Think you pay a lot in tolls? (1 Viewer)

[fantasycurse42]

Drivers in New York and New Jersey account for 1/3 of all tolls paid in the United States.

Verrazano Bridge: $16

Holland/Lincoln Tunnels: $14

Outer/Goethals/Bayonne/GW Bridge: $14

Midtown/Brooklyn Battery Tunnel: $8

Triborough/Whitestone/Throgs Neck Bridges: $8

The NJ Turnpike/GSP also make up for a lot of overpriced tolls as well. The top one (Verrazano Bridge) was $6 when I got my license in 2000 - I'm sure the 300% increase over 15 years is justified, these will all be over $50 before I'm dead.

Supposedly Maryland is pretty expensive too

The top three tolling agencies in the country are all in the New York-New Jersey region, and together account for nearly a third of all tolls collected nationwide, an industry group says.

The top three are: the New Jersey Turnpike Authority, which collected $1.42 billion in tolls on the turnpike and the Garden State Parkway in 2013; the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which took in $1.33 billion at its four bridges and two tunnels linking the two states; and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which collected $1.23 billion at its New York City bridges and tunnels.

The top ten list was compiled by the International Bridges, Tunnels and Turnpike Association, a group based in Washington, D.C. The $4 billion in tolls the three agencies took in was nearly a third of the $13 billion collected from motorists nationwide, the IBTTA found.

 

[General Malaise]

What's a toll road?


- Sincerely,

West Coast

 

[BowieMercs]

What's a toll road?

- Sincerely,

West Coast

Sorta like 17 Mile Drive, but not for sightseeing

 

[B Maverick]

What's a toll road?

- Sincerely,

West Coast

there are several in Southern California.

 

[NutterButter]

I don't pay any tolls in NW NJ. You've got to love those interstates.

 

[Henry Ford]

What's a toll road?

- Sincerely,

West Coast

Evergreen Point Bridge.Sincerely,

Google

 

[Fennis]

What's a toll road?

- Sincerely,

West Coast

Evergreen Point Bridge.Sincerely,

Google

520

sincerely,

All of Seattle 95%+ of who have no idea it is called Evergreen Point Bridge

 

[shadyridr]

Driving to work costs me $15 a day

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I can't even remember the last time a paid a toll on a road.

 

[Snoopy]

Where they get you is the excessive surcharges they bill you for if you accidentally let your transponder funds empty out and then drive on the toll road.

 

[ArbyMelt]

for those that aren't paying tolls ... check your city, county and state tax bills, I am sure they are billing you

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Toll roads are incrementally creeping into Colorado. 20 years ago there were none. Now we have e-470, an outer beltway which is a toll road. we also have toll lanes creeping in on some busy stretches, basically operating in HOV lanes where you can have multiple passengers or pay a toll. They are now talking about a toll lane for portions of the drive up to and back down from the ski resorts.

The camel has his nose in the tent and he is making plans to take up residency.

 

[Amused to Death]

I don't pay any tolls in NW NJ. You've got to love those interstates.

You don't pay tolls for any government owned road or bridge in NJ. We pay tolls for roads/bridges/tunnels owned by private agencies like the Port Authority, New Jersey Turnpike Authority (who also own the Parkway) and the Delaware River Joint Toll Bridge Commission.

However that may be changing unless our wonderful Governor can find a sensible way to fund the Transportation Trust Fund.

Speaking of our Governor....

 

[JoeSteeler]

should be added to the "Things you hate spending money on" thread

 

[fantasycurse42]

Where they get you is the excessive surcharges they bill you for if you accidentally let your transponder funds empty out and then drive on the toll road.

Your EZ Pass should be hooked up to your CC so this never happens.

Toll roads are incrementally creeping into Colorado. 20 years ago there were none. Now we have e-470, an outer beltway which is a toll road. we also have toll lanes creeping in on some busy stretches, basically operating in HOV lanes where you can have multiple passengers or pay a toll. They are now talking about a toll lane for portions of the drive up to and back down from the ski resorts.

The camel has his nose in the tent and he is making plans to take up residency.

They've jacked NY/NJ to such ridiculous amounts, other places in the country are taking notice how much revenue it is adding up to - $4 billion last year!!

 

[Henry Ford]

I have to pay $3 to drive into New Orleans over the Pontchartrain bridge. It's free if I take I-12. And it's free to drive back across the bridge away from New Orleans. Seems fair.

 

[Snoopy]

we also have toll lanes creeping in on some busy stretches, basically operating in HOV lanes where you can have multiple passengers or pay a toll. They are now talking about a toll lane for portions of the drive up to and back down from the ski resorts.

Those are "HOT" (High Occupancy Toll) lanes. They are free for 3+ occupants or pay a toll. They are also pejoratively referred as "Lexus lanes" as critics claim they let richer drivers avoid traffic jams. Tolls on these are variable and go higher when there is more traffic on the road.

 

[NutterButter]

I don't pay any tolls in NW NJ. You've got to love those interstates.

You don't pay tolls for any government owned road or bridge in NJ. We pay tolls for roads/bridges/tunnels owned by private agencies like the Port Authority, New Jersey Turnpike Authority (who also own the Parkway) and the Delaware River Joint Toll Bridge Commission.

However that may be changing unless our wonderful Governor can find a sensible way to fund the Transportation Trust Fund.

Speaking of our Governor....

The New Jersey Turnpike Authority is privately owned? Wikipedia says its a state agency.

 

[Snoopy]

I don't pay any tolls in NW NJ. You've got to love those interstates.

You don't pay tolls for any government owned road or bridge in NJ. We pay tolls for roads/bridges/tunnels owned by private agencies like the Port Authority, New Jersey Turnpike Authority (who also own the Parkway) and the Delaware River Joint Toll Bridge Commission.

However that may be changing unless our wonderful Governor can find a sensible way to fund the Transportation Trust Fund.

Speaking of our Governor....

The New Jersey Turnpike Authority is privately owned? Wikipedia says its a state agency.

Yes it looks like a government agency: http://www.state.nj.us/turnpike/who-we-are.html

 

[Amused to Death]

I don't pay any tolls in NW NJ. You've got to love those interstates.

You don't pay tolls for any government owned road or bridge in NJ. We pay tolls for roads/bridges/tunnels owned by private agencies like the Port Authority, New Jersey Turnpike Authority (who also own the Parkway) and the Delaware River Joint Toll Bridge Commission.

However that may be changing unless our wonderful Governor can find a sensible way to fund the Transportation Trust Fund.

Speaking of our Governor....

The New Jersey Turnpike Authority is privately owned? Wikipedia says its a state agency.

I know its separate from the NJ DOT and all the tolls go towards maintenance and construction. Which is why I believe all of the tolls for those agencies have increased. They all have construction projects going on right now (Goethals Bridge, Newark, JFK, La Guardia, Turnpike & Parkway). Toll increases are funding those projects and not tax dollars.

 

[Fennis]

we also have toll lanes creeping in on some busy stretches, basically operating in HOV lanes where you can have multiple passengers or pay a toll. They are now talking about a toll lane for portions of the drive up to and back down from the ski resorts.

Those are "HOT" (High Occupancy Toll) lanes. They are free for 3+ occupants or pay a toll. They are also pejoratively referred as "Lexus lanes" as critics claim they let richer drivers avoid traffic jams. Tolls on these are variable and go higher when there is more traffic on the road.

I was opposed to the HOT lanes they just built near me, but now that its here I am very happy with it. I pay $.75 a day at my entrance and shave a good 10 - 15 minutes off my previously 30-minute commute.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

for those that aren't paying tolls ... check your city, county and state tax bills, I am sure they are billing you

More than likely.

But for those of you who live in areas where the tolls are high as hell does that mean your state and local taxes are low?

 

[fantasycurse42]

These HOT/Lexus lanes sound awesome.

 

[Mr. Soup Nazi]

Only time I pay tolls is passing through Oklahoma.

 

[the moops]

Should be more tolls. Make it pricey too. Best way to get people serious about carpooling or using mass transit.

 

[General Malaise]

for those that aren't paying tolls ... check your city, county and state tax bills, I am sure they are billing you

More than likely.

But for those of you who live in areas where the tolls are high as hell does that mean your state and local taxes are low?

Yeah, they virtually pay you to live in New Jersey.

 

[The Big Guy]

for those that aren't paying tolls ... check your city, county and state tax bills, I am sure they are billing you

More than likely.

But for those of you who live in areas where the tolls are high as hell does that mean your state and local taxes are low?

I am not certain what the average property tax bill is in NJ, but they do range from 3000/year to as high as 60000/year. It all depends on the town and county that you are in. It is quite the anal intrusion.

 

[BowieMercs]

we also have toll lanes creeping in on some busy stretches, basically operating in HOV lanes where you can have multiple passengers or pay a toll. They are now talking about a toll lane for portions of the drive up to and back down from the ski resorts.

Those are "HOT" (High Occupancy Toll) lanes. They are free for 3+ occupants or pay a toll. They are also pejoratively referred as "Lexus lanes" as critics claim they let richer drivers avoid traffic jams. Tolls on these are variable and go higher when there is more traffic on the road.

I love the HOT lanes in VA. All the dbags in BMWs, Lexuses etc use them (& bill their clients im sure) and leave us alone in the "peasant lanes"

 

[fantasycurse42]

for those that aren't paying tolls ... check your city, county and state tax bills, I am sure they are billing you

More than likely.

But for those of you who live in areas where the tolls are high as hell does that mean your state and local taxes are low?

Yeah, they virtually pay you to live in New Jersey.

You sure about that? Scroll down to the tax history.

 

[tommyGunZ]

for those that aren't paying tolls ... check your city, county and state tax bills, I am sure they are billing you

More than likely.

But for those of you who live in areas where the tolls are high as hell does that mean your state and local taxes are low?

Yeah, they virtually pay you to live in New Jersey.

Being east coast transplants in SoCal, wifey and I often have friends family from the east coast often ask us if we will ever move back. We've talked about it - maybe a 5X salary increase would be worth it? Maybe. Probably more like 10X for Jersey.

 

[avoiding injuries]

DE may have the most tolls per mile. You pay when you enter, you pay when you leave, and you pay all up and down Rt 1.

 

[Anarchy99]

I know someone that works in NYC that pays $27 in tolls each way commuting to work. He ends up paying like $13,000 in tolls a year.

 

[fantasycurse42]

I know someone that works in NYC that pays $27 in tolls each way commuting to work. He ends up paying like $13,000 in tolls a year.

More MOP math?

 

[General Malaise]

for those that aren't paying tolls ... check your city, county and state tax bills, I am sure they are billing you

More than likely.

But for those of you who live in areas where the tolls are high as hell does that mean your state and local taxes are low?

Yeah, they virtually pay you to live in New Jersey.

You sure about that? Scroll down to the tax history.

 

[Henry Ford]

I know someone that works in NYC that pays $27 in tolls each way commuting to work. He ends up paying like $13,000 in tolls a year.

More MOP math?

5 days a week x 50 work weeks per year x $54 round trip is $13,500 per year. What am I missing?

 

[St. Louis Bob]

You gotta pay the troll toll if you want to get into that little boy's soul.

 

[NCCommish]

No tolls here. I get charged a decent amount of tax on my car but its not anything like the tolls described here. Registration, taxes,inspection all came to about 200.00 .

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Ha, those toll fees are pretty funny. The city of New Orleans just rose up last year and voted down the outrageous toll we've been paying to cross the Miss. River - one way only mind you - for 30+ years.

The fee? $1.

 

[fantasycurse42]

I know someone that works in NYC that pays $27 in tolls each way commuting to work. He ends up paying like $13,000 in tolls a year.

More MOP math?

5 days a week x 50 work weeks per year x $54 round trip is $13,500 per year. What am I missing?

I was referring to the friend, I don't know how that is possible... There is a price break for having EZ Pass, also, most of the tolls are one way.

In example, you pay the GWB, Holland, or Lincoln coming in, but not going out - As mentioned they are also discounted for having an EZ Pass, and anyone going everyday has an EZ Pass. The only possible route I can see this as a possibility is Outerbridge, to Battery Tunnel (which is a two way toll, but can be avoided by the nearby Brooklyn Bridge or Manhattan Bridge), back to the Battery Tunnel and over the Verrazano Bridge - If he is doing this, god bless, and hopefully he should have a job that makes the $$$ look like peanuts.

 

[Henry Ford]

I know someone that works in NYC that pays $27 in tolls each way commuting to work. He ends up paying like $13,000 in tolls a year.

More MOP math?

5 days a week x 50 work weeks per year x $54 round trip is $13,500 per year. What am I missing?

I was referring to the friend, I don't know how that is possible... There is a price break for having EZ Pass, also, most of the tolls are one way.

In example, you pay the GWB, Holland, or Lincoln coming in, but not going out - As mentioned they are also discounted for having an EZ Pass, and anyone going everyday has an EZ Pass. The only possible route I can see this as a possibility is Outerbridge, to Battery Tunnel (which is a two way toll, but can be avoided by the nearby Brooklyn Bridge or Manhattan Bridge), back to the Battery Tunnel and over the Verrazano Bridge - If he is doing this, god bless, and hopefully he should have a job that makes the $$$ look like peanuts.

I thought only Californians talked like this.

 

[comfortably numb]

Speaking of ez pass.

What is with you freaks driving toll lanes and not having ez pass?

I drove into PA this weekend and got off an exit nearing the toll and almost caused a 34 car pile up as I turned the bend and came to a log jam of 5 lanes 10 cars long each for the cash lane.

Bunch of freaks

 

[Snoopy]

Speaking of ez pass.

What is with you freaks driving toll lanes and not having ez pass?

I drove into PA this weekend and got off an exit nearing the toll and almost caused a 34 car pile up as I turned the bend and came to a log jam of 5 lanes 10 cars long each for the cash lane.

Bunch of freaks

An outsider who where they live either doesn't have toll roads or uses a different transponder that is not compatible with EZ Pass or an infrequent toll road user?

 

[Sand]

I have to pay $3 to drive into New Orleans over the Pontchartrain bridge. It's free if I take I-12. And it's free to drive back across the bridge away from New Orleans. Seems fair.

On the other side the effort to throw out the toll over the GNO was (finally) successful - amazing what that money was being spent on after the bridge was paid for. So awesome just flying through those gates.

Here in Alabama I think there is one toll road. Easily avoided, as well.

 

[The Big Guy]

I know someone that works in NYC that pays $27 in tolls each way commuting to work. He ends up paying like $13,000 in tolls a year.

More MOP math?

5 days a week x 50 work weeks per year x $54 round trip is $13,500 per year. What am I missing?

I was referring to the friend, I don't know how that is possible... There is a price break for having EZ Pass, also, most of the tolls are one way.

In example, you pay the GWB, Holland, or Lincoln coming in, but not going out - As mentioned they are also discounted for having an EZ Pass, and anyone going everyday has an EZ Pass. The only possible route I can see this as a possibility is Outerbridge, to Battery Tunnel (which is a two way toll, but can be avoided by the nearby Brooklyn Bridge or Manhattan Bridge), back to the Battery Tunnel and over the Verrazano Bridge - If he is doing this, god bless, and hopefully he should have a job that makes the $$$ look like peanuts.

Let's say he lives in Jackson NJ. Not too far for a driving commute and has to go into Brooklyn or Long Island daily. He spends $4.60 a day on the turnpike each way, then goes over the Goethals which is $6 if you sign up for the commuter plan or 11.75 if he doesn't. Lastly the infamous Verranzano bridge which gets you an additional 11.08 with ez pass discount.

So that adds up to 26.28 a day for what is definitely a horrible commute.

 

[The Ref]

These HOT/Lexus lanes sound awesome.

I'd gladly pay extra for my own lane.

 

[Gadabout]

Having to pay to drive to/through Staten Island is criminal.

 

[Kev4029]

Toll roads are incrementally creeping into Colorado. 20 years ago there were none. Now we have e-470, an outer beltway which is a toll road. we also have toll lanes creeping in on some busy stretches, basically operating in HOV lanes where you can have multiple passengers or pay a toll. They are now talking about a toll lane for portions of the drive up to and back down from the ski resorts.

The camel has his nose in the tent and he is making plans to take up residency.

There are plans for a toll road on I-25 from Denver to Ft Collins (Park Ave to 36 has obviously been done for years, 36 to 120th is being completed now, 120th to 470 will be getting going within a year or so). C-470 is getting a toll lane both directions from I-25 to Wadsworth, with construction starting next summer. The toll lane through Idaho Springs (Peak Period Shoulder Lane) will being tolling hopefully just after Thanksgiving. Get used to seeing this in Colorado, it is the only way the State can find the funding to widen or improve many of the major corridors throughout the metro area.

ETA: The Peak Period Shoulder Lane will not be a HOT/HOV lane, you will be tolled regardless of how many passengers there are in the car.

 

[fantasycurse42]

I know someone that works in NYC that pays $27 in tolls each way commuting to work. He ends up paying like $13,000 in tolls a year.

More MOP math?

5 days a week x 50 work weeks per year x $54 round trip is $13,500 per year. What am I missing?

I was referring to the friend, I don't know how that is possible... There is a price break for having EZ Pass, also, most of the tolls are one way.

In example, you pay the GWB, Holland, or Lincoln coming in, but not going out - As mentioned they are also discounted for having an EZ Pass, and anyone going everyday has an EZ Pass. The only possible route I can see this as a possibility is Outerbridge, to Battery Tunnel (which is a two way toll, but can be avoided by the nearby Brooklyn Bridge or Manhattan Bridge), back to the Battery Tunnel and over the Verrazano Bridge - If he is doing this, god bless, and hopefully he should have a job that makes the $$$ look like peanuts.

Let's say he lives in Jackson NJ. Not too far for a driving commute and has to go into Brooklyn or Long Island daily. He spends $4.60 a day on the turnpike each way, then goes over the Goethals which is $6 if you sign up for the commuter plan or 11.75 if he doesn't. Lastly the infamous Verranzano bridge which gets you an additional 11.08 with ez pass discount.So that adds up to 26.28 a day for what is definitely a horrible commute.

Jackson, NJ to Long Island? That sounds like hell. That has to be between 2-2.5 hours each way durning rush hour. This guys spends 20-25 hours a week in his car commuting.

 

[The Big Guy]

Having to pay to drive to/through Staten Island is criminal.

When I lived on SI the joke always was that SI was like Disney because you had to pay to enter. The only free way into the island is the ferry (now, used to pay) or you could walk over the Bayonne bridge.

Total joke.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Having to pay to drive to/through Staten Island is criminal.

It should be like the West Bank, free to get in, pay to get out.