These dome playoff games stink! (1 Viewer)

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

So now that the Colts and Saints have won, 7 of the 10 playoff games (excluding the SB) will be played indoors. Even in HD with proper visual settings, these games are not fun to watch on tv.

Colts stadium - The field looked like carpet last night

Saints stadium - The stadium appears way too dark on tv. And the field looked awful yesterday.

Vikings stadium - Same as the Saints.

Cowboys stadium - This one is ok but the field looks too dark

Cardinals stadium - I don't have any problems with this one

WHO ELSE AGREES ?

 

[ScottyFargo]

I hate it when games have shadows cast across half the field though.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Im loving me some Dome football.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

It's awful. We need more snow and/or mud in the playoffs.

 

[Pnishthm]

So now that the Colts and Saints have won, 7 of the 10 playoff games (excluding the SB) will be played indoors. Even in HD with proper visual settings, these games are not fun to watch on tv. Colts stadium - The field looked like carpet last nightSaints stadium - The stadium appears way too dark on tv. And the field looked awful yesterday.Vikings stadium - Same as the Saints.Cowboys stadium - This one is ok but the field looks too darkCardinals stadium - I don't have any problems with this oneWHO ELSE AGREES ?

Because watching a game with a field covered with snow and you can't even see the ball thru the snow coming down is more visually attractive?

 

[ScottyFargo]

So now that the Colts and Saints have won, 7 of the 10 playoff games (excluding the SB) will be played indoors. Even in HD with proper visual settings, these games are not fun to watch on tv. Colts stadium - The field looked like carpet last nightSaints stadium - The stadium appears way too dark on tv. And the field looked awful yesterday.Vikings stadium - Same as the Saints.Cowboys stadium - This one is ok but the field looks too darkCardinals stadium - I don't have any problems with this oneWHO ELSE AGREES ?

Because watching a game with a field covered with snow and you can't even see the ball thru the snow coming down is more visually attractive?

I think football in the snow is awesome.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

I hate it when games have shadows cast across half the field though.

Yes I hate this too. Noticed it a bunch of times when the Colts had the dome open for a few games this year.

Im loving me some Dome football.

I like the Saints and will be rooting for them. But the dome atmosphere stinks. Sorry. At this point I'd rather see the games be played at the Meadowlands than some of these domes.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Yeah, dome games are lame, whether it be on television or watching them in person. Football should be played outside in the elements, but oh well. Every year cannot play out like that.

 

[mex]

Yes because luck should be involved heavily in the outcome. Lets not see the best athletes play in the best conditions possible.

 

[Pipes]

I agree. The field really does look too dark in most domes...especially in NO. I wonder if it's the rubber pellets from the field turf showing. I guess HD is too darn good.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Yes because luck should be involved heavily in the outcome. Lets not see the best athletes play in the best conditions possible.

The best football players handle the elements.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I understand the "elements" argument but 80%-90% of NFL games are played in good conditions and then playoff games (the most important games) create an entirely different game and teams aren't themselves.

There is a reason they don't play a Super Bowl at Soldier Field or the Meadowlands.

 

[Avery]

Yes because luck should be involved heavily in the outcome. Lets not see the best athletes play in the best conditions possible.

So you're saying football should be an inside sport?

 

[Ghost Rider]

There is a reason they don't play a Super Bowl at Soldier Field or the Meadowlands.

Yep, and that reason is the Super Bowl is a circus with all of the entertainment, halftime shows, and celebrities snagging tickets, and the NFL doesn't want that going on in cold weather.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

Yes because luck should be involved heavily in the outcome. Lets not see the best athletes play in the best conditions possible.

It has nothing to do with the elements. I have no problems with Reliant Stadium or U of Phoenix Stadium. They have good lighting and the field actually resembles a grassy color which makes the games much more enjoyable to watch. Obviously the Superdome is kind of old but Lucas Oil field and Cowboy stadium are both brand new.

 

[saintsfan]

Yes because luck should be involved heavily in the outcome. Lets not see the best athletes play in the best conditions possible.

The best football players handle the elements.

Well, maybe those great football players should have used their football greatness to win home field advantage.Sorry, I just hate this crap. Teams that play indoors are often built to play indoors. Nobody says anything when a team built for speed has to go play in the snow, which limits their speed advantage. As soon as a Dome team has homefield, we have to hear from the football "purists" about snow. You know what. Beat the Colts, Saints, and Vikings during the season and make sure they don't have homefield advantage. If you can't do that, just shut up.

 

[Avery]

Yes because luck should be involved heavily in the outcome. Lets not see the best athletes play in the best conditions possible.

The best football players handle the elements.

Well, maybe those great football players should have used their football greatness to win home field advantage.Sorry, I just hate this crap. Teams that play indoors are often built to play indoors. Nobody says anything when a team built for speed has to go play in the snow, which limits their speed advantage. As soon as a Dome team has homefield, we have to hear from the football "purists" about snow. You know what. Beat the Colts, Saints, and Vikings during the season and make sure they don't have homefield advantage. If you can't do that, just shut up.

If you're not a fan of discussion, I'm not sure why you're posting on a discussion board.

 

[Pnishthm]

I understand the "elements" argument but 80%-90% of NFL games are played in good conditions and then playoff games (the most important games) create an entirely different game and teams aren't themselves.There is a reason they don't play a Super Bowl at Soldier Field or the Meadowlands.

This is like changing your fantasy league rules for the playoffs.

 

[Mario Kart]

The people who want domes have to be under 30 years old. The people who agree that football is a sport played in all elements are going to be over 30 years old, at least. There is a whole new mentality about the game and when a player is worth the price of admission, the higher ups will do anything to ensure that that player is available for as many games as possible.

Football is an outside, all elemental game, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. But the new mentality is slowly taking over.

And, put a big * against any record holders who play >50% of their games of their career indoors versus someone who plays fewer games in doors. Give me the player who played outside the majority of their career compared to the domey's.

 

[Mario Kart]

There is a reason they don't play a Super Bowl at Soldier Field or the Meadowlands.

Yep, and that reason is the Super Bowl is a circus with all of the entertainment, halftime shows, and celebrities snagging tickets, and the NFL doesn't want that going on in cold weather.

Yeah, its all about catering to the media and corporations that help supply the NFL with their money stream. It is all about the Hamilton's baby.

 

[Avery]

Preferring domes goes right along with preferring 53-45 games over a 17-10 games.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

This is what I'm talking about.

Exhibit A

Exhibit B

Exhibit C

 

[Mario Kart]

Exhibit B

With all that we know about environmental psychology, that dome is a terrible design. Too dark and uninviting. Natural light may be less in Indianapolis than it is in Arizona, however, that does not mean use darker building material or darker anything in the construction. Terrible.Dallas gets some/most of its light probably from that huge movie screen but it still looks better than Indianapolis.

 

[Da Guru]

So now that the Colts and Saints have won, 7 of the 10 playoff games (excluding the SB) will be played indoors. Even in HD with proper visual settings, these games are not fun to watch on tv. Colts stadium - The field looked like carpet last nightSaints stadium - The stadium appears way too dark on tv. And the field looked awful yesterday.Vikings stadium - Same as the Saints.Cowboys stadium - This one is ok but the field looks too darkCardinals stadium - I don't have any problems with this oneWHO ELSE AGREES ?

When the Lions played at the Saints in the first game of the year I thought something was wrong with my TV, then last night it was the same way. Must be the Super Dome.

 

[saintsfan]

Yes because luck should be involved heavily in the outcome. Lets not see the best athletes play in the best conditions possible.

The best football players handle the elements.

Well, maybe those great football players should have used their football greatness to win home field advantage.Sorry, I just hate this crap. Teams that play indoors are often built to play indoors. Nobody says anything when a team built for speed has to go play in the snow, which limits their speed advantage. As soon as a Dome team has homefield, we have to hear from the football "purists" about snow. You know what. Beat the Colts, Saints, and Vikings during the season and make sure they don't have homefield advantage. If you can't do that, just shut up.

If you're not a fan of discussion, I'm not sure why you're posting on a discussion board.

But this "discussion" always comes down to how a team with a great passing game should have to basically win a game without it's greatest strength by playing in sub zero temperatures. Basically, bring the passing team down to the level of the other team and then call the passing team "soft" when they have to win a game without their greatest weapon. Like I said, teams that play in the snow should make sure they beat the dome teams during the season so they can have that advantage. If they can't, what's to talk about?

 

[mex]

I understand the "elements" argument but 80%-90% of NFL games are played in good conditions and then playoff games (the most important games) create an entirely different game and teams aren't themselves.There is a reason they don't play a Super Bowl at Soldier Field or the Meadowlands.

Do you remember the Patriots games from a few years ago? That horrible field gave them an even bigger advantage because they were used to that #### ### field.

 

[Oh Yes!]

i agree. pretty soon we will start canceling games due to rain or wind...

 

[Mario Kart]

But this "discussion" always comes down to how a team with a great passing game should have to basically win a game without it's greatest strength by playing in sub zero temperatures. Basically, bring the passing team down to the level of the other team and then call the passing team "soft" when they have to win a game without their greatest weapon. Like I said, teams that play in the snow should make sure they beat the dome teams during the season so they can have that advantage. If they can't, what's to talk about?

This is easy. A team built for toughness and strength and pound it out ball has to all of a sudden develop speed while in a dome. Those teams are built for the elements of which football was made to be played in. Now, their greatest strength is getting taken away from them and they are being called slow when they have to win a game without their greatest weapon.Teams that play in a dome should make sure they beat the outside teams during the season so they can have that advantage. If they can't, what's to talk about? Playing in a cozy room for 50% of your games is a bigger advantage than playing outside for those same 50% of games.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

this thread is just about to turn into one of favorite rants, as in why can't there be a major college bowl game played in bad weather/Big10 country? every year we(big10) travel to someone's backyard(california/florida/louisiana) when our teams are built for bad weather. its not coincidence that we generally have bigger-stronger athletes than quick/explosive athletes. Bring Florida's speed up to columbus/ann harbor in early january and let's see if they are as fast in subzero/ snow or ice covered fields.

 

[ThePittbully]

I understand the "elements" argument but 80%-90% of NFL games are played in good conditions and then playoff games (the most important games) create an entirely different game and teams aren't themselves.There is a reason they don't play a Super Bowl at Soldier Field or the Meadowlands.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So now that the Colts and Saints have won, 7 of the 10 playoff games (excluding the SB) will be played indoors. Even in HD with proper visual settings, these games are not fun to watch on tv. Colts stadium - The field looked like carpet last nightSaints stadium - The stadium appears way too dark on tv. And the field looked awful yesterday.Vikings stadium - Same as the Saints.Cowboys stadium - This one is ok but the field looks too darkCardinals stadium - I don't have any problems with this oneWHO ELSE AGREES ?

The field for the Saints game, had it in played outdoors, say in old Tulane Stadium, would have been wet and soggy - and overcast.Even before the field and the Dome were refurbished a few years ago I have never, ever heard anyone say the field was "too dark." That's a new one.The Dome is intimate and breeds a feeling of din and claustrophia for visting teams, kind of like the great old basketball stadiums of Boston and Chicago, and a feeling of unity and tradition for the home team. It will just get better.*****The Colts belong outdoors in Baltimore, yes they do.The Vikes should play outdoors, maybe they get through Dallas and NO, I don't know, but let's face it they have never made it back to the SB since shutting down Metropolitan Stadium and a lot of that has to do with the loss of the advantage of the elements. Saints fans are thrilled they don't have to go somewhere like Green Bay, Chicago or Philly to close out.

 

[Polar Dude]

I can see some complaints about football being played out of the natural environments and in an artificial setting. But are you actually whining about how it looks on your television? This seems an awful lot like choosing your favorite team because you think they have the best-looking uniforms. As long as I can see the action, I am more more concerned about the product on the field than I am how that field appears on my TV.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

[Even before the field and the Dome were refurbished a few years ago I have never, ever heard anyone say the field was "too dark." That's a new one.

I've been to a Sugar Bowl there and I thought the lighting was on the dim side.

 

[ThePittbully]

[Even before the field and the Dome were refurbished a few years ago I have never, ever heard anyone say the field was "too dark." That's a new one.

I've been to a Sugar Bowl there and I thought the lighting was on the dim side.

I'm a season ticket holder and I love the Supedome because the atmosphere is great and the crowd noise can be deafening, but I'll admit it is a little dim in there. I would love to see some skylights or maybe just a improved lighting system

 

[teamroc]

So now that the Colts and Saints have won, 7 of the 10 playoff games (excluding the SB) will be played indoors. Even in HD with proper visual settings, these games are not fun to watch on tv. Colts stadium - The field looked like carpet last nightSaints stadium - The stadium appears way too dark on tv. And the field looked awful yesterday.Vikings stadium - Same as the Saints.Cowboys stadium - This one is ok but the field looks too darkCardinals stadium - I don't have any problems with this oneWHO ELSE AGREES ?

Because watching a game with a field covered with snow and you can't even see the ball thru the snow coming down is more visually attractive?

Actually yes I love snow games.

 

[pablito]

I can see some complaints about football being played out of the natural environments and in an artificial setting. But are you actually whining about how it looks on your television? This seems an awful lot like choosing your favorite team because you think they have the best-looking uniforms. As long as I can see the action, I am more more concerned about the product on the field than I am how that field appears on my TV.

The Colts belong outdoors in Baltimore, yes they do.

Dude. It's been nearly three decades. Get over it.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

After watching the game in the SuperDome and watching the highlights, either the dynamic color mode on my TV is terrible or the FOX production team should have been fired. The player stood out vs the field much more live than on TV.

 

[bryan215]

So now that the Colts and Saints have won, 7 of the 10 playoff games (excluding the SB) will be played indoors. Even in HD with proper visual settings, these games are not fun to watch on tv. Colts stadium - The field looked like carpet last nightSaints stadium - The stadium appears way too dark on tv. And the field looked awful yesterday.Vikings stadium - Same as the Saints.Cowboys stadium - This one is ok but the field looks too darkCardinals stadium - I don't have any problems with this oneWHO ELSE AGREES ?

Cardinals play on real grass that is grown outside and moved inside for the game...also their dome was built to allow a ton of light to come in

 

[Capella]

Other than the Cards-Packers, all of these playoff games have been horrific. Watching in the sterile dome environment hasn't helped; especially Indy last night...how can such a new stadium have such a boring atmosphere to it? Like watching football presented by Ned Flanders.

 

[az_prof]

Yes because luck should be involved heavily in the outcome. Lets not see the best athletes play in the best conditions possible.

It has nothing to do with the elements. I have no problems with Reliant Stadium or U of Phoenix Stadium. They have good lighting and the field actually resembles a grassy color which makes the games much more enjoyable to watch. Obviously the Superdome is kind of old but Lucas Oil field and Cowboy stadium are both brand new.

I am pretty sure that the Cardinal's stadium is not artificial: they have a mega million dollar field that sits outside during the day to get sunlight and then it is on wheels and can be motored into the stadium for games. It cost the taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars though.Are we really arguing about whether or not indoor stadiums are bad because the games appear too dark on our TVs?????I don't care either way. There are advantages to indoor and other advantages to outdoor. The new turf is pretty darn good though so that injury concerns really are not a factor. It is very exciting to be at an indoor game because of the energy of the crowd.

 

[Crash and Walk Away]

Nobody has yet mentioned stadium flexibility. Indianapolis is a northern city with winter to deal with. Having an indoor stadium gives you the flexibility of scheduling events other than football in the doom. It gives you a chance to hold a Super Bowl. Building a viable NFL stadium costs a lot of money. It helps for it to be flexible enough to get maximum use, not just football.

 

[Harrassment Panda]

Nobody has yet mentioned stadium flexibility. Indianapolis is a northern city with winter to deal with. Having an indoor stadium gives you the flexibility of scheduling events other than football in the doom. It gives you a chance to hold a Super Bowl. Building a viable NFL stadium costs a lot of money. It helps for it to be flexible enough to get maximum use, not just football.

What he said.If all these big tough bad-### OMG "real football" teams need to play on a sloppy, wet or frozen field to negate a dome-team's speed, then they should win home-field advantage. End of story.