Think Najeh Davenport finds the endzone this week? (1 Viewer)

[Gig Em]

He looks like the first choice on goalline carries for Pittsburgh and they face Denver this week.

Does anyone else like his chances for a score?

 

[Jimboozie]

As a Parker owner, I sure hope not.

 

[NYCGangGreen]

As a new FWP owner, I sure as hell hope not.

 

[Steel Dillo]

Wouldn't suprise me to see Willie with 130 yds & Najeh with 60 yds and both with a score or two this week.

The Broncos are giving up 180+ yds/game and the altitude will require Willie to get several breathers during the game.

 

[PartyTyme]

I'm thinking about picking him up on waivers this week for this very reason (and also to handcuff FWP). That an all my other RBs (Green, Rudi, Morris) are hurt or sucking wind. This might be an all-Pittsburgh RB week for me.

 

[Banger]

I picked him up as a sneaky play this week. There's a good chance that he gets 8-10 carries because the Steelers are going to pound the ball all day long and Bronc's won't be able to stop them. The #2 rushing offense vs. the #32 defense. The Steelers may top 200 yards.

The Bronco's are a real dichotomy. I can never remember a defense being so good in one phase (pass defense #1) and so bad in another (run defense #32). I realize that the fact that a team can run on them all day makes teams less likely to pass against them but even if they had a good run defense I still think they'd be in the top 2-3 in pass defense.

 

[CrossEyed]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

 

[Banger]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

 

[MDSkinner]

One good week does not a goal line back make.

Najeh has 3 total carries inside the 10 this year...all three last week and 2 went for TD's.

Willie has 8, none of which are for TD's.

Does this show that Najeh will be the goal line back because he got those carries for one week? Maybe, but I would not bank on it. If he does it another week or two, then I am sold.

 

[tomdeck]

Anything new on his domestic problems? Will that cause any issues/distractions this week?

 

[Gig Em]

Anything new on his domestic problems? Will that cause any issues/distractions this week?

He has been charged with three misdemeanors.He won't miss any time.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

One good week does not a goal line back make.Najeh has 3 total carries inside the 10 this year...all three last week and 2 went for TD's.Willie has 8, none of which are for TD's. Does this show that Najeh will be the goal line back because he got those carries for one week? Maybe, but I would not bank on it. If he does it another week or two, then I am sold.

The way it looks from what you said,Willie 8 chances at goal line no Td's-Najeh 3 chances at goal line 2 Td's.Most coaches who see something like that will go more often to the guy who gets the Td's.

 

[CrossEyed]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

You're right, the coaches should completely ignore what he did last year and base their decision on 7 carries this year.

 

[Banger]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

You're right, the coaches should completely ignore what he did last year and base their decision on 7 carries this year.

The facts speak for themselves.

 

[Cookiemonster]

I'm seriously concidering him over F.Taylor this week.

 

[3C's]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

You're right, the coaches should completely ignore what he did last year and base their decision on 7 carries this year.

The facts speak for themselves.

FWP pulls himself out if he's tired. And since he's in on almost all of the plays he's done it a few times at the goalline. Najeh has produced when given the chance. It's not a situation of Najeh being the defacto goalline back.

 

[Godsbrother]

FWP pulls himself out if he's tired. And since he's in on almost all of the plays he's done it a few times at the goalline. Najeh has produced when given the chance. It's not a situation of Najeh being the defacto goalline back.

This sums it up perfectly. Going into the Seattle game the Steelers did not have a designated goalline back. We'll have to see whether or not Davenport's recent success has changed that.In any case I think Davenport is a decent play this week. As has been mentioned already, the Steelers are going to run and run often. FWP likes to take breathers as it is so playing at Mile High will only increase Davenport's opportunities. If Davenport is in and the Steelers are near the goalline they're going to feel very comfortable leaving him in.

 

[Steeler]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

You're right, the coaches should completely ignore what he did last year and base their decision on 7 carries this year.

The facts speak for themselves.

Not really. Have you analyzed all 11 (or whatever) carries between the two backs? I don't remember all of FWP goal line carries, but FWP would have scored on both of Davenport's TD last week. Davenport isn't really a good short yardage back so it's not like he is much more suited to the role than FWP. Davenport could become the goalline back because anything is possible, but it's not likely especially if you are basing on the 11 carries between the two backs so far this year.

 

[Steeler]

In any case I think Davenport is a decent play this week. As has been mentioned already, the Steelers are going to run and run often. FWP likes to take breathers as it is so playing at Mile High will only increase Davenport's opportunities. If Davenport is in and the Steelers are near the goalline they're going to feel very comfortable leaving him in.

Yeah, I agree that Davenport could be a good play this week due to all the circumstances of this particular opponent.

 

[CrossEyed]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

You're right, the coaches should completely ignore what he did last year and base their decision on 7 carries this year.

The facts speak for themselves.

Not really. Have you analyzed all 11 (or whatever) carries between the two backs? I don't remember all of FWP goal line carries, but FWP would have scored on both of Davenport's TD last week. Davenport isn't really a good short yardage back so it's not like he is much more suited to the role than FWP. Davenport could become the goalline back because anything is possible, but it's not likely especially if you are basing on the 11 carries between the two backs so far this year.

Don't bother. Even though all the Steeler fans who actually watch the games have said this, the "experts" out there have figured out that Najeh is the goal line back now. Good luck with that.

 

[sho nuff]

I'm thinking about picking him up on waivers this week for this very reason (and also to handcuff FWP). That an all my other RBs (Green, Rudi, Morris) are hurt or sucking wind. This might be an all-Pittsburgh RB week for me.

Najeh asks that you do not use the word handcuff around him with his pending legal situation.

 

[sho nuff]

One good week does not a goal line back make.Najeh has 3 total carries inside the 10 this year...all three last week and 2 went for TD's.Willie has 8, none of which are for TD's. Does this show that Najeh will be the goal line back because he got those carries for one week? Maybe, but I would not bank on it. If he does it another week or two, then I am sold.

The way it looks from what you said,Willie 8 chances at goal line no Td's-Najeh 3 chances at goal line 2 Td's.Most coaches who see something like that will go more often to the guy who gets the Td's.

Parker scored 16 total TDs last year.I think coaches can remember that too.

 

[Banger]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

You're right, the coaches should completely ignore what he did last year and base their decision on 7 carries this year.

The facts speak for themselves.

Not really. Have you analyzed all 11 (or whatever) carries between the two backs? I don't remember all of FWP goal line carries, but FWP would have scored on both of Davenport's TD last week. Davenport isn't really a good short yardage back so it's not like he is much more suited to the role than FWP. Davenport could become the goalline back because anything is possible, but it's not likely especially if you are basing on the 11 carries between the two backs so far this year.

Don't bother. Even though all the Steeler fans who actually watch the games have said this, the "experts" out there have figured out that Najeh is the goal line back now. Good luck with that.

It probably means nothing but like it or not Parker hasn't done very well this year with his carries inside the 10. There's no disputing that. The Steelers haven't exactly suffered as a result but it's worth watching nonetheless.

 

[Banger]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

You're right, the coaches should completely ignore what he did last year and base their decision on 7 carries this year.

The facts speak for themselves.

Not really. Have you analyzed all 11 (or whatever) carries between the two backs? I don't remember all of FWP goal line carries, but FWP would have scored on both of Davenport's TD last week. Davenport isn't really a good short yardage back so it's not like he is much more suited to the role than FWP. Davenport could become the goalline back because anything is possible, but it's not likely especially if you are basing on the 11 carries between the two backs so far this year.

Below are the carries inside the opponents 10 yard line last year and this year. Parker was very effective last year (and Davenport pretty ineffective), 12 tds on 34 carries and not so much this year, 8 carries - 0 tds. 1 Willie Parker rb 2006 34 94 2.76 12

2 Najeh Davenport rb 2006 11 -5 -0.45 1

3 Willie Parker rb 2007 8 11 1.38 0

5 Najeh Davenport rb 2007 3 6 2.00 2

 

[LILB811]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

You're right, the coaches should completely ignore what he did last year and base their decision on 7 carries this year.

The facts speak for themselves.

Not really. Have you analyzed all 11 (or whatever) carries between the two backs? I don't remember all of FWP goal line carries, but FWP would have scored on both of Davenport's TD last week. Davenport isn't really a good short yardage back so it's not like he is much more suited to the role than FWP. Davenport could become the goalline back because anything is possible, but it's not likely especially if you are basing on the 11 carries between the two backs so far this year.

Don't bother. Even though all the Steeler fans who actually watch the games have said this, the "experts" out there have figured out that Najeh is the goal line back now. Good luck with that.

It probably means nothing but like it or not Parker hasn't done very well this year with his carries inside the 10. There's no disputing that. The Steelers haven't exactly suffered as a result but it's worth watching nonetheless.

I'm not sure your take would be the same if you had seen the games. Davenport's TD's were both cake walks into the end zone, and the only reason he was in was after a long Willie run. The fact is that inside the 10, much of an RB's success depends on O-Line play, which hasn't been great when Parker's been in there. It's not like he's been dancing around trying to make some ridiculous play. I guess because Parker's TD this year is from 11 yards out instead of 10 or less, he's not as good of a goal line back? Najeh may vulture a TD at one point, but he is by no means the short yardage guy. The coaches know that Willie can get it done, and he will have first crack as long as he's not winded.

 

[Steeler]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

You're right, the coaches should completely ignore what he did last year and base their decision on 7 carries this year.

The facts speak for themselves.

Not really. Have you analyzed all 11 (or whatever) carries between the two backs? I don't remember all of FWP goal line carries, but FWP would have scored on both of Davenport's TD last week. Davenport isn't really a good short yardage back so it's not like he is much more suited to the role than FWP. Davenport could become the goalline back because anything is possible, but it's not likely especially if you are basing on the 11 carries between the two backs so far this year.

Below are the carries inside the opponents 10 yard line last year and this year. Parker was very effective last year (and Davenport pretty ineffective), 12 tds on 34 carries and not so much this year, 8 carries - 0 tds. 1 Willie Parker rb 2006 34 94 2.76 12

2 Najeh Davenport rb 2006 11 -5 -0.45 1

3 Willie Parker rb 2007 8 11 1.38 0

5 Najeh Davenport rb 2007 3 6 2.00 2

I'm not going to continue to argue with you but I've watched the games and I'm not relying on the stats. I'm saying the stats don't tell an accurate story and looking at the stats alone will give you a false sense of the goalline abilities of the two backs

 

[Banger]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

I don't know...it's not as if he carried the ball down the field on his two td's last game. The 1st one he came in on 1st and 1 and took two pops at it and on the 2nd one he came in on 2nd and 5 from the 5 and ran it in. On the 2nd run Parker ran it on 1st and 5 for 0 yards, in comes Najeh and runs it in. Smells a little like a goal line back to me.1 10:14 0 - 0 3rd-and-12 own 45 caught pass for 7 yards

2 8:53 0 - 0 3rd-and-19 own 34 caught pass for 6 yards

2 4:03 0 - 0 2nd-and-18 own 35 rushed for 45 yards (first down)

3 12:07 7 - 0 1st-and-10 own 42 rushed for 2 yards

3 12:07 7 - 0 3rd-and-11 own 41 caught pass for 8 yards

3 5:21 7 - 0 1st-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 4:46 7 - 0 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN

3 0:25 14 - 0 1st-and-10 own 38 rushed for 1 yards

4 12:55 21 - 0 3rd-and-3 opp 36 caught pass for 17 yards (first down)

4 10:10 21 - 0 2nd-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 5 yards TOUCHDOWN

ETA... here are all Parker's carries inside the 10 this year...

1 13:23 0 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for -2 yards

3 11:14 17 - 0 1st-and-7 opp 7 rushed for 2 yards

3 6:00 12 - 3 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 4 yards

3 5:21 12 - 3 2nd-and-1 opp 1 rushed for 0 yards

3 2:12 7 - 7 1st-and-4 opp 4 rushed for 2 yards

3 1:36 7 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 2 rushed for 0 yards

4 10:50 21 - 0 1st-and-5 opp 5 rushed for 0 yards

It looks like he could use a goal line back. He's been pretty ineffective (7 carries for 6 yards)

You're right, the coaches should completely ignore what he did last year and base their decision on 7 carries this year.

The facts speak for themselves.

Not really. Have you analyzed all 11 (or whatever) carries between the two backs? I don't remember all of FWP goal line carries, but FWP would have scored on both of Davenport's TD last week. Davenport isn't really a good short yardage back so it's not like he is much more suited to the role than FWP. Davenport could become the goalline back because anything is possible, but it's not likely especially if you are basing on the 11 carries between the two backs so far this year.

Below are the carries inside the opponents 10 yard line last year and this year. Parker was very effective last year (and Davenport pretty ineffective), 12 tds on 34 carries and not so much this year, 8 carries - 0 tds. 1 Willie Parker rb 2006 34 94 2.76 12

2 Najeh Davenport rb 2006 11 -5 -0.45 1

3 Willie Parker rb 2007 8 11 1.38 0

5 Najeh Davenport rb 2007 3 6 2.00 2

I'm not going to continue to argue with you but I've watched the games and I'm not relying on the stats. I'm saying the stats don't tell an accurate story and looking at the stats alone will give you a false sense of the goalline abilities of the two backs

Fair enough and I think you're right. After listening to the various Steeler posters it seems more coincidental than anything. Good stuff.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

He is not "the goal line back". Yes, he has gotten some goal line carries this year, but Parker does not get pulled at the goal line.

Correct.But, when FWP gets the ball at the goal line he gets stuffed. When Najeh does, he scores.

 

[xenith]

FWP scores 3 TDs this week...I hope!

 

[gj1995]

Why can't FWP just run the damn ball into the endzone if he is so fast? Why does he need a fatter, slower and just as powerful FB to run it in himself? Is PITT trying to establish another BUS in Steel Town?

 

[Godsbrother]

Why can't FWP just run the damn ball into the endzone if he is so fast? Why does he need a fatter, slower and just as powerful FB to run it in himself? Is PITT trying to establish another BUS in Steel Town?

Parker was very effective last season. Sometimes plays work and sometimes they don't. It doesn't always come down to the runner -- there are 21 other players on the field.