creators were blindsided by Netflix telling them season 3 would be the last. Netflix said it was too expensive to shoot in the Keys, and they also told them the agreed upon 13 episodes in season 3 would be cut to 10. The creators thought they were going to have 5 or 6 seasons, and they had to scramble to give season 3 some type of ending, which showed in the final episodes.

 

[BlackCrowes]

think i did two seasons of Bosch but never got back to it. i remember thinking it was pretty solid.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

196 - Bloodline​

The last two episodes nearly destroyed what was an excellent series with amazing acting and an interesting storyline.

If not for a weak and weird ending I would have it even higher.

I remember the creators were blindsided by Netflix telling them season 3 would be the last. Netflix said it was too expensive to shoot in the Keys, and they also told them the agreed upon 13 episodes in season 3 would be cut to 10. The creators thought they were going to have 5 or 6 seasons, and they had to scramble to give season 3 some type of ending, which showed in the final episodes.

They should have just let it fade away. The last episode wasn’t so bad but the penultimate episode was just too bizarre and out of place. The show was great but understand tHe expense.

 

[Jayrod]

The countdown is so large that I don't know how to react when my shows don't appear on a batch. Should I be bummed because they aren't making it or happy that they aren't down in the 200s?

Yes

 

[Yo Mama]

The countdown is so large that I don't know how to react when my shows don't appear on a batch. Should I be bummed because they aren't making it or happy that they aren't down in the 200s?

Yes

I kinda feel the opposite - I say No.

 

[Eephus]

The Penguin over Miami Vice? I demand a recount.

Recency bias

 

[The Gator]

The countdown is so large that I don't know how to react when my shows don't appear on a batch. Should I be bummed because they aren't making it or happy that they aren't down in the 200s?

Yes

 

[whoknew]

For the people that voted for it, does it hold up for those 7 seasons?

I thought it was pretty consistent for the Bosch series. The Bosch Legacy not so much. It's hard to buy the frail daughter as a cop.

Yes but she's very cute. So, you know ...

 

[whoknew]

think i did two seasons of Bosch but never got back to it. i remember thinking it was pretty solid.

For those who haven't seen Bosch, it doesn't do anything new. It's just a really well acted, really well written cop show. Its not breaking any new ground, its just doing a very good job on a genre that many (including me) really enjoy.

 

[Yo Mama]

think i did two seasons of Bosch but never got back to it. i remember thinking it was pretty solid.

For those who haven't seen Bosch, it doesn't do anything new. It's just a really well acted, really well written cop show. Its not breaking any new ground, its just doing a very good job on a genre that many (including me) really enjoy.

I feel the same way. I’d call it extremely good. It doesn’t break any ground, but is good at what it does. Fun watch.

 

[kupcho1]

Thanks!

I am going to do like used to - watch a handful of Ep 1s from ideas in this countdown and use that to pick whatever grabs me the most. So far I've watched The Good Place.

I'm glad you're watching it and hope you enjoy it. However, it hasn't appeared in the countdown yet and - if this board is half as intelligent as i think it is - shouldn't for a long, long time.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Thanks!

I am going to do like used to - watch a handful of Ep 1s from ideas in this countdown and use that to pick whatever grabs me the most. So far I've watched The Good Place.

I'm glad you're watching it and hope you enjoy it. However, it hasn't appeared in the countdown yet and - if this board is half as intelligent as i think it is - shouldn't for a long, long time.

Doh! Nothing to see here..... i forgot that was part of the sneak preview posts.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Thanks!

I am going to do like used to - watch a handful of Ep 1s from ideas in this countdown and use that to pick whatever grabs me the most. So far I've watched The Good Place.

I'm glad you're watching it and hope you enjoy it. However, it hasn't appeared in the countdown yet and - if this board is half as intelligent as i think it is - shouldn't for a long, long time.

Doh! Nothing to see here..... i forgot that was part of the sneak preview posts.

Put ... the ... bong ... DOWN!

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

So its going to be 5 a day?

 

[shuke]

196 - Bloodline​

The last two episodes nearly destroyed what was an excellent series with amazing acting and an interesting storyline.

If not for a weak and weird ending I would have it even higher.

I remember the creators were blindsided by Netflix telling them season 3 would be the last. Netflix said it was too expensive to shoot in the Keys, and they also told them the agreed upon 13 episodes in season 3 would be cut to 10. The creators thought they were going to have 5 or 6 seasons, and they had to scramble to give season 3 some type of ending, which showed in the final episodes.

They should have just let it fade away. The last episode wasn’t so bad but the penultimate episode was just too bizarre and out of place. The show was great but understand tHe expense.

Can you put in spoilers what happened? I watched it and remembered it being decent, but can't remember specifics, so didn't rake it. But, Linda Cardellini and Chloe Sevigny

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

oh its a netflix thing, no wonder

 

[KarmaPolice]

Thanks!

I am going to do like used to - watch a handful of Ep 1s from ideas in this countdown and use that to pick whatever grabs me the most. So far I've watched The Good Place.

I'm glad you're watching it and hope you enjoy it. However, it hasn't appeared in the countdown yet and - if this board is half as intelligent as i think it is - shouldn't for a long, long time.

Doh! Nothing to see here..... i forgot that was part of the sneak preview posts.

Put ... the ... bong ... DOWN!

How dare you! Having some for the first time in awhile last weekend definitely had no influence on the crappy shows that litter my list of 70, or explain that post.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

196 - Bloodline​

The last two episodes nearly destroyed what was an excellent series with amazing acting and an interesting storyline.

If not for a weak and weird ending I would have it even higher.

I remember the creators were blindsided by Netflix telling them season 3 would be the last. Netflix said it was too expensive to shoot in the Keys, and they also told them the agreed upon 13 episodes in season 3 would be cut to 10. The creators thought they were going to have 5 or 6 seasons, and they had to scramble to give season 3 some type of ending, which showed in the final episodes.

They should have just let it fade away. The last episode wasn’t so bad but the penultimate episode was just too bizarre and out of place. The show was great but understand tHe expense.

Can you put in spoilers what happened? I watched it and remembered it being decent, but can't remember specifics, so didn't rake it. But, Linda Cardellini and Chloe Sevigny

Big fan of her. I don’t recall her and seems like she’s mostly season 3 so pretty sure i tapped out in 2

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I mean I watched The Last Days of Disco which might be the most boring movie ever made just because it had her and Kate Beckinsale

 

[KarmaPolice]

I mean I watched The Last Days of Disco which might be the most boring movie ever made just because it had her and Kate Beckinsale

How about Boys Don't Cry? Kids?

 

[zamboni]

I mean I watched The Last Days of Disco which might be the most boring movie ever made just because it had her and Kate Beckinsale

How about Boys Don't Cry? Kids?

She was amazing in both of them. Kids was her film debut IIRC.

 

[steelerfan1]

My #10 ranked show that did not make the top 300.

Yellowjackets

In 1996, a NJ high school girls' soccer team travels to Seattle for a national tournament. While flying over Canada, their plane crashes deep in the wilderness, and the surviving team members are left stranded for nineteen months. The series chronicles their attempts to stay alive as some of the team members are driven to cannibalism. It also focuses on the lives of the survivors 25 years later in 2021, as the events of their ordeal continue to affect them many years after their rescue.

Going off the rails a little bit for me. Would probably need to move this back some of it doesn’t correct itself this season.

 

[sports_fan]

I’d have guessed quite a bit higher for Malcolm in the Middle

 

[Scoresman]

Busy day today so probably no picks until tomorrow.

In the meantime maybe you can guess and discuss how many people had Cop Rock on their lists.

 

[zamboni]

Busy day today so probably no picks until tomorrow.

In the meantime maybe you can guess and discuss how many people had Cop Rock on their lists.

It’s going to be hard to convince future generations that this actually existed:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Busy day today so probably no picks until tomorrow.

In the meantime maybe you can guess and discuss how many people had Cop Rock on their lists.

Right behind The Secret Diary of Desmond Pfeiffer for me

 

[Jayrod]

So I guess we take weekends off on the countdown?

That wasn't in the fine print anywhere.

 

[Hastur]

So I guess we take weekends off on the countdown?

That wasn't in the fine print anywhere.

Let's keep the big picture in mind folks.

 

[Jayrod]

So I guess we take weekends off on the countdown?

That wasn't in the fine print anywhere.

Let's keep the big picture in mind folks.

Good point.

I love you, @Scoresman. May God's blessings rain upon you.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

In the meantime maybe you can guess and discuss how many people had Cop Rock on their lists.

too many

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Busy day today so probably no picks until tomorrow.

In the meantime maybe you can guess and discuss how many people had Cop Rock on their lists.

It’s going to be hard to convince future generations that this actually existed:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

I always wonder what those acotrs were thinking.

 

[zamboni]

Busy day today so probably no picks until tomorrow.

In the meantime maybe you can guess and discuss how many people had Cop Rock on their lists.

It’s going to be hard to convince future generations that this actually existed:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

I always wonder what those acotrs were thinking.

It’s probably not a coincidence that the careers of most of the cast basically petered out after this fiasco.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Busy day today so probably no picks until tomorrow.

In the meantime maybe you can guess and discuss how many people had Cop Rock on their lists.

It’s going to be hard to convince future generations that this actually existed:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

I always wonder what those acotrs were thinking.

It’s probably not a coincidence that the careers of most of the cast basically petered out after this fiasco.

I'll Bochco a lot of credit for trying something different, but I wish it was another different. It was bad

 

[fantasy stud]

220-211​

Rank	Title	Lists
211	King of the Hill	6
212	NOVA	4
213	After Life	3
214	From the Earth to the Moon	3
215	Dallas	4
216	Weeds	3
217	The Real World	5
t-218	The Tick	3
t-218	The Rockford Files	9
220	Bates Motel	4

​

Two more from my list here.

Dallas - my #60 - I mainly had this ranked where I did due to the cultural phenomenon of the show. The whole Who Shot JR? cliffhanger captured the country’s attention like few other TV moments.

The Rockford Files - my #67 - if any show represented the word “cool” when I was younger, it was this one.

Dallas is top 50 for me. Surprised to see it in the 200's.

 

[fantasy stud]

200 - The Dukes of Hazzard​

Action
Score: 149
Average Rank: 41.2

The adventures of the fast-drivin', rubber-burnin' Duke boys of Hazzard County.

List Breakdown (Name and Rank)

landrys hat 24
Shaft41 27
Hastur 48
steelerfan1 67

My first favorite show as a 4-8 year old. I remember having the record with the song, santa brought the little race track at christmas, and I still have the old tv tray.

 

[fantasy stud]

I liked Season 1 of Bloodline a lot. We didn’t finish the series, can’t remember if we tapped out in S2 or 3

Yea, the first season was gold. It slowly just got more and more depressing, but I still enjoyed it

 

[Scoresman]

195 - Ken Burns: Baseball​

Documentary
Score: 154
Average Rank: 19.7

A baseball documentary.

List Breakdown

Don Quixote 13
Tau37 20
Binky 26

 

[Scoresman]

194 - Orange Is the New Black​

Comedy
Score: 156
Average Rank: 48.7

The story of Piper Chapman, a woman in her thirties who is sentenced to fifteen months in prison after being convicted of a decade-old crime of transporting money for her drug-dealing girlfriend.

List Breakdown

Pip's Invitation 27
UncleZen 40
Bottomfeeder Sports 49
John Madden's Lunchbox 50
Tick 55
timschochet 59
Don Quixote 61

 

[zamboni]

194 - Orange Is the New Black​

Comedy
Score: 156
Average Rank: 48.7

The story of Piper Chapman, a woman in her thirties who is sentenced to fifteen months in prison after being convicted of a decade-old crime of transporting money for her drug-dealing girlfriend.

List Breakdown

Pip's Invitation 27
UncleZen 40
Bottomfeeder Sports 49
John Madden's Lunchbox 50
Tick 55
timschochet 59
Don Quixote 61

Watched the first two seasons of this and really liked it. Lost interest after that but don’t recall why - very good cast.

 

[Instinctive]

194 - Orange Is the New Black​

Comedy
Score: 156
Average Rank: 48.7

The story of Piper Chapman, a woman in her thirties who is sentenced to fifteen months in prison after being convicted of a decade-old crime of transporting money for her drug-dealing girlfriend.

List Breakdown

Pip's Invitation 27
UncleZen 40
Bottomfeeder Sports 49
John Madden's Lunchbox 50
Tick 55
timschochet 59
Don Quixote 61

Watched the first two seasons of this and really liked it. Lost interest after that but don’t recall why - very good cast.

Wife and I had a similar path. Not sure why we never finished it other than "lost interest"

 

[zamboni]

194 - Orange Is the New Black​

Comedy
Score: 156
Average Rank: 48.7

The story of Piper Chapman, a woman in her thirties who is sentenced to fifteen months in prison after being convicted of a decade-old crime of transporting money for her drug-dealing girlfriend.

List Breakdown

Pip's Invitation 27
UncleZen 40
Bottomfeeder Sports 49
John Madden's Lunchbox 50
Tick 55
timschochet 59
Don Quixote 61

Watched the first two seasons of this and really liked it. Lost interest after that but don’t recall why - very good cast.

Wife and I had a similar path. Not sure why we never finished it other than "lost interest"

Don’t recall but maybe there was a long lapse between seasons. I find that happening with a lot of shows that go a year or two (sometimes more) between seasons - lose interest after moving on to another show(s). Far cry from the old days when the season would end with May sweeps and pick up again in September.

 

[McBokonon]

194 - Orange Is the New Black​

Comedy
Score: 156
Average Rank: 48.7

The story of Piper Chapman, a woman in her thirties who is sentenced to fifteen months in prison after being convicted of a decade-old crime of transporting money for her drug-dealing girlfriend.

List Breakdown

Pip's Invitation 27
UncleZen 40
Bottomfeeder Sports 49
John Madden's Lunchbox 50
Tick 55
timschochet 59
Don Quixote 61

Watched the first two seasons of this and really liked it. Lost interest after that but don’t recall why

Wife and I had a similar path. Not sure why we never finished it other than "lost interest"

Because it got bad. Another one that should have told a three season story and then quit. I just looked and this went on for SEVEN seasons?

 

[Ilov80s]

195 - Ken Burns: Baseball​

Documentary
Score: 154
Average Rank: 19.7

A baseball documentary.

List Breakdown

Don Quixote 13
Tau37 20
Binky 26

I probably could have included a couple Ken Burns but I decided just to roll all my Ken Burns into 1 series.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

194 - Orange Is the New Black​

Comedy
Score: 156
Average Rank: 48.7

The story of Piper Chapman, a woman in her thirties who is sentenced to fifteen months in prison after being convicted of a decade-old crime of transporting money for her drug-dealing girlfriend.

List Breakdown

Pip's Invitation 27
UncleZen 40
Bottomfeeder Sports 49
John Madden's Lunchbox 50
Tick 55
timschochet 59
Don Quixote 61

When this came out, there was nothing like it. It was funny and heart-wrenching and thought-provoking. The first four seasons were some of the most invested I have ever been in a show.

They made a poor decision to kill off one of the best characters and flanderized some of the others, so the final seasons were somewhat of a struggle and I never finished the last one.

 

[Runkle]

195 - Ken Burns: Baseball​

Documentary
Score: 154
Average Rank: 19.7

A baseball documentary.

List Breakdown

Don Quixote 13
Tau37 20
Binky 26

I probably could have included a couple Ken Burns but I decided just to roll all my Ken Burns into 1 series.

I decided to roll all of my legal and police shows into Cop Rock

 

[Tick]

194 - Orange Is the New Black​

Comedy
Score: 156
Average Rank: 48.7

The story of Piper Chapman, a woman in her thirties who is sentenced to fifteen months in prison after being convicted of a decade-old crime of transporting money for her drug-dealing girlfriend.

List Breakdown

Pip's Invitation 27
UncleZen 40
Bottomfeeder Sports 49
John Madden's Lunchbox 50
Tick 55
timschochet 59
Don Quixote 61

When this came out, there was nothing like it. It was funny and heart-wrenching and thought-provoking. The first four seasons were some of the most invested I have ever been in a show.

They made a poor decision to kill off one of the best characters and flanderized some of the others, so the final seasons were somewhat of a struggle and I never finished the last one.

Pretty accurate - I tried to make myself rate shows for their best seasons rather than their worst, though it's hard to stay consistent there. Well, I'll amend that... I tried not to punish shows for not getting cancelled. If they were good from the start through 4 seasons, I try to remember that. I give less credit for a show that takes a season or 2 to get going (like Parks and Rec, which I often hear gets good after season 1, but that I've never gone back to after season 1 didn't grab me).