Tier 3 Running Backs (1 Viewer)

[RalphMouth]

How would you rank them and why ?

Here's my attempt-

Chris Johnson- a threat to take it to the house every play but Shonn Greene will vulture TDs

Stevan Ridley - top goal line threat, not a 3rd down receiving threat- Vereen is a must hand-cuff

DeMarco Murray- no real 2nd stringer threatening to take away carries- he's one of only a few in

this tier who's a 3 down back BUT he's a major injury risk (peanut brittle)

Steven Jackson - goal line back on an explosive team - how much will Jacquizz take away carries -

Jackson's age is a major concern

Matt Forte - great in a PPR league - won't get goal line touches

Reggie Bush - see Matt Forte

Maurice Jones Drew- he's been a monster but that was two years ago - age, injuries and a lousy

team are big downfalls

Frank Gore - Main goal line back on a Super Bowl contender but age and Hunter/James will vulture

McFadden - His health is his problem. Stay on the field and he will shine but he's never done so

 

[Khy]

I'm not sure how these are "Tier 3 RBs"... at least not based on current ADP or Projections. All of these guys are pretty might low-high RB2s.

Forte: RB12... Jackson: RB11.... Johnson: RB13.... MJD: RB14... Ridley: RB15... Gore: RB16.... Bush: RB17

At current ADP they're all RB2s. Your Tier 3 RB staff is guys like Le'veon Bell, Eddie Lacy, Chris Ivory. Not these guys... these guys are more or less going to be most peoples RB2's this season.

 

[meyerj31]

I'm not sure how these are "Tier 3 RBs"... at least not based on current ADP or Projections. All of these guys are pretty might low-high RB2s.

Forte: RB12... Jackson: RB11.... Johnson: RB13.... MJD: RB14... Ridley: RB15... Gore: RB16.... Bush: RB17

At current ADP they're all RB2s. Your Tier 3 RB staff is guys like Le'veon Bell, Eddie Lacy, Chris Ivory. Not these guys... these guys are more or less going to be most peoples RB2's this season.

Tier 3 doesn't mean RB3.

Usually people group players in tiers... like AP is a tier by himself, the second tier could be Charles, Foster, Lynch, Rice, McCoy... Then the third tier is all the guys he just listed.

Instead of arguing semantics, you could just answer the question.

 

[zamboni]

Matt Forte - great in a PPR league - won't get goal line touches

I think the Michael Bush train sailed awhile ago. I think Forte will be on the field in most situations in the new offense.

 

[Khy]

I'm not sure how these are "Tier 3 RBs"... at least not based on current ADP or Projections. All of these guys are pretty might low-high RB2s.

Forte: RB12... Jackson: RB11.... Johnson: RB13.... MJD: RB14... Ridley: RB15... Gore: RB16.... Bush: RB17

At current ADP they're all RB2s. Your Tier 3 RB staff is guys like Le'veon Bell, Eddie Lacy, Chris Ivory. Not these guys... these guys are more or less going to be most peoples RB2's this season.

Tier 3 doesn't mean RB3.

Usually people group players in tiers... like AP is a tier by himself, the second tier could be Charles, Foster, Lynch, Rice, McCoy... Then the third tier is all the guys he just listed.

Instead of arguing semantics, you could just answer the question.

I'm more so pointing out that it makes it a misleading thread. I don't really care where people consider 'the tiers' you could have 50 tiers if you wanted to get specific enough and everyones opinion on it changes. Why not just say "2013: RB2 tiers" or something? That said fine I will answer the question as you suggest...

Matt Forte - PPR or non-PPR he's the safest bet for production among these guys. So I'd place him at the top of this list because of that, he's also probably on the best offense of these guys besides Jackson.

Steven Jackson - He's over that 30 hump and this league has proved time and time again RB's moving teams after 30 usually aren't successful. That said, I'd take him before any of the guys I have below him simply because of the amount of goal line carries he'll see. As well as the amount of touches.

Reggie Bush - I'm not as big a fan of his situation as others seem to be but that said Jahvid Best was always healthy in this spot on the Lions. He may only see 150 carries but should approach 70 receptions.

Chris Johnson - I actually like the prospects for him this year, I can see him being a lot more explosive after 'coming down to earth' last season. I think his head isn't as big now and he'll actually work for a living.

Stevan Ridley - Belichick effect could come into play here I really like Veeren a lot this year.

DeMarco Murray - I didn't think he was a top 10 back in 2011, I didn't think he was going to be a top back last year and I don't think he'll be a top back this year. People got this huge head about him after his massive performance vs the Rams back in 2011 and honestly I've never seen anything from the guy to prove he deserves to be drafted as high as he is. I will take him above the guys below him here but honestly, I'd just draft another position over taking Murray. He's crap.

Frank Gore - He'll lose a lot of carries this year. But he should still be a low end RB2 or high RB3 if healthy.

Maurice Jones Drew - Similar to Murray, you can't talk me into drafting him. Terrible offense, getting older, terrible situation terrible everything. He used to be a God but I don't see it anymore.

McFadden - Same as MJD and Murray... NOPE. Not going near him unless he's sitting there in the like 6th round for some reason. Otherwise he just isn't worth the early draft pick. It's not even a matter of "Will Darren get hurt this year?". It's "When will Darren get hurt this year?".

Personally, besides Forte, Jackson and Bush. I'm probably not drafting any of these other guys and I'd rather wait around till the following round and take my chances on David Wilson, Lamar Miller, LeVeon Bell, Montee Ball types. As they have big upside and in my opinion a lot better floors than some of these guys.

 

[RalphMouth]

These are #3 Tier RBs

There are not enough running backs ahead of these to supply a 12 team league as RB 1's so there will be some who will have one of these tier 3 RBs are their RB 1

 

[Borden]

From best to worst:

Forte - Doesn't belong with these guys. He belongs in the tier above them.

Jackson - Catches passes, runs hard, great team. Couldn't care less about his age or Quizz for this year.

CJ - Has put up 1000+ yards a season his entire career and has played every game pretty much.

Gore - I'd rather be the last guy off the bandwagon with the chance of getting a few more years then jump off early and watch it go by me.

MJD - Everything points to bust but this season he will be trying out for a spot on a Super Bowl contender next year or one last contract.

Bush - I get it but unless it's PPR there isn't much a chance Bush will be on any of my team.

Ridley - I should be higher on him but I don't trust New England running backs yet.

Murray - Injury issues are too high but has a better team then DMC.

DMC - I can't draft him. His injury risk is just too high.

MJD, Bush and Gore are heavily subject to change based on pre-season performance and/or roster depth performance.

 

[BlackMamba24]

Forte - Doesn't belong with these guys

What does this mean? Do you mean he is in a higher tier than these guys? Or worse? I think I would rather have Forte than a few of these guys.

 

[Borden]

Forte - Doesn't belong with these guys

What does this mean? Do you mean he is in a higher tier than these guys? Or worse? I think I would rather have Forte than a few of these guys.

I think Forte is in the tier above these guys. I will edit my post.

 

[Evil G]

It kills me when guys keep saying "I can't draft him...I can't draft whomever"

Outside of a start-up Dynasty where you might truly avoid every problem/high-risk player on some list, it's nonsense.

In a ReDraft, you'll find yourself drafting two or three guys you had no want or intention to Draft because at some point, potential return equals potential risk. This is especially true for guys like MJD or DMC, because their ceilings are so lofty.

A better angle of discussion might be...what would be the ADP in ReDraft where you might actually consider drafting Player X ??.

Coming back to the thread at hand, in ReDraft PPR I would have them ranked:

Forte (he will likely be an RB1 for most, and thus, is beyond the scope of the thread, IMO)

MJD - a very high-end RB2, he could be top 5, if Mars lines up with Saturn. There are quite a few variables in Jacksonville!

DMC - very high ceiling, contract year, will produce in every game he actually plays

CJ - all signs point to a good year

Murray - 3 down back, dynamic when he plays, the Cowboys are seemingly in every game. They lead the league in Drama, and probably so does Murray in 2013.

Bush - might catch 60 balls

SJax - goal line back on team that will be shooting the lights out in every game

Ridley - though I think he will score, I cannot bring myself to rely on the Pats, so I rank him lower than I might otherwise

Gore - he's really old. Lots of folks were counting him out last year. I am counting him out this year. Would draft him much later than most.

 

[Leonidas]

It kills me when guys keep saying "I can't draft him...I can't draft whomever"

Outside of a start-up Dynasty where you might truly avoid every problem/high-risk player on some list, it's nonsense.

In a ReDraft, you'll find yourself drafting two or three guys you had no want or intention to Draft because at some point, potential return equals potential risk. This is especially true for guys like MJD or DMC, because their ceilings are so lofty.

A better angle of discussion might be...what would be the ADP in ReDraft where you might actually consider drafting Player X ??.

This is brought up from time to time, and I agree. Every player I have seen discussed has a value. I share the sentiments of the poster above and there is very little chance I would take DMC or Murray, but if it's the 5th or 6th round and nobody has taken one of them yet...that lofty ceiling you mention becomes quite tempting.

Honestly now, how many would rather draft Woodhead as their RB4 than DMC or Murray?

BUT the unspoken and often understood part of their statement(s) is the disclaimer of "given their ADP". Sure, guys are often drafted below their ADP, but if you value them 3 rounds lower than their ADP...not much chance you'll ever see them where you would consider them. Hence comments about 'never drafting' them

 

[RalphMouth]

It kills me when guys keep saying "I can't draft him...I can't draft whomever"

Outside of a start-up Dynasty where you might truly avoid every problem/high-risk player on some list, it's nonsense.

In a ReDraft, you'll find yourself drafting two or three guys you had no want or intention to Draft because at some point, potential return equals potential risk. This is especially true for guys like MJD or DMC, because their ceilings are so lofty.

A better angle of discussion might be...what would be the ADP in ReDraft where you might actually consider drafting Player X ??.

Coming back to the thread at hand, in ReDraft PPR I would have them ranked:

Forte (he will likely be an RB1 for most, and thus, is beyond the scope of the thread, IMO)

MJD - a very high-end RB2, he could be top 5, if Mars lines up with Saturn. There are quite a few variables in Jacksonville!

DMC - very high ceiling, contract year, will produce in every game he actually plays

CJ - all signs point to a good year

Murray - 3 down back, dynamic when he plays, the Cowboys are seemingly in every game. They lead the league in Drama, and probably so does Murray in 2013.

Bush - might catch 60 balls

SJax - goal line back on team that will be shooting the lights out in every game

Ridley - though I think he will score, I cannot bring myself to rely on the Pats, so I rank him lower than I might otherwise

Gore - he's really old. Lots of folks were counting him out last year. I am counting him out this year. Would draft him much later than most.

What about a non PPR for Forte ? not only does he have Bush to deal with but also his own injury history. I'm not sure I'd be willing to draft him in the early second round.

 

[Khy]

What about a non PPR for Forte ? not only does he have Bush to deal with but also his own injury history. I'm not sure I'd be willing to draft him in the early second round.

In Non-PPR obviously Forte loses a ton of value. That said, I'm not sure of this 'injury' history. Since his rookie year in 2008 he's missed 5 games. Four of them were in 2011 when he broke his... leg? I forget what he broke. But whatever, he broke something. Then last year he tweaked his ankle and missed week 3. I wouldn't really say one severe injury is a 'history' so much as just an injury. We don't say Jamaal Charles has a history to be concerned about because he missed a whole season do we? Or what about AP?