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[Gopher State]

Chiefs | T. Jones to visit Monday

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Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:31:12 -0800

Adam Schefter, of ESPN, reports the Kansas City Chiefs will meet with unrestricted free-agent RB Thomas Jones (Jets) Monday, March 8.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0hS3rXDqe

 

[Mimo]

J Charles value will take a quick fall if Jones signs. This also quietly says KC doesn't view JC as a workhorse.

 

[Black]

Chiefs also supposedly wanted to look at Sproles...I don't think they view Charles as a workhorse.

Also don't agree that it's a good place for T.Jones. I think he would do better in a place like San Diego, with an established 3rd down back that needs a 1-2nd down and short yardage guy. Maybe Houston.

 

[duece2626]

Saw Bloom tweet that Charles is NOT a longterm workhorse and KC knows it.

 

[B. Nugget]

Saw Bloom tweet that Charles is NOT a longterm workhorse and KC knows it.

The Chiefs also need RB depth. Quick...can anyone name the 2nd and 3rd string guys in KC? I'm a Chiefs fan and I would guess Jackie Battle and Kolby Smith, but they are both pretty iffy and could easily be replaced.

 

[cr8f]

Saw Bloom tweet that Charles is NOT a longterm workhorse and KC knows it.

That's one mans opinion. Doubt he wants to get killed behind that offensive line. Thomas may use their interest to get other teams to boost their offers.

 

[duece2626]

Saw Bloom tweet that Charles is NOT a longterm workhorse and KC knows it.

That's one mans opinion. Doubt he wants to get killed behind that offensive line. Thomas may use their interest to get other teams to boost their offers.

I realize that. Just stating what I read.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Saw Bloom tweet that Charles is NOT a longterm workhorse and KC knows it.

If they ask Charles to run the ball 300 times a year, they'll use him up by 2012. its best for his long term fantasy value that they limit him to 15-18 carries a game.

 

[Banger]

SSSCCCCCRRRREEEEEEEEEEEECCCHHHH!!!!!!!! I think I just heard the Charles hype train come to a halt.....

 

[Banger]

Chiefs also supposedly wanted to look at Sproles...I don't think they view Charles as a workhorse.Also don't agree that it's a good place for T.Jones. I think he would do better in a place like San Diego, with an established 3rd down back that needs a 1-2nd down and short yardage guy. Maybe Houston.

I don't know, I think Jones was helped tremendously by that line. Running side by side, Greene was head and shoulders above Jones. That line is darn good and with SDs line I don't know that he'd be much better than LT. The Chargers need to start over, not delay. Take a swing at a Choice or Michael Bush or some one else that has a couple good young backs.

 

[D'OHtis]

Charles is going to need a backfield partner. They have absolutely no one. I still expect to see him getting 15+ carries/game. No way I view him as a 20+ carry back and having a long career.

 

[fissure man]

Cheifs have no oline. Jones would be shell shocked to run behind that line after leaving the Jets.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Chiefs also supposedly wanted to look at Sproles...I don't think they view Charles as a workhorse.

Also don't agree that it's a good place for T.Jones. I think he would do better in a place like San Diego, with an established 3rd down back that needs a 1-2nd down and short yardage guy. Maybe Houston.

I don't know, I think Jones was helped tremendously by that line. Running side by side, Greene was head and shoulders above Jones. That line is darn good and with SDs line I don't know that he'd be much better than LT. The Chargers need to start over, not delay. Take a swing at a Choice or Michael Bush or some one else that has a couple good young backs.

If you're comparing Jones and Greene in the playoffs, that is hardly a fair comparison being that one RB was on the field for 737 snaps of the year with 340 touches and the workhorse for the team versus a RB who only had 253 snaps and 110 touches. Greene was much more healthy and rested than a worn out Thomas Jones

 

[Sleeping King]

Saw Bloom tweet that Charles is NOT a longterm workhorse and KC knows it.

If they ask Charles to run the ball 300 times a year, they'll use him up by 2012. its best for his long term fantasy value that they limit him to 15-18 carries a game.

Then by your logic Chris Johnson should be used up by 2011?

 

[Kleck]

Is giving Charles 15-18 carries a game really limiting him? 240-288 carries plus about 40-50 catches is plenty of touches for Charles to be a decent #1/#2 fantasy RB.

There hasn't been many RBs in the NFL these past few seasons that have averaged 20 or more carries a game.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Saw Bloom tweet that Charles is NOT a longterm workhorse and KC knows it.

If they ask Charles to run the ball 300 times a year, they'll use him up by 2012. its best for his long term fantasy value that they limit him to 15-18 carries a game.

Then by your logic Chris Johnson should be used up by 2011?

Chris Johnson cannot continue the pace he was on this past season, that is a fact jack.

 

[Kleck]

Saw Bloom tweet that Charles is NOT a longterm workhorse and KC knows it.

If they ask Charles to run the ball 300 times a year, they'll use him up by 2012. its best for his long term fantasy value that they limit him to 15-18 carries a game.

Then by your logic Chris Johnson should be used up by 2011?

Chris Johnson cannot continue the pace he was on this past season, that is a fact jack.

I'd be very surprised if Chris Johnson got close to 358 carries this year. In the past 10 years, only 2 RBs were able to achieve 350+ carries in back-to-back seasons. Shaun Alexander (2004/2005) & Ricky Williams (2002/2003). What's kind of interesting is that both times they had more carries in the 2nd season.

 

[Banger]

Saw Bloom tweet that Charles is NOT a longterm workhorse and KC knows it.

If they ask Charles to run the ball 300 times a year, they'll use him up by 2012. its best for his long term fantasy value that they limit him to 15-18 carries a game.

Then by your logic Chris Johnson should be used up by 2011?

Chris Johnson cannot continue the pace he was on this past season, that is a fact jack.

you mean he can't almost breaking the rushing record each year? That's not really surprising but he's a top 2-3 player if healthy.

 

[Otis]

####.

 

[Black&Gold]

Again, here with KC as in CHI. Everyone's calling for the end of a young star RB when the team brings in an over 30 RB. Why would teams bench a young star RB for these old has beens? Every team runs 2-3 RBs anymore. I don't get the worry.

 

[zamboni]

I don't think Charles owners should jump off the bridge yet.Here is what ownership said just a few weeks ago:

Chiefs owner Clark Hunt indicated that the team no longer has doubts about Jamaal Charles' ability to handle a full load of carries.Clark believes Charles, similar in size to Chris Johnson, "plays like a big player." He also praised Charles' "heart" and his ability to "carry a load that we didn't expect he'd be able to carry." The Chiefs would be wise to seek a bigger back as their No. 2, but that says more about their backups. Charles should garner first-round fantasy consideration as the team's featured back. Feb. 9 - 4:42 pm etSource: arrowheadpride.com

I think it's clear that the team wants Charles to be their feature back, but they don't want to wear him out. Either way through FA or the draft, they need to get him some help to keep his touches at a reasonable level - and it seems like they don't view Kolby Smith as sufficent enough.

 

[TS Garp]

I don't think Charles owners should jump off the bridge yet.Here is what ownership said just a few weeks ago:

Chiefs owner Clark Hunt indicated that the team no longer has doubts about Jamaal Charles' ability to handle a full load of carries.Clark believes Charles, similar in size to Chris Johnson, "plays like a big player." He also praised Charles' "heart" and his ability to "carry a load that we didn't expect he'd be able to carry." The Chiefs would be wise to seek a bigger back as their No. 2, but that says more about their backups. Charles should garner first-round fantasy consideration as the team's featured back. Feb. 9 - 4:42 pm etSource: arrowheadpride.com

I think it's clear that the team wants Charles to be their feature back, but they don't want to wear him out. Either way through FA or the draft, they need to get him some help to keep his touches at a reasonable level - and it seems like they don't view Kolby Smith as sufficent enough.

Not so sure. I just don't buy the fact that they're looking at bringing in a guy like Thomas Jones to be strictly a backup while Charles handles a full load. If they were just looking at a big back to spell Charles with 10-12 carries a game, I think they'd be talking about LT or even a trade for Lendale White. And maybe that's what they'll end up doing, after all. But if Jones lands there, I think it will be much more of a RBBC.

 

[Sweet Love]

Cheifs have no oline. Jones would be shell shocked to run behind that line after leaving the Jets.

I agree. Not taking anything away from the Jets back, but there are a lot of guys who would have posted better numbers on the Jets versus their current teams do to that line and Ryan's commitment to the run. I am not sure if they called, but if I were Jones, I would be eyeballing STL. The line is a "tick" better and with S-Jax beating up the Defenses, he would have an easier time when he got out there.

 

[TS Garp]

Cheifs have no oline. Jones would be shell shocked to run behind that line after leaving the Jets.

I agree. Not taking anything away from the Jets back, but there are a lot of guys who would have posted better numbers on the Jets versus their current teams do to that line and Ryan's commitment to the run. I am not sure if they called, but if I were Jones, I would be eyeballing STL. The line is a "tick" better and with S-Jax beating up the Defenses, he would have an easier time when he got out there.

I hear you, but I don't think RB is on the top of the Rams' very long list of needs.

 

[menobrown]

I don't think Charles owners should jump off the bridge yet.Here is what ownership said just a few weeks ago:

Chiefs owner Clark Hunt indicated that the team no longer has doubts about Jamaal Charles' ability to handle a full load of carries.Clark believes Charles, similar in size to Chris Johnson, "plays like a big player." He also praised Charles' "heart" and his ability to "carry a load that we didn't expect he'd be able to carry." The Chiefs would be wise to seek a bigger back as their No. 2, but that says more about their backups. Charles should garner first-round fantasy consideration as the team's featured back. Feb. 9 - 4:42 pm etSource: arrowheadpride.com

I think it's clear that the team wants Charles to be their feature back, but they don't want to wear him out. Either way through FA or the draft, they need to get him some help to keep his touches at a reasonable level - and it seems like they don't view Kolby Smith as sufficent enough.

Not so sure. I just don't buy the fact that they're looking at bringing in a guy like Thomas Jones to be strictly a backup while Charles handles a full load. If they were just looking at a big back to spell Charles with 10-12 carries a game, I think they'd be talking about LT or even a trade for Lendale White. And maybe that's what they'll end up doing, after all. But if Jones lands there, I think it will be much more of a RBBC.

I'm afraid I agree with this last comment. Keeping in mind Haley never trusted Charles last year until he was basically his last option. Someone posted in another thread comments Haley made about the how important this off season was for Charles to gain some weight to handle a bigger load. That may be worse news to Charles owners than TJ coming in to town. If he tries to bulk up I think it's going to rob of him of his best trait and he'll flop horribly next year similar to the way Slaton bulked up and lost what made him effective in the first place.

 

[LOCO]

Sell. Sell. Sell.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

IF KC signs Thomas Jones, and Charles' ADP drops in drafts next year --- I for one will be ecstatic. The cheaper I can get Jamaal Charles the better. I'd love for RBBC fears to drop JC to, what, the 4th round maybe?? I was having a tough time getting on board with drafting him in the top half of the 1st round, but I'll definitely buy his upside in the late 3rd, early 4th...

 

[Liquid Tension]

Cheifs have no oline. Jones would be shell shocked to run behind that line after leaving the Jets.

I agree. Not taking anything away from the Jets back, but there are a lot of guys who would have posted better numbers on the Jets versus their current teams do to that line and Ryan's commitment to the run. I am not sure if they called, but if I were Jones, I would be eyeballing STL. The line is a "tick" better and with S-Jax beating up the Defenses, he would have an easier time when he got out there.

The Jet OL was the best in football over the past 2 years (and injury free). TJ was awful the year before when they had a poor line. TJ is a below average starting NFL back and even though he had the yards and TD's over the past 2 years he was still the worst YPC guy on the Jets BOTH years including their FB. The Jet OL consistently blew open holes and Green showed what any RB could doIf he goes to a team with an average or worse line he will show very little as he simply is not all that good and he has little home run ability.

 

[Ariakis]

I can't imagine he doesn't get 15 touches per game worst case. If that's what keeps him healthy then we're still looking at more than 1200 total yards with the explosion to have huge days. He's not an early first rounder but late 1st or 2nd he'd be hard to pass on and if he somehow falls further that's gold.

 

[jurb26]

I don't think Charles owners should jump off the bridge yet.Here is what ownership said just a few weeks ago:

Chiefs owner Clark Hunt indicated that the team no longer has doubts about Jamaal Charles' ability to handle a full load of carries.Clark believes Charles, similar in size to Chris Johnson, "plays like a big player." He also praised Charles' "heart" and his ability to "carry a load that we didn't expect he'd be able to carry." The Chiefs would be wise to seek a bigger back as their No. 2, but that says more about their backups. Charles should garner first-round fantasy consideration as the team's featured back. Feb. 9 - 4:42 pm etSource: arrowheadpride.com

I think it's clear that the team wants Charles to be their feature back, but they don't want to wear him out. Either way through FA or the draft, they need to get him some help to keep his touches at a reasonable level - and it seems like they don't view Kolby Smith as sufficent enough.

Not so sure. I just don't buy the fact that they're looking at bringing in a guy like Thomas Jones to be strictly a backup while Charles handles a full load. If they were just looking at a big back to spell Charles with 10-12 carries a game, I think they'd be talking about LT or even a trade for Lendale White. And maybe that's what they'll end up doing, after all. But if Jones lands there, I think it will be much more of a RBBC.

I'm afraid I agree with this last comment. Keeping in mind Haley never trusted Charles last year until he was basically his last option. Someone posted in another thread comments Haley made about the how important this off season was for Charles to gain some weight to handle a bigger load. That may be worse news to Charles owners than TJ coming in to town. If he tries to bulk up I think it's going to rob of him of his best trait and he'll flop horribly next year similar to the way Slaton bulked up and lost what made him effective in the first place.

What exactly makes Jones so much more of a threat than LT or White? These all seem like comparable players to me. How old is Jones now?I just don't see this as all that big of a deal. As it says above, KC was looking to bring in help at RB. Charles will still be the focal point of the offense, they just want to make sure he can stay healthy and in case he goes down they have a good a replacement as possible.

 

[TS Garp]

I don't think Charles owners should jump off the bridge yet.Here is what ownership said just a few weeks ago:

Chiefs owner Clark Hunt indicated that the team no longer has doubts about Jamaal Charles' ability to handle a full load of carries.Clark believes Charles, similar in size to Chris Johnson, "plays like a big player." He also praised Charles' "heart" and his ability to "carry a load that we didn't expect he'd be able to carry." The Chiefs would be wise to seek a bigger back as their No. 2, but that says more about their backups. Charles should garner first-round fantasy consideration as the team's featured back. Feb. 9 - 4:42 pm etSource: arrowheadpride.com

I think it's clear that the team wants Charles to be their feature back, but they don't want to wear him out. Either way through FA or the draft, they need to get him some help to keep his touches at a reasonable level - and it seems like they don't view Kolby Smith as sufficent enough.

Not so sure. I just don't buy the fact that they're looking at bringing in a guy like Thomas Jones to be strictly a backup while Charles handles a full load. If they were just looking at a big back to spell Charles with 10-12 carries a game, I think they'd be talking about LT or even a trade for Lendale White. And maybe that's what they'll end up doing, after all. But if Jones lands there, I think it will be much more of a RBBC.

I'm afraid I agree with this last comment. Keeping in mind Haley never trusted Charles last year until he was basically his last option. Someone posted in another thread comments Haley made about the how important this off season was for Charles to gain some weight to handle a bigger load. That may be worse news to Charles owners than TJ coming in to town. If he tries to bulk up I think it's going to rob of him of his best trait and he'll flop horribly next year similar to the way Slaton bulked up and lost what made him effective in the first place.

What exactly makes Jones so much more of a threat than LT or White? These all seem like comparable players to me. How old is Jones now?I just don't see this as all that big of a deal. As it says above, KC was looking to bring in help at RB. Charles will still be the focal point of the offense, they just want to make sure he can stay healthy and in case he goes down they have a good a replacement as possible.

Because LT's clearly in decline and because Lendale is, well, Lendale. I don't think anyone believe he's suited for a big workload. Jones is coming off perhaps the best season of his career, and, whether you agree or disagree, the numbers indicate that he's not in decline and if a team pays him what he's going to command, especially a team with as many needs as the Chiefs, I just can't imagine that they're going to do so to make him a backup and give him 8-10 carries a game. Signing LT or Lendale and signing Jones indicate very different things in my mind.

 

[phthalatemagic]

 

[eefflrat]

any news on this? It's been rumored for a couple of days, and is real quiet today.

 

[TS Garp]

any news on this? It's been rumored for a couple of days, and is real quiet today.

Agree that it's quiet. I did find this -- Charles is saying the right things:http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/6/136...ould-approve-if

 

[jurb26]

Because LT's clearly in decline and because Lendale is, well, Lendale. I don't think anyone believe he's suited for a big workload. Jones is coming off perhaps the best season of his career, and, whether you agree or disagree, the numbers indicate that he's not in decline and if a team pays him what he's going to command, especially a team with as many needs as the Chiefs, I just can't imagine that they're going to do so to make him a backup and give him 8-10 carries a game. Signing LT or Lendale and signing Jones indicate very different things in my mind.

If Jones is so good, then why is KC the only team we have heard has any interest in him to date?

 

[zamboni]

Because LT's clearly in decline and because Lendale is, well, Lendale. I don't think anyone believe he's suited for a big workload. Jones is coming off perhaps the best season of his career, and, whether you agree or disagree, the numbers indicate that he's not in decline and if a team pays him what he's going to command, especially a team with as many needs as the Chiefs, I just can't imagine that they're going to do so to make him a backup and give him 8-10 carries a game. Signing LT or Lendale and signing Jones indicate very different things in my mind.

If Jones is so good, then why is KC the only team we have heard has any interest in him to date?

Fair point. I guess he could be looking for a lot of money, and that is scaring teams off, or perhaps GMs saw a guy in the playoffs that looked like he was about to hit the proverbial RB wall.Someone will sign him, but it may be for a lot less than what he is looking for.

 

[Scooby1974]

I think we've been over this about 1.6 million times but I'll bring it up again. Thomas Jones had an INJURED leg at the end of the season, it wasn't simply that he was tired. I don't recall when or where the injury happened however.

KC would be wise to sign Jones...if he isn't asking for a truckload of money. The amount he's looking for is my best guess as to why he isn't signed already. He still has a bunch in the tank by the looks of things, 85% of last year he was a top RB in a run first offense (granted he had a strong line in front of him too).

 

[zamboni]

I think we've been over this about 1.6 million times but I'll bring it up again. Thomas Jones had an INJURED leg at the end of the season, it wasn't simply that he was tired. I don't recall when or where the injury happened however. KC would be wise to sign Jones...if he isn't asking for a truckload of money. The amount he's looking for is my best guess as to why he isn't signed already. He still has a bunch in the tank by the looks of things, 85% of last year he was a top RB in a run first offense (granted he had a strong line in front of him too).

Jones may have been hurting, but I doubt you will find much argument among Jets homers that he looked somewhat worn down by the end of the year. That is not to say that he's done by any stretch, but I think you will see the effects next year whether he's back with the Jets or somewhere else.

 

[Scooby1974]

I think we've been over this about 1.6 million times but I'll bring it up again. Thomas Jones had an INJURED leg at the end of the season, it wasn't simply that he was tired. I don't recall when or where the injury happened however. KC would be wise to sign Jones...if he isn't asking for a truckload of money. The amount he's looking for is my best guess as to why he isn't signed already. He still has a bunch in the tank by the looks of things, 85% of last year he was a top RB in a run first offense (granted he had a strong line in front of him too).

Jones may have been hurting, but I doubt you will find much argument among Jets homers that he looked somewhat worn down by the end of the year. That is not to say that he's done by any stretch, but I think you will see the effects next year whether he's back with the Jets or somewhere else.

Agreed he was worn down, he carried the ball far more than he should have in order to keep him "fresh". The injury to Leon and Greene's fumble-itis and rookie status (inexperience/not knowing the offense/learning to block/etc) definitely handed him a heavier load than he should have had to bear. Couple these factors with the leg injury and you see why and how TJones was slowing down---anyone would have---let alone a 30 year old. If he stays in NY with the Jets we'll see how he comes back. If he goes to SD or to another team (especially one with a weak line) it will be difficult to tell whether he has really lost a step however.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I think this is a perfect fit for both KC and Jones.....

Cassel

Charles

Jones

Bowe

Chambers

5th pick take an O lineman

WR D. Thomas in the second round (eventually replace Chambers)

 

[greenf7cat]

Jones landed in KC yesterday and is still there today....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/9/136...-in-kansas-city

 

[Gopher State]

Jones landed in KC yesterday and is still there today....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/9/136...-in-kansas-city

looking good to get this deal done Thoughts on Jones numbers in K C

I would guess 1200 rush, 220 rec, 10 tds

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Jones landed in KC yesterday and is still there today....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/9/136...-in-kansas-city

looking good to get this deal done Thoughts on Jones numbers in K C

I would guess 1200 rush, 220 rec, 10 tds

I'd lower those numbers a little. I can't see Jamal Charles not getting at least 50% of the carries.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Jones landed in KC yesterday and is still there today....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/9/136...-in-kansas-city

looking good to get this deal done Thoughts on Jones numbers in K C

I would guess 1200 rush, 220 rec, 10 tds

Wow, that's optimistic.

900 rush

8 TDs

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Jones landed in KC yesterday and is still there today....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/9/136...-in-kansas-city

looking good to get this deal done Thoughts on Jones numbers in K C

I would guess 1200 rush, 220 rec, 10 tds

No chance. Not behind that OL and sharing carries with Charles.

 

[cobalt_27]

Jones landed in KC yesterday and is still there today....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/9/136...-in-kansas-city

looking good to get this deal done Thoughts on Jones numbers in K C

I would guess 1200 rush, 220 rec, 10 tds

I laughed.

 

[Birdie048]

signed...

Chiefs signed RB Thomas Jones to a two-year, $5 million contract.

Jones' contract is reasonable, with $3 million this year, $2 million next year and another $500,000 incentives. He's s expected to receive 8-12 touches per game behind unquestioned starter Jamaal Charles, and will likely be used in a short-yardage role similar to the LenDale White-Chris Johnson situation in 2008. For fantasy purposes, Kansas City was a worst-case scenario. Jones will be a low-upside, late-round flier in standard scoring leagues, while Charles has likely lost quite a bit of scoring potential.

 

[jurb26]

I think we've been over this about 1.6 million times but I'll bring it up again. Thomas Jones had an INJURED leg at the end of the season, it wasn't simply that he was tired. I don't recall when or where the injury happened however. KC would be wise to sign Jones...if he isn't asking for a truckload of money. The amount he's looking for is my best guess as to why he isn't signed already. He still has a bunch in the tank by the looks of things, 85% of last year he was a top RB in a run first offense (granted he had a strong line in front of him too).

That's all well and good. I don't think anyone is saying that Jones is done or incapable of contributing. At least I'm certainly not saying that. But the guy is going to be 32 before the season starts, he's had a pretty hefty workload the last few years and Charles will still be the focal point of the offense. I just don't see this signing as all that big a deal. Jones should be an ideal guy to step in and provide Charles the necessary breaks to keep him fresh. It seems like a nice deal KC signed him for.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Cheifs have no oline. Jones would be shell shocked to run behind that line after leaving the Jets.

I agree. Not taking anything away from the Jets back, but there are a lot of guys who would have posted better numbers on the Jets versus their current teams do to that line and Ryan's commitment to the run. I am not sure if they called, but if I were Jones, I would be eyeballing STL. The line is a "tick" better and with S-Jax beating up the Defenses, he would have an easier time when he got out there.

The Jet OL was the best in football over the past 2 years (and injury free). TJ was awful the year before when they had a poor line. TJ is a below average starting NFL back and even though he had the yards and TD's over the past 2 years he was still the worst YPC guy on the Jets BOTH years including their FB. The Jet OL consistently blew open holes and Green showed what any RB could doIf he goes to a team with an average or worse line he will show very little as he simply is not all that good and he has little home run ability.

What he said.everyone who watches the true talent of the player could see he simply is not that good...he got weak backup money

 

[corpcow]

Saw Bloom tweet that Charles is NOT a longterm workhorse and KC knows it.

If they ask Charles to run the ball 300 times a year, they'll use him up by 2012. its best for his long term fantasy value that they limit him to 15-18 carries a game.

Then by your logic Chris Johnson should be used up by 2011?

Only if you assume Chris Johnson == Jamaal Charles... I would argue they are far from equal.