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Jon_Moore

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Trent Edwards doesn't suck anymore.

Brady made Moss...not the other way.

Marvin Lewis is looking for a job by new year's.

Cleveland will not make the playoffs.

Reshard Mendenhall WILL NOT keep Willie Parker from 300 carries this year.

The Colts will be fine, the Jaguars, not so much.

The Titans are a playoff team, especially with the QB change.

The "Denver RB" fantasy tease is DEAD. Welcome to RBBC hell.

Herm Edwards SHOULD be fired.

San Diego, my pre-season pick to win it all, won't.

Not all young quarterbacks are going to suck. If you check your top scorers at QB, odds are it looks something like: Cutler, Rodgers, Rivers.

Eli is a franchise QB.

McNabb really is an elite talent at QB, but he'll miss 4-6 games, and the Eagles will be on the bubble.

The Bears defense is back, and Forte is going to be a franchise work-horse guy for the next 5+ years.

The Lions will always be bad.

Minnesota is the best 0-2 team not to be screwed into 0-2.

The Cardinals will win their division.

These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?

Please, Add your own.

 
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minnesota is overrated. maybe not now, but pre-season they were. they were picked to win the Norse by some, and possibly challenge for a SB! :excited: maybe that was with favre and not jackson, but still this team not there yet.

Eli has matured into a good QB, but Cutler is emerging as an elite QB in the NFL.

 
Brady made Moss...not the other way.
If one severely under thrown pass is on target you're not saying this. Far too much evidence exist to the contrary of this point.
it would have been one more reception. Big whoop.
It would have been a 50 yd TD.... so yeah, that is big whoop.
We'll see how many 50 yard TDs he finds by season's end. FWIW, Brady doesn't underthrow the same ball. So, the QB situation IS affecting Moss, yes?
 
Two things right off the bat that I mentioned/predicted previously in other threads.

Kansas City is on there way to the no. 1 overall pick.

Larry Johnson is not far from planning fishing trips with Shaun Alexander.

 
Brady made Moss...not the other way.
If one severely under thrown pass is on target you're not saying this. Far too much evidence exist to the contrary of this point.
it would have been one more reception. Big whoop.
It would have been a 50 yd TD.... so yeah, that is big whoop.
We'll see how many 50 yard TDs he finds by season's end. FWIW, Brady doesn't underthrow the same ball. So, the QB situation IS affecting Moss, yes?
Of course the QB situation is having an effect. To say that the only reason Moss was an elite WR was Brady is simply false and ludicrous though. Moss caught a 50 yd pass from Cassel in week one and also had a TD from him. He has an entire career of making sub par QBs elite, yet after one week of poor fantasy stats people bail on him. Good luck with that. I'm going to start trying to trade for him now that I think about it.
 
Two things right off the bat that I mentioned/predicted previously in other threads.Kansas City is on there way to the no. 1 overall pick.Larry Johnson is not far from planning fishing trips with Shaun Alexander.
I don't have him in any leagues, but I've always liked Johnson. I'm holding out hope/wishful thinking for a few more weeks, but boy it doesn't look good.
 
Brady made Moss...not the other way.
If one severely under thrown pass is on target you're not saying this. Far too much evidence exist to the contrary of this point.
True, but Moss still could have made the catch anyway. That is certainly a ball that Moss is quite capable of coming back on and making the catch.
Reeves knocked the ball away after recovering from being beat by more than 5 yards.
 
Brady made Moss...not the other way.
If one severely under thrown pass is on target you're not saying this. Far too much evidence exist to the contrary of this point.
it would have been one more reception. Big whoop.
It would have been a 50 yd TD.... so yeah, that is big whoop.
We'll see how many 50 yard TDs he finds by season's end. FWIW, Brady doesn't underthrow the same ball. So, the QB situation IS affecting Moss, yes?
Of course the QB situation affects Moss, but 7/10 NFL QBs make that throw a TD because Moss was wide, the ####, open.
 
San Diego, my pre-season pick to win it all, won't.
Great thread. This is the only one I don't agree with. Sure they might not win it all, but they will be one of the better teams in the AFC, thus have a decent shot at winning it all. They could easily be 2-0 right now after losing to the Panthers in the last play of the game and to the Broncos because of the ref.
 
Trent Edwards doesn't suck anymore.

Brady made Moss...not the other way.

Marvin Lewis is looking for a job by new year's.

Cleveland will not make the playoffs.

Reshard Mendenhall WILL NOT keep Willie Parker from 300 carries this year.

The Colts will be fine, the Jaguars, not so much.

The Titans are a playoff team, especially with the QB change.

The "Denver RB" fantasy tease is DEAD. Welcome to RBBC hell.

Herm Edwards SHOULD be fired.

San Diego, my pre-season pick to win it all, won't.

Not all young quarterbacks are going to suck. If you check your top scorers at QB, odds are it looks something like: Cutler, Rodgers, Rivers.

Eli is a franchise QB.

McNabb really is an elite talent at QB, but he'll miss 4-6 games, and the Eagles will be on the bubble.

The Bears defense is back, and Forte is going to be a franchise work-horse guy for the next 5+ years.

The Lions will always be bad.

Minnesota is the best 0-2 team not to be screwed into 0-2.

The Cardinals will win their division.

These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?

Please, Add your own.
I'd have to disagree with your comment about Minny being the best 0-2 team. Other than ADP, their offense flat out sucks. Their run defense is still solid, their pass defense..not so much. I like the Jags better. Their O-line has been decimated by injuries. Give them a few weeks to practice togther and I say they rebound. They'll contend for a Wild Card spot.
 
Brady made Moss...not the other way.
If one severely under thrown pass is on target you're not saying this. Far too much evidence exist to the contrary of this point.
Are you referring to the one that bounced off his chest? It wasn't a well thrown ball, but in the reverse angle it looked like it cleared the DB and went right between Moss's hands into his chest.Moss is going to be tested this season. We'll see if he's a fairweather star or a team leader. We'll see if the old-old Moss is back or if the new-old Moss is back.They were showing a replay of a Cassell scramble and the color guy was talking about how Cassell had nothing open. The replay cuts to the Welker camera and the color guy shows the DB's blanketing him. Then the replay cuts to the Moss camera and the color guy just kinda goes silent as it clearly showed Moss looking back at Cassell and then quitting on his pattern, presumably when Cassell checked to Welker. Sad thing is Cassell looked back to him right before he decided to run to his side. It was deja vu all ovetr again!Moss is great...as long as he wants to be.
 
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The Bungles, Chiefs and Rams may not win a game - unless they play each other.

Brady Quinn will be starting sooner than later.

 
I will add a couple

The Vikes better win this weekend as there are staring an 0-5 start in the face (Carolina, @Saints, and somebody else good)

Right now the Pack front office looks like geniuses - but that pendulum is going to swing once there's more to study on Rodgers - and then it will swing back.

As bad as Detroit is, at least they manage some offense - Cincy and KC are flat out horrible.

 
These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?
Vick was a winner, he was certainly an above average QB while he was in the league. Culpepper was fine until he destroyed his knee. McNair and Cunningham were also very successful in that type of mold.
 
Brady made Moss...not the other way.
If one severely under thrown pass is on target you're not saying this. Far too much evidence exist to the contrary of this point.
Are you referring to the one that bounced off his chest? It wasn't a well thrown ball, but in the reverse angle it looked like it cleared the DB and went right between Moss's hands into his chest.Moss is great...as long as he wants to be.
Reeves had his hand between Moss' when he tried to cradle the ball. Reeves knocked it loose. Great play by him to recover after being beat that badly. Still... he should have never had that opportunity. Like said by another poster, 7/10 NFL QBs make that throw so that it isn't in question.
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2008	   New England Patriots   	 2	   2	  8	  138	  17.3	  51	  1	  --	  --	  --	  --	  --	  1	  12007 	New England Patriots 	16 	16 	98 	1,493 	15.2 	65T 	23 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	--2006 	Oakland Raiders 	13 	13 	42 	553 	13.2 	51 	3 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	--2005 	Oakland Raiders 	16 	15 	60 	1,005 	16.8 	79 	8 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	--2004 	Minnesota Vikings 	13 	13 	49 	767 	15.7 	82T 	13 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	-- 	1 	12003 	Minnesota Vikings 	16 	16 	111 	1,632 	14.7 	72 	17 	6 	18 	3.0 	11 	0 	1 	12002 	Minnesota Vikings 	16 	16 	106 	1,347 	12.7 	60 	7 	6 	51 	8.5 	25 	0 	1 	12001 	Minnesota Vikings 	16 	16 	82 	1,233 	15.0 	73T 	10 	3 	38 	12.7 	18 	0 	-- 	--2000 	Minnesota Vikings 	16 	16 	77 	1,437 	18.7 	78T 	15 	3 	5 	1.7 	9 	0 	2 	01999 	Minnesota Vikings 	16 	16 	80 	1,413 	17.7 	67T 	11 	4 	43 	10.8 	15 	0 	3 	31998 	Minnesota Vikings 	16 	11 	69 	1,313 	19.0 	61T 	17 	1 	4 	4.0 	4 	0 	2 	1
Luckily, Moss seems to "want" to far more than anyone around here ever wants to give him credit for. 10 years in the league, only 1 outside of the top 20 WRs, 7 top 5 finishes and 4 #1 finishes. Buy Moss now, the over reaction is at it's peak.
 
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Leinart will only see the field in mop up duty or if Warner gets injured.

Favre is not going to lead the Jets to the playoffs.

Atlanta will not go from last in the NFC South to first.

 
The Detroit Lions are still the Detroit Lions.

The only team in the NFL that both #1 and #2 picks are sitting on the bench.

 
These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?
Vick was a winner, he was certainly an above average QB while he was in the league. Culpepper was fine until he destroyed his knee. McNair and Cunningham were also very successful in that type of mold.
:doh: how can anyone say Vick didn't make that team. He had a winning record and when Atlanta was without him they were horrible.Was Vick an idiot in his personal life, yes, but he was a winner on the football field and anyone saying different is fairly clueless.
 
Brady made Moss...not the other way.
If one severely under thrown pass is on target you're not saying this. Far too much evidence exist to the contrary of this point.
Are you referring to the one that bounced off his chest? It wasn't a well thrown ball, but in the reverse angle it looked like it cleared the DB and went right between Moss's hands into his chest.Moss is great...as long as he wants to be.
Reeves had his hand between Moss' when he tried to cradle the ball. Reeves knocked it loose. Great play by him to recover after being beat that badly. Still... he should have never had that opportunity. Like said by another poster, 7/10 NFL QBs make that throw so that it isn't in question.
2008 New England Patriots 2 2 8 138 17.3 51 1 -- -- -- -- -- 1 12007 New England Patriots 16 16 98 1,493 15.2 65T 23 -- -- -- -- -- -- --2006 Oakland Raiders 13 13 42 553 13.2 51 3 -- -- -- -- -- -- --2005 Oakland Raiders 16 15 60 1,005 16.8 79 8 -- -- -- -- -- -- --2004 Minnesota Vikings 13 13 49 767 15.7 82T 13 -- -- -- -- -- 1 12003 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 111 1,632 14.7 72 17 6 18 3.0 11 0 1 12002 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 106 1,347 12.7 60 7 6 51 8.5 25 0 1 12001 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 82 1,233 15.0 73T 10 3 38 12.7 18 0 -- --2000 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 77 1,437 18.7 78T 15 3 5 1.7 9 0 2 01999 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 80 1,413 17.7 67T 11 4 43 10.8 15 0 3 31998 Minnesota Vikings 16 11 69 1,313 19.0 61T 17 1 4 4.0 4 0 2 1Luckily, Moss seems to "want" to far more than anyone around here ever wants to give him credit for. 10 years in the league, only 1 outside of the top 20 WRs, 7 top 5 finishes and 4 #1 finishes. Buy Moss now, the over reaction is at it's peak.
The ball bounced off Moss's chest. Revis had good coverage for most of the day, but not on that one, he never touched it.http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/footbal...s20080915115038

You may have to cut and paste the link.

 
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Trent Edwards doesn't suck anymore.

He doesn't suck, but I don't think he's as good as he's looked so far either

Brady made Moss...not the other way.

Funny, did Brady throw him the ball in Minnesota, too? C'mon, Moss will be fine.

Marvin Lewis is looking for a job by new year's.

It's about time

Cleveland will not make the playoffs.

I never thought they would...Anderson won't have the job two months from now IMHO

Reshard Mendenhall WILL NOT keep Willie Parker from 300 carries this year.

Very true. Willie Parker a real steal this year as injury and Mendenhall dropped him.

The Colts will be fine, the Jaguars, not so much.

Agree on both counts

The Titans are a playoff team, especially with the QB change.

Not seeing it. Kerry Collins is not a good QB, he'll implode sooner than later

The "Denver RB" fantasy tease is DEAD. Welcome to RBBC hell.

True indeed. Michael Pittman, TD Vulture :unsure:

Herm Edwards SHOULD be fired.

Before the season is over...

San Diego, my pre-season pick to win it all, won't.

If LT can shake it off, they still have a shot, but it's probably not for them in '08

Not all young quarterbacks are going to suck. If you check your top scorers at QB, odds are it looks something like: Cutler, Rodgers, Rivers.

Who said they would?

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Eli is a franchise QB.

Indeed he is

McNabb really is an elite talent at QB, but he'll miss 4-6 games, and the Eagles will be on the bubble.

You got the first part right, but he won't get hurt again. Fate isn't that cruel :)

The Bears defense is back, and Forte is going to be a franchise work-horse guy for the next 5+ years.

TRUE TRUE

The Lions will always be bad.

Not always, but until Barry Sanders son is ready to play :yes:

Minnesota is the best 0-2 team not to be screwed into 0-2.

Perhaps, but if you don't have a QB, you don't have a contending team in this league most of the time.

The Cardinals will win their division.

Quite possibly, with an 8-8 record

These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?

Please, Add your own.
 
Trent Edwards doesn't suck anymore.Brady made Moss...not the other way.Marvin Lewis is looking for a job by new year's.Cleveland will not make the playoffs.Reshard Mendenhall WILL NOT keep Willie Parker from 300 carries this year.The Colts will be fine, the Jaguars, not so much.The Titans are a playoff team, especially with the QB change.The "Denver RB" fantasy tease is DEAD. Welcome to RBBC hell.Herm Edwards SHOULD be fired.San Diego, my pre-season pick to win it all, won't.Not all young quarterbacks are going to suck. If you check your top scorers at QB, odds are it looks something like: Cutler, Rodgers, Rivers.Eli is a franchise QB.McNabb really is an elite talent at QB, but he'll miss 4-6 games, and the Eagles will be on the bubble.The Bears defense is back, and Forte is going to be a franchise work-horse guy for the next 5+ years. The Lions will always be bad.Minnesota is the best 0-2 team not to be screwed into 0-2.

The Cardinals will win their division.
These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?Please, Add your own.
Settle down there Sparky, that division is still wide open. Seattle will get healthy, and SF is improved(although still not convincing). The Cards should win, but are far,far, from a lock.
 
This years rookie class of rbs will produce superstars and solid starters

Dmac, Stewart, C. Johnson, Forte are already making huge impacts on their teams. This is not to mention the potential of Mendy, Rice, Kevin Smith and others...

 
-Assuming Jake Delhomme can actually stay healthy, the Panthers are an elite NFC team.

-Jay Cutler is a top 5 NFL QB (real, not just fantasy).

-The Patriots are still the best coached and best prepared team in football, on a week-to-week basis.

-Brett Favre misses being a Packer. You can sit in his eyes.

-The Rams have quit on Scott Linehan.

-Kurt Warner is still a very good NFL QB.

 
The Jets are well on their way to their fifth straight decade of futility and Brett Favre will regret going there.

 
These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?
Vick was a winner, he was certainly an above average QB while he was in the league. Culpepper was fine until he destroyed his knee. McNair and Cunningham were also very successful in that type of mold.
:shock: how can anyone say Vick didn't make that team. He had a winning record and when Atlanta was without him they were horrible.Was Vick an idiot in his personal life, yes, but he was a winner on the football field and anyone saying different is fairly clueless.
This statement by the OP is just off. Culpepper was not one of "those fast kids". He was big. He was not fast like Vick or Pryor, or even Young for that matter.
 
good stuff in here...

being a homer, I'd like to say the Cats ARE for real as long as they stay healthy. That said, I'd like to see them dominate earlier in the game. You can't come from behind in the 4th quarter every week, especially come playoff time. That said, they've faced two pretty tough defenses and come up with enough points to win. They're looking good.

 
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-Assuming Jake Delhomme can actually stay healthy, the Panthers are an elite NFC team.

-Jay Cutler is a top 5 NFL QB (real, not just fantasy).

-The Patriots are still the best coached and best prepared team in football, on a week-to-week basis.

-Brett Favre misses being a Packer. You can sit in his eyes.

-The Rams have quit on Scott Linehan.

-Kurt Warner is still a very good NFL QB.
After the red zone INT vs SD and then the "non-fumble" on the next drive?
 
Brady made Moss...not the other way.
If one severely under thrown pass is on target you're not saying this. Far too much evidence exist to the contrary of this point.
it would have been one more reception. Big whoop.
It would have been a 50 yd TD.... so yeah, that is big whoop.
We'll see how many 50 yard TDs he finds by season's end. FWIW, Brady doesn't underthrow the same ball. So, the QB situation IS affecting Moss, yes?
Good list, I agree with most of these but completely disagree with the Brady comment, Brady was clearly average stat wise w/o Moss where as Moss has been pretty much great whoever he played with outside of oakland where it isnt legal to be good. Im buying Moss in as many leagues as possible.
 

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