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Tie Game.... (1 Viewer)
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
NO excuse for not using decimal scoring. Failing that, submit a "tie-breaker" bench player.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
We went to decimal scoring about 10 years ago. Yesterday we had our first tie ever.
Cantonese32
Footballguy
You must have a HOT sister!!We use total bench scoring as a tie-breaker.
Resident A
Footballguy
The NFL has ties for reg season, why shouldn't FF leagues have ties? I try to keep my league rules/policies as close to real football as possible.
Bench player tie-break is stupid. What if one team has a weak bench due to 3 guys on byes & some of his bench guys are handcuffs? Is that a reason he should lose, because some other team had a better guy that they didn't even use that week?
Bench player tie-break is stupid. What if one team has a weak bench due to 3 guys on byes & some of his bench guys are handcuffs? Is that a reason he should lose, because some other team had a better guy that they didn't even use that week?
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Wu-banger
Footballguy
must be something in the air this week.....
We had a tie ... both teams were putrid with 70 points.
We use bench scoring as the tie breaker.... Sproles needed 7 points to give his team the win..he got 6 , and kept the tie.
Our next tie breaker , which we never used, is having the starters score be redone using decimal scoring... one owner won with a .02 margin...painful
We had a tie ... both teams were putrid with 70 points.
We use bench scoring as the tie breaker.... Sproles needed 7 points to give his team the win..he got 6 , and kept the tie.
Our next tie breaker , which we never used, is having the starters score be redone using decimal scoring... one owner won with a .02 margin...painful
Wu-banger
Footballguy
Having owners keep a good bench full of active , healthy players makes for a better team and more competitve league....plus helps fund the transaction kitty by changing for moves.
In theory there are ties in the NFL but in practice the NFL tries to avoid them with having an overtime in which the first team who scores wins (not a timed overtime where both teams can score and have a tie again). Decimal scoring or having a designated tie breaker player is more like the NFL then imo as you are trying to avoid ties but in theory they can still happen. Agree that bench scoring deciding ties doesn't make a lot of sense.
tomarken
Footballguy
The other advantage of decimal is that you avoid the rounding factor of whole pts ... nothing is more unfair then rushing for 79 yds and having this as 7 pts vs someone who rushes for 80 and gets 8 pts, or if round up or down, 74 yds vs 75 or 76.
Wu-banger
Footballguy
give it a shot ...
Statler & Waldorf
Footballguy
I second that. I hate fractional points. Our league usually has about one tie a year, and I see nothing wrong with that. Throws a little wrench in the playoff race. Come playoff time, then we have tie breakers in place.
tomarken
Footballguy
I tried, but I can't do it. Bench scoring is just such a ridiculous tiebreaker I hardly know how to put it into words. You're punishing teams because their bench players are on bye, or because the drafted a handcuff to one of their starters? Where exactly is the sense in that?And then to go back to your starting lineups and use decimal scoring as your second tiebreaker?
Since I'm having so much trouble, maybe you can try to explain why this system isn't terrible?
NinerK
Footballguy
I get what you are saying, what's your league's tie breakers?
tomarken
Footballguy
We use decimal scoring, and no regular season tiebreakers. Note that I'm not saying ties are bad. I'm just saying that if you are going to use tiebreakers, bench scoring is a bad one. It is not at all indicative of a team's strength that week - those players are on the bench for a reason. Whether it's because they're on bye, because they're a handcuff to one of your starters, beacuse they're injured, because you expected them to underperform that week, etc., there's no way a game should be decided by players you didn't start.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
So when a player runs for a 1 yard gain, it should count on the stat sheet but not for your fantasy team?
Lehigh98
Footballguy
A few years ago I had back to back ties and ended up with 3 on the season.
No decimal scoring but yardage bonuses thta had scores range from 70's to high 160+.
There was actually a debate about how to use the ties in the standings and if I should make the playoffs or not.
One owner wanted to use win % like hockey(WTF?) but we ended up counting as half win, half loss.
No decimal scoring but yardage bonuses thta had scores range from 70's to high 160+.
There was actually a debate about how to use the ties in the standings and if I should make the playoffs or not.
One owner wanted to use win % like hockey(WTF?) but we ended up counting as half win, half loss.
Ice Cream Man
Footballguy
We had a tie in our league a few years ago even going to two decimal points!!http://football99.myfantasyleague.com/2004...L=82994&W=2
BaBastage
Footballguy
Sorry, but that's not the way that arguing works. You make your case against the other person's point of view, and then substantiate it with logic. Asking them to defend themselves without debating theirs first is, well, unfounded.That said, I really have no horse in the race, as long as some tiebreaker method is established.I tried, but I can't do it. Bench scoring is just such a ridiculous tiebreaker I hardly know how to put it into words. You're punishing teams because their bench players are on bye, or because the drafted a handcuff to one of their starters? Where exactly is the sense in that?
And then to go back to your starting lineups and use decimal scoring as your second tiebreaker?
Since I'm having so much trouble, maybe you can try to explain why this system isn't terrible?
But I don't subscribe to the "Punishing teams because their bench players are on bye". By that same logic, every team is "punished" because they have players on bye, whether or not the players are active or not.
Varmint
Footballguy
Our tie breakers....
1st...total yds from scrimmage for all starting position players....
2nd...individual yds from scrimmage....1)QB vs QB, 2)RB's vs. RB's 3) WR's vs. WR's
We've never gone past the first tie-breaker....but IF both teams had absolute identicle yardage stats from each starter....the final tie-breaker goes to the home team.
1st...total yds from scrimmage for all starting position players....
2nd...individual yds from scrimmage....1)QB vs QB, 2)RB's vs. RB's 3) WR's vs. WR's
We've never gone past the first tie-breaker....but IF both teams had absolute identicle yardage stats from each starter....the final tie-breaker goes to the home team.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
What is so wrong with a tie?Raider Nation said:
Wu-banger
Footballguy
If you are not going to bother giving a valid reason , I will not waste my time/I tried, but I can't do it. Bench scoring is just such a ridiculous tiebreaker I hardly know how to put it into words. You're punishing teams because their bench players are on bye, or because the drafted a handcuff to one of their starters? Where exactly is the sense in that?And then to go back to your starting lineups and use decimal scoring as your second tiebreaker?
Since I'm having so much trouble, maybe you can try to explain why this system isn't terrible?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Looks ugly on the standings page.
