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Time for us all to help with who to start for the playoffs (1 Viewer)

Liquid Tension

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1) What data do we have showing whether it is true that you should always start your studs in the playoffs? By stud, I would designate it as players who have always performed at a high level, even if slumping through the year.

2) What about players who have had very good years going into the playoffs, if they have not been proven in the past, can you expect them to continue?

3) How much does weather really impact games and what kind of weather?

3a) How do different types of weather impact the passing game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing?

3b) How do different types of weather impact the running game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing?

3c) How do different types of weather impact your defense?

Not looking for opinion, looking for data that has been compiled that can help all of us make good decisions.

Let's see what we have!

 
1) What data do we have showing whether it is true that you should always start your studs in the playoffs? By stud, I would designate it as players who have always performed at a high level, even if slumping through the year.2) What about players who have had very good years going into the playoffs, if they have not been proven in the past, can you expect them to continue?3) How much does weather really impact games and what kind of weather?3a) How do different types of weather impact the passing game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing? 3b) How do different types of weather impact the running game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing? 3c) How do different types of weather impact your defense?Not looking for opinion, looking for data that has been compiled that can help all of us make good decisions.Let's see what we have!
Wow, we have people more interested in responding to topics about whether or not you should penalize someone for a trade they thought was unreasonable than really taking and in depth look at some of the above to get some factual evidence to make educated and important decisions from? :thumbdown: Footballguys staff, this is information you should be giving us?Shout out!
 
1) What data do we have showing whether it is true that you should always start your studs in the playoffs? By stud, I would designate it as players who have always performed at a high level, even if slumping through the year.2) What about players who have had very good years going into the playoffs, if they have not been proven in the past, can you expect them to continue?3) How much does weather really impact games and what kind of weather?3a) How do different types of weather impact the passing game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing? 3b) How do different types of weather impact the running game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing? 3c) How do different types of weather impact your defense?Not looking for opinion, looking for data that has been compiled that can help all of us make good decisions.Let's see what we have!
Start the guys with the best PPG.
 
I'm interested in some answers as well, liquid, but those are tough questions, and I would imagine many of us only have opinions and not factual evidence.

:blackdot:

 
1) What data do we have showing whether it is true that you should always start your studs in the playoffs? By stud, I would designate it as players who have always performed at a high level, even if slumping through the year.
Unless their team clinched, data? well recall all the "why did I bench soandso" posts you've seen here over the years
2) What about players who have had very good years going into the playoffs, if they have not been proven in the past, can you expect them to continue?
why not?
3) How much does weather really impact games and what kind of weather?3a) How do different types of weather impact the passing game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing?
Cold affects WRs and passing game stats in general but there are guys like Favre and Brady that thrive in it so just in general.
3b) How do different types of weather impact the running game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing? precipitation of any kind messes with their footing and we debate "mudders" around here. For example Barlow a few weeks back flourished in the mud, I mean probably better than ya ever saw the guy play.3c) How do different types of weather impact your defense?
IMO they make it easier to play D as too many NFL players are good at smacking a ball carrier to the ground with a hit and don't wrap up. I figure it helps during the cold and hurts rest of the year. Also can't hurt if your hit has an extra sting or the ball carrier has trouble getting his footing or getting his "frozen" fingers to clutch the ball.
Not looking for opinion, looking for data that has been compiled that can help all of us make good decisions.
you can do some research if you'd like. I think this is what was limitting your replies so I answerred anyway, maybe get something going
 
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I'm interested in some answers as well, liquid, but those are tough questions, and I would imagine many of us only have opinions and not factual evidence. :blackdot:
Yes, we do have opinions and maybe we should state them to get a good discussion going, but I would imagine someone has done some real good research on this. For example, if you were looking at studs, how did their team clinching really impact them. Were they rested only in week 17 (which most of us don't care about or were they pulled at half time?
 
1) What data do we have showing whether it is true that you should always start your studs in the playoffs? By stud, I would designate it as players who have always performed at a high level, even if slumping through the year.
Unless their team clinched, data? well recall all the "why did I bench soandso" posts you've seen here over the years Yeah, but the people that did pick the right guy don't always say they picked teh right guy so you don't really know?
2) What about players who have had very good years going into the playoffs, if they have not been proven in the past, can you expect them to continue?
why not? Sometimes later in the year players wear down and flukes get spotted and adjusted to.
3) How much does weather really impact games and what kind of weather?

3a) How do different types of weather impact the passing game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing?
Cold affects WRs and passing game stats in general but there are guys like Favre and Brady that thrive in it so just in general. Too much opinion here
3b) How do different types of weather impact the running game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing?

precipitation of any kind messes with their footing and we debate "mudders" around here. For example Barlow a few weeks back flourished in the mud, I mean probably better than ya ever saw the guy play.

3c) How do different types of weather impact your defense?
IMO they make it easier to play D as too many NFL players are good at smacking a ball carrier to the ground with a hit and don't wrap up. I figure it helps during the cold and hurts rest of the year. Also can't hurt if your hit has an extra sting or the ball carrier has trouble getting his footing or getting his "frozen" fingers to clutch the ball.
Not looking for opinion, looking for data that has been compiled that can help all of us make good decisions.
you can do some research if you'd like. I think this is what was limitting your replies so I answerred anyway, maybe get something going
See the comments in blue aboveI do appreciate your response. I would agree based on opinion that cold helps the defense, but would say that wind does even more to help the defense and hurt the passing game. I would think that a heavy wind hurts the offense as a whole as well as defenses would have more guys in the box knowing that it is hard to throw the ball far. More slants would be the easier way to throw. Rain can help the receivers sometimes as they know where they are going to go and the defense might have more trouble adjusting?

 
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LT,

for the WRs, I have posted such data in the past but can't find it here or on hard drive. Mudders also has been coverred here but can't recall who posted it. For some reason I always assume Yudkin would do such a study among staff members so...I don't know.

I guess the easiest way is to imagine Holt scooting along the turf while Moulds trucks thru snow.

Sorry, just can't find the info

 
LT,

for the WRs, I have posted such data in the past but can't find it here or on hard drive. Mudders also has been coverred here but can't recall who posted it. For some reason I always assume Yudkin would do such a study among staff members so...I don't know.

I guess the easiest way is to imagine Holt scooting along the turf while Moulds trucks thru snow.

Sorry, just can't find the info
Here is a link to an article that is posted on the website. Hope it helps. http://footballguys.com/06drinen-week17.php

Conclusion from the article:

Roughly speaking, this article could be summarized with this sentence: over the past ten years, important fantasy players have been non-factors in week 17 about twice as often as they have been during week 16. Top 10 quarterbacks who played in week 15 rested 7% of the time in week 16 and 20% of the time in week 17. Top 20 running backs who played in week 15 rested about 12% of the time in week 16 and about 20% of the time in week 17.

There is no right or wrong way to run a league. Head-to-head, total points, keeper, redraft, serpentine, auction, decimal scoring, TD-only, point per reception, start two QBs, whatever. If it's what the members of your league want, then it's how your league should be. It would be inappropriate for me to tell you that you should or should not have a week 17 Super Bowl because of this article.

This article simply contains information. Use it, if you wish, to help your league better understand the pros and cons of a particular schedule.

 
Buy a subscription, look at the cheatsheet. I'm sure all of those factors are taken into consideration when the weekly cheatsheet is posted.

If you already have a subscription, they are already telling you who they think is the best start for that given week in the cheatsheet.

 
LT,

for the WRs, I have posted such data in the past but can't find it here or on hard drive. Mudders also has been coverred here but can't recall who posted it. For some reason I always assume Yudkin would do such a study among staff members so...I don't know.

I guess the easiest way is to imagine Holt scooting along the turf while Moulds trucks thru snow.

Sorry, just can't find the info
Here is a link to an article that is posted on the website. Hope it helps. http://footballguys.com/06drinen-week17.php

Conclusion from the article:

Roughly speaking, this article could be summarized with this sentence: over the past ten years, important fantasy players have been non-factors in week 17 about twice as often as they have been during week 16. Top 10 quarterbacks who played in week 15 rested 7% of the time in week 16 and 20% of the time in week 17. Top 20 running backs who played in week 15 rested about 12% of the time in week 16 and about 20% of the time in week 17.

There is no right or wrong way to run a league. Head-to-head, total points, keeper, redraft, serpentine, auction, decimal scoring, TD-only, point per reception, start two QBs, whatever. If it's what the members of your league want, then it's how your league should be. It would be inappropriate for me to tell you that you should or should not have a week 17 Super Bowl because of this article.

This article simply contains information. Use it, if you wish, to help your league better understand the pros and cons of a particular schedule.
:thumbup: And when you calculate the odds that the top-10 RB/QB will be one of the 20% who is sitting AND on a Super Bowl squad, there is no "right" answer to the question of week 17 Super Bowls.

That said, in leagues that DO have week 16 Super Bowls, I hate not having anything going on week 17 - use the week for something - have everyone submit their best lineup and the high scorer gets a small percentage of the prize money or some such.

Or have a no-money consolation bowl that week between the teams booted the week before the Bowl to see who gets a cheap, 5-dollar, third place trophy - pass that same trophy around from year to year.

Anyway, back on topic.

 
biggyd said:
LT,

for the WRs, I have posted such data in the past but can't find it here or on hard drive. Mudders also has been coverred here but can't recall who posted it. For some reason I always assume Yudkin would do such a study among staff members so...I don't know.

I guess the easiest way is to imagine Holt scooting along the turf while Moulds trucks thru snow.

Sorry, just can't find the info
Here is a link to an article that is posted on the website. Hope it helps. http://footballguys.com/06drinen-week17.php

Conclusion from the article:

Roughly speaking, this article could be summarized with this sentence: over the past ten years, important fantasy players have been non-factors in week 17 about twice as often as they have been during week 16. Top 10 quarterbacks who played in week 15 rested 7% of the time in week 16 and 20% of the time in week 17. Top 20 running backs who played in week 15 rested about 12% of the time in week 16 and about 20% of the time in week 17.

There is no right or wrong way to run a league. Head-to-head, total points, keeper, redraft, serpentine, auction, decimal scoring, TD-only, point per reception, start two QBs, whatever. If it's what the members of your league want, then it's how your league should be. It would be inappropriate for me to tell you that you should or should not have a week 17 Super Bowl because of this article.

This article simply contains information. Use it, if you wish, to help your league better understand the pros and cons of a particular schedule.
Thanks Biggyd. That seems to address the % you could expect your players to be rested (I don't think SB's should be played in week 17) but I am more interested in how weather really plays a role. Maybe I made the topic too broad, but there has to be a study on weather conditions and their impact on players. Statoroma chimed in saying get a subscription (I am signed for the longterm) and read the cheatsheets, but I need more than following cheatsheets. Dodds does a very good job, but I disagree many times and go with my opinion as I am confident in my abilities and how I watch games as much as any one elses. I watch almost every game (5 TV's in one room) and Tivo other games, but watching and gut feeling won't tell me as much as some stats that show that RB's run for 25% more yardage on windy days or stuff like that. I use the cheatsheets as a tie breaker or a reality check because maybe my thought process was flawed the first go around.Anyway, if no study has been shown to see how weather impacts our fantasy players, that it surely should be done!

 
1) What data do we have showing whether it is true that you should always start your studs in the playoffs? By stud, I would designate it as players who have always performed at a high level, even if slumping through the year.2) What about players who have had very good years going into the playoffs, if they have not been proven in the past, can you expect them to continue?3) How much does weather really impact games and what kind of weather?3a) How do different types of weather impact the passing game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing? 3b) How do different types of weather impact the running game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing? 3c) How do different types of weather impact your defense?Not looking for opinion, looking for data that has been compiled that can help all of us make good decisions.Let's see what we have!
Please do the research yourself and get back to us. Thanks.
 
1) What data do we have showing whether it is true that you should always start your studs in the playoffs? By stud, I would designate it as players who have always performed at a high level, even if slumping through the year.2) What about players who have had very good years going into the playoffs, if they have not been proven in the past, can you expect them to continue?3) How much does weather really impact games and what kind of weather?3a) How do different types of weather impact the passing game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing? 3b) How do different types of weather impact the running game and does it matter if it is cold, windy or raining or snowing? 3c) How do different types of weather impact your defense?Not looking for opinion, looking for data that has been compiled that can help all of us make good decisions.Let's see what we have!
Start the guys with the best PPG.
:thumbup:
 
oh and why are you doing this now? wouldnt a real shark have done this all season long? :confused:

 

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