Things looking up for Gaither in Philly (1 Viewer)

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Jun 23, 2008 01:09 PM CDT

Gaither to do more blitzing

The News

Omar Gaither will be sent loose on blitzes more often as he moves to the weak side at linebacker in 2008, according to Eagles.com . Gaither said, "I still have to get comfortable at WLB, but I don't think it will take as long. You blitz a little more, do some more pass drops. The defense as a whole is focused on getting turnovers and we're doing things in practice to develop the right habits."

Our View

DC Jim Johnson also likes Gaither's nose for the ball, and thinks he will be a good fit on the weak side, and help the defense generate more turnovers. Gaither registered 102 tackles (70 solo) at middle linebacker in 2007. He could challenge 100 once again this season, along with a handful of sacks.

 

[noneother]

obviously in sack heavy this moves him up... he was on the bubble for my keeper list this year, the move tot he weak side made Bradley my new focus... this news may bring him back to even, maybe a nice piece of trade bait after a multi sack game?

 

[Weiner Dog]

I just can't get excited over Gaither. I'm surprised the Eagles may use him as a pass-rusher this year. The guy is slow and undersized (6'1" 235lbs). Maybe the Eagles view Gaither as a Thomas Davis type player, but I'm not so sure.

link:

http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/insidethenumbersdef.htm

2006 NFL DRAFT

Worst performers, 40 yard dash:

1. Kai Parham: 5.03

2. A.J. Nicholson: 4.91

3. Stephen Tulluch: 4.86

4. Keith Ellison: 4.84

5. Omar Gaither: 4.82

2008 stats

70-30

1 sack

1 INT

7 PD's

A rookie or UFA LB will be brought to Philly in '09 to compete.

 

[Zoomanji]

I just can't get excited over Gaither. I'm surprised the Eagles may use him as a pass-rusher this year. The guy is slow and undersized (6'1" 235lbs). Maybe the Eagles view Gaither as a Thomas Davis type player, but I'm not so sure.

link:

http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/insidethenumbersdef.htm

2006 NFL DRAFT

Worst performers, 40 yard dash:

1. Kai Parham: 5.03

2. A.J. Nicholson: 4.91

3. Stephen Tulluch: 4.86

4. Keith Ellison: 4.84

5. Omar Gaither: 4.82

2008 stats

70-30

1 sack

1 INT

7 PD's

A rookie or UFA LB will be brought to Philly in '09 to compete.

Obviously I'm a homer and I think Gaither is a player. I watch every Eagles game and he never has appeared slow to me. Maybe he had a bad 40 time but he seems fine on the field. But I'm curious about a post you made in another thread and if it supports or contradicts your assertions here.

so how badly does this really affect DJ williams' value? He played extremely well last season, why does Denver seem so intent on finding a MLB?

Because a lot of his tackles happened 5 yards downfield. A good fantasy players doesn't always mean a good defender.

The attached link (from another thread) shows DJ only allowing 3.05 yards/tackle. This ranked him in the Top 1/3 of all MLB's last year.link:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=239185

Average Tackle

2.14- Tatupu

2.39- Gaither

2.47- Henderson

2.74- Morrison

2.95- Pierce

3.05- DJ Williams

3.05- Ruud

3.29- Brackett

3.35- DiGiorgio

3.57- Witherspoon

3.63- Lenon

3.66- Fletcher

3.68- Peterson

3.76- Beason

3.76- Urlacher

3.83- Brooking

3.99- Barnett

4.08- Harris

4.10- Ryans

4.23- Simoneau

1.59- A. Davis

2.19- Foote

2.28- Scott

2.32- Farrior

2.67- Dansby

2.7- D. Smith

2.97- Ayodele

3.23- B. James

3.40- Hayes

3.51- Bruschi

3.51- L. Williams

3.62- Barton

3.86- Lewis

3.90- Willis

3.94- Cooper

4.38- D. Harris

4.49- Wilhelm

4.54- D'Qwell

 

[Weiner Dog]

Obviously I'm a homer and I think Gaither is a player. I watch every Eagles game and he never has appeared slow to me. Maybe he had a bad 40 time but he seems fine on the field. But I'm curious about a post you made in another thread and if it supports or contradicts your assertions here.

I was just confirming that DJ Williams did not "get dragged 5 yards down the field" by posting his yards allowed per tackle. I made no evaluation of DJ based upon those stats. With that being said, I like Williams MUCH MORE than Gaither. He's more of a complete player.Regarding Gaither's speed, he had 14 QB hurries but no sacks last year. The dude's playing tag but he's alway "it".

 

[Jene Bramel]

Obviously I'm a homer and I think Gaither is a player. I watch every Eagles game and he never has appeared slow to me. Maybe he had a bad 40 time but he seems fine on the field. But I'm curious about a post you made in another thread and if it supports or contradicts your assertions here.

I was just confirming that DJ Williams did not "get dragged 5 yards down the field" by posting his yards allowed per tackle. I made no evaluation of DJ based upon those stats. With that being said, I like Williams MUCH MORE than Gaither. He's more of a complete player.Regarding Gaither's speed, he had 14 QB hurries but no sacks last year. The dude's playing tag but he's alway "it".

Where did you find this nugget?

 

[Weiner Dog]

Obviously I'm a homer and I think Gaither is a player. I watch every Eagles game and he never has appeared slow to me. Maybe he had a bad 40 time but he seems fine on the field. But I'm curious about a post you made in another thread and if it supports or contradicts your assertions here.

I was just confirming that DJ Williams did not "get dragged 5 yards down the field" by posting his yards allowed per tackle. I made no evaluation of DJ based upon those stats. With that being said, I like Williams MUCH MORE than Gaither. He's more of a complete player.Regarding Gaither's speed, he had 14 QB hurries but no sacks last year. The dude's playing tag but he's alway "it".

Where did you find this nugget?

link:http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15607

 

[Chachi]

Jerry Rice didn't have a great 40 time.

Just sayin...

Jerry Rice ran a disappointing 4.7 in the 40 yard dash at the NFL combine, I wonder how many other receivers in his class had worse times, my guess is very, very few.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Obviously I'm a homer and I think Gaither is a player. I watch every Eagles game and he never has appeared slow to me. Maybe he had a bad 40 time but he seems fine on the field. But I'm curious about a post you made in another thread and if it supports or contradicts your assertions here.

I was just confirming that DJ Williams did not "get dragged 5 yards down the field" by posting his yards allowed per tackle. I made no evaluation of DJ based upon those stats. With that being said, I like Williams MUCH MORE than Gaither. He's more of a complete player.Regarding Gaither's speed, he had 14 QB hurries but no sacks last year. The dude's playing tag but he's alway "it".

Where did you find this nugget?

link:http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15607

Thanks. Didn't notice it in my first read. And I was hoping you had found a service that had that stat for all players.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Obviously I'm a homer and I think Gaither is a player. I watch every Eagles game and he never has appeared slow to me. Maybe he had a bad 40 time but he seems fine on the field. But I'm curious about a post you made in another thread and if it supports or contradicts your assertions here.

I was just confirming that DJ Williams did not "get dragged 5 yards down the field" by posting his yards allowed per tackle. I made no evaluation of DJ based upon those stats. With that being said, I like Williams MUCH MORE than Gaither. He's more of a complete player.Regarding Gaither's speed, he had 14 QB hurries but no sacks last year. The dude's playing tag but he's alway "it".

Where did you find this nugget?

link:http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15607

Thanks. Didn't notice it in my first read. And I was hoping you had found a service that had that stat for all players.

Yeah, I also wish I could find a service tracking hurries. If I wasn't so lazy, I guess I could start pulling NFL gamebooks.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Obviously I'm a homer and I think Gaither is a player. I watch every Eagles game and he never has appeared slow to me. Maybe he had a bad 40 time but he seems fine on the field. But I'm curious about a post you made in another thread and if it supports or contradicts your assertions here.

I was just confirming that DJ Williams did not "get dragged 5 yards down the field" by posting his yards allowed per tackle. I made no evaluation of DJ based upon those stats. With that being said, I like Williams MUCH MORE than Gaither. He's more of a complete player.Regarding Gaither's speed, he had 14 QB hurries but no sacks last year. The dude's playing tag but he's alway "it".

Where did you find this nugget?

link:http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15607

Thanks. Didn't notice it in my first read. And I was hoping you had found a service that had that stat for all players.

Yeah, I also wish I could find a service tracking hurries. If I wasn't so lazy, I guess I could start pulling NFL gamebooks.

Pro Football Prospectus will have some nuggets in there, but they don't include either hits or hurries in their stat boxes. I'm debating tracking some stuff on a weekly basis this season from the gamebooks (QH included). If I can be efficient enough to do it, I'll include the spreadsheet in the weekly RTD.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Don't know if he just had a bad 40 run before that draft or what, but he appears to play a lot faster on the field then a timed track event. Maybe it's one of those "if you see it rather than just look at the stats" situations.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Obviously I'm a homer and I think Gaither is a player. I watch every Eagles game and he never has appeared slow to me. Maybe he had a bad 40 time but he seems fine on the field. But I'm curious about a post you made in another thread and if it supports or contradicts your assertions here.

I was just confirming that DJ Williams did not "get dragged 5 yards down the field" by posting his yards allowed per tackle. I made no evaluation of DJ based upon those stats. With that being said, I like Williams MUCH MORE than Gaither. He's more of a complete player.Regarding Gaither's speed, he had 14 QB hurries but no sacks last year. The dude's playing tag but he's alway "it".

Where did you find this nugget?

link:http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15607

Thanks. Didn't notice it in my first read. And I was hoping you had found a service that had that stat for all players.

Yeah, I also wish I could find a service tracking hurries. If I wasn't so lazy, I guess I could start pulling NFL gamebooks.

Pro Football Prospectus will have some nuggets in there, but they don't include either hits or hurries in their stat boxes. I'm debating tracking some stuff on a weekly basis this season from the gamebooks (QH included). If I can be efficient enough to do it, I'll include the spreadsheet in the weekly RTD.

Best I could find.....Football Outsiders - Hurries Thru Wk 10

Seems like FO is the best (and only) source of this.

Really a shame that the NFL doesn't cover things like this better.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Obviously I'm a homer and I think Gaither is a player. I watch every Eagles game and he never has appeared slow to me. Maybe he had a bad 40 time but he seems fine on the field. But I'm curious about a post you made in another thread and if it supports or contradicts your assertions here.

I was just confirming that DJ Williams did not "get dragged 5 yards down the field" by posting his yards allowed per tackle. I made no evaluation of DJ based upon those stats. With that being said, I like Williams MUCH MORE than Gaither. He's more of a complete player.Regarding Gaither's speed, he had 14 QB hurries but no sacks last year. The dude's playing tag but he's alway "it".

Where did you find this nugget?

link:http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15607

Thanks. Didn't notice it in my first read. And I was hoping you had found a service that had that stat for all players.

Yeah, I also wish I could find a service tracking hurries. If I wasn't so lazy, I guess I could start pulling NFL gamebooks.

Pro Football Prospectus will have some nuggets in there, but they don't include either hits or hurries in their stat boxes. I'm debating tracking some stuff on a weekly basis this season from the gamebooks (QH included). If I can be efficient enough to do it, I'll include the spreadsheet in the weekly RTD.

Best I could find.....Football Outsiders - Hurries Thru Wk 10

Seems like FO is the best (and only) source of this.

Really a shame that the NFL doesn't cover things like this better.

Oooh, missed that one last year.The 2007 PFP had a nice article on hurries last season. They made a big enough deal about it that I'm hoping they'll include their game charting hits and hurries stat this season. Would definitely be cool to see the NFL add this. Seems like a natural extension and complementary stat to the passes defended number for the back seven.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Don't know if he just had a bad 40 run before that draft or what, but he appears to play a lot faster on the field then a timed track event. Maybe it's one of those "if you see it rather than just look at the stats" situations.

I agree with this. Gaither doesn't look slow on the field.

 

[DonFue]

Gaither was chubby last year b/c he was probably told to bulk up for the MLB duties. He looked slower with awful change of direction last year, especially compared to 2006. I'll bet he looks 10 lbs lighter this year which will help. Still, LB3 upside for 2008.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Gaither seems like a cool cat...

link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzuuT2f_x7w...feature=related

 

[pretender]

Gaither seems like a cool cat...

link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzuuT2f_x7w...feature=related

Nice Link - thanks!

 

[NorrisB]

Ive love to unload this scrub

 

[chook]

I've caught the last two Philly games and despite the small sample size, he's looked like a real player to me. With so many IDP guys it comes down to reading stat lines, which as we all know doesn't always tell the proper story. Watching Gaither make his way to the ball carrier on multiple occasions today told me that he has the speed as well as the ability to stick around for a while.

Whether or not this translates to fantasy success depends on his weekly matchups I guess.

 

[bucsbaby]

Gaither was a beast out there last night. Gocong also. That defense is a solid unit.

 

[Badm]

Gaither was a beast out there last night. Gocong also. That defense is a solid unit.

He steals alot of tackles from Bradley. Much more aggressive then Bradley. I think between Bradley and Gaither, one will have a monster game, the other an average game. Gonna be hard to judge who will have that monster game each week.

 

[T Bell]

Gaither was a beast out there last night. Gocong also. That defense is a solid unit.

He steals alot of tackles from Bradley. Much more aggressive then Bradley. I think between Bradley and Gaither, one will have a monster game, the other an average game. Gonna be hard to judge who will have that monster game each week.

He's going to have his ups and downs. I think he's an ideal LB4/5 as an IDP, who you aren't relying upon to necessarily get you 8 solos every week, but who you're starting enough, at least as a bye week/injury filler to capture some of his big games when he snags turnovers and sacks. His scoring pattern figures to be volatile, but certainly has some nice upside.