The Wire (1 Viewer)

[Nipsey]

I thought it was awesome. Every tussle the guy had with the biggest of badasses and to go out like that. Unexpected and shocking. Kept with the real vibe of the show and like others have said, the way it happened and the aftermath carried meaning. They could have ended him with a Matrix-like arming up scene followed by bullets spilling everywhere but that wasn't the show.

 

[Raider Nation]

I thought it was awesome. Every tussle the guy had with the biggest of badasses and to go out like that. Unexpected and shocking. Kept with the real vibe of the show and like others have said, the way it happened and the aftermath carried meaning. They could have ended him with a Matrix-like arming up scene followed by bullets spilling everywhere but that wasn't the show.

Tell it to Stringer.

 

[Bobcat10]

On season 4 right now...love this show.

I find myself walking around and saying "Shhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit" from time to time...

 

[Ned]

Am I the only one who found Omar's death ... unsatisfying?

You have this badass who scares the hell out of everyone for five seasons, and instead of a possible Marlo/Omar showdown, he gets taken out by a little hopper. Even the way the scene was shot was anti-climactic. One second he's buying cigarettes, and the next second he's laying on the ground. No buildup, no tension, no suspense. Nothing. It wasn't a death befitting a television icon.

I disagree on this one. It was a perfect death. No banger, not Stringer, not Marlo, no one, could get near Omar without getting smoked. The only way to take him out, aside from global thermonuclear war (maybe), was exactly how it happened. And I think it was intentionally unsatisfying. Omar was The Man in the streets but once his body got to the morgue he was virtually anonymous. His body got mistagged even. Nobody knew or cared who he was. I think that was all very intentional.

I finally finished the show (been avoiding this thread like the plague). This is a fantastic breakdown of that scene.

 

[hooter311]

Michael K Williams (Omar) to play ODB in upcoming bio flick.

Awesome.

 

[Ned]

Michael K Williams (Omar) to play ODB in upcoming bio flick.Awesome.

He's great in Boardwalk Empire too (Chalky White).

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Am I the only one who found Omar's death ... unsatisfying?

You have this badass who scares the hell out of everyone for five seasons, and instead of a possible Marlo/Omar showdown, he gets taken out by a little hopper. Even the way the scene was shot was anti-climactic. One second he's buying cigarettes, and the next second he's laying on the ground. No buildup, no tension, no suspense. Nothing. It wasn't a death befitting a television icon.

I disagree on this one. It was a perfect death. No banger, not Stringer, not Marlo, no one, could get near Omar without getting smoked. The only way to take him out, aside from global thermonuclear war (maybe), was exactly how it happened. And I think it was intentionally unsatisfying. Omar was The Man in the streets but once his body got to the morgue he was virtually anonymous. His body got mistagged even. Nobody knew or cared who he was. I think that was all very intentional.

Omar always let his guard down around kids. It was inevitable.

 

[jdoggydogg]

At least he's not bitter:

David Simon is tired of your love for The Wire

Echoing that handful of commenters who balk at every Wire-related story on the Internet, David Simon has let it be known: He's pretty sick of all the public displays of affection for The Wire, and he finds the whole endless discussion and dissection of the show—particularly among those who only got into it after the series was already over—"wearying," to quote David Simon's most frequent complaint. In a typically contentious New York Times interview, the guy who would probably appreciate it if we didn't refer to him as "Wire creator" waxed crotchety over his exhaustion with all the too-late love for the show, which could have used that sort of attention when it was still on the air. Because, like the scrappy punk band that only sold a handful of records in its heyday, but now everyone is so into it, you just weren't there, man:

I do have a certain amused contempt for the number of people who walk sideways into the thing and act like they were there all along. It's selling more DVDs now than when it was on the air. But I'm indifferent to who thinks Omar is really cool now, or that this is the best scene or this is the best season. It was conceived of as a whole, and we did it as a whole. For people to be picking it apart now like it's a deck of cards or like they were there the whole time or they understood it the whole time—it's wearying. Because no one was there in the beginning, or the middle, or even at the end. Our numbers continued to decline from Season 2 on.

So yeah, thanks for nothing! Please show your character brackets to someone who gives a damn. Anyway, while Simon's "amused contempt" can definitely be read as some understandable bitterness about the way The Wire struggled, only to be appreciated long after it was dead like so many brilliant, starving artists, the complaints don't stop there. Above all, Simon is pretty sure you know nothing of his work, even—or rather, especially—if you were there as it was happening, and that goes double for the critics:
The number of people blogging television online — it's ridiculous. They don't know what we're building. And by the way, that's true for the people who say we're great. They don't know. It doesn't matter whether they love it or they hate it. It doesn't mean anything until there's a beginning, middle and an end. If you want television to be a serious storytelling medium, you're up against a lot of human dynamic that is arrayed against you. Not the least of which are people who arrived to The Wire late, planted their feet, and want to explain to everybody why it's so cool. Glad to hear it. But you weren't paying attention. You got led there at the end and generally speaking, you're asserting for the wrong things.

So in a way, like a battle against systemic corruption that we don't actually understand at all, you can't win with Simon: Even if you're there from episode to episode, discussing the storylines in the moment and eagerly anticipating their directions, you're just getting in the way of the big picture's completion. And if you came to the story after that beginning, middle, and end were finally in place, to assess it properly as a complete story, now you're "picking it apart like it's a deck of cards." And in either case, no matter what your final understanding of the story, well, chances are you weren't actually paying attention and, generally speaking, you are wrong and should shut it. About the only thing Simon will agree on? That Omar is "really cool"—"but it's wearying" to hear about it, he concludes. Just keep that to yourself from now on.

 

[Sarnoff]

The style of The Wire: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/04/09/the_wire_s_visual_style_watch_a_video_essay_by_erlend_lavik_video_.html

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

He was annoyed at the Grantland Bracket.

 

[Apple Jack]

At least he's not bitter:

David Simon is tired of your love for The Wire

Echoing that handful of commenters who balk at every Wire-related story on the Internet, David Simon has let it be known: He's pretty sick of all the public displays of affection for The Wire, and he finds the whole endless discussion and dissection of the show—particularly among those who only got into it after the series was already over—"wearying," to quote David Simon's most frequent complaint. In a typically contentious New York Times interview, the guy who would probably appreciate it if we didn't refer to him as "Wire creator" waxed crotchety over his exhaustion with all the too-late love for the show, which could have used that sort of attention when it was still on the air. Because, like the scrappy punk band that only sold a handful of records in its heyday, but now everyone is so into it, you just weren't there, man:

I do have a certain amused contempt for the number of people who walk sideways into the thing and act like they were there all along. It's selling more DVDs now than when it was on the air. But I'm indifferent to who thinks Omar is really cool now, or that this is the best scene or this is the best season. It was conceived of as a whole, and we did it as a whole. For people to be picking it apart now like it's a deck of cards or like they were there the whole time or they understood it the whole time—it's wearying. Because no one was there in the beginning, or the middle, or even at the end. Our numbers continued to decline from Season 2 on.

So yeah, thanks for nothing! Please show your character brackets to someone who gives a damn. Anyway, while Simon's "amused contempt" can definitely be read as some understandable bitterness about the way The Wire struggled, only to be appreciated long after it was dead like so many brilliant, starving artists, the complaints don't stop there. Above all, Simon is pretty sure you know nothing of his work, even—or rather, especially—if you were there as it was happening, and that goes double for the critics:
The number of people blogging television online — it's ridiculous. They don't know what we're building. And by the way, that's true for the people who say we're great. They don't know. It doesn't matter whether they love it or they hate it. It doesn't mean anything until there's a beginning, middle and an end. If you want television to be a serious storytelling medium, you're up against a lot of human dynamic that is arrayed against you. Not the least of which are people who arrived to The Wire late, planted their feet, and want to explain to everybody why it's so cool. Glad to hear it. But you weren't paying attention. You got led there at the end and generally speaking, you're asserting for the wrong things.

So in a way, like a battle against systemic corruption that we don't actually understand at all, you can't win with Simon: Even if you're there from episode to episode, discussing the storylines in the moment and eagerly anticipating their directions, you're just getting in the way of the big picture's completion. And if you came to the story after that beginning, middle, and end were finally in place, to assess it properly as a complete story, now you're "picking it apart like it's a deck of cards." And in either case, no matter what your final understanding of the story, well, chances are you weren't actually paying attention and, generally speaking, you are wrong and should shut it. About the only thing Simon will agree on? That Omar is "really cool"—"but it's wearying" to hear about it, he concludes. Just keep that to yourself from now on.

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

Really? Just because people didn't watch the show when it was on means they can't talk about how good it is? Seems sorta bitter to me.

 

[Ilov80s]

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

Really? Just because people didn't watch the show when it was on means they can't talk about how good it is? Seems sorta bitter to me.

He is just bitter it didn't get the deserved ratings and awards.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

Really? Just because people didn't watch the show when it was on means they can't talk about how good it is? Seems sorta bitter to me.

Seems to me like he might have had his ego bruised a bit by the occasional bad ratings. Do you think Vincent van Gogh painted so he could become rich and famous? Yeah art is always greats except for the artist.I liked your show DS but how about being less of a turd to people who only want to thank you for enjoying it.

 

[Apple Jack]

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

Really? Just because people didn't watch the show when it was on means they can't talk about how good it is? Seems sorta bitter to me.

Since then he's had Generation Kill and now he has Treme, which is amazing. It's not like he's struggling. He's past it and on to other things, not to mention, and probably most importantly, the show would have been easier to make had people watched at the time. He had to fight to keep it going after each season due to low numbers and deal with budget battles as a result, so he probably sees it all as a thanks for nothing kind of thing. A bunch of people showing up to the party long after it ended. Sounds more like mild annoyance than bitterness.

 

[Ilov80s]

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

Really? Just because people didn't watch the show when it was on means they can't talk about how good it is? Seems sorta bitter to me.

Seems to me like he might have had his ego bruised a bit by the occasional bad ratings. Do you think Vincent van Gogh painted so he could become rich and famous? Yeah art is always greats except for the artist.I liked your show DS but how about being less of a turd to people who only want to thank you for enjoying it.

Yeah Simon got plenty of money and acclaim. Poe had to pay to have most of his work published and died a failure. Simon could stand to be more grateful.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Michael K Williams (Omar) to play ODB in upcoming bio flick.Awesome.

I dont think I could think of a rapper Id rather have a movie made of, and MKW will kill as Dirt McGirt.Hell, maybe not even any other musician besides Bob Marley and I cant picture any actor right now pulling that off. Don Cheadle as Miles Davis had me intrigued but I think that fell through.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Am I the only one who found Omar's death ... unsatisfying?

You have this badass who scares the hell out of everyone for five seasons, and instead of a possible Marlo/Omar showdown, he gets taken out by a little hopper. Even the way the scene was shot was anti-climactic. One second he's buying cigarettes, and the next second he's laying on the ground. No buildup, no tension, no suspense. Nothing. It wasn't a death befitting a television icon.

I disagree on this one. It was a perfect death. No banger, not Stringer, not Marlo, no one, could get near Omar without getting smoked. The only way to take him out, aside from global thermonuclear war (maybe), was exactly how it happened. And I think it was intentionally unsatisfying. Omar was The Man in the streets but once his body got to the morgue he was virtually anonymous. His body got mistagged even. Nobody knew or cared who he was. I think that was all very intentional.

Hmmm. I endorse this reasoning.

Agreed, although Im with you on it being unsatisfying albeit fitting. 1 of my only complaints with the show.

 

[Chaka]

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

Really? Just because people didn't watch the show when it was on means they can't talk about how good it is? Seems sorta bitter to me.

Since then he's had Generation Kill and now he has Treme, which is amazing. It's not like he's struggling. He's past it and on to other things, not to mention, and probably most importantly, the show would have been easier to make had people watched at the time. He had to fight to keep it going after each season due to low numbers and deal with budget battles as a result, so he probably sees it all as a thanks for nothing kind of thing. A bunch of people showing up to the party long after it ended. Sounds more like mild annoyance than bitterness.

He's bitter because people most likely only know him as "The Wire Guy". How are the ratings for Treme?

 

[Apple Jack]

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

Really? Just because people didn't watch the show when it was on means they can't talk about how good it is? Seems sorta bitter to me.

Since then he's had Generation Kill and now he has Treme, which is amazing. It's not like he's struggling. He's past it and on to other things, not to mention, and probably most importantly, the show would have been easier to make had people watched at the time. He had to fight to keep it going after each season due to low numbers and deal with budget battles as a result, so he probably sees it all as a thanks for nothing kind of thing. A bunch of people showing up to the party long after it ended. Sounds more like mild annoyance than bitterness.

He's bitter because people most likely only know him as "The Wire Guy". How are the ratings for Treme?

Not good. But it's a phenomenal show and a very important show.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

Really? Just because people didn't watch the show when it was on means they can't talk about how good it is? Seems sorta bitter to me.

Since then he's had Generation Kill and now he has Treme, which is amazing. It's not like he's struggling. He's past it and on to other things, not to mention, and probably most importantly, the show would have been easier to make had people watched at the time. He had to fight to keep it going after each season due to low numbers and deal with budget battles as a result, so he probably sees it all as a thanks for nothing kind of thing. A bunch of people showing up to the party long after it ended. Sounds more like mild annoyance than bitterness.

He's bitter because people most likely only know him as "The Wire Guy". How are the ratings for Treme?

Not good. But it's a phenomenal show and a very important show.

What the hell is Treme even about? Simon should love and hate me. I have watched the Wire from inception and always preached to others to watch it. I still trumpet its brilliance and have gotten many people to watch it after the fact. I, however, have never watched a single other thing he has done.

 

[comfortably numb]

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

Really? Just because people didn't watch the show when it was on means they can't talk about how good it is? Seems sorta bitter to me.

Since then he's had Generation Kill and now he has Treme, which is amazing. It's not like he's struggling. He's past it and on to other things, not to mention, and probably most importantly, the show would have been easier to make had people watched at the time. He had to fight to keep it going after each season due to low numbers and deal with budget battles as a result, so he probably sees it all as a thanks for nothing kind of thing. A bunch of people showing up to the party long after it ended. Sounds more like mild annoyance than bitterness.

He's bitter because people most likely only know him as "The Wire Guy". How are the ratings for Treme?

I can't wait til he starts going all Billy Bob Thornton when he is doing interviews on his band, and someone mentions his acting career.

 

[Apple Jack]

I ####ing love that guy. And of course, he's right on all points.

Really? Just because people didn't watch the show when it was on means they can't talk about how good it is? Seems sorta bitter to me.

Since then he's had Generation Kill and now he has Treme, which is amazing. It's not like he's struggling. He's past it and on to other things, not to mention, and probably most importantly, the show would have been easier to make had people watched at the time. He had to fight to keep it going after each season due to low numbers and deal with budget battles as a result, so he probably sees it all as a thanks for nothing kind of thing. A bunch of people showing up to the party long after it ended. Sounds more like mild annoyance than bitterness.

He's bitter because people most likely only know him as "The Wire Guy". How are the ratings for Treme?

Not good. But it's a phenomenal show and a very important show.

What the hell is Treme even about? Simon should love and hate me. I have watched the Wire from inception and always preached to others to watch it. I still trumpet its brilliance and have gotten many people to watch it after the fact. I, however, have never watched a single other thing he has done.

Post-Katrina New Orleans. Anybody who is a music fan is out of their minds to not watch it.

 

[jdoggydogg]

At least he's not bitter:

David Simon is tired of your love for The Wire

Echoing that handful of commenters who balk at every Wire-related story on the Internet, David Simon has let it be known: He's pretty sick of all the public displays of affection for The Wire, and he finds the whole endless discussion and dissection of the show—particularly among those who only got into it after the series was already over—"wearying," to quote David Simon's most frequent complaint. In a typically contentious New York Times interview, the guy who would probably appreciate it if we didn't refer to him as "Wire creator" waxed crotchety over his exhaustion with all the too-late love for the show, which could have used that sort of attention when it was still on the air. Because, like the scrappy punk band that only sold a handful of records in its heyday, but now everyone is so into it, you just weren't there, man:

I do have a certain amused contempt for the number of people who walk sideways into the thing and act like they were there all along. It's selling more DVDs now than when it was on the air. But I'm indifferent to who thinks Omar is really cool now, or that this is the best scene or this is the best season. It was conceived of as a whole, and we did it as a whole. For people to be picking it apart now like it's a deck of cards or like they were there the whole time or they understood it the whole time—it's wearying. Because no one was there in the beginning, or the middle, or even at the end. Our numbers continued to decline from Season 2 on.

So yeah, thanks for nothing! Please show your character brackets to someone who gives a damn. Anyway, while Simon's "amused contempt" can definitely be read as some understandable bitterness about the way The Wire struggled, only to be appreciated long after it was dead like so many brilliant, starving artists, the complaints don't stop there. Above all, Simon is pretty sure you know nothing of his work, even—or rather, especially—if you were there as it was happening, and that goes double for the critics:
The number of people blogging television online — it's ridiculous. They don't know what we're building. And by the way, that's true for the people who say we're great. They don't know. It doesn't matter whether they love it or they hate it. It doesn't mean anything until there's a beginning, middle and an end. If you want television to be a serious storytelling medium, you're up against a lot of human dynamic that is arrayed against you. Not the least of which are people who arrived to The Wire late, planted their feet, and want to explain to everybody why it's so cool. Glad to hear it. But you weren't paying attention. You got led there at the end and generally speaking, you're asserting for the wrong things.

So in a way, like a battle against systemic corruption that we don't actually understand at all, you can't win with Simon: Even if you're there from episode to episode, discussing the storylines in the moment and eagerly anticipating their directions, you're just getting in the way of the big picture's completion. And if you came to the story after that beginning, middle, and end were finally in place, to assess it properly as a complete story, now you're "picking it apart like it's a deck of cards." And in either case, no matter what your final understanding of the story, well, chances are you weren't actually paying attention and, generally speaking, you are wrong and should shut it. About the only thing Simon will agree on? That Omar is "really cool"—"but it's wearying" to hear about it, he concludes. Just keep that to yourself from now on.

Yeah, no way around it: he sounds like a bitter tool.

 

[Raider Nation]

Splain something to me please. I've watched the episode several times and I still can't piece it together.

McNulty's brother knew he screwed up the Frank Sobotka thing when he called to speak with Busmalis from Oz. The secretary told him that Kutras no longer works in San Diego, but rather he is now with CTU in Washington. Brother McNulty then slumped in his chair, realizing what's up. He later apologizes to Daniels about the whole thing.

Can someone walk me through what happened here, and how exactly he f'd up?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Am I the only one who found Omar's death ... unsatisfying?

You have this badass who scares the hell out of everyone for five seasons, and instead of a possible Marlo/Omar showdown, he gets taken out by a little hopper. Even the way the scene was shot was anti-climactic. One second he's buying cigarettes, and the next second he's laying on the ground. No buildup, no tension, no suspense. Nothing. It wasn't a death befitting a television icon.

That was the point, right? We've been taught by movies and TV that the more monumental the character, the more fantastic/dramatic the death. But that's not how real life works. Sometimes you survive an epic shootout with professional hitters in an apartment room by jumping out of a window, and sometimes you're in the wrong packy at the wrong time.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Splain something to me please. I've watched the episode several times and I still can't piece it together.McNulty's brother knew he screwed up the Frank Sobotka thing when he called to speak with Busmalis from Oz. The secretary told him that Kutras no longer works in San Diego, but rather he is now with CTU in Washington. Brother McNulty then slumped in his chair, realizing what's up. He later apologizes to Daniels about the whole thing.Can someone walk me through what happened here, and how exactly he f'd up?

McNulty's brother?

 

[Raider Nation]

Splain something to me please. I've watched the episode several times and I still can't piece it together.McNulty's brother knew he screwed up the Frank Sobotka thing when he called to speak with Busmalis from Oz. The secretary told him that Kutras no longer works in San Diego, but rather he is now with CTU in Washington. Brother McNulty then slumped in his chair, realizing what's up. He later apologizes to Daniels about the whole thing.Can someone walk me through what happened here, and how exactly he f'd up?

McNulty's brother?

Yes. Mr. FBI.Edit. Should I put "brother" in quotes?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Splain something to me please. I've watched the episode several times and I still can't piece it together.McNulty's brother knew he screwed up the Frank Sobotka thing when he called to speak with Busmalis from Oz. The secretary told him that Kutras no longer works in San Diego, but rather he is now with CTU in Washington. Brother McNulty then slumped in his chair, realizing what's up. He later apologizes to Daniels about the whole thing.Can someone walk me through what happened here, and how exactly he f'd up?

McNulty's brother?

Yes. Mr. FBI.Edit. Should I put "brother" in quotes?

IIRC, it was because he realized that the leak came from within his own house, via Kutris. IIRC, there's a scene where Kutris sees something on the FBI intranet about the investigation into the Greek, Kutris phones the Greek, and the whole operation goes into shutdown mode.Here's what Wikipedia says about Kutris:

Koutris is a special agent in the FBI's counter-terrorism unit who feeds information on the bureau’s activity to The Greek. He is responsible for telling The Greek about an investigation by the Baltimore Police Department and the local FBI office, and gives The Greek warning enough to temporarily shut down his smuggling operation. He is rewarded with information on a large shipment of drugs that he seizes on the FBI’s behalf. Koutris is also responsible for telling The Greek that his contact in the Port of Baltimore, Frank Sobotka, has agreed to give evidence against him. This information leads to Sobotka’s death. FBI Special Agent Fitzhugh realizes Koutris is a leak, but is unable to do anything because Koutris is well regarded because of the drug arrest. It is also implied (and has subsequently been confirmed by creator David Simon) that Koutris is protecting The Greek by supplying him with confidential FBI information in exchange for information on potential acts of terrorism, or with tip-offs to other illegal activities (such as the Columbian drug importation); Koutris is not considered an evil or corrupt figure in the show, but someone whose judgment is questionable at best and (like everyone else on the show) gets completely out-maneuvered at every turn by The Greek.

 

[Raider Nation]

Splain something to me please. I've watched the episode several times and I still can't piece it together.McNulty's brother knew he screwed up the Frank Sobotka thing when he called to speak with Busmalis from Oz. The secretary told him that Kutras no longer works in San Diego, but rather he is now with CTU in Washington. Brother McNulty then slumped in his chair, realizing what's up. He later apologizes to Daniels about the whole thing.Can someone walk me through what happened here, and how exactly he f'd up?

McNulty's brother?

Yes. Mr. FBI.Edit. Should I put "brother" in quotes?

IIRC, it was because he realized that the leak came from within his own house, via Kutris. IIRC, there's a scene where Kutris sees something on the FBI intranet about the investigation into the Greek, Kutris phones the Greek, and the whole operation goes into shutdown mode.

I know all of that, and thank you.I just don't know WHAT caused Fitz to realize that Busmalis was the leak.

 

[Raider Nation]

BTW, the final five minutes of "Bad Dreams" where Frank Sobotka drives to his death is phenomenal television.

The Greek music over the montage is perfect.

YouTube used to have it. Looks like HBO took it down.

 

[Raider Nation]

This is from the recap on HBO's site:

Freamon provides the second reminder to Fitz that the leaks in the investigation seemed to develop only after the FBI became involved. Troubled, Fitz calls the San Diego Field Office and is speechless when he learns that Agent Koutris is no longer there, and in fact was transferred to the D.C. countererrorism unit more than a year ago.

I guess I'm just shuked that he made a 100%, lock-it-up assumption that Koutris is the leak merely because he transferred.Did Koutris outright lie to Fitz in an earlier episode, claiming he was still in San Diego? That would make sense.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

This is from the recap on HBO's site:

Freamon provides the second reminder to Fitz that the leaks in the investigation seemed to develop only after the FBI became involved. Troubled, Fitz calls the San Diego Field Office and is speechless when he learns that Agent Koutris is no longer there, and in fact was transferred to the D.C. countererrorism unit more than a year ago.

I guess I'm just shuked that he made a 100%, lock-it-up assumption that Koutris is the leak merely because he transferred.Did Koutris outright lie to Fitz in an earlier episode, claiming he was still in San Diego? That would make sense.

I think he just put two and two together.

 

[The Ref]

Having renovated a short sale, my favorite part of the day was always going to Home Depot and listen to Rawls try and sell me soil or plumbing.

 

[Please See Mine]

This is from the recap on HBO's site:

Freamon provides the second reminder to Fitz that the leaks in the investigation seemed to develop only after the FBI became involved. Troubled, Fitz calls the San Diego Field Office and is speechless when he learns that Agent Koutris is no longer there, and in fact was transferred to the D.C. countererrorism unit more than a year ago.

I guess I'm just shuked that he made a 100%, lock-it-up assumption that Koutris is the leak merely because he transferred.Did Koutris outright lie to Fitz in an earlier episode, claiming he was still in San Diego? That would make sense.

Didn't something on one of the original intranet notes/post indicate that he still was in San Diego?

 

[Please See Mine]

This is from the recap on HBO's site:

Freamon provides the second reminder to Fitz that the leaks in the investigation seemed to develop only after the FBI became involved. Troubled, Fitz calls the San Diego Field Office and is speechless when he learns that Agent Koutris is no longer there, and in fact was transferred to the D.C. countererrorism unit more than a year ago.

I guess I'm just shuked that he made a 100%, lock-it-up assumption that Koutris is the leak merely because he transferred.Did Koutris outright lie to Fitz in an earlier episode, claiming he was still in San Diego? That would make sense.

Didn't something on one of the original intranet notes/post indicate that he still was in San Diego?

I thought that his first appearance was when Fitzhugh called him because he saw his name on some notes from something that happened in San Diego, so he always assumed that he was there.I will re-watch Koutris's first appearance when I get a chance, but also perhaps Fitz realized that Koutris would not have seen his other alerts if he really were just in the San Diego field office, but he definitely would have if he were in counterterrorism in DC.

 

[Raider Nation]

my favorite part of the day was always going to Home Depot and listen to Rawls try and sell me soil or plumbing.

The more I watch the series over and over (and over), the more Rawls becomes my favorite character. The guy is hilarious. Pretending to be interested in Jay's skin magazine ... ripping the unit commanders a new one in front of everyone during the briefings, seething at the very thought of McNUTTY, backstabbing Burrell, and just his general cantankerousness.But my favorite Rawls scene was the very opening of "The Hunt," the episode right after Kima got shot. He arrives at the crime scene, and he and Jay try to piece things together. I'm pissed that I cannot find this scene on YouTube, but I did find the transcript:

RAWLS: What do you need?

LANDSMAN: Room to work. I keep ordering people off the scene, and between narcotics, D.E.A. and the two districts, we keep collecting more and more bodies around here.

RAWLS: Nobody move! I said, nobody f###ing move! If you have not been assigned a specific task by a homicide detective, you need to step away from this crime scene.

[...pause...]

Is there anybody who doesn't understand a direct order? If you have not specifically been instructed otherwise, remove your useless interfering asses from the area. Now!

 

[Raider Nation]

"The Wire" premiered 10 years ago today.

RIP Snot Boogie.

 

[The Ref]

"The Wire" premiered 10 years ago today.

RIP Snot Boogie.

No kidding - seems just like yesterday.

 

[The Ref]

my favorite part of the day was always going to Home Depot and listen to Rawls try and sell me soil or plumbing.

The more I watch the series over and over (and over), the more Rawls becomes my favorite character. The guy is hilarious. Pretending to be interested in Jay's skin magazine ... ripping the unit commanders a new one in front of everyone during the briefings, seething at the very thought of McNUTTY, backstabbing Burrell, and just his general cantankerousness.But my favorite Rawls scene was the very opening of "The Hunt," the episode right after Kima got shot. He arrives at the crime scene, and he and Jay try to piece things together. I'm pissed that I cannot find this scene on YouTube, but I did find the transcript:

RAWLS: What do you need?

LANDSMAN: Room to work. I keep ordering people off the scene, and between narcotics, D.E.A. and the two districts, we keep collecting more and more bodies around here.

RAWLS: Nobody move! I said, nobody f###ing move! If you have not been assigned a specific task by a homicide detective, you need to step away from this crime scene.

[...pause...]

Is there anybody who doesn't understand a direct order? If you have not specifically been instructed otherwise, remove your useless interfering asses from the area. Now!

Rawls is at the top of my under rated list. Guy was funny is almost every scene he was in. Just a real #####. And he was the perfect guy to tell McNaulty that it wasnt his fault that Kima got shot. Probably one of the best scenes in the whole series.

 

[Raider Nation]

And he was the perfect guy to tell McNaulty that it wasnt his fault that Kima got shot. Probably one of the best scenes in the whole series.

Now that scene is on YouTube.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d0leuz-WrA

 

[The Ref]

Interesting.... McNaulty, Rawls, Pearlman, Daniels, Bunk, Kima, Carver and Herk were in all 60 episodes. Freeman was in 59 of 60. I wonder what one he missed? Was it se1 ep1?

Im suprised that Bodie was "only" in 42.

 

[Raider Nation]

Interesting.... McNaulty, Rawls, Pearlman, Daniels, Bunk, Kima, Carver and Herk were in all 60 episodes. Freeman was in 59 of 60. I wonder what one he missed? Was it se1 ep1?

I believe so.

 

[Apple Jack]

http://www.maxim.com/tv/maxim-interrogates-the-makers-and-stars-of-the-wire

Idris: We smoked a lot of good weed, did a lot of strip clubs. A lot of that.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

I don't think anyone posted this yet:

The Wire: The Musical

 

[PinkydaPimp]

I don't think anyone posted this yet:

The Wire: The Musical

this is brilliant. Can we all pool our money to get this made?

 

[fsufan]

I'm midway through season 2 of Breaking Bad. It's good, for sure. But comparing it to The Wire? C'mon...

it gets better.both are great shows and probably two of the best series ever put on television.I happen to prefer The Wire for several reasons, but can see why others would vote the other way.

I'm further a long in Season 2 now and I just feel like the show is kind of predictable or cheesy or unrealistic or something. I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's a combination of things. I like it, but I am not getting any greatness out of it. I mean, Dexter also has some predictability/unrealistic flaws, but when I am done with an episode of Dexter I am ready to watch the next one right away. With Breaking Bad, I do not have the urge. The Wire, on the other hand, when I re-watched the DVDs with people I could crush a season in 1-2 days.IMO The Wire is in its own league right now. Game of Thrones, while a totally different genre, is the only thing close to as compelling with characters/unpredictability and maybe Boardwalk Empire.

please don't compare the wire to games of thrones. games of thrones is ####

 

[fsufan]

Breaking Bad >>>>> The WireI'm 96% sure of it.

I'm 97% sure you're wrong.

Breaking Bad is much better.

After watching the finale of season 4 of Breaking Bad, I'm 100% sure you are wrong.

love both shows. if i had to pick one i would go with breaking bad by a hair. last season of breaking bad was the best season of any show i have ever watched

 

[Native]

And he was the perfect guy to tell McNaulty that it wasnt his fault that Kima got shot. Probably one of the best scenes in the whole series.

Now that scene is on YouTube.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d0leuz-WrA

Wow. Great scene.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Dunno if anyone has checked out "Luther" yet, but it's really awesome. Very weird, too.