Tiger Woods (3 Viewers)

[TheIronSheik]

This is a Tiger thread. Let's get this Spieth talk moved to another thread, guys. TIA

 

[Hooper31]

I heard lots of hyperbole during Masters week about Speith, who I like. But it was over the top. I believe it was Ian Baker-Finch who called him "a legend" on the back nine on Sunday. I had to rewind it. A little early for such talk. Everybody seems to want to be the one who "called it" when he was just starting his career.

Don't get to tear him down in epic fashion if they don't first build him up to legendary status.

 

[Apple Jack]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

Not to mention, most birdies, only player to ever be -19 and a whole slew of other records. I think it was pretty safe to call his performance legendary.

 

[Jack White]

Just watch him play. He has the confidence of a guy who's been playing on the tour for 20 years. Incredibly clutch. The putt he made to force a playoff at the shell houston open was awesome. Just walked in a 12 footer like it was nothing. He's been dominant out there.

I've watched him quite a bit the last 3+ seasons. He puts himself in position to win a lot. But I wouldn't call him clutch - he's pissed away plenty of potential wins. That said, he's taken it to a whole 'nother level the last four events he's played. Quite a roll.

He has been super resilient. In that aspect he reminds of Watson around '74-'75. He threw away a few before he learned how to close. These young guys just don't give a ####; no time to mope or analyze, just keep going after it. It's like a relief pitcher blowing a couple and then he goes out and saves 30 in a row. That's amazing mental toughness. Spieth has a short memory or else he learns quick.

I wouldn't say he pissed away those wins. He's young, and guys need to learn how to win.

The fact that's he's in contention to win so often bodes well for his future. He will now know how to win in those situations, and will probably convert more of those opportunities.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

If he wants to be a legend he needs to follow that up with a group thing with Ben Crenshaw's daughters this week.

 

[Jack White]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

If he wants to be a legend he needs to follow that up with a group thing with Ben Crenshaw's daughters this week.

Will his hot fiance participate?

 

[Apple Jack]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

Not to mention, most birdies, only player to ever be -19 and a whole slew of other records. I think it was pretty safe to call his performance legendary.

I think it's best to keep the measurements on his performance relative to the field. Yes, he played really well, but they left the course just about as easy as it could be so I don't like that those records were topped. That was not cool.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

Not to mention, most birdies, only player to ever be -19 and a whole slew of other records. I think it was pretty safe to call his performance legendary.

It was awfully good.

But when you accounting for the scoring conditions Spieth was six shots off the pace set by Floyd (1976) and five back of Jack and Tiger (1965, 1997).

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

If he wants to be a legend he needs to follow that up with a group thing with Ben Crenshaw's daughters this week.

Will his hot fiance participate?

I presumed she would be there, in only an apron and heels, bringing sandwiches and lemon aid. He would need to keep his strength up and to remain hydrated.

 

[dhockster]

So this is what I am hearing about Speith: Very good overall game and great course management. With that combination, it sounds like he will be in contention to win a lot of tournaments.

 

[urbanhack]

http://www.barstoolsports.com/iowa/spieth-tossing-up-double-middle-fingers-on-a-private-jet-because-he-can/

 

[TheIronSheik]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

Not to mention, most birdies, only player to ever be -19 and a whole slew of other records. I think it was pretty safe to call his performance legendary.

I think it's best to keep the measurements on his performance relative to the field. Yes, he played really well, but they left the course just about as easy as it could be so I don't like that those records were topped. That was not cool.

Everyone played the same course, no? Why wasn't everyone -19 if it was so easy?

 

[Apple Jack]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

Not to mention, most birdies, only player to ever be -19 and a whole slew of other records. I think it was pretty safe to call his performance legendary.

I think it's best to keep the measurements on his performance relative to the field. Yes, he played really well, but they left the course just about as easy as it could be so I don't like that those records were topped. That was not cool.

Everyone played the same course, no? Why wasn't everyone -19 if it was so easy?

um...that's why i said it's best to keep it relative to the field?

 

[lod01]

Tiger Woods!

 

[flapgreen]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

Not to mention, most birdies, only player to ever be -19 and a whole slew of other records. I think it was pretty safe to call his performance legendary.

I think it's best to keep the measurements on his performance relative to the field. Yes, he played really well, but they left the course just about as easy as it could be so I don't like that those records were topped. That was not cool.

It's a conspiracy

 

[dparker713]

If you can't see how Spieth is different from some of the guys on that list, I suggest you watch some more golf.

He's not long. He's not a magician around the greens; in fact, he's shaky on 4-8 footers. He hasn't been a great closer.

He was a prodigy, the best junior golfer since Woods. He left college after only 3 semesters and had a remarkably smooth transition to the pro level. He did well in the Walker and Ryder Cups, so he's tough mentally. Great family & support system around him.

But what makes him great? What makes him different from other young golfers who enjoyed a measure of success?

I'd say he has a lot of everything, but doesn't have one attribute that stands out besides his planning and course management. I think it's his mental focus and his putting between 10 and 20 feet. His distance control with all shots in bag is better than most guys out there right now. He may not be a magician like Phil, but his short game is amazing.

Putting at that distance is a fickle mistress. Its hard to predict greatness for someone if they need to reliably put at that distance to be great.

 

[tommyboy]

Well given what spieth has done, if he died tomorrow he'd be legendary. He's in rare company at age 21

Legendary

blocked by work filter

 

[tommyboy]

So this is what I am hearing about Speith: Very good overall game and great course management. With that combination, it sounds like he will be in contention to win a lot of tournaments.

and putts lights out

 

[dhockster]

So this is what I am hearing about Speith: Very good overall game and great course management. With that combination, it sounds like he will be in contention to win a lot of tournaments.

and putts lights out

Then he not only will be in contention, he will win a lot of tournaments.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So this is what I am hearing about Speith: Very good overall game and great course management. With that combination, it sounds like he will be in contention to win a lot of tournaments.

and putts lights out

Then he not only will be in contention, he will win a lot of tournaments.

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

 

[dparker713]

So this is what I am hearing about Speith: Very good overall game and great course management. With that combination, it sounds like he will be in contention to win a lot of tournaments.

and putts lights out

Then he not only will be in contention, he will win a lot of tournaments.

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

Tiger was in the third to last group to go out on Sunday, i.e. he was in the top 6. He needed to post a ridiculous score, but he was in contention.

 

[17seconds]

This is a Tiger thread. Let's get this Spieth talk moved to another thread, guys. TIA

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

Not to mention, most birdies, only player to ever be -19 and a whole slew of other records. I think it was pretty safe to call his performance legendary.

I think it's best to keep the measurements on his performance relative to the field. Yes, he played really well, but they left the course just about as easy as it could be so I don't like that those records were topped. That was not cool.

Everyone played the same course, no? Why wasn't everyone -19 if it was so easy?

So this is what I am hearing about Speith: Very good overall game and great course management. With that combination, it sounds like he will be in contention to win a lot of tournaments.

and putts lights out

Then he not only will be in contention, he will win a lot of tournaments.

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

Nice work here

 

[Hooper31]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

Not to mention, most birdies, only player to ever be -19 and a whole slew of other records. I think it was pretty safe to call his performance legendary.

I think it's best to keep the measurements on his performance relative to the field. Yes, he played really well, but they left the course just about as easy as it could be so I don't like that those records were topped. That was not cool.

Everyone played the same course, no? Why wasn't everyone -19 if it was so easy?

For the 2015 Masters (using only the 55 that made the cut)

Average score = -2.64

Standard deviation = 5.8

This puts Speith at 2.65 standard deviations above the mean.

For the 1997 Masters (using only the 46 that made the cut)

Average score = 3.29

Standard deviation = 6.71

This puts Woods at 3.17 standard deviations above the mean.

 

[Hooper31]

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

In 1999 Woods finished T18. Guess he's improving.

 

[Spin]

Spieth looks like he's going to be in the 6-8 major range when all is said in done. Which is still a remarkable career.

That's the impact Tiger's career has on golf now though. The media is so busy "looking for the next Tiger" that it minimizes a guy who "only" wins 6-8 majors in his career.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So this is what I am hearing about Speith: Very good overall game and great course management. With that combination, it sounds like he will be in contention to win a lot of tournaments.

and putts lights out

Then he not only will be in contention, he will win a lot of tournaments.

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

Tiger was in the third to last group to go out on Sunday, i.e. he was in the top 6. He needed to post a ridiculous score, but he was in contention.

No. No he wasn't.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

In 1999 Woods finished T18. Guess he's improving.

What?

 

[Hooper31]

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

In 1999 Woods finished T18. Guess he's improving.

What?

My mistake. Looks like he's getting worse.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

In 1999 Woods finished T18. Guess he's improving.

What?

My mistake. Looks like he's getting worse.

What are you talking about?

 

[McGarnicle]

Definitely getting worse. Elin >>>>>>>>> Vonn IMO. Then again we don't know what he's pulling on the side.

 

[Apple Jack]

We also have no idea which might be phenomenal or a boring lay.

 

[tommyboy]

Definitely getting worse. Elin >>>>>>>>> Vonn IMO. Then again we don't know what he's pulling on the side.

maybe elin wasn't so hot in the sack, hence tiger going out of bounds repeatedly. Maybe vonn is a freak

 

[Apple Jack]

thats always been my read on the two

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Pretty sure Vonn is stepping out on Tiger regularly and wouldn't be surprised if they have an agreement and he does the same.

 

[Jack White]

Definitely getting worse. Elin >>>>>>>>> Vonn IMO. Then again we don't know what he's pulling on the side.

Had to fix this for you:

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[Jack White]

So this is what I am hearing about Speith: Very good overall game and great course management. With that combination, it sounds like he will be in contention to win a lot of tournaments.

and putts lights out

Then he not only will be in contention, he will win a lot of tournaments.

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

Tiger was in the third to last group to go out on Sunday, i.e. he was in the top 6. He needed to post a ridiculous score, but he was in contention.

No. No he wasn't.

Ten strokes back and he was in contention?

No, no he wasn't.

 

[BassNBrew]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

Not to mention, most birdies, only player to ever be -19 and a whole slew of other records. I think it was pretty safe to call his performance legendary.

I think it's best to keep the measurements on his performance relative to the field. Yes, he played really well, but they left the course just about as easy as it could be so I don't like that those records were topped. That was not cool.

Everyone played the same course, no? Why wasn't everyone -19 if it was so easy?

Notice how the Tiger luvers like to tout how great he scored on one hand and the complain about how easy the course was on the other?

 

[McGarnicle]

Definitely getting worse. Elin >>>>>>>>> Vonn IMO. Then again we don't know what he's pulling on the side.

maybe elin wasn't so hot in the sack, hence tiger going out of bounds repeatedly. Maybe vonn is a freak

Or maybe she would kick the #### out of him if he cheats.

 

[Apple Jack]

Winning the Masters by four at 21 is immediate entry into the legend club.

Not to mention, most birdies, only player to ever be -19 and a whole slew of other records. I think it was pretty safe to call his performance legendary.

I think it's best to keep the measurements on his performance relative to the field. Yes, he played really well, but they left the course just about as easy as it could be so I don't like that those records were topped. That was not cool.

Everyone played the same course, no? Why wasn't everyone -19 if it was so easy?

Notice how the Tiger luvers like to tout how great he scored on one hand and the complain about how easy the course was on the other?

Jfc, some of you are dense.

 

[Lutherman2112]

Definitely getting worse. Elin >>>>>>>>> Vonn IMO. Then again we don't know what he's pulling on the side.

Had to fix this for you:

Elin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Disgusting Skiier Who's Built Like A Man

You have never had sex with a alpine/downhill skier.....phenomenally tight; both holes.

 

[grateful zed]

lets do the math here:

vonn = world class athelete > elin = psycho trophey wife

think of their kids.

 

[Anarchy99]

Spieth looks like he's going to be in the 6-8 major range when all is said in done. Which is still a remarkable career.

That's the impact Tiger's career has on golf now though. The media is so busy "looking for the next Tiger" that it minimizes a guy who "only" wins 6-8 majors in his career.

8 majors would tie him (at least for now) with Tom Watson for 6th most all time.

That being said, I'm not sure what a 6-8 time major champion looks like at 21.

The other thing to consider these days is the winners make so much money and get truckloads of cash in endorsements and appearance fees that there is a lot less incentive to play for 20-30 years than there used to be. Guys can be set up for life early on and may not want to play as much or as long. It remains to be seen how well people can do really only playing the major tournaments.

 

[Johnnymac]

So this is what I am hearing about Speith: Very good overall game and great course management. With that combination, it sounds like he will be in contention to win a lot of tournaments.

and putts lights out

Then he not only will be in contention, he will win a lot of tournaments.

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

Tiger was in the third to last group to go out on Sunday, i.e. he was in the top 6. He needed to post a ridiculous score, but he was in contention.

No. No he wasn't.

Ten strokes back and he was in contention?

No, no he wasn't.

At Augusta I would say 10 behind with one round to go is not impossible. he could catch the leader. The bigger problem is how many golfers are between him and the leader. I mean odds are they all won't come back to the field. If a guy is 10 behind and goes out and shoots 64, that's 8 of those strokes right there (to par). I think Greg Norman was like 6 or 7 shots ahead going in to the final round in 96. He lost by 6 or 7 shots. Point is there can be some big swings on that golf course. It's one of the reasons it's such a great tournament.

 

[Ghost Rider]

FYI, Tiger Woods is now ranked 101st in the world. Up 10 spots from last week. Way to go, Tiger!

 

[Hooper31]

Now when you say "in contention" do you mean tied for 17th?

In 1999 Woods finished T18. Guess he's improving.

What?

My mistake. Looks like he's getting worse.

What are you talking about?

Didn't want you feeling all alone. Thought it might make you feel better if someone else was making nonsensical meaningless statements.

Did you figure out what "relative to the field" means? Woods 1997 was more impressive than Spieth 2015.

 

[Apple Jack]

At Augusta I would say 10 behind with one round to go is not impossible. he could catch the leader. The bigger problem is how many golfers are between him and the leader. I mean odds are they all won't come back to the field. If a guy is 10 behind and goes out and shoots 64, that's 8 of those strokes right there (to par). I think Greg Norman was like 6 or 7 shots ahead going in to the final round in 96. He lost by 6 or 7 shots. Point is there can be some big swings on that golf course. It's one of the reasons it's such a great tournament.

Not the way it was set up last week.

 

[Short Corner]

At Augusta I would say 10 behind with one round to go is not impossible. he could catch the leader. The bigger problem is how many golfers are between him and the leader. I mean odds are they all won't come back to the field. If a guy is 10 behind and goes out and shoots 64, that's 8 of those strokes right there (to par). I think Greg Norman was like 6 or 7 shots ahead going in to the final round in 96. He lost by 6 or 7 shots. Point is there can be some big swings on that golf course. It's one of the reasons it's such a great tournament.

Not the way it was set up last week.

 

[dparker713]

At Augusta I would say 10 behind with one round to go is not impossible. he could catch the leader. The bigger problem is how many golfers are between him and the leader. I mean odds are they all won't come back to the field. If a guy is 10 behind and goes out and shoots 64, that's 8 of those strokes right there (to par). I think Greg Norman was like 6 or 7 shots ahead going in to the final round in 96. He lost by 6 or 7 shots. Point is there can be some big swings on that golf course. It's one of the reasons it's such a great tournament.

Not the way it was set up last week.

This course wasn't so easy that a 2 over from Spieth on Sunday was out of the question.

 

[Apple Jack]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2430216-2015-masters-why-jordan-spieths-scoring-records-are-not-quite-what-they-seem

So the conditions‑‑ the scoring conditions were there, because the greens were soft. I mean we could be aggressive. And the balls were staying back. I was talking to Thomas Bjorn and O'Meara and even Tom Watson earlier today and we couldn't believe how slow they were yesterday. Again, they were slow again today.
The balls were spinning back. 5‑irons were making ball marks, things like that, things that you just don't normally find here. But it's up to the committee. If they want to make this golf course a little drier, I was telling the guys earlier, it's quiet out there, there's no sub airs going. If they turn the sub airs on, they can suck the moisture out of this thing and get them firm, or they can live with it like it is, and we can go out there and make a bunch of birdies.