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simey said:
I have always loved westerns. My favorite western movie is Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.  My favorite television western series is The Big Valley. I love The Wild Wild West too, although I think of it as more of a mix of James Bond type western. Whenever I visit my grandmother in the nursing home at lunch, we always watch Gunsmoke on TVLand. 
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Same. It was pretty much the first real (not children's) movie I saw in a theater. 1969, I was 7. For decades I called it my favorite movie period, not just western. I was teased for years by my mom telling how I bawled hard at the ending and couldn't get myself together.  :cry:

 
My top 5 Westerns Alltime

1.  Tombstone

2.  Open Range

3.  The Revenant

4.  The Good the Bad and the Ugly

5.  Rio Bravo

 
Love the Western.

Newer ones: I'd call "No Country for Old Men" Westernish, that was great. "Hell or Highwater" had great moments, great ending scene. Did not see "Hostiles" that looked great, will get around to it soon.

My top 5:

1. Unforgiven

2. Butch Cassidy

3. 3:10 to Yuma (remake)

4. Open Range

5. Dances With Wolves

 
As far as recent movies go, I thoroughly enjoyed the new magnificent 7 as well as True Grit.. Before those, Clint Eastwood’s Unforgiven. 

When I was a kid my favorite was El Dorado but I’ve seen it soooo many times. I really like the Shootist and Hondo. 

I know this is blasphamy, but I don’t really like the Clint Eastwood westerns (that he don’t direct) that I have seen. I’ve tried a few too. 

 
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swc does westerns i liked broken trail a lot i did not see that one mentioned also liked godless recently on nextflcks take that to the bank brohans 

 
Love a good western.  My favorites

1.  The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

2.  Once Upon a Time in the West

3.  True Grit

4.  The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

5.  For a Few Dollars More

 
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wikkidpissah said:
This thread ain't big enough for both of us....
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 I’m still going to keep trying!

To be fair I think it has a lot more to do with the cinematography of the 70s which I’m not really a big fan of. I am not opposed to watching movies that have long down times or very little dialogue ,but something about the cinematography of the 70s that just doesn’t capture me.

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
 I’m still going to keep trying!

To be fair I think it has a lot more to do with the cinematography of the 70s which I’m not really a big fan of. I am not opposed to watching movies that have long down times or very little dialogue ,but something about the cinematography of the 70s that just doesn’t capture me.
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oh, i was just waitin' for somebody to say sumn so i could use that line and, cept for CM's "Brokeback" (dont go there, gf!), yours was the 1st

 
  1. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
  2. Red River
  3. She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
  4. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
  5. The Long Riders
the list might be different tomorrow

 
How about underrated Westerns

Last of the Dogmen

Also, one about a Canadian outlaw that is relatively new that I really enjoyed.  Can't recall the name.

 
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Hot Diggity Dog said:
Best line in a western ever: 

"Dieing ain't much of a livin."
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For whatever reason, one quote / scene that I'll never forget is Clint in Hang 'em High:

You don't remember me, do you?

No.

[pulls down the bandana around his neck to show the scar] when you hang a man you better look at him

 
Coincidentally, I'm currently reading a Western novel.  It's not my favorite genre but I try to work the occasional one into my queue.

Tom Mix and Pancho Villa is a 1982 book by Clifford Irving.  Mix's Hollywood agent once claimed the cowboy once rode with the Villistas (he hadn't) so Irving conjured up a yarn based on the lie.  Irving gained notoriety a decade earlier for writing a fake autobiography of Howard Hughes but in later life, he always insisted he'd rather be remembered as the author of Mix & Villa instead.

The book is pretty entertaining.  It's written in first person, past tense so the Mix character has a lifetime of perspective on his actions as a young man.  Irving was a prolific writer and he knows how to string a plot together.  Some of the supporting characters are obvious plot devices but he makes the title characters believable and three dimensional.  

 
CletiusMaximus said:
For whatever reason, one quote / scene that I'll never forget is Clint in Hang 'em High:

You don't remember me, do you?

No.

[pulls down the bandana around his neck to show the scar] when you hang a man you better look at him
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Eastwood could easily have five of the top 10 best quotes ever. Unforgiven has several great lines as well. Even Gene Hackman in Unforgiven has great lines.  if I ever see again Bob , I'm just going to start shooting and consider it self-defense.

 
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CletiusMaximus said:
For whatever reason, one quote / scene that I'll never forget is Clint in Hang 'em High:

You don't remember me, do you?

No.

[pulls down the bandana around his neck to show the scar] when you hang a man you better look at him
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Hang 'em High is kind of a weird movie.  It's like a Hollywood version of a Spaghetti western with all the vengeance and violence but a different visual style.

 
For fans of older westerns, there are two streaming apps for (at least) Roku: Six Gun Theater and Seven Gun Theater.

Six Gun is mostly 30s & 40s stuff like Roy Rogers and early Wayne. Most are hokey as hell, but can be fun.

Seven Gun, I've only watched a few times and it seems to be more 60s/70s imports (I had never heard of any of the movies I've watched there). Some really weird stuff on this channel.

Man, hard to pick a Top 5 for me. I'd say those I enjoy the most are Silverado, Tombstone, El Dorado, Lonesome Dove, and Rio Bravo.

For some reason I despise Rio Lobo, which is surprising since - as someone noted above - it's the same movie as Rio Bravo and El Dorado.

I'm far from a cinephile, but I think the best two western films are probably Unforgiven and Liberty Valance. But then I think those are both deserving of high rankings regardless of genre.

 
dickey moe said:
I haven't seen the Magnificent Seven remake, but is it as bad as I think it probably is?
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Was that a QT movie? It looked awful. I wonder if anyone will ever remake The Magnificent Seven back into a samurai movie? There is a huge audience for that right now imo.

 
Maybe I missed it, I only skimmed but no western thread can go on without being clear about how great these 2 films are: 

This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend

A man can lie, steal... and even kill. But as long as he hangs on to his pride, he's still a man. All a woman has to do is slip - once. And she's a "tramp!" Must be a great comfort to you to be a man.

 
Ilov80s said:
Maybe I missed it, I only skimmed but no western thread can go on without being clear about how great these 2 films are: 

This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend

A man can lie, steal... and even kill. But as long as he hangs on to his pride, he's still a man. All a woman has to do is slip - once. And she's a "tramp!" Must be a great comfort to you to be a man.
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Liberty Valence has gotten a few mentions in this thread.  That movie seems to have gained in reputation vs. Ford's other Westerns, perhaps partly because Indians play a less prominent role than in the cavalry trilogy or The Searchers.

Johnny Guitar is still a strange movie over 60 years later.   The characters just seem to happen to find themselves in the old West.

 
Epic Problem said:
Steaming piece of feces that one. 
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I gave it a try - like any QT movie it had some moments that I thought were brilliant and the story/premise was decent enough.  The problem is just the over the top violence and language.  Once or twice is good enough but after a while it’s like, WE GET IT ALREADY.

 
Guess I would rate my top 5 as

Searchers

My darling Clementine

Ft. Apache

Man who shot Liberty Valance

Outlaw Josey Wales

 
AAABatteries said:
I gave it a try - like any QT movie it had some moments that I thought were brilliant and the story/premise was decent enough.  The problem is just the over the top violence and language.  Once or twice is good enough but after a while it’s like, WE GET IT ALREADY.
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Tarentino wasn't involved in The Magnificent Seven 2.0.  Antoine Fuqua was the director.  I think he's best known for Training Day.

 
Eephus said:
Liberty Valence has gotten a few mentions in this thread.  That movie seems to have gained in reputation vs. Ford's other Westerns, perhaps partly because Indians play a less prominent role than in the cavalry trilogy or The Searchers.
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Maybe that's part of it, but I just think The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is timeless and the Stewart/Wayne dynamic in this movie is one of cinema's best.

Woody Strode's character in this (& other Wayne movies) has not aged well, though.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Maybe that's part of it, but I just think The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is timeless and the Stewart/Wayne dynamic in this movie is one of cinema's best.

Woody Strode's character in this (& other Wayne movies) has not aged well, though.
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Maybe modern audiences identify more with the closing of the frontier.  Liberty Valance is the most modern feeling of Ford's Westerns.

 
Eephus said:
Maybe modern audiences identify more with the closing of the frontier.  Liberty Valance is the most modern feeling of Ford's Westerns.
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Sure.

The Searchers kind of got ret-conned into "modern" long after the fact, but I don't think it was made the way it's considered nowadays.

 
 McAdam: Awful lot of law for a little cowtown.

Wyatt Earp: This is the kind of cowtown that needs a lot of law.
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High Spade: Don't seem right for people to go around killing nice folks like...

Lola Manners: He's not "people". He's Waco Johnny Dean.
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