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There were only 33 TD passes Week 1 going into Monday Night (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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61 TD passes Wk 1-2019
52 TD passes Wk 1-2020
61 TD passes Wk 1 -2021
51 TD passes Wk 1-2022

Just 33 in Week 1 in 2024, what conclusions if any can we draw?
Why has this number dipped so much and why in a pass happy league is the downward trajectory in TD passes from what we've seen prior?
That has a massive impact on WRs and TEs and RBs as well and might be part of why there is such a dry market on most waiver wires

Why aren't there more 40-50 TD pass seasons for QBs? 5,000+ yds passing shouldn't be such a hurdle as it was when Marino did it in '84
I'd like to know why folks think this is happening
I believe these training camps where players don't even take the field for a single drive and then just start the season is impacting early play in the NFL

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I believe these training camps where players don't even take the field for a single drive and then just start the season is impacting early play in the NFL
This is for sure a big factor into the disjointed and lackluster play. Passing game work will be the most affected because it does take timing to be effective. With the timing off it's going to take a big hit on producing. I believe the lack of playing i pre-season is the biggest reason for this happening.
 
61 TD passes Wk 1-2019
52 TD passes Wk 1-2020
61 TD passes Wk 1 -2021
51 TD passes Wk 1-2022

Just 33 in Week 1 in 2024, what conclusions if any can we draw?
Why has this number dipped so much and why in a pass happy league is the downward trajectory in TD passes from what we've seen prior?
That has a massive impact on WRs and TEs and RBs as well and might be part of why there is such a dry market on most waiver wires

Why aren't there more 40-50 TD pass seasons for QBs? 5,000+ yds passing shouldn't be such a hurdle as it was when Marino did it in '84
I'd like to know why folks think this is happening
I believe these training camps where players don't even take the field for a single drive and then just start the season is impacting early play in the NFL

:popcorn:

How many TDS in Wk 1 - 2023?
 
I agree it's the lack of pre-season snaps/looks. The NFL as a whole has felt a little slow to get going the past few years. We'll be fine come week 4 or 5. But yeah, not the most exciting week 1.
 
61 TD passes Wk 1-2019
52 TD passes Wk 1-2020
61 TD passes Wk 1 -2021
51 TD passes Wk 1-2022

Just 33 in Week 1 in 2024, what conclusions if any can we draw?
Why has this number dipped so much and why in a pass happy league is the downward trajectory in TD passes from what we've seen prior?
That has a massive impact on WRs and TEs and RBs as well and might be part of why there is such a dry market on most waiver wires

Why aren't there more 40-50 TD pass seasons for QBs? 5,000+ yds passing shouldn't be such a hurdle as it was when Marino did it in '84
I'd like to know why folks think this is happening
I believe these training camps where players don't even take the field for a single drive and then just start the season is impacting early play in the NFL

:popcorn:

How many TDS in Wk 1 - 2023?
That's what I'm wondering too. If it was also lower, it might contribute to the narrative that the shorter preseason and lack of snaps for starters results in less scoring in week 1.
 
i wouldn't put it all on lack of preseason reps. we have a higher amount of qbs running in for tds. just running qbs in general are increasing. also a changing of the guard as some guys fade away and new guys get drafted and are different. in 2019 we still had eli, brees, rivers, ryan, bigben, etc. as more pocket passer types. arod and purdy will likely boost the pass tds by 2-5 i think tonight
 
Perhaps part of the issue is this trend that most teams believe a QB must be mobile, so we are getting a ton of great running QBs, but not as many who can stay in the pocket and read defenses and throw accurately. And oddly, fantasy football could be playing a bit of a role in this trend as it values a running QB more than it should. There is so much narrative which pumps up these running QBs because they put out massive fantasy points.
 
I don't think this is new. TDs, especially passing have been down for a few seasons now and it seems like this is the new normal.

Previous analysis into this revealed it was due to a combination of Cover 2 defenses, poor O line play, and the retiring of many great QBs (Brady/Brees/Manning, etc) .
 
I think some of it stems from teams with new environments. There were 3 rookies starting yesterday, 5 others were playing for a new team, and 6 were returning from being injured at the end of last year and were probably rusty. When you factor in teams with new head coaches and offensive coordinators, it paints a pretty clear picture that a lot of situations were in transition.
 
They pay these QBs so much these days, that they cannot afford an injury in preseason. Very few looked sharp, even the ones that did play preseason.
Agreed. While teams are understandably limiting the preseason to avoid injury, seems like QBs come into the season a little raw for NFL game speed.
 
I don't think this is new. TDs, especially passing have been down for a few seasons now and it seems like this is the new normal.

Previous analysis into this revealed it was due to a combination of Cover 2 defenses, poor O line play, and the retiring of many great QBs (Brady/Brees/Manning, etc) .
2 good podcasts discussing these trends which have been going on for a few years and their evolution



Another big element is that the value of finding a good qb on a rookie contract is so high, that teams generally prefer to try to do that as opposed to having a decent veteran qb. 20 years ago, half the teams would probably just start a dalton or Flacco or tannehill type, but now those teams are trying to extract the value of the rookie contract qb.

Mitch Schwartz did wonder aloud why teams are so willing to pay top dollar for anyone who is like a top half of the league qb after the rookie contract rather than just the top 5 or so, since this incentive is so strong. It seems like teams are willing to take the risk when they don’t have much, but once they get to a certain threshold, they become much more risk averse.
 

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