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Tiki is now 31 yrs old.... (1 Viewer)

DWidmar

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Tiki has outperformed the expectations almost every year the last few years. That being said, he is now 31 years old and should be winding down on a pretty good career. The biggest question is who is next in line when Tiki is done? I am in a dynasty league and need to stay on top of this stuff. I read these articles and was wondering if there were any NY Giant homers or anyone else who might be able to provide some insight into which direction the Giants might be going. As you can read, there seems to be good feelings about both Ward and Jacobs.

-- Giants' RB Coach Praises Ward --

Thu Jun 22, 2006

Michael Eisen, reporting for the New York Giants' official website, reports Giants running backs coach Jerald Ingram praised RB Derrick Ward. “Derrick Ward’s doing a good job, a very good job. He’s quick, he’s got size, he’s got changeability. I’ve got a great group of guys that are competitive and they will all compete. Tiki will compete for what he has and I think Derrick is trying to compete for Tiki’s position, he’s not just trying to compete for Brandon’s position or whatever, he’s trying to compete for the number one spot. Brandon’s trying to compete for the number one spot. They understand this NFL is not for long, so you’ve go to be ready. We try to coach these guys so that the bottom guy is treated just like the guy on top, because anytime that’s going to be your opportunity now and you’re either ready for that opportunity or you’re not, it’s a one shot deal.”

-- Giants Comfortable with Jacobs --

Thu Jun 22, 2006

Michael Eisen, reporting for the New York Giants' official website, reports Giants running backs coach Jerald Ingram said he's comfortable with RB Brandon Jacobs backing up RB Tiki Barber. “Definitely. Tiki feels a little bit better about him and you know it’s been a burden on Tiki’s shoulders for him to come off the field and feel that you still have a playmaker out there on the field. And that’s the real reason why Tiki doesn’t come of the field. It isn’t so much, yeah he’s a great competitor, he wants to be the guy making plays. (It’s because) he wants to feel good that the next guy to come on the field is in the same position that he’s in. Tiki is a mirror image of me, he’s my coach on the side, he helps coach those guys along the way. He wants to win, he evaluates, he sees things, he’s always talking to them. We’re on the same page and that’s all he wants, the best for everybody to make sure we win. If you’re in that position, you’ve got to step up in that position and know it inside and out, just don’t be one-dimensional. That was his goal a year ago, to just say I’m going to do this little small segment and be one-dimensional. No, you can’t do that in the NFL. The more you do, the better we’re going to be.” Ingram also commented on Jacobs’ ability to recognize and stop a blitz. “He and I spent a lot of time watching film, recognizing defenses, recognizing secondary tips and just becoming more familiar with what he has to get done. See, he hasn’t really been challenged to do an awful lot where he’s been. He’s been the runner, he’s been the big guy, the goliath, just plowing people and now he’s being put in a situation where he has to understand the pass game as opposed to just being a physical runner. We are always saying to him that the more you can do, the more you’re going to be, the better we’re going to be and the longer you can exist in this profession.”

 
Tiki takes care of his body so well I wouldn't be surprised if he's a good starter for another three or four years. That's why I think the next Giants RB isn't on the roster yet.

 
wait, the giants won't have tiki forever? :wall:

that being said I think the giants drafted jacobs with the hopes that he can take over one day, but over the course of last season realized that won't be the case. With that awful schedule next year I wouldn't be surprised if the giants use their mid 1st round pick (15-20) to take a RB.

 
Tike is in the best shape of his life and is just about pure muslke right now..look for another 3 years from him..before they think long term replacment..

 
Jacobs is more of a goal line runner imo. I really don't think Barber's '07 replacement is on the team right now (assuming he's done next year). I think the Giants address that position next year in the draft even though TB will be up for the rookie challenge. I see Jacobs as a thunder specialist and nothing more than that. I could be wrong though. He reminds me of Duckett with less speed, a bit more wiggle, and about the same on the incumbency scale.

 
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Yeah...Barber should be in good shape production wise for a couple more seasons. I read an article on his conditioning....right before 2004, his true breakout season, he changed up his offseason workout and did something completely different. Not sure who it was, but he hired a former World's Strongest Man champion to help him weight train and maximize every muscle in his body, strength wise and endurance wise. I don't think it's a coincidence that only after he started doing that workout that he became an elite RB.

 
Some of you guys are crazy thinking he has 3,4,5 years left. Just doesn't happen. People thought that about Holmes a couple years ago too.

 
Some of you guys are crazy thinking he has 3,4,5 years left. Just doesn't happen. People thought that about Holmes a couple years ago too.
I agree. I think this will be his last year of somewhat stud status and then '07 will be where he really just hits the wall. Just my gut talking but you have to play the percentages. It'll be just a matter of how far and how fast he falls, but I expect it all to start happening next year but we should see a slight slow down even in this season. A typical underrated guy who had a previously phenomenal season and will end up being slightly, if not completely, overrated this year. In a ppr league, he should still go in the mid to late first round though.
 
Here is some info on Jacobs coming out of last year's draft:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/jacobs_brandon

Fairly impressive. I think he could be an every down back. He has a ton of talent/ability, but his problem is between his ears. I think the Giants are going to see how he does this year and then make a decision whether it will be Jacobs or spend an early draft pick on an RB next year.

I think Ward will always be a back up, but you never know.

 
Some of you guys are crazy thinking he has 3,4,5 years left. Just doesn't happen. People thought that about Holmes a couple years ago too.
I agree. I think this will be his last year of somewhat stud status and then '07 will be where he really just hits the wall. Just my gut talking but you have to play the percentages. It'll be just a matter of how far and how fast he falls, but I expect it all to start happening next year but we should see a slight slow down even in this season. A typical underrated guy who had a previously phenomenal season and will end up being slightly, if not completely, overrated this year. In a ppr league, he should still go in the mid to late first round though.
These are obviously the thoghts I share as that is why I started the thread. It is time to start thinking about a replacement. It will be interesting to see if either Ward or Jacobs picks up Tiki's offseason routine and use it to help themselves. That could be the difference between one of these guys sticking and the Giants having to draft a RB.
 

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