The Trent Richardson Thread (4 Viewers)

[rockaction]

"People have just been stacking the box," he said. "I haven't been getting the look I was getting earlier in the season. Now that Ahmad (Bradshaw's injured) people have just been counting on me to run the ball. I haven't been getting all the same looks as everybody else.

"When it comes down to it, I want to say I've been doing my job because every time I go in and (we) play-action, somebody's wide open. If they're trying to stop me and Andrew Luck is having a good day or Boom (Herron) is having a good day, I'm doing good because they're distracted by me and they can't stop the other guys. I'm doing my job."

It's not just a river in Egypt, Trent

Time to give Trent a random drug test because he's high as hell.

It's either time for him to believe that he will win at a 25 hr. taqueria or TO TURN ON THE NFL NETWORK NOW~!!!

IOW, wat? What is he watching?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

"People have just been stacking the box," he said. "I haven't been getting the look I was getting earlier in the season. Now that Ahmad (Bradshaw's injured) people have just been counting on me to run the ball. I haven't been getting all the same looks as everybody else.

"When it comes down to it, I want to say I've been doing my job because every time I go in and (we) play-action, somebody's wide open. If they're trying to stop me and Andrew Luck is having a good day or Boom (Herron) is having a good day, I'm doing good because they're distracted by me and they can't stop the other guys. I'm doing my job."

It's not just a river in Egypt, Trent

It's an extremely weird position to take. I'm sure defensive coordinators are putting all of their efforts into stopping Trent, and letting that Luck guys try and beat them.

 

[helix]

What else is he going to say to reporters? I doubt a phrase like- I am one of the biggest RB draft busts in NFL history is going to come out of his mouth.

It will be interesting to see what the Colts do with him next year. I doubt they cut him as he is guaranteed $3.2 million next season. Maybe they tell him to lose 15 pounds in hopes of regaining some burst and he is relegated to the #3 RB and plays special teams. Or they tell him to gain 10 pounds and convert him to a FB. At least he can block, can run 1 yard and has decent hands.

 

[Faust]

LOOK: Cleveland editorial cartoon rips return of Trent Richardson

 

[amnesiac]

Indy is just messing with everyone.

once they make the playoffs they're going to cut him.

 

[RBM]

They fn grounded him today and are struggling because of it.

 

[Todem]

They fn grounded him today and are struggling because of it.

This has got to

 

[cstu]

NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Trent Richardson rb 2012--2014 45 601 1989 3.31 17 108 886 8.20 2 401.52 Karim Abdul-Jabbar rb 1996--1998 47 860 2968 3.45 32 73 502 6.88 1 545.03 Errict Rhett rb 1994--1996 41 792 2757 3.48 21 40 240 6.00 1 431.74 Leonard Russell rb 1991--1993 43 689 2437 3.54 13 55 350 6.36 0 356.75 Andra Franklin rb 1981--1983 40 602 2158 3.58 22 6 15 2.50 1 355.3Lowest YPC by RB with 600 carries in their first three seasons.

 

[steelerfan1]

NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Trent Richardson rb 2012--2014 45 601 1989 3.31 17 108 886 8.20 2 401.52 Karim Abdul-Jabbar rb 1996--1998 47 860 2968 3.45 32 73 502 6.88 1 545.03 Errict Rhett rb 1994--1996 41 792 2757 3.48 21 40 240 6.00 1 431.74 Leonard Russell rb 1991--1993 43 689 2437 3.54 13 55 350 6.36 0 356.75 Andra Franklin rb 1981--1983 40 602 2158 3.58 22 6 15 2.50 1 355.3Lowest YPC by RB with 600 carries in their first three seasons.

is there anyway you could forward this to mr. pagano? thanks in advance.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Trent Richardson rb 2012--2014 45 601 1989 3.31 17 108 886 8.20 2 401.52 Karim Abdul-Jabbar rb 1996--1998 47 860 2968 3.45 32 73 502 6.88 1 545.03 Errict Rhett rb 1994--1996 41 792 2757 3.48 21 40 240 6.00 1 431.74 Leonard Russell rb 1991--1993 43 689 2437 3.54 13 55 350 6.36 0 356.75 Andra Franklin rb 1981--1983 40 602 2158 3.58 22 6 15 2.50 1 355.3Lowest YPC by RB with 600 carries in their first three seasons.

is there anyway you could forward this to mr. pagano? thanks in advance.

Ya for some reason the Colts continue giving Richardson touches. At this stage I don't know why they are not feeding Herron 15 to 20 rush attempts a game and just spelling him with Richardson. There should not be a split at all. Herron looks dangerous and the offence flows so much better when he is in there. Herron looks noticeably better than any RB the Colts have played this year including Bradshaw.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Trent Richardson rb 2012--2014 45 601 1989 3.31 17 108 886 8.20 2 401.52 Karim Abdul-Jabbar rb 1996--1998 47 860 2968 3.45 32 73 502 6.88 1 545.03 Errict Rhett rb 1994--1996 41 792 2757 3.48 21 40 240 6.00 1 431.74 Leonard Russell rb 1991--1993 43 689 2437 3.54 13 55 350 6.36 0 356.75 Andra Franklin rb 1981--1983 40 602 2158 3.58 22 6 15 2.50 1 355.3Lowest YPC by RB with 600 carries in their first three seasons.

What I also notice about each of those 4 other RBs is that they were all done after exactly 3 years.

Year 4 approacheth for TR.

 

[stbugs]

NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Trent Richardson rb 2012--2014 45 601 1989 3.31 17 108 886 8.20 2 401.52 Karim Abdul-Jabbar rb 1996--1998 47 860 2968 3.45 32 73 502 6.88 1 545.03 Errict Rhett rb 1994--1996 41 792 2757 3.48 21 40 240 6.00 1 431.74 Leonard Russell rb 1991--1993 43 689 2437 3.54 13 55 350 6.36 0 356.75 Andra Franklin rb 1981--1983 40 602 2158 3.58 22 6 15 2.50 1 355.3Lowest YPC by RB with 600 carries in their first three seasons.

What I also notice about each of those 4 other RBs is that they were all done after exactly 3 years.

Year 4 approacheth for TR.

Well, he broke the record, so who's to say he can't break this streak as well.

That said, the years are just for their first 3 years. Rhett played 7, Jabbar played 5, Russell played more than 3 as well. Didn't look up Franklin.

 

[stbugs]

NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Trent Richardson rb 2012--2014 45 601 1989 3.31 17 108 886 8.20 2 401.52 Karim Abdul-Jabbar rb 1996--1998 47 860 2968 3.45 32 73 502 6.88 1 545.03 Errict Rhett rb 1994--1996 41 792 2757 3.48 21 40 240 6.00 1 431.74 Leonard Russell rb 1991--1993 43 689 2437 3.54 13 55 350 6.36 0 356.75 Andra Franklin rb 1981--1983 40 602 2158 3.58 22 6 15 2.50 1 355.3Lowest YPC by RB with 600 carries in their first three seasons.

is there anyway you could forward this to mr. pagano? thanks in advance.

Ya for some reason the Colts continue giving Richardson touches. At this stage I don't know why they are not feeding Herron 15 to 20 rush attempts a game and just spelling him with Richardson. There should not be a split at all. Herron looks dangerous and the offence flows so much better when he is in there. Herron looks noticeably better than any RB the Colts have played this year including Bradshaw.

I don't get it either. The last 5 games, the Colts haven't looked that good. Since the NE game, they have won 4 in a row, but they were beating Jax 6-3 at halftime, they were beating the Redskins 21-17 in the 3rd quarter, they beat the Browns on a TD pass with 36 seconds left and getting a 4th and 1 conversion (by Herron) and beat the Texans by 7 (FG to make it 7 with 2 minutes left) even though the Texans had to go to their backup QB/rookie early in the game. The Colts aren't beating great teams lately and barely squeaking by undermanned teams who are 5-15 in their last five with the 5 wins being the Giants, Tenn, Jax, Atlanta and Cleveland.

So, why even bother giving him 43 carries to get 116 yards? In those last 5 games, Luck has TD passes of 79, 73, 73, 48, 42, 30 and 26. So, in basically 2 passes, Luck can get what it takes TRich 43 carries to get. Luck isn't getting those every play, of course, but you are getting 4.5 yards less in every run play to TRich that you can get from Luck or 1.7 yards less than Herron (or any other RB they seem to plug in).

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

as I posted earlier

"When it comes down to it, I want to say I've been doing my job because every time I go in and (we) play-action, somebody's wide open. If they're trying to stop me and Andrew Luck is having a good day or Boom (Herron) is having a good day, I'm doing good because they're distracted by me and they can't stop the other guys. I'm doing my job."

 

[Todem]

LMFAO!!!!

 

[hotlanta]

NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Trent Richardson rb 2012--2014 45 601 1989 3.31 17 108 886 8.20 2 401.52 Karim Abdul-Jabbar rb 1996--1998 47 860 2968 3.45 32 73 502 6.88 1 545.03 Errict Rhett rb 1994--1996 41 792 2757 3.48 21 40 240 6.00 1 431.74 Leonard Russell rb 1991--1993 43 689 2437 3.54 13 55 350 6.36 0 356.75 Andra Franklin rb 1981--1983 40 602 2158 3.58 22 6 15 2.50 1 355.3Lowest YPC by RB with 600 carries in their first three seasons.

is there anyway you could forward this to mr. pagano? thanks in advance.

Ya for some reason the Colts continue giving Richardson touches. At this stage I don't know why they are not feeding Herron 15 to 20 rush attempts a game and just spelling him with Richardson. There should not be a split at all. Herron looks dangerous and the offence flows so much better when he is in there. Herron looks noticeably better than any RB the Colts have played this year including Bradshaw.

At this point I am just flabergasted. How many times does it take until the coaches themselves get sick of Richardson? The fans and the entire world have already known this all year. Yet here we are in week 15 and every Colt back has thouroughly outplayed Richardson game after game after game. Indy will be bounced in the 1st round if they continue to trot him out there. He's nothing but a drive killer, 3 yards and a cloud of dust. It is painful to watch. Then you see Boom on the other side spinning and breaking tackles and generally running angry.

Does he have dirt on Pagano? Is the front office continuing to justify the move and overriding the coaches? I don't know what it is. Until they start losing, I don't think things will change. Unfortunately, by then, it will be too late for this year.

 

[stbugs]

as I posted earlier

"When it comes down to it, I want to say I've been doing my job because every time I go in and (we) play-action, somebody's wide open. If they're trying to stop me and Andrew Luck is having a good day or Boom (Herron) is having a good day, I'm doing good because they're distracted by me and they can't stop the other guys. I'm doing my job."

In all seriousness, that is why I avoided him like the plague. I may have been interested if he went way late, but every article about him working harder seemed to slip in the "I didn't really play badly" and "the defense is trying to stop me instead of Luck" type of comments. It always made me feel like it was just going to be more of the same and it was. He went 5.10 in a heavy 2 keeper FBG league, 6.1 in another 1 keeper and 7.3 in another. It looks like I selected Mike Wallace in 2 of those leagues right behind TRich, so no way I would have taken him that high.

My biggest regret in this thread is not recognizing my own statements that TRich wouldn't have a good season because Luck added a few weapons and had a healthy Allen and translating that into FF gold by realizing Luck was going to take the next step. I'm pretty sure I drafted Reggie Bush in all 3 of my leagues ahead of Luck choosing to struggle with QBBC in all 3. Damn you TRich and your ridiculous statements clouding the real info that should have been mined here.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Trent Richardson rb 2012--2014 45 601 1989 3.31 17 108 886 8.20 2 401.52 Karim Abdul-Jabbar rb 1996--1998 47 860 2968 3.45 32 73 502 6.88 1 545.03 Errict Rhett rb 1994--1996 41 792 2757 3.48 21 40 240 6.00 1 431.74 Leonard Russell rb 1991--1993 43 689 2437 3.54 13 55 350 6.36 0 356.75 Andra Franklin rb 1981--1983 40 602 2158 3.58 22 6 15 2.50 1 355.3Lowest YPC by RB with 600 carries in their first three seasons.

Russell and Franklin were FB/HB Hybrids. Nice crowd he's running with there.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

as I posted earlier

"When it comes down to it, I want to say I've been doing my job because every time I go in and (we) play-action, somebody's wide open. If they're trying to stop me and Andrew Luck is having a good day or Boom (Herron) is having a good day, I'm doing good because they're distracted by me and they can't stop the other guys. I'm doing my job."

Maybe he should join the Pacers after the football season and distract opposing players when they're shooting free throws.

 

[pizzatyme]

He slows down the defense so Boom looks that much faster. Same for Wayne and TY. The Colts need speed on the field and they know it. They do just enough to win and just enough to stoke their egos (yes, I'm talking to you Ryan Grigson!).

 

[cstu]

NAME POS YRs G RSH RSHYD YD/RSH RSHTD REC RECYD YD/REC RECTD FANT PT1 Trent Richardson rb 2012--2014 45 601 1989 3.31 17 108 886 8.20 2 401.52 Karim Abdul-Jabbar rb 1996--1998 47 860 2968 3.45 32 73 502 6.88 1 545.03 Errict Rhett rb 1994--1996 41 792 2757 3.48 21 40 240 6.00 1 431.74 Leonard Russell rb 1991--1993 43 689 2437 3.54 13 55 350 6.36 0 356.75 Andra Franklin rb 1981--1983 40 602 2158 3.58 22 6 15 2.50 1 355.3Lowest YPC by RB with 600 carries in their first three seasons.

Russell and Franklin were FB/HB Hybrids. Nice crowd he's running with there.

I've said since last year that he should be a FB. He's a very good receiver and he'd have a role in the NFL. Starting RB is not it for him.

 

[RBM]

He slows down the defense so Boom looks that much faster. Same for Wayne and TY. The Colts need speed on the field and they know it. They do just enough to win and just enough to stoke their egos (yes, I'm talking to you Ryan Grigson!).

With the (appx) 27th pick....The Indy Colts select Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin

 

[pizzatyme]

He slows down the defense so Boom looks that much faster. Same for Wayne and TY. The Colts need speed on the field and they know it. They do just enough to win and just enough to stoke their egos (yes, I'm talking to you Ryan Grigson!).

With the (appx) 27th pick....The Indy Colts select Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin

LOL I hope like hell you're wrong! We need OL and any breathing DB to replace Greg Toler. We are okay at RB (maybe pick up a FA to back up Herron/Bradshaw/Richardson).

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

He slows down the defense so Boom looks that much faster. Same for Wayne and TY. The Colts need speed on the field and they know it. They do just enough to win and just enough to stoke their egos (yes, I'm talking to you Ryan Grigson!).

With the (appx) 27th pick....The Indy Colts select Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin

LOL I hope like hell you're wrong! We need OL and any breathing DB to replace Greg Toler. We are okay at RB (maybe pick up a FA to back up Herron/Bradshaw/Richardson).

They should draft a rb in the 3rd or 4th. Just go with Herron, Bradshaw and rookie RB.

Agreed that Indy should not waste a 1st round pick on a rb.

I am a big advocate of Herron, so maybe my view is skewed.

 

[Boone22]

He slows down the defense so Boom looks that much faster. Same for Wayne and TY. The Colts need speed on the field and they know it. They do just enough to win and just enough to stoke their egos (yes, I'm talking to you Ryan Grigson!).

With the (appx) 27th pick....The Indy Colts select Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin

LOL I hope like hell you're wrong! We need OL and any breathing DB to replace Greg Toler. We are okay at RB (maybe pick up a FA to back up Herron/Bradshaw/Richardson).

They should draft a rb in the 3rd or 4th. Just go with Herron, Bradshaw and rookie RB. Agreed that Indy should not waste a 1st round pick on a rb.

I am a big advocate of Herron, so maybe my view is skewed.

They still have Ballard too. Not sure how he will recover from his injury but if they resign Bradshaw, they have; Bradshaw, Herron, Ballard, and Richardson.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

He slows down the defense so Boom looks that much faster. Same for Wayne and TY. The Colts need speed on the field and they know it. They do just enough to win and just enough to stoke their egos (yes, I'm talking to you Ryan Grigson!).

With the (appx) 27th pick....The Indy Colts select Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin

LOL I hope like hell you're wrong! We need OL and any breathing DB to replace Greg Toler. We are okay at RB (maybe pick up a FA to back up Herron/Bradshaw/Richardson).

They should draft a rb in the 3rd or 4th. Just go with Herron, Bradshaw and rookie RB. Agreed that Indy should not waste a 1st round pick on a rb.

I am a big advocate of Herron, so maybe my view is skewed.

They still have Ballard too. Not sure how he will recover from his injury but if they resign Bradshaw, they have; Bradshaw, Herron, Ballard, and Richardson.

I don't think it is likely they keep Richardson and his 3.1 million dollar base salary in 2015. I think as long as they cut him prior to June 1st he won't count anything against the cap. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[msommer]

He slows down the defense so Boom looks that much faster. Same for Wayne and TY. The Colts need speed on the field and they know it. They do just enough to win and just enough to stoke their egos (yes, I'm talking to you Ryan Grigson!).

With the (appx) 27th pick....The Indy Colts select Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin

LOL I hope like hell you're wrong! We need OL and any breathing DB to replace Greg Toler. We are okay at RB (maybe pick up a FA to back up Herron/Bradshaw/Richardson).

They should draft a rb in the 3rd or 4th. Just go with Herron, Bradshaw and rookie RB. Agreed that Indy should not waste a 1st round pick on a rb.

I am a big advocate of Herron, so maybe my view is skewed.

They still have Ballard too. Not sure how he will recover from his injury but if they resign Bradshaw, they have; Bradshaw, Herron, Ballard, and Richardson.

I don't think it is likely they keep Richardson and his 3.1 million dollar base salary in 2015. I think as long as they cut him prior to June 1st he won't count anything against the cap. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Rookie contract is guaranteed when you're picked high

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

 

[georg013]

People hoping Indy doesnt draft a rb early are delusionally praying Herron or Ballard is their ticket to fantasy glory. They are marginal talents. Sorry to bust your bubble.

 

[cstu]

I had forgotten that his contract was guaranteed. The Browns look like geniuses for getting a 1st and out of his lousy contract.

 

[georg013]

Wow...I spent the 1.02 to acquire him three seasons ago and thought he would anchor my RB corps for at least a decade. Stood by this kid through thick and thin until it became clear that the excuses were starting to pile up. Moved Trent Richardson and TE Larry Donnell for Isaiah Crowell. Thought maybe I'd given up too much. Then this comes out and I feel better:

Trent Richardson is listed as questionable for the Wild Card Round due to an illness.

This could be a convenient excuse for the Colts to phase Richardson out of their offense entirely, something OC Pep Hamilton basically did in last year's playoffs. Richardson touched the ball once in the Wild Card Round and three times in the Divisional Round. We expect Dan Herron to operate as Indy's lead runner against the Bengals, and wouldn't be the least bit surprised if UDFA Zurlon Tipton played ahead of T-Rich.


Yet another excuse for this guy's inability to generate any offense. Can his value get any lower? Anyone buying hoping that he goes Mark Ingram and figures it out? What the hell happened?

 

[Archer]

stuck with him in 4 dynasty leagues

 

[georg013]

stuck with him in 4 dynasty leagues

Maybe his next team will be a perfect fit. Perhaps he needs a different system.

 

[starks]

Traded this bag of poo for 2 first rounders last year after he was traded to colts. Turned that into Mike Evans and whoever falls to me at the two pick this year between Gordon and Gurley.

#CSB

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Traded this bag of poo for 2 first rounders last year after he was traded to colts. Turned that into Mike Evans and whoever falls to me at the two pick this year between Gordon and Gurley.

#CSB

Well done.

I did something similar: turned Trent into Antonio Brown+ after the trade to the Colts in one league.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

could I get this thread stickied?

 

[Raider Nation]

The way Trent expertly handed Herron some Gatorade there was well worth a 1st-round pick.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

forget the jokes and emoticons for a minute

ima come right out and say it

ahmad bradshaw boom herron will shut this thread down forever

MARK IT DOWN!!!!4!

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

is it possible to be voted game mvp simply for sitting out?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I think Trent's theory why he should be MVP would be something like Cin spent all week preparing for him and his being out left them unprepared to handle Luck, TY & Boom.

 

[Donnybrook]

He should enjoy these final few games in a Colts uniform. The Colts should be able to find a water boy that is willing to work for less than 3 million a year.

 

[cstu]

He should enjoy these final few games in a Colts uniform. The Colts should be able to find a water boy that is willing to work for less than 3 million a year.

I'm willing to bet they sign a UDFA after the draft who puts up a better YPC than Trent (out on a limb, I know).

 

[RBM]

Assume he will be able to get a job next year. He'd be a good 3rd down back. Good blocker and has good hands.

 

[georg013]

Ameer Abdullah. Mark it down.

 

[Todem]

Assume he will be able to get a job next year. He'd be a good 3rd down back. Good blocker and has good hands.

Let go RBM....just let it go.

He is utter garbage. Even as a 3rd down back IMO. He is not worthy of a roster spot. He will be a 3rd down back if he signs for the NFL minimum. And then he has to make the cut.

It's a stretch IMO. This guy is going down as a legendary bust. Incredible. I also completely whiffed on him. Never saw it coming based on his game and career at Alabama. Even his rookie year with the Browns...he was dinged up but ran very hard and had a nose for the end zone.

The guy fell apart fast.

 

[georg013]

Assume he will be able to get a job next year. He'd be a good 3rd down back. Good blocker and has good hands.

Let go RBM....just let it go.

He is utter garbage. Even as a 3rd down back IMO. He is not worthy of a roster spot. He will be a 3rd down back if he signs for the NFL minimum. And then he has to make the cut.

It's a stretch IMO. This guy is going down as a legendary bust. Incredible. I also completely whiffed on him. Never saw it coming based on his game and career at Alabama. Even his rookie year with the Browns...he was dinged up but ran very hard and had a nose for the end zone.

The guy fell apart fast.

He is still young enough to turn it around a la Ingram.....(snicker)

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Assume he will be able to get a job next year. He'd be a good 3rd down back. Good blocker and has good hands.

Some one said it earlier, but I'm thinking FB based on the same theory.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Trent Richardson was held without a touch in Indianapolis' Wild Card win over the Bengals.

Richardson was held off the field until the fourth quarter, where he briefly checked in following Dan Herron's second fumble. He was gone as soon as he appeared, however, with Zurlon Tipton running as "Boom's" clear No. 2. Announcer Jim Nantz blamed the no-show on T-Rich's supposed "illness," but Richardson would have battled through his cold in a playoff game had the Colts really wanted him to. The biggest trade mistake in recent memory, T-Rich now has four touches across three career playoff appearances.

Jan 4 - 4:31 PM

 

[EBF]

:-|

What an epic disappointment this guy has been.

I wonder what his dynasty ADP will be next season (and don't say undrafted). Just genuinely curious what the market price will be. Would a third round rookie pick be overpaying at this point?

 

[amnesiac]

:-|

What an epic disappointment this guy has been.

I wonder what his dynasty ADP will be next season (and don't say undrafted). Just genuinely curious what the market price will be. Would a third round rookie pick be overpaying at this point?

lol. i traded him in the middle of last season for what ended up being 2.1 and 3.1 and got laughed at.

and yes, i'd say a third is overpaying.