The year of the TE (1 Viewer)

[zamboni]

As a lower-end option, how about McMichael?

He's no spring chicken anymore and has had problems staying healthy, but he's always been a good pass catcher. And with the Rams likely to be behind a lot of games with an unproven WR corps, Randy could see a good amount of looks.

 

[unckeyherb]

I'd deal Winslow personally.

Why? I truthfully don't have much info on him except that I drafted him very late. Seems like he is one of the very few targets in Tampa? He had a pretty good line against Dallas: 5 receptions for 30ish yards and a TD. Not great, but not bad. Is there something I don't know?

 

[dotman]

I'd deal Winslow personally.

Why? I truthfully don't have much info on him except that I drafted him very late. Seems like he is one of the very few targets in Tampa? He had a pretty good line against Dallas: 5 receptions for 30ish yards and a TD. Not great, but not bad. Is there something I don't know?

Maybe he meant deal for Winslow. The guy has been dynamic when he's healthy, he really isn't injury prone (just had 2 freak incidents, the motorcycle accident and the staph infection), and he seems to be past those things now. Winslow is a guy I targetted and I'd acquire him if you can.

 

[Knobs]

Shockey may get hurt, but the reason I'd look to deal him is because the Saints will likely spread the ball about a great deal. He'll have some weeks with absolutely nothing.

 

[stevegamer]

Real:

Keller

Heap

Celek

Carlson

ZMiller (Oak)

Winslow

Real but a time bomb:

Shockey

Not real:

Watson

Royal

Too soon to tell:

Davis

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Have Heap as a backup to Carlson in a league. Want to deal Heap once Carlson gets past his bye week.

They have the same bye week.

 

[ADP]

Everyone seems to think that B. Watson is not for real, those catches he made were pretty nice and he showed some good hands/ body control imo making them. If anything, I think the fact that Moss and Welker are there helps him. Maybe he just needed to earn Brady's trust. Monday night could go along way in doing that.

Not saying he is for real, but I am also not so quick to slam door shut on him. Next game will be very telling if he gets targeted again.

 

[meatwad1]

I have to dissent against the grain here. Let us not forget how inconsistant TEs are in general. They are primarily used to exploit situational weaknesses and that is why very few of them show much consistancy. Witten, Gates, Clark, and Gonzo, health permitting are going to be top dogs, that is a promise. Let's see how great Shocky is on the weeks when the tds go to Reggie Bush or Pierre Thomas or Colston. Same goes for Watson, he is catching Moss's and Welker's TDs, they will have at least 20 of them between the 2, and Watson has now stolen 2.

I will grant that Carlson does have a shot to become an elite te this year.

 

[two_dollars]

What about Daniels?

 

[SSOG]

Everyone seems to think that B. Watson is not for real, those catches he made were pretty nice and he showed some good hands/ body control imo making them. If anything, I think the fact that Moss and Welker are there helps him. Maybe he just needed to earn Brady's trust. Monday night could go along way in doing that.Not saying he is for real, but I am also not so quick to slam door shut on him. Next game will be very telling if he gets targeted again.

Tom Brady's not throwing 50+ passes very often going forward. Ben Watson isn't finishing with all of New England's receiving TDs very often going forward. Watson's in his 6th year- at this point, what you see is what you get, and we've seen this game from Watson before (a TD in 3 straight weeks to open 2007, only 3 more TDs the rest of the way despite Tom Brady throwing for 50). Heck, we've seen this game from other New England TEs, too (Daniel Graham had 1, 2, 1, and 1 TD in the first four weeks of '04, then 2 TDs the rest of the season). New England TEs are a huge tease. Even if TE was a higher-priority position in New England, Watson's still going to be competing with Baker for looks going forward.

 

[Knobs]

IIRC Watson got hurt in 2007 after that promising start.

 

[SSOG]

IIRC Watson got hurt in 2007 after that promising start.

He was the #5 TE before he got hurt, but again, I'm not convinced it wasn't a fluke (a la Graham in '04). Especially because New England brought in Baker this year.

 

[Knobs]

It's entirely possible it was all a fluke, but we can't know for sure. Your previous post was a tad misleading, because Watson may have continued his torrid pace had he remained healthy.

Though I tend to believe his chances for remaining an elite te this year are limited.

 

[WisWolvrns]

pretty much standard fare for week 1 TE scoring. if I recall, it always seems that TEs throughout the league have some big week 1's. probably due to training camp/pre season planning and such, with defenses still getting their legs under them to play 60-70 snaps.

 

[Jed]

Anyone have any opinions about Celek vs Keller?

 

[Gbagzz]

Zach Miller

Receptions have gone up every year.

He just needs a slight uptick in yardage and a few TDs and

POW

TOP 5

 

[TheFanatic]

The year of the TE? I think you meant decade of the TE. This has been going on for quite some time.

It's been the decade of 4-5 TE's each year having significant impact. Last year in non PPR, 4 TE's scored over 100. 1 Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE 1582 Witten, Jason DAL TE 1153 Clark, Dallas IND TE 1144 Gates, Antonio SDC TE 111That's only an average of about 7 points a game for the latter three. Drop down to the 10th TE last year, Fasano and you have 80 points 5 points a game. The year before we had 6 guys over 100 with significantly higher scoring:1 WITTEN, Jason 1492 GATES, Antonio 1453 GONZALEZ, Tony 1394 WINSLOW, Kellen 1355 CLARK, Dallas 1216 COOLEY, Chris 121In 2006 it was 5 with much lower scoring:1 GATES, Antonio 1392 CRUMPLER, Alge 1183 GONZALEZ, Tony 1154 HEAP, Todd 1055 COOLEY, Chris 104In 2005 it was 6 with a little higher scoring but not as high as 2007:1 GATES, Antonio 1642 SHOCKEY, Jeremy 1253 HEAP, Todd 1194 CRUMPLER, Alge 1135 COOLEY, Chris 1126 WITTEN, Jason 105In 2004 it was 4 with two dominating performances, a really good performance and then a steep drop off:1 GATES, Antonio 1692 GONZALEZ, Tony 1613 WITTEN, Jason 1284 CRUMPLER, Alge 106In 2003 it was just two - Gonzo and Sharpe5 COOLEY, Chris 1126 WITTEN, Jason 105I don't have stats before 03. And while I realize that 100 points is totally arbitrary, it's not a high number. Here is where a WR ranked that each year that scored around 100:2008 - 35th, Edwards with 1002007 - 36th, Calvin Johnson with 1032006 - 34th, Kennison with 1012005 - 34th, Ernest Wilford at 102 2004 - 39th, David Givens with 1002003 - 28th, Terry Glenn with 103So guys scoring just over 100 are like having an extra ####ty WR on your team. I realize it's early but if QB's continue to target their TE's like they did in week 1 we could have some ridiculous scoring that could quite easily eclipse 2007 numbers. Or we could have a bunch or Dante Rosarios [cough] Ben Watson [/cough]

 

[stevegamer]

When I'm looking at whether one of these guys is "real" - I'm wondering, can they be a low-end TE1 or better. They won't all be, but for those of us who aren't holding a stud TE, we need to separate the wheat from the chaff to figure out who's got a shot. Obviously, there are some studs out there, and not all of these guys are going to put up numbers every week.

Rosario last year is a great reference, great week 1, got banged up, did bupkus the rest of the way.

Once you gets past the top tier of guys, the rest of the guys mentioned are the leading candidates to be TE1's.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

TE's TD scoring accross the NFL was way down last year. Whatever week 1 shows I won't comment on until we have 4-5 week trends develop. I think what we're seeing is TE's being used more as possession receivers between the 20's and then with the RBBC trends, teams pound it into the endzone successfully with the big RB instead of play-action passing to the TE for the score. Just my observations. Please look at your scoring system before getting all gung-ho about grabbign a bunch of TEs. If its PPR or yardage heavy scoring...you may be ok. TD heavy scoring...it may still be a big dropoff from the top 3-5 TE's whom get 5-10 TD's in a season to the rest of the league TE's whom may barely snag 1-2 touchdowns all year.

 

[SSOG]

Anyone have any opinions about Celek vs Keller?

Yeah. Keller's a much, much, much, much better receiver.

 

[Neo]

Anyone have any opinions about Celek vs Keller?

Yeah. Keller's a much, much, much, much better receiver.

SSOG's shortest post I've ever read....and of course on point.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Carlson should be top 5 this year.

I dunno the way I see it Gonzo, Clark, Gates, and Witten are so damn good that only leaves one slot to be top 5. Not saying he cant do it but Im not ready to annoint him yet.

Gates won't make it in top 5 this year.

Ummmm, why? And please don't say "gut feeling".

Two reasons.1) I think Bolts will run much more this year.2) I think VJax is the number 1 target now. Gates no longer the first look.These two things combined will drop him down out of top 5. Probably #7 or 8 this year IMO.Hope this was enough.

1) opposite. an aging LT and scatback backup, along with a developing Rivers pointsto more passing