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LeSean McCoy. Not so sure they could trade for him by just giving Hernandez, but his receiving skills and ability to be featured will make him even deadlier with Brady than he already is in Philly.However, I believe Vereen can become that RB.
how would ridley do in his third year as the focal point of a cam cameron offense?so far, the guy's doin' his job.
You act like everyone in the league has a pass rush like the Giants, or the total defense that the Ravens have.'jurb26 said:'Kool-Aid Larry said:Pretty much how I see it too.I forgot about the Gronk injury for the SB. Good call.The fact still remains that NYG adapted and played NE significantly better the 2nd time around. Perhaps the rest of the league will look at what Balt, NYG and Pitt (a team I didn't even mention before) did and be better prepared to slow the Pats down.
You are arguing against something that you are interpreting incorrectly. If you look at my original post, I clearly defined what I meant by "elite". Those four players are, by that definition, elite. Quite frankly I dont think there is much arguement to make against that fact. There is enough film on these guys to show how much they manhandle single coverage. With regards to the numbers you posted, you found 2 games out of the 19 the Pats played where they were "stopped" (really more like slowed down, but thats semantics). Not to mention that in one of those games Gronk was hurt severly. There is also the fact that Lloyd was present in neither of those games, which was a premise of what I wrote. Having Lloyd takes them to another level. The reality is that there are probably no teams with the personel to shut them down consistently. Not saying it cant happen because this is the NFL. In a given game, a team could get enough quick pressure to throw them off. But that will be far from the norm.'jurb26 said:
All good points, but they were all in the context of last year's team. 85 was a non-factor all year and Gronk was hurt for the SB. This made the Pats easier to contain in the final game. Add speed that must be respected on the outside and a healthy gronk to make the Blackburn mismatch favor NE and I think there is possibility that OP prediction makes some sense. I'm not making injury excuses, Giants implemented a great scheme to win. I am buying in to the idea that the personnel mix the Pats have lined up for this year will stretch most teams beyond their ability to adequately defend the field.
I wasn't saying you should project injuries, just curious if that was why Gaffney and Branch had that many receptions. Maybe I'm blinded by my love for Lloyd in 2012, but I don't think they'll take him out much and/or play a lot of 3WR sets. The 2WR/2TE set should be a staple for them.Some food for thought from the Brandon Lloyd thread:'David Yudkin said:
When taking that into account, it appears that Gronk, Hernandez, Welker, and Lloyd will all see well over 80% of the snaps (not necessarily together) and the other WRs will see maybe 30-40% and you'd have to think they won't be the first or second option on those plays.
The Pats were second in yardage and third in points scored last year. A case can be made they improved this year.
And all 6 of those guys had at least 97 targets last year. I agree that Brady will have better options this year, but in terms of fantasy I think it could really cut into individual numbers.
Don't you also have to consider that those numbers may be the way they are because they really lacked WR depth after Welker and Branch. THey're adding 2 players who led their team in receiving.
A case can be made for just about anything until they actually play the games. Nothing really that unique about them.
How are you defining best? Yards? Points? Yards per play? Not being combative, just looking to generate discussion and understand your POV.As far as what is unique about them, what other team in the NFL is a Top 3 Passing Yardage offense with the majority of targets/yards coming from two TEs and a slot WR?
If you look at NE's schedule, it's pretty soft again this year (hypothetically).
Only potential losses are @BAL, HOU, and SF. They could slip up against Denver or the Jets once but I can't see them losing over 3 games.
I would actually say that's exactly what it means. Lloyd is a clear improvement over the personel they had in his position last season (ochocinco, branch, etc). And as for Lloyd running his routes hard, he took less money to come to NE. I don't expect him to get pouty, I think he knows what he's getting into. Not to mention the fact that I don't think there will be too many games where he only gets 2 or 3 balls thrown his way. The pats should be throwing early and often.
I appreciate the well-thought out post, but I need to disagree with you here. Take a look at this chart. This is the slope from QB1 to QB12 for each of the last eight years. The top lavender line is last year, and the green line right below it is 2007. This shows Brady '07, Brees '11, Rodgers '11, Brady '11, Stafford '11 and Newton '11 as pretty significant standouts. Everything else lines up pretty normally, while showing the upward trend across the league in performance.So, while it's possible that Brady COULD be in for a special year (he's #1 QB on my rankings), it's not reasonable to conclude the above. The trend in QB performance is most definitely pointing upward, but that doesn't mean that last year wasn't an outlier.
haha....just reread the op, and while he was a bit optimistic overall, he was money on the attempts.
as a bit of a post mortem post, football outsiders has the pats leading the league this past year in td/drive at .333, which is nearly identical to 2011 and the average league leader, but not at that freakish .400 level I was hoping for.although, hernandez missed quite a bit of time.
What about AP post-injury?
I hear this every year, so I thought I'd take a look now that the season's over.2 of their 4 losses this year were to superbowl teams by a combined 8 points.they played 6 of the 11 playoff teams, finishing 3-3.balt played 6 games against 5 playoff teams.sf played 5 games against 4 playoff teams.atl played 2 playoff teams.hou played 7 games aganst 6 playoff teamsden played against 5 playoff teams.gb played 6 games against 5 playoff teams.as for aggregate w/l totals, their total opponents' w/l was around .500, which is about the same as hou, sf, sea, balt, was, and gb, with den finishing 28th at 117-139, indy and cincy 30th and 31st, and atl last. minny was the playoff team with the toughest aggregate, finishing 8th at 132-122 --- about the same as giants and saints.If you look at NE's schedule, it's pretty soft again this year (hypothetically).
