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There's Been A Ryan Torain Sighting (1 Viewer)

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Many of us were paying attention to Torain's career when he ascended to the Denver starting job in 2008, had a solid first half in that one game, and then had it come to an abrupt halt with a season ending injury. Last year McDelusional cut him in preseason. Since then I've Googled him from time to time but it was always nada, as if he dropped off the planet. I thought by now he'd given up on football.

But not so fast my friends. He's looking for another shot, and in case you're wondering, he turns 24 in August. Here's the part of the linked article pertaining to Torain, dated 3/26/10 (yesterday):

http://arizonastate.scout.com/2/957332.html

Still, the other players went about their business and were even joined by some familiar faces, most notably, former ASU and Denver Broncos running back, Ryan Torain.

“This is the big day for me,” Torain pointed out, “just to show all 32 teams at once that I’m ready to play.

“I got released from Denver due to injuries so I just came out here and took the opportunity to have all 32 teams see me healthy.”

Torain says he has been training at Triple Threat Performance in Tempe, trying to get healthy and back in shape in hopes of getting that phone call from an NFL team.

Though the surroundings at Sun Devil Stadium were familiar to Torain, being a few years removed from college and competing with college seniors was different, but he says no matter whom it is, competition is a part of the business.

“Young guys [are] trying to do the same thing I’m doing,” Torain acknowledged, “There’s competition, there’s always gonna be competition, so I’m never scared of that.”

Whether it’s Torain, trying to get back into the NFL, or the young guys like Davis and Goethel just trying to get their foot in the door, everyone on the field today had the same ultimate goal, getting on an NFL roster.
 
If he proves healthy I would say he's as good or better than a lot of trash currently on NFL rosters.

 
Another article with more info on his pro day. I'm sort of surprised Rotoworld, KFFL, FBG News, etc. have been totally quiet about any of this. Maybe (probably?) nothing here, but it should at least be worth a mention.

http://www.foxsportsarizona.com/pages/land...amp;feedID=3702



Torain's return highlights ASU pro day

Ex-ASU RB trying to prove he’s healthy

Posted: March 26

By Alex Espinoza

FOXSportsArizona.com

TEMPE – Despite all the injuries and all the setbacks, Ryan Torain still sports a hearty smile.

It was on full display Friday at Sun Devil Stadium, as past members of the Arizona State football team ran drills in front of dozens of NFL scouts for ASU’s annual pro day.

Among the players working out included Torain, who played running back for the Sun Devils from 2006-07. Torain latched on with the Denver Broncos after they selected him with a fifth-round pick in the 2008 draft, but three injuries -- including two to his knees -- have derailed his professional career.

He was in good spirits on Friday, though, and said he is trying to prove that he’s “100 percent.”

“This was the big day for me,” Torain said after his workout. “Just to show all 32 teams at once that I’m ready to play.”

Since 2007, Torain has been riddled with injuries.

Torain’s ASU career ended six games into his senior season because of a fractured left foot, before a broken elbow interrupted his initial preseason with the Broncos in 2008. Torain was able to return later in the season, starting in week 10, but tore his left anterior cruciate ligament after racking up 68 yards and a touchdown on 12 carries.

His latest setback, a posterior cruciate ligament injury to his right knee, led to his release from the Broncos during training camp in August 2009.

Torain said he hasn’t worked out for any teams individually yet, but that he’s staying in shape by working with a local fitness group in Tempe. He said he was pleased with his performance on Friday.

“Mentally, for me, it’s just hard work paying off,” Torain said. “I ain’t there yet, I just got to keep working … I just got to be patient. A couple (scouts) were saying ‘good job’ here and there, but ‘til that paper has my name on it, we’ll be OK.”

Unofficially, Torain’s hand-recorded 40-yard dash time was in the 4.6-second range. During his 2008 NFL combine workout, Torain’s 40 time was recorded at 4.61 seconds.

Torain was one of three former ASU players who graduated before 2009 that participated in Friday’s pro day. Linebacker Morris Wooten, who went unselected in last year’s draft, and defensive back Keno Walter-White also took part in the action.

Former quarterback Rudy Carpenter, now one of four signal-callers with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, was also in attendance. Carpenter helped out on a few drills, throwing passes to players.

Wide receiver Chris McGaha, who is battling a hamstring injury, was in attendance but did not participate.
 
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thanks for the heads up CP, just put it in our news feed

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Having seen Torain up close several times here in Denver there's really not a lot to get excited about pre or post injury.

He ran too upright, was not decisive, and did not have a good initial burst. He's a north and south guy that can be hard to bring down with a head of steam, but loses speed when he tries to cut.

He's a longshot to make it onto a roster this year but you never know. RB is a tough position - a young man's position - but someone might be willing to take a chance on him (Shanny).

 
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Thanks Cecil. Interesting point re Shanny. With just Portis and LJ with experience at RB on the Skins' roster, that's a possibility. They have inexperienced PJ HIll and Alridge too, but have room to add since they've let go of Betts, Ganther, Cartwright, and Mason.

 
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Now up on FBG News, including this "our view" (Cecil's write up I assume?):

Our view: Torain was a surprise fifth-round pick by Mike Shanahan when he was with the Broncos in 2008. Most believed that Torain had a priority free agent grade, but Shanahan loves to take a shot on late-round running backs. He was bounced from the league quickly because of injuries but now is looking to make a comeback in the NFL. Perhaps Shanahan would bring him into training camp with the Redskins. Torain is an upright runner that can generate power when he gets a head of steam, but loses his effectiveness when he has to change direction.
 
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If he proves healthy I would say he's as good or better than a lot of trash currently on NFL rosters.
Mike Bell was a Shanny UDFA from Arizona, 3 years older and probably not as good an RB as Torain, but just signed for $1.7 mil with Philly. The thing with Torain is the injury history, time after time after time. Teams tend to stay away once they feel there's no reliability there, and that mindset is what Torain now is going to have to overcome to convince someone to sign him.
 
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Now up on FBG News, including this "our view" (Cecil's write up I assume?):

Our view: Torain was a surprise fifth-round pick by Mike Shanahan when he was with the Broncos in 2008. Most believed that Torain had a priority free agent grade, but Shanahan loves to take a shot on late-round running backs. He was bounced from the league quickly because of injuries but now is looking to make a comeback in the NFL. Perhaps Shanahan would bring him into training camp with the Redskins. Torain is an upright runner that can generate power when he gets a head of steam, but loses his effectiveness when he has to change direction.
:goodposting:The comments come from either me or Bloom in the offseason. During the regular season on Sundays Jene Bramel will lend his opinions to the news wire as well.
 
Rotoworld has their blurb up now too (obviously readers of the FBG message board :goodposting: )

Ryan Torain-RB- Broncos Mar. 27 - 2:48 pm et Former Broncos RB Ryan Torain worked out for NFL scouts and team execs at Arizona State's annual pro day on Friday.Torain is trying to prove to teams that he's 100 percent recovered from ACL and PCL injuries of the past two seasons. Though Torain's young career has also been derailed by Lisfranc, elbow, and ankle injuries, one can never rule out a reunion with Mike Shanahan. He's a longshot for fantasy value in 2010 -- or any subsequent year.
 
If he proves healthy I would say he's as good or better than a lot of trash currently on NFL rosters.
Mike Bell was a Shanny UDFA from Arizona, 3 years older and probably not as good an RB as Torain, but just signed for $1.7 mil with Philly. The thing with Torain is the injury history, time after time after time. Teams tend to stay away once they feel there's no reliability there, and that mindset is what Torain now is going to have to overcome to convince someone to sign him.
Just going off what I saw in training camp with the Broncos, Bell ran with more authority and a better burst than Torain. The Torain Train had more potential than Bell, but not as much of an effort guy.
 
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the enigma is back. A 5th round draft pick who was treated like the 2nd coming by overzealous FF fans.
That reminded me of one of my rookie drafts so i thought i would copy and paste it:1.011.Buffalo BillsMcFadden, Darren OAK RB

1.022.Indianapolis ColtsMendenhall, Rashard PIT RB

1.033.Oakland RaidersStewart, Jonathan CAR RB

1.044.Minnesota VikingsSmith, Kevin DET RB

1.055.Buffalo BillsForte, Matt CHI RB

1.066.Jacksonville JaguarsRyan, Matt ATL QB

1.077.Arizona CardinalsJones, Felix DAL RB

1.088.Oakland RaidersRice, Ray BAL RB

1.099.New York GiantsHightower, Tim ARI RBYou guys are sleeping!!

1.1010.Washington RedskinsTorain, Ryan DEN RB

1.1111.Buffalo BillsJohnson, Chris TEN RB

1.1212.San Francisco 49ersThomas, Devin WAS WR

 
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Torian over Chris Johnosn.. :thumbup: :lmao: :X

 
Torian over Chris Johnosn.. :fishing: :whoosh: :lmao:
It wasnt as bad then, but an extreme example of taking situation over talent. The guy dropped out of the league the next season. Guess i dont blame him, decsions like that will haunt you forever.
 
Torian over Chris Johnosn.. :lmao: :) :X
It wasnt as bad then, but an extreme example of taking situation over talent. The guy dropped out of the league the next season. Guess i dont blame him, decsions like that will haunt you forever.
IMO, actually it is always bad to take a 5th round player over a 1st rounder player. While the NFL is not perfect, they do know more than we do.
 
Torian over Chris Johnosn.. :popcorn: :banned: :X
It wasnt as bad then, but an extreme example of taking situation over talent. The guy dropped out of the league the next season. Guess i dont blame him, decsions like that will haunt you forever.
IMO, actually it is always bad to take a 5th round player over a 1st rounder player. While the NFL is not perfect, they do know more than we do.
I agree, no way would i have ever done that, but there are plenty of people on this board who have. Search for the Tim Hightower hype thread from a couple years ago. People were raniking him in their top 5-8 rookies going into the 2008 season.
 
Torian over Chris Johnosn.. :wall: :lmao: :X
It wasnt as bad then, but an extreme example of taking situation over talent. The guy dropped out of the league the next season. Guess i dont blame him, decsions like that will haunt you forever.
IMO, actually it is always bad to take a 5th round player over a 1st rounder player. While the NFL is not perfect, they do know more than we do.
:goodposting: even at that point no normal human would have taken torian over SJ. if someone did they are an idiot, 5th round over 1st round

 
I watch more NCAA ( this was a low year and managed 45-50 start to finish regular season games and most of the bowl games) than only a relative handful of guys on this board, and I defer to the pros over my eyes more often than not.

I am fine with the people who watch a ton of college football and attempt to scout making those moves. That said, I know in 2009 plenty of people were all over Rashard Jennings and Jarret Dillard in the same way as Hightower in 2008 and Colston when ever he came out, drafting them as late 1sts to mid 2nds based on the ideas of a handful of guys on this board. If you virtually never watch college football (always more people than I think), trust the NFL more than you trust me or which ever FBG you like. Grab our late round darlings in the 3rd/4th round versus moving up and reaching based on speculation.

 
I watch more NCAA ( this was a low year and managed 45-50 start to finish regular season games and most of the bowl games) than only a relative handful of guys on this board, and I defer to the pros over my eyes more often than not. I am fine with the people who watch a ton of college football and attempt to scout making those moves. That said, I know in 2009 plenty of people were all over Rashard Jennings and Jarret Dillard in the same way as Hightower in 2008 and Colston when ever he came out, drafting them as late 1sts to mid 2nds based on the ideas of a handful of guys on this board. If you virtually never watch college football (always more people than I think), trust the NFL more than you trust me or which ever FBG you like. Grab our late round darlings in the 3rd/4th round versus moving up and reaching based on speculation.
A person who doesnt watch any football would likely be as successful in rookie drafts, or even more than a person who watches a ton of college football if they just drafted players in the order they were drafted in the NFL. Assuming this person understood that RB's are worth more than WR's and WR's are worth more than QB's and so on.
 
I watch more NCAA ( this was a low year and managed 45-50 start to finish regular season games and most of the bowl games) than only a relative handful of guys on this board, and I defer to the pros over my eyes more often than not. I am fine with the people who watch a ton of college football and attempt to scout making those moves. That said, I know in 2009 plenty of people were all over Rashard Jennings and Jarret Dillard in the same way as Hightower in 2008 and Colston when ever he came out, drafting them as late 1sts to mid 2nds based on the ideas of a handful of guys on this board. If you virtually never watch college football (always more people than I think), trust the NFL more than you trust me or which ever FBG you like. Grab our late round darlings in the 3rd/4th round versus moving up and reaching based on speculation.
A person who doesnt watch any football would likely be as successful in rookie drafts, or even more than a person who watches a ton of college football if they just drafted players in the order they were drafted in the NFL. Assuming this person understood that RB's are worth more than WR's and WR's are worth more than QB's and so on.
Yep. Nothing I disagree with there.Edit: Guys like Jarrett in Carolina and Davis in San Diego would already be out o the league if they were not high draft choices, no matter what teams say the round and investement does matter.
 
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I watch more NCAA ( this was a low year and managed 45-50 start to finish regular season games and most of the bowl games) than only a relative handful of guys on this board, and I defer to the pros over my eyes more often than not. I am fine with the people who watch a ton of college football and attempt to scout making those moves. That said, I know in 2009 plenty of people were all over Rashard Jennings and Jarret Dillard in the same way as Hightower in 2008 and Colston when ever he came out, drafting them as late 1sts to mid 2nds based on the ideas of a handful of guys on this board. If you virtually never watch college football (always more people than I think), trust the NFL more than you trust me or which ever FBG you like. Grab our late round darlings in the 3rd/4th round versus moving up and reaching based on speculation.
A person who doesnt watch any football would likely be as successful in rookie drafts, or even more than a person who watches a ton of college football if they just drafted players in the order they were drafted in the NFL. Assuming this person understood that RB's are worth more than WR's and WR's are worth more than QB's and so on.
Yep. Nothing I disagree with there.
I think you and i are in the minority.
 
I watch more NCAA ( this was a low year and managed 45-50 start to finish regular season games and most of the bowl games) than only a relative handful of guys on this board, and I defer to the pros over my eyes more often than not. I am fine with the people who watch a ton of college football and attempt to scout making those moves. That said, I know in 2009 plenty of people were all over Rashard Jennings and Jarret Dillard in the same way as Hightower in 2008 and Colston when ever he came out, drafting them as late 1sts to mid 2nds based on the ideas of a handful of guys on this board. If you virtually never watch college football (always more people than I think), trust the NFL more than you trust me or which ever FBG you like. Grab our late round darlings in the 3rd/4th round versus moving up and reaching based on speculation.
A person who doesnt watch any football would likely be as successful in rookie drafts, or even more than a person who watches a ton of college football if they just drafted players in the order they were drafted in the NFL. Assuming this person understood that RB's are worth more than WR's and WR's are worth more than QB's and so on.
Yep. Nothing I disagree with there.
I think you and i are in the minority.
I think you two are spot on. Last year, I researched and wrote articles on the chances of finding a fantasy starter (and elite starter) by draft position. It showed the overwhelming evidence of NFL Draft place influencing outcome. The only outlier was the 6th round of draft for QBs because of Brady, Bulger, and others.
 

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