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Tiki to retire!? (1 Viewer)

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Tiki retiring?

"Giants running back Tiki Barber, the leading rusher in the N.F.L. this season, said yesterday that he was likely to retire at season’s end to pursue his ample off-field opportunities.

During a promotional book tour in Manhattan, Barber said he was “leaning toward” retiring, and that he had “pretty much” made up his mind. Asked what would force him to reconsider, he said, “Nothing.”

Barber stopped short of announcing his retirement from football. His business agent, Mark Lepselter, who manages Barber’s off-field career, said it was possible that Barber could change his mind.

“He’s seriously leaning toward it,” Lepselter said of retiring. “I think he feels he’s perfected his craft, in a way, and is ready for something else.”

 
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The thing is, when a player retires he's sure of it.

Yeah I understand Jordan and Seau and plenty of others but they stand up on that podium and are dead certain at that time that they're retiring. His uncertainty makes me question it, think maybe another year.

 
The thing is, when a player retires he's sure of it.

Yeah I understand Jordan and Seau and plenty of others but they stand up on that podium and are dead certain at that time that they're retiring. His uncertainty makes me question it, think maybe another year.
if they go deep into the playoffs then lose he's coming back for sure IMO.
 
I would love Tiki to stick around another year and help the GMen get a shot at the title. but I think he really means it. What a great player and a great guy, he will be sorely missed.

 
Are you sure this isn't a reprint from last year? Or the year before that? :)
I don't recall hearing that from Tiki last year - just earlier this year.Nobody believed Robert Smith either, and he did exactly what he said he was going to do.I don't think Tiki is your average NFL RB. He strikes me as exceptionaly smart, and he is probably smart enough to know that another two or three years might mean the physical difference between being structurally sound or permanently mangled for his next 60 years or so. He's already set for life financially, and he has outstanding prospects as an on-air personality for the next phase of his career. In the last couple of years, he's really solidifed his legacy as one of the best RBs to play the game (personally, I think he should have won the MVP last year). His team is decent but he knows it isn't a legit championship contender and won't be in the next year or two.To me, all of that adds up to retirement being the right move for him and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him make that move.
 
does anybody have a link or thread with a link confirming he said he was retiring before this season...

all i remember seeing before was that he was thinking about it... i don't even remember him saying he was strongly thinking about...

from my recollection of what he said before, this is stronger language...

if that is the case, than this doesn't fall into the category of information we already possessed...

 
does anybody have a link or thread with a link confirming he said he was retiring before this season...all i remember seeing before was that he was thinking about it... i don't even remember him saying he was strongly thinking about...from my recollection of what he said before, this is stronger language...if that is the case, than this doesn't fall into the category of information we already possessed...
Funny, because I was listening to Sirius tonight (Barber Shop) and remembered that he is a bit critical of RBs that try to "keep the dream alive" like Faulk and Holmes. He has more opportunites for post-career success than most QBs, let alone RBs. He plays the game, he loves the game, but I just don't get the feeling that he IS the game. That makes it easier to walk away.
 
i agree it makes sense in a lot of ways for him to walk away at the top, & one of the best reasons being he has so many other options that may not be available for everybody...

just imo, this is the strongest language he has used to date... i thought he said pre-season he was thinking about it, but i thought there was a decent chance he might play two more seasons... based on what he is saying here, it sure doesn't sound like it anymore...

 
Tiki is showing his ego here. Do we have to listen to this every week during the NFL season and preseason now too? It really disgusts me when players like this play to the media about retiring just to get more press. The easiest way to get your name in the papers is to start toying with the idea of retirement even when you have game left. Players need to start playing football and not playing in the media.

[/favrebasheralert]

 
Feeling better about my trade of Tiki for Lamont Jordan (dynasty league...also TD heavy so Tiki didn't give me much anyway).

 
Tiki is showing his ego here. Do we have to listen to this every week during the NFL season and preseason now too? It really disgusts me when players like this play to the media about retiring just to get more press. The easiest way to get your name in the papers is to start toying with the idea of retirement even when you have game left. Players need to start playing football and not playing in the media.[/favrebasheralert]
Situation is in no way comparable to Favre. T Barber was on a book tour [he wrote a children's book] and probably was answering a direct question on the subject.
 
from July of this year

Tiki Barber may retire after this season if the right opportunity comes around, according to the AP. Barber did not elaborate on what job he is seeking after football, but he admitted that he got a few offers that interested him this past summer. "I know that I have a focus and when camp starts, I shift to this (football)," Barber added. "What I do in my offseason is my business even though it is in the public eye. I'm excited for new challenges in my life and we'll see what happens with this season, and possibly next." Barber is coming off of four consecutive 1,000-yard seasons.
http://www.rototimes.com/nfl/player/982
 
Giants fan chiming in here.

It has been bandied about for the past few years about Tiki retiring and he has discussed it in a very theoretical fashion. Before the season I believe, he said he would probably like to play for 1 or 2 more seasons.

I'm sure he hasn't decided anything yet in the middle of a campaign and much can change before any decision is made, but this is much more of a decisive statement than he has made in the past.

Again, not saying he will retire, but this quote has a different, more decided tone than previous quotes from Tiki on the subject.

Just a :homer: point of view, FWIW.

 
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Tiki will be a star after his football career. If the right opportunity arises I think he would leave the game. I don't think it is a done deal though.

On a different note: if Tiki hung it up after this year - any chance for him to get in the HOF with his numbers?

 
Tiki strikes me as one of the most intelligent and balanced football players in the league. It would be a very smart move for him to retire at the top of his game since he could use that reputaiton very well. He also seems to have a lot of intrests outside of football already, and they are not just other hobbies to fill his time.

I'd hate to see him go, but in reality he needs to go soon if that is his plan.

 
The New York Times reports Giants RB Tiki Barber, the leading rusher in the NFL this season, said yesterday that he was likely to retire at season’s end to pursue his ample off-field opportunities. During a promotional book tour in Manhattan, Barber said he was “leaning toward” retiring, and that he had “pretty much” made up his mind. Asked what would force him to reconsider, he said, “Nothing.” Barber stopped short of announcing his retirement from football. His business agent, Mark Lepselter, who manages Barber’s off-field career, said it was possible that Barber could change his mind. “He’s seriously leaning toward it,” Lepselter said of retirement. “I think he feels he’s perfected his craft, in a way, and is ready for something else.” Ernie Accorsi, the Giants’ general manager, said yesterday that he did not want to comment on Barber’s retirement plans until he heard them from Barber. Barber, who is married and has two toddler-age sons, would also like to be the rare football player who retires while still being considered one of the game’s best. “For the longest time, I thought I had to win a Super Bowl to define my career,” Barber said. “I would like to, but I don’t have to, because I can walk away knowing I did the best I could.” He says he has spent most of his career pondering his post-playing days, which he hopes will begin with a career in television. Among other side jobs — as a radio talk-show host, a children’s book author and general man about town — he spends Tuesday mornings as a co-host of “Fox & Friends,” a general news program on Fox News. But his contract with Fox expires in January, and negotiations with other networks can begin in November. It may be a case of fortuitous timing for Barber, even helping to push him toward ending his playing career.
 
Jacobs could be a fantasy machine for the Giants next year
I just don't see Jacobs as a featured back. I think with his body size and the way he runs, he would have a hard time staying healthy. I think Michael Turner would be a good fit for Tiki's position.
 
It was on fox last sunday tiki was interviewed and the question was asked if he minded splitting carries with jacobs and he said no because it would extened his time playing for a couple more years. It was a segment on what tiki and dunn do to prepare for games and how they avoid taking the big hit. So i do not believe he will retire.

 
I don't get why people are down on Brandon Jacobs. All he has done is perform this year. He has been running people over this year and looks like he is running down hill every time he touches the ball. His blocking looks good and he has even shown some solid ability to catch the ball, too. He's averaging 5.2 YPC and it's not like he is spelling Tiki for a play or two. He is often in for whole series and putting up those numbers.

Granted, he can't catch the ball like Tiki can, but few backs can. The kid is only 24 and he looks like the real deal to me.

Nobody can fully replace a Tiki Barber, who I wish well but will miss a ton if he does choose to retire. But Jacobs looks like he has a bright future, in my opinion, and, as a Giants fan, am happy they will have him around once Tiki does decide to hang 'em up.

 
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It was on fox last sunday tiki was interviewed and the question was asked if he minded splitting carries with jacobs and he said no because it would extened his time playing for a couple more years. It was a segment on what tiki and dunn do to prepare for games and how they avoid taking the big hit. So i do not believe he will retire.
I saw that interview and agree Tiki is will be around for a few more years.Tiki has a passion for the game and once he gets on the field he is all business, for some reason Tiki nevers get the love he deserves.I have him in 3 leagues and he is always the top running back on my team. I just wish they were PPR leagues.They have been writing about Tikis demise every year, used to be becasue of fumbling problems, then Dayne was going to take goal line carries from him, now he is going to retire. Unless he gets a major injury I call bs on this one.
 
Tiki will be a star after his football career. If the right opportunity arises I think he would leave the game. I don't think it is a done deal though. On a different note: if Tiki hung it up after this year - any chance for him to get in the HOF with his numbers?
I've posted this one before, but there's a HOF test for any sport. You hear the name and if it takes you more than a second to think about it, the player is not a Hall of Famer. Tiki Barber is a great player, but doesn't pass that test. He's not a Hall of Famer. (and IMHO, Harry Carson wasn't either)
 
GrandpaRox said:
gman74 said:
It was on fox last sunday tiki was interviewed and the question was asked if he minded splitting carries with jacobs and he said no because it would extened his time playing for a couple more years. It was a segment on what tiki and dunn do to prepare for games and how they avoid taking the big hit. So i do not believe he will retire.
I saw that interview and agree Tiki is will be around for a few more years.Tiki has a passion for the game and once he gets on the field he is all business, for some reason Tiki nevers get the love he deserves.

I have him in 3 leagues and he is always the top running back on my team. I just wish they were PPR leagues.

They have been writing about Tikis demise every year, used to be becasue of fumbling problems, then Dayne was going to take goal line carries from him, now he is going to retire.

Unless he gets a major injury I call bs on this one.
Highlighted the only relevant line since the other three have nothing to do with the issue - you having him in 3 leagues is irrelevant, and I don't believe that you know more about what Tiki is "passionate" about than what the man himself says.As for the bolded line, the difference between those other predictions of demise are that they were produced by "they" writing; the media, the "experts", etc. This is not "they". This is Tiki saying he's going to retire. I don't know why you would take something he said last Sunday as more truthful than something he said yesterday.

 
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If he does retire, it would make me feel better about my Tiki for Dunn and Randy Moss trade I just pulled the trigger on in a dynasty league.

 
Chairshot said:
I don't get why people are down on Brandon Jacobs. All he has done is perform this year. He has been running people over this year and looks like he is running down hill every time he touches the ball. His blocking looks good and he has even shown some solid ability to catch the ball, too. He's averaging 5.2 YPC and it's not like he is spelling Tiki for a play or two. He is often in for whole series and putting up those numbers.
Jacobs is RARELY in for an entire series. if you're a giants fan, then you must not be watching the games. jacobs may come in for a 3-down set to give Tiki a blow, but its not like Coughlin has series earmarked for Jacobs to be in on.Jacobs has been the short-yardage guy this year primarily. and he's looked good doing it. he moves the pile, makes decisive moves, and overall, i think he COULD be the guy should Tiki retire (which i fully believe he will). but i think the giants will definitely take a RB high in the draft, who will likely compete with jacobs for the starting gig. there is no way they sign michael turner, in my opinion. they (still) need the help in the secondary, and that's where i see them spending their money (again) this off-season.

 
Chairshot said:
I don't get why people are down on Brandon Jacobs. All he has done is perform this year. He has been running people over this year and looks like he is running down hill every time he touches the ball. His blocking looks good and he has even shown some solid ability to catch the ball, too. He's averaging 5.2 YPC and it's not like he is spelling Tiki for a play or two. He is often in for whole series and putting up those numbers.Granted, he can't catch the ball like Tiki can, but few backs can. The kid is only 24 and he looks like the real deal to me.Nobody can fully replace a Tiki Barber, who I wish well but will miss a ton if he does choose to retire. But Jacobs looks like he has a bright future, in my opinion, and, as a Giants fan, am happy they will have him around once Tiki does decide to hang 'em up.
From what I've observed he doesn't have the full skill set to be an every down, top 10 FF RB. He definitely is an outstanding between the tackles, downhill runner, but:- He's not involved in the passing game at all. This may be because Tiki is a better receiver, but IMO they'd bring in a good 3rd down back next year if Tiki's gone.- I also don't see him run outside that well, though his number isn't called that often on these types of plays.I guess I would echo the "could" sentiment from above as a lot of scenarios he just doesn't get in on b/c Tiki's there. If tiki is gone chances are he'd be the 1st/2nd down guy there next year but long term (5+ years) I just don't see it.
 
GrandpaRox said:
gman74 said:
It was on fox last sunday tiki was interviewed and the question was asked if he minded splitting carries with jacobs and he said no because it would extened his time playing for a couple more years. It was a segment on what tiki and dunn do to prepare for games and how they avoid taking the big hit. So i do not believe he will retire.
I saw that interview and agree Tiki is will be around for a few more years.Tiki has a passion for the game and once he gets on the field he is all business, for some reason Tiki nevers get the love he deserves.I have him in 3 leagues and he is always the top running back on my team. I just wish they were PPR leagues.They have been writing about Tikis demise every year, used to be becasue of fumbling problems, then Dayne was going to take goal line carries from him, now he is going to retire. Unless he gets a major injury I call bs on this one.
BREAKING NEWS.......CBS Sportsline just reported this story! :D
 
Are you sure this isn't a reprint from last year? Or the year before that? :)
I don't recall hearing that from Tiki last year - just earlier this year.Nobody believed Robert Smith either, and he did exactly what he said he was going to do.I don't think Tiki is your average NFL RB. He strikes me as exceptionaly smart, and he is probably smart enough to know that another two or three years might mean the physical difference between being structurally sound or permanently mangled for his next 60 years or so. He's already set for life financially, and he has outstanding prospects as an on-air personality for the next phase of his career. In the last couple of years, he's really solidifed his legacy as one of the best RBs to play the game (personally, I think he should have won the MVP last year). His team is decent but he knows it isn't a legit championship contender and won't be in the next year or two.To me, all of that adds up to retirement being the right move for him and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him make that move.
:goodposting:
 
Tiki will be a star after his football career. If the right opportunity arises I think he would leave the game. I don't think it is a done deal though. On a different note: if Tiki hung it up after this year - any chance for him to get in the HOF with his numbers?
There are only 2 RB's with over 10,000 yards rushing and 5,000 yards receiving (Marcus Allen and Marshall Faulk). Tiki will finish this season with both. If he keeps up his per game total for the rest of the season, he will be very close to 11,000 yards rushing for his career.He may not make the HOF, but I do not think there will ever be another NYGiant with the #21 again.
 
This has been speculated for a while now and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he does retire after this year. I think that next year, if he comes back, would definitely be his last. I also think NYG will draft a replacement to pair with Jacobs. I am not confident that Jacobs is an every down RB. He would be a good "thunder and lightning" compliment, though. He should do well in fantasy terms, though, because he will get the majority of the goal line looks, so combined with an increased workload between the 20s, he will be a decent future fantasy RB. He will share carries with someone else, though. That someone is still in college, I think.

 
With this in mind, what would you give up for Tiki in a dynasty league, if it made you the favorite for a title this season?

Even without a TD, he is still a top 5 talent in a PPR league.

I don't want to turn this into an ACF, but to name some younger options I might consider giving up for him:

C. Taylor

J. Jones

T. Bell

T. Jones

L. Jordan

W. Mcgahee

J. Addai

C. Williams

Would any of those guys be too much to give up for what looks like a one-year shot at a top RB?

 
Are you sure this isn't a reprint from last year? Or the year before that? :)
I don't recall hearing that from Tiki last year - just earlier this year.Nobody believed Robert Smith either, and he did exactly what he said he was going to do.I don't think Tiki is your average NFL RB. He strikes me as exceptionaly smart, and he is probably smart enough to know that another two or three years might mean the physical difference between being structurally sound or permanently mangled for his next 60 years or so. He's already set for life financially, and he has outstanding prospects as an on-air personality for the next phase of his career. In the last couple of years, he's really solidifed his legacy as one of the best RBs to play the game (personally, I think he should have won the MVP last year). His team is decent but he knows it isn't a legit championship contender and won't be in the next year or two.To me, all of that adds up to retirement being the right move for him and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him make that move.
For every one that does there are 20 that don't.See Jerome Bettis 2 years ago.
 
EPSN radio is playing an interview from yesterday during it's sportscenter where Barber confirms that he's seriously considering retirement after this season. He said something like his body is taking a beating and that coming back for a couple of 600-700 yard seasons to ensure him into the Hall of Fame just ins't who he is.

Myself as a Jacobs owner in Dynasty is getting all giddy.

 

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