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Thursday Night Blowouts - Is this a trend? (1 Viewer)

Raiderfan32904

Raiderfan32904

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Seattle, Baltimore, Atlanta, and New York all have won blowouts on Thursday Night Football. 4 games now in a row.

The theory used to be that Thursday Night Games were lower scoring for fantasy purposes across the board. Now it appears, the losing team is tapping out in the second half. Interesting...

Not sure how this might affect fantasy decisions, except maybe going all in on a favored team, but think it’s worth discussion.

 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
Except this week the home team got smoked.
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Which is amazing. This is the same team that recorded 10 sacks couple weeks ago against the Jags. Guess that doesn't speak too kindly of Jacksonville. And the Giants weren't coming in like world beaters or anything. This one looked like a shootout on paper, but Washington tapped out of this early. I wonder if the short week is too much for some teams to overcome. They get down and just can't get up off the mat. Tired and spent. That vicious hit to Niles Paul seemed to deflate them. Weren't the same after that.

 
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I think you can throw the first game out because it wasn't a short week. I just think Seattle is that much better than Green Bay. The rest I think is a product of the losing teams, being less experienced or a younger team that isn't used to prepping for a short week. The exception is Steelers and I am not sure what happened there, I think they just maybe really inconsistent this year, they looked damn good against Carolina.

Redskins have a young quarterback that is starting and he probably isn't used to short weeks.

Bucs have a young team other than their quarterback that night, but he is on a new team with a new coach trying to prep for a short week.

 
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It's hard to call it a trend, since we can really only look at three games right now. While the GB-SEA game was on a Thursday Night, with it being the first game of the season it has none of the "traps" of what we consider as a Thursday Night game.

The Pitt-Balt game was a little closer than the final score indicated as well.

As a Matt Ryan, Julio Jones and Larry Donnell owner I'm loving the Thursday Night scheduled thus far, but I'm not sure we can read that much into it.

 
Raiderfan32904 said:
I used to afraid of starting anyone on TNF. Now it looks like gold. Just need to choose the right side.
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I just took a look at the box scores for the TNF games, not seeing anything too exciting for fantasy. One or two guys went off each game, but several others stunk (including some on the winning side)- doesn't seem to be much different than games played on Sun/Mon.

 
humpback said:
Raiderfan32904 said:
I used to afraid of starting anyone on TNF. Now it looks like gold. Just need to choose the right side.
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I just took a look at the box scores for the TNF games, not seeing anything too exciting for fantasy. One or two guys went off each game, but several others stunk (including some on the winning side)- doesn't seem to be much different than games played on Sun/Mon.
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Yeah, but the one or two guys that went off...man did they go off. I guess I'm a little biased being a Julio/Donnell owner.

 
I kind of half expected last night to happen the way it did. Not to that extent, but...I don't think WAS is a good team or a particularly well coached team and they were coming off of a big, emotionally expensive, amped up divisional loss on Sunday and the Giants just made the HOU defense look average at best. WAS's only win is at home vs JAX...they are not a particularly good team.

 
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Chapelboy said:
I hope it makes the NFL rethink playing TNF, but of course it won't. The almighty dollah...
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I liked it, and it seemed more special, when we had "occasional" Thursday night games. I find myself secretly hoping none of my players are going on TNF. $$$ will surely prevent them from going away permanently.

 
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The issue is that coming into the game it's not always clear which team will get blown out. Given this, it's difficult to exploit any tendency.

Sure, in hindsight you can point to certain things, but if I told you Thursday morning that one of the QBs was going to throw 4 picks, would you have been able to guess it would be Cousins and not Eli? Remember that the Redskins were favored in this game.

Personally I always hold my breath when any of my players go no Thursday night. Hate TNF, even though I've benefited the last two games (Donnell + Ryan).

 
I've heard the following about Thursday night games:

1. Offense is down

2. Home teams have the advantages

3. Blowouts are more frequent

All of these theories will continue to fall apart as the sample size continues to increase. It's just another football game. These guys don't have to "re-learn" how to play football.

The real reason Thursday night games seem worse is because the NFL dictates that every team gets a night game, and the bad teams usually get the Thursday night slot.

 
The guys are supposed to be professionals getting paid lots of money. They know the schedule beforehand. It's inexcusable for the scores to be so lopsided, it's ridiculous.

 
Raiderfan32904 said:
humpback said:
Raiderfan32904 said:
I used to afraid of starting anyone on TNF. Now it looks like gold. Just need to choose the right side.
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I just took a look at the box scores for the TNF games, not seeing anything too exciting for fantasy. One or two guys went off each game, but several others stunk (including some on the winning side)- doesn't seem to be much different than games played on Sun/Mon.
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Yeah, but the one or two guys that went off...man did they go off. I guess I'm a little biased being a Julio/Donnell owner.
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But was that because it was TNF, or was it because Julio is a freak who was playing a home game against a terrible team with no Roddy, and NY found a match up they exploited with Donnell? Still not seeing much of a reason to get giddy over TNF games- some guys have done great, but more guys haven't, just like every other day IMO.

 
Chapelboy said:
I hope it makes the NFL rethink playing TNF, but of course it won't. The almighty dollah...
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And they'll keep making those dollah's because idiots like me are watching all the way to the end to see what kind of fantasy points I'll get in garbage time.

 
shader said:
The real reason Thursday night games seem worse is because the NFL dictates that every team gets a night game, and the bad teams usually get the Thursday night slot.
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That was under the old schedule. New schedule, with CBS involved, every team will get a Thursday night game, and it will mostly be intra-division games, under the theory that teams will need less time to prep for opponents they are used to playing.


 
Raiderfan32904 said:
SeniorVBDStudent said:
Except this week the home team got smoked.
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Which is amazing. This is the same team that recorded 10 sacks couple weeks ago against the Jags. Guess that doesn't speak too kindly of Jacksonville. And the Giants weren't coming in like world beaters or anything. This one looked like a shootout on paper, but Washington tapped out of this early. I wonder if the short week is too much for some teams to overcome. They get down and just can't get up off the mat. Tired and spent. That vicious hit to Niles Paul seemed to deflate them. Weren't the same after that.
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That's on Jacksonville and not on Washington. Washington had 0 sacks in the other 2 games played. They got 1 on the Giants so they are now at 11.

 
Teams seem to just quit on Thursday night when they get down early. No energy to fight through it.

 
Every Thursday game thus far this season has been unwatchable second half. I have to wonder what impact, if any, this is having on the ratings.

 
General Tso said:
Teams seem to just quit on Thursday night when they get down early. No energy to fight through it.
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My thoughts precisely.

There's a reason they only play one game a week. Both mind and body need a break. But supposedly the players love it because they get to have Friday through Sunday off after the game. I think it's possibly the worst change the NFL has made in the past ten years. And that's saying something with all the other crap that's been forced on us as fans.

 
Just a circumstance blowout. Ponder is garbage. This would have been a blowout on Sunday, too.

One other game was TB playing a backup QB after losing 4-5 defensive starters.

Another game was WAS playing with a backup QB.

It's not Thursday, just circumstances.

 
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32 Counter Pass said:
Every Thursday game thus far this season has been unwatchable second half. I have to wonder what impact, if any, this is having on the ratings.
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I turned the channel at half time. Can only hope the ratings suffer enough or Goodell realizes they're putting an embarrassing product on the field every Thursday and stop this nonsense.

 
Phenomena said:
Just a circumstance blowout. Ponder is garbage. This would have been a blowout on Sunday, too.

One other game was TB playing a backup QB after losing 4-5 defensive starters.

Another game was WAS playing with a backup QB.

It's not Thursday, just circumstances.
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It's probably a combination of the two. This is the third time they've had to plan around a qb change, and they had all of 2 days to really get Ponder ready to go. A relatively rusty QB with little timing with the first team, who stinks to begin with, and a team that was down big early probably giving up.

I really think teams are tending to roll over a lot easier on Thursdays than they would on Sundays.

 
PFT thinks its a trend:

Aaron Rodgers passed for 156 yards and three touchdowns, Eddie Lacy rushed for two more scores and the Green Bay Packers cruised to an easy 42-10 victory over the Minnesota Vikings on Thursday night.

The game continued a trend this season of Thursday night games being complete duds. In five games this year, no Thursday night contest has been decided by fewer than 20 points.

The five results so far this year: Seattle 36-16 over Green Bay, Baltimore 26-6 over Pittsburgh, Atlanta 56-14 over Tampa Bay, New York Giants 45-14 over Washington and Green Bay 42-10 over Minnesota. Washington is the only home team not to be victorious in those five games.

 
I have a theory besides the road team theory - rookie coaches seem unprepared or unable to get their team ready in time for TNF. Often of course rookie HCs have taken over bad teams from the year before so maybe they're just bad teams to begin with, but still it seems pretty frequent.

 
The radio broadcast tonight, paraphrasing:

It is absolutely atrocious how bad the games on Thursday Night have been, atrocious!
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(Of course they would never say this on TV, but the NFL has a problem on their hands with these games, it's bad product).

 
They wont, but really hope they do put an end to weekly Thursday contests.

GB probably rolls this team whether it's Thursday or Sunday. Shame that the difference in gameday likely lead to having folks to witness this Ponder garbage.

 
If this game was Sunday, Bridgewater plays. I doubt the outcome changes, but at least there would be some interest.

 
I can't believe the players union hasn't raised a stink. These players are still recovering on Thursday. Look at the Vikings this week, Bridgewater probably stood a higher chance to go on Sunday/Monday. In any case it's bad football.

 
Terrible product that the NFL is putting out there on Thursday. Plus it ruins your Fantasy football Sunday when your players do bad because you know you're going to lose before Sunday even gets here.

 
Yeah. I don't think there has been a single good, competitive football game on Thursdays since it has become a thing. Good if you are a fan of the team getting the dominant win but I will never start anyone on a Thursday unless they are a stud with no other viable options.

It's a joke. My thoughts are if you hit it big with a non-stud on a Thursday game, you might as well have won the lottery for that week but I won't condemn a player if they have the worst game of the season in one of these games.

 
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Milkman said:
Terrible product that the NFL is putting out there on Thursday. Plus it ruins your Fantasy football Sunday when your players do bad because you know you're going to lose before Sunday even gets here.
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Never give up! I came back last week after starting Kirk Cousins on Thursday.

 
Not even watchable... I ended up watching sleepy hollow on fox.com by mid 2nd quarter. It has to be the worst second half ratings ever... Who watches that ?

 
Some teams had a bye week 4. Maybe two of THOSE teams should have played.

Super crazy idea i know. Lock me up.

While people can easily say Ponder is the reason for this one, others can say its because of the short week and very little prep for the #3 qb. That and Teddy probably plays sunday or monday.

 
Gargoylez said:
Not even watchable... I ended up watching sleepy hollow on fox.com by mid 2nd quarter. It has to be the worst second half ratings ever... Who watches that ?
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Who? Fantasy players. Which makes up basically everyone. Its sick. Nfl needs to thank god every day FF exists.

 
May have watched a handful of plays last night. Turned it off for good when it was 28-0. Playoff baseball is way more exiciting than a crappy TNF game.

NFL won't change anything until the ratings drop. Thought I read that so far, the TNF games on CBS are killing what they were last year on NFL Network. No chance they don't keep these going in the future.

 
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