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Thoughts on Brandon Marshall (1 Viewer)
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lod01
Footballguy
Marshall is always open even when someone is on him because he breaks towards the ball instead of letting it come to him.
The Captain
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
My thought is he's benched until he shows he's healthy and produces one healthy stat line.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
You've got balls, man. Benching him when the coach says they need to get him the ball more and he's healthy after the injury should have kept him out 4 weeks.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
How long has it been since his injury? At least 3 weeks, Maybe 4. I also doubt the coaches would want yup get the ball more to a guy who's injured.
Injury happened week 1, and was re-aggravated week 3. He missed every practice between week 1 and 4, but hasn't missed a practice since then. He was moving noticeably better week 5, the targets just kept going to Forte, possibly due to the game plan. Note they lost that game. Game plan for Atlanta is to get him targets according to the coach speak. I would trust it and start him.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Scored 3 TDs in week two when he was injured. If he's playing, I don't know how you bench now unless you're absolutely loaded for bear at WR(no pun intended).
Pretty much this, especially the bolded. I think the coaches saw something on film during the week that they wanted to exploit. Didn't lead to a win, and no reason to think the gameplan would absolutely be the same for Atlanta anyway.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This has been quite the dry spell.
What the heck is going on here?
What the heck is going on here?
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
I am expecting that to end this week.
I dont have any real evidence to sipport the validity of this...but it just seems like the week after stud players complain or erupt in the locker room, they have big weeks.
Maybe I am just grasping.
I dont have any real evidence to sipport the validity of this...but it just seems like the week after stud players complain or erupt in the locker room, they have big weeks.
Maybe I am just grasping.
Courtweeks87
Footballguy
Does he or Jeffery get put on Revis island this week?
MattFancy
Footballguy
I can't remember, does Revis play on one side of the field in NE or does he move around?
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Revis Island seems a little overrated to me. I am not looking at numbers, and maybe the stats will tell a different story, but from what I have seen this season, he does not look anything like he did in his Jets days. I've noticed him gettign beat a few times this season (which almost never used to happen), but specifically I saw Mike Wallace beat him repeatedly...and not get any help from Tannehill, so the stats sheet will not tell the full story. Despite Tannehill, he did beat him for a short TD that day. Had him beat for long ones 2 other times.
Long story short, Revis' presence will no longer make me contemplate benching a stud WR.
Long story short, Revis' presence will no longer make me contemplate benching a stud WR.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I wonder what Bears fans are thinking.
These are his yards receiving: 71, 48, 6, 19, 44, 113 (@ATL), 48.
I have not been catching any Bears games. I get the injury is mixed in there but this should not be happening. Is it game plan, Cutler not playing well or maybe Jeffery, Forte and Bennett getting the targets, what? I doubt the latter as Marshall has had 9-10 targets last two games.
These are his yards receiving: 71, 48, 6, 19, 44, 113 (@ATL), 48.
I have not been catching any Bears games. I get the injury is mixed in there but this should not be happening. Is it game plan, Cutler not playing well or maybe Jeffery, Forte and Bennett getting the targets, what? I doubt the latter as Marshall has had 9-10 targets last two games.
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Squintz82
Footballguy
Revis will get Marshall this week. Same way Revis got AJ Green a few weeks ago, however shut him down. Only points came on the very next play after Revis left the field. http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2014-10-06/darrelle-revis-aj-green-new-england-patriots-cincinnati-bengals-score-highlights-stats-numbers-matchup-winner
Revis isn't the corner he used to be, but he certainly can force Cutler to look at Jeffery, Bennett, and Forte this week. Also, keep in mind that Chicago is likely going to run all game against a depleted Pats defense, also to keep Cutler from making mistakes. Same way the Jets did.
http://nesn.com/2014/10/patriots-darrelle-revis-has-dominated-bears-brandon-marshall-in-the-past/
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Pearl Frumpkin
Footballguy
Bears homer here. The problem is a mixture of game plan and Cutler. When the Bears run the ball well the entire offense does well, especially Cutler and Marshall. When we abandon the run our offense is inconsistent and Cutler can go on tilt. Our O-line really isn't that good either so when teams know we are passing Cutler doesn't have the time to look downfield (he ends up throwing short to Forte instead hence Forte's receptions). So they key to helping out the passing game is running more.
I think that we will see a lot more running going forward. Both times our offense has sucked this year we have abandoned the run early. I think Trestman will see this and start calling a more balanced game. Plus with the weather changing and the bears Home heavy schedule, I can see this happening. This means more production for Marshall and all the Bears players.
MattFancy
Footballguy
I own both Forte and Marshall on the same team. It seems like everything is going through Forte this season. He leads the NFL in receptions. It's not like Jeffery has been totally dominating either. He's been better than Marshall, but it just seems like Cutler is checking down to Forte more often than not so far this season.
Agree. As someone playing against AJ Green, I was beyond pissed that the only play Green made that entire game was the play after Revis left the field due to injury.
Wallace was able to get consistent separation but that's really the only WR that has been able to do so this year. I would never bench Marshall (who else are you going to start?) but it's looking like a great week for Jeffrey, Bennett, and Forte.
I can't wait to see if Marshall melts down from getting zero looks if the Bears end up losing, even if the other guys have great games.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
irish eyes
Footballguy
Shaping up as one of the biggest busts of the year!
Avery
Footballguy
In my pretty standard PPR league I own him in, he was the 19th ranked WR going into this week making him a mid-range WR2. Not exactly what I hoped it get out of him, but not in the realm of "one of the biggest busts of the year".
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Pretty much living in pittsville right now.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
my current thoughts are:
finally a decent game since the SF game..
now he's hurt again...
CHI looks like a dumpster fire...
wanted a good game to up his trade value, but that vaporized...
started him tonight, and will likely roll w/ cooks the rest of the way.
finally a decent game since the SF game..
now he's hurt again...
CHI looks like a dumpster fire...
wanted a good game to up his trade value, but that vaporized...
started him tonight, and will likely roll w/ cooks the rest of the way.
on replay that ankle sprain didnt look that bad, hopefully its not another HAS and he probably doesnt miss game time
MattFancy
Footballguy
Marshall seems like a gamer to me. I think he's going to want to keep playing as long as he physically can. I don't really think the Bears gain anything but shutting him down.
zamboni
Footballguy
I agree he's a gamer, but they would gain by preventing him from any further longer term damage on the ankles.
MattFancy
Footballguy
I guess we'll see to what extent this ankle injury is. From Marshall, he said he'll be fine and plans on playing next week.
lod01
Footballguy
Marshall really impressed with the way he was not giving up when there as no chance to win. On at least 2 catches he could have simply stepped out of bounds but he not only tried to make moves, he bull rushed the defense when they surrounded him and he fought for extra yards with guys jumping on his back.
If that was a guy like TO out there, he would have totally given up by halftime. Maybe it was good that he blew off all that steam a couple weeks back but man, this team needs some wins to keep Marshall from losing it.
If that was a guy like TO out there, he would have totally given up by halftime. Maybe it was good that he blew off all that steam a couple weeks back but man, this team needs some wins to keep Marshall from losing it.
az_prof
Footballguy
I think Marshall has aspirations of being in the HOF--he has a long way to go, but it isn't inconceivable if he can play at current rate for another four years. He has had five years of over 100 receptions, will almost surely reach the 1,000 reception plateau, and is almost at the 10,000 yardage plateau.lod01 said:
He is strongly motivated to keep playing and producing.
mikel0254
Footballguy
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
And that they're ready to activate that rookie WR who broke his collarbone at the beginning oh the year.
MattFancy
Footballguy
Rotoworld:
Brandon Marshall (ankle) returned to Bears practice Thursday, getting in a limited session.
It puts Marshall on track to suit up for Sunday's game against the Vikings. Ideally, he'd get in a "full" session on Friday, but that's probably not going to happen. He'll likely be listed as "limited, questionable." At less than 100 percent against the Vikings' solid pass defense, Marshall is shaping up as more of a WR2 than WR1 for Week 11.
zamboni
Footballguy
MattFancy
Footballguy
Agreed. Monitoring him closely this week. Have Cooks, Matthews and Andre Johnson ready in case it sounds like he isn't going to be 100%. Although, he wasn't 100% against the 49ers in Week 2 and put up 3 TDs. He's just one of those guys that if he starts, you almost have to play him.
