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Those damn pitbulls (1 Viewer)
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Dr Oadi
Footballguy
pit bulls are scary.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Niles Standish
Footballguy
More than 50,000 people die having sex with corpses every year? Wow... That's hard to believe. Are they suffocating in tombs?
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Dude, banging a corpse is not nearly as easy as The Walking Dead would have you believe.
That sh#t is risky.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
It's not so much the pitbulls, but the dip####s that own them that are the problem.
rockaction
Footballguy
Pitbulls are sweet puppies, in my experience. Raise them to attack, and any dog will do it.
NutterButter
Footballguy
An unaltered male and an unaltered female living in a small apartment. Brilliant.
Lutherman2112
Footballguy
I love pit bulls...especially in my gun site.
interesting, so does pittbull attacks fall into the Accident category? And isn't most of this list classified as natural causes and unavoidable?
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Pots
Footballguy
Kind of illustrates the point of bad owners leads to bad dogs.Neighbor is keeping a pitbull for their son who is in prison, gets out in 3-4 weeks. Their pitbull attacked my 3-yr old lab and tore off half of her ear this past week. $450 vet bill
ClownCausedChaos2
Footballguy
Don't you have a right to demand that they pay your vet bill?Neighbor is keeping a pitbull for their son who is in prison, gets out in 3-4 weeks. Their pitbull attacked my 3-yr old lab and tore off half of her ear this past week. $450 vet bill
Rove!
Footballguy
This bad owners meme is horse####. Just liek people, one can be raised in a nurturing environment and turn out bad. One can be stricken with any all kinds of brain abnormalities , chemical imbalances, Alzheimer etc. With all of the junk they put in dog food and food supply in general, these days, who knows....
In that eventuality, do i want a dog whose ### I could kick or one that's powerful, dangerous and has an evolutionary instinct to attack?
In that eventuality, do i want a dog whose ### I could kick or one that's powerful, dangerous and has an evolutionary instinct to attack?
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Not sure about "blaming" the owners - but they're certainly responsible.
If owner's started getting fined and imprisoned for pit bull attacks, we'd probably have far fewer of them.
If owner's started getting fined and imprisoned for pit bull attacks, we'd probably have far fewer of them.
NutterButter
Footballguy
Yup. The laws are ridiculous. Whether its the animal abuse laws or the laws governing personal responsibility when owning these dogs, the laws are far too lax. But hey, we only have a certain amount of prison space and we have to save a lot of it for the pot smokers.
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JoeSteeler
Footballguy
something like 90% of dog attacks involve male dogs that aren't neutered.
sublimeone
Footballguy
Euthanize all pit bulls and their owners.
The Captain
Footballguy
Great idea!!! And then we'll move on to euthanizing anonymous, uninformed, jump to conclusions, no talent a$$holes with ####### opinions!!!
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Perhaps, but the problem there is that pit bulls are capable of doing far more damage than just about any other dog, which is what makes them so potentially dangerous.rockaction said:
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
The wife offered, but the situation is just more delicate than just that. She certainly loves Scarlet (my lab) more than the dog they were forced to board, and they are dog people with one of their own that plays with my lab and her pup often. It is just this pitbull that is the problem. It actually drew blood on my lab a month ago, though not nearly as bad. The biggest issue is that this pitbull now has learned to settle disputes with violence, to the point of potential severe injury. I will just let it be known that if it happens again, I would like the dog put on a leash and I will take it up the mountain. Cannot have that threat next door.ClownCausedChaos2 said:Don't you have a right to demand that they pay your vet bill?Mad Cow said:Neighbor is keeping a pitbull for their son who is in prison, gets out in 3-4 weeks. Their pitbull attacked my 3-yr old lab and tore off half of her ear this past week. $450 vet bill
ClownCausedChaos2
Footballguy
Makes sense. I understand what you're saying.The wife offered, but the situation is just more delicate than just that. She certainly loves Scarlet (my lab) more than the dog they were forced to board, and they are dog people with one of their own that plays with my lab and her pup often. It is just this pitbull that is the problem. It actually drew blood on my lab a month ago, though not nearly as bad. The biggest issue is that this pitbull now has learned to settle disputes with violence, to the point of potential severe injury. I will just let it be known that if it happens again, I would like the dog put on a leash and I will take it up the mountain. Cannot have that threat next door.ClownCausedChaos2 said:Don't you have a right to demand that they pay your vet bill?Mad Cow said:Neighbor is keeping a pitbull for their son who is in prison, gets out in 3-4 weeks. Their pitbull attacked my 3-yr old lab and tore off half of her ear this past week. $450 vet bill
Parrothead
Footballguy
unfortunately, they usually end of as inner city crack dealer protection dogs or as fighters (see ##### Michael Vick).. shame
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
They can be great dogs.
Went to a pitbull adoption day here recently. That pitbull attack story has been all over the news, supposedly the child did nothing to antagonize the dog. Someone told me the dog was full of roids and had cropped ears, but I don't know if that's correct.
Went to a pitbull adoption day here recently. That pitbull attack story has been all over the news, supposedly the child did nothing to antagonize the dog. Someone told me the dog was full of roids and had cropped ears, but I don't know if that's correct.
And you guys wonder why pit bulls have such a bad reputation for biting people....I would too if #### like this keeps happening to me....
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29215409/prognosis-is-good-for-dog-found-with-muzzle-taped-shut#.VW2ewdJVhBc
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29215409/prognosis-is-good-for-dog-found-with-muzzle-taped-shut#.VW2ewdJVhBc
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
All you need to do is read about bull baiting to know that all of these dogs have the potential to be deadly.
It is freaky to think that these dogs were bred to grab onto the snout of a bull that had pepper jammed into its face in order to enrage it. If they held on through the thrashing, they were a winner. Think about that for a moment before ever thinking that the breed doesn't at least play a major part in these attacks. Try blaming the owner when reading a story about a pit that locked on and couldn't be taken off of somebody even after rescuers were pounding and prying at it.
Hit it with a baseball bat? Ha, that is nothing compared to the force of an enraged bull smashing it into the ground. Perfectly safe to leave a toddler in the same room as one of these.
spreagle
Footballguy
Even if a pitbull appears friendly, everytime time a pitbull meets a person it instantly and instinctively calculates how to kill that person if it has to. You can lterally see the gears turning in their heads.
Wait, that's the concealed carry holders I'm thinking about. Nevermind.
Wait, that's the concealed carry holders I'm thinking about. Nevermind.
It's so odd that you immediately focus on how deadly the dog can be in your first sentence instead of how abused this breed has been for decades now.
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
That's true. I often want to harm people because of all the times my Great grandfather was abused by the neighborhood boys.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
lombardi
Footballguy
You should just go post this at the top of every new thread today just to set everyone straight.
Horrible. You make absolutely no sense.
We are now all dumber for reading that. May God have mercy on your soul.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
As someone with no dog in this fight (see what I did there?), both sides sound ridiculous. Posting a graph indicating how many people die from various illnesses/accidents is supposed to have bearing on this subject?
lombardi
Footballguy
In 10 year period between '05 and '14 there were 326 deaths by dog attack, pit bulls were responsible for 62% of these.
I don't care if it's breeding or owners or whatever other nonsense you want to talk about but there are some almost 350 recognized dog brees and 1 of them is invovled in 62% of fatal attacks. That's a problem regardless of the cause.
Putting that aside, all dog instincts are from human selective breeding. Pointers point, herders herd, diggers dig, because we trained them for years and years to do it. Bull baiting, ratting, dog fighting.... for more than a millennia these dogs have been bred to finish fights. They were selectively bred to bite harder than any other dog and hold on. Regardless of how aggressive particular dog is or isn't, any dog can panic or be put into a frightened, biting situation but with a pit bull that has a MUCH higher potential to be lethal or at least life altering. These are just facts.
You want to say they're sweet if bred the "right way"? I say you're breeding them against their instincts and just like a herding dog you can help with that by training but sometimes it's just going to come out and in some dogs it's a lot stronger of an instinct than in others and there isn't anything you can do.
I don't care if it's breeding or owners or whatever other nonsense you want to talk about but there are some almost 350 recognized dog brees and 1 of them is invovled in 62% of fatal attacks. That's a problem regardless of the cause.
Putting that aside, all dog instincts are from human selective breeding. Pointers point, herders herd, diggers dig, because we trained them for years and years to do it. Bull baiting, ratting, dog fighting.... for more than a millennia these dogs have been bred to finish fights. They were selectively bred to bite harder than any other dog and hold on. Regardless of how aggressive particular dog is or isn't, any dog can panic or be put into a frightened, biting situation but with a pit bull that has a MUCH higher potential to be lethal or at least life altering. These are just facts.
You want to say they're sweet if bred the "right way"? I say you're breeding them against their instincts and just like a herding dog you can help with that by training but sometimes it's just going to come out and in some dogs it's a lot stronger of an instinct than in others and there isn't anything you can do.
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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I would like to see Pit advocates claim they have a 2nd amendment right to own these dogs. Oh the fun we could have.
FUBAR
Footballguy
There's a risk with all dogs. The few pit bulls I know are well behaved and have never attacked a person or dog. In fact their breeding makes then more resilient when young kids do stupid things like poking the dog in the nose. (Not my kids but I've seen it).
They can be great dogs. But we won't get one because people assume the worst.
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
My post makes as much sense as yours inferring that decades of abuse have somehow made the dogs today worse. Or better.... hell I have no idea what your argument even was.
lombardi
Footballguy
The gun analogies are pretty bad. But if you want a divisive political comparison I'll give you one.
I'll edit a post above....
"There's a risk with all religionsdogs. The few muslims dogs I know are well behaved and have never attacked a person or dog."
That right there will start you up a nice argument.
Most muslims are not terrorists but almost all terrorists are muslims.
Most pit bulls are probably fine, but a huge majority of mauling deaths are from pit bulls.
Backers say it's not representative of the average pit bull (muslim) and it's only because of their training that they end up that way
Detractors say it's inate and at the core of their instincts (beliefs)
See, that's not hard. Let the screaming begin.
I'll edit a post above....
"There's a risk with all religions
That right there will start you up a nice argument.
Most muslims are not terrorists but almost all terrorists are muslims.
Most pit bulls are probably fine, but a huge majority of mauling deaths are from pit bulls.
Backers say it's not representative of the average pit bull (muslim) and it's only because of their training that they end up that way
Detractors say it's inate and at the core of their instincts (beliefs)
See, that's not hard. Let the screaming begin.
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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I think that would be pleasing to a percentage of Pit bull owners. Not all, of course as there is clearly a movement to try to rehabilitate the image of the breed.
Here's what I know, or what I think I know. Breeds that become the trendy style are always infused with poorly breed animals to meet the demand. Irresponsible breeding produces bad animals. This happened with doberman's, shepherds, rotties, chows, akitas, and pits, as well as with cocker spaniels and chihuahuas. When animals are poorly breed thy also tend to be poorly socialized as pups. Puppy Mills are not an environment wherein socialization happens. Now we have poorly breed, poorly socialized dogs that are trendy, so they often go to first time owners, by definition inexperienced folks, and of course since these folks are in it for the trend, often folks with wrong or foolish expectations. This is a recipe for disaster.
Now when the trend favors a more or less benign, or harmless dog, a cocker spaniel or a chihuahua serious injury or death is unlikely to occur from the toxic stew of circumstance. An angry Chihuahua may sink his needlelike teeth into my ankle, but the damage is limited, and the prospect of him reaching my throat, well maybe if I was sleeping on the floor.
Pits have the athleticism to do serious damage if they are bad dogs, damage few others can do, but not no others. Chows in particular where responsible for a disproportionate number of bites and serious injuries during their heyday, and to an extent so where rotties and dobbies. This is not a dynamic confined to the Pit breed, it is a social dynamic as well.
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Foosball God
Foos
You assume because they are in prison that they don't love their dog?Kind of illustrates the point of bad owners leads to bad dogs.Neighbor is keeping a pitbull for their son who is in prison, gets out in 3-4 weeks. Their pitbull attacked my 3-yr old lab and tore off half of her ear this past week. $450 vet bill
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
The good folks at Pitbulls and Parolees would take umbrage. I think their message is that both sub-species get a bad rap.You assume because they are in prison that they don't love their dog?Kind of illustrates the point of bad owners leads to bad dogs.Neighbor is keeping a pitbull for their son who is in prison, gets out in 3-4 weeks. Their pitbull attacked my 3-yr old lab and tore off half of her ear this past week. $450 vet bill
FUBAR
Footballguy
Should we scream about your false analogy or your false fact?
"...but almost all terrorists are muslims"
is simply not true.
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