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Good gawd that is a terrible site.

Read the next article about the 3 trade possibilities for Melo... oof.

Melo for Korver, Milsap and Carrol

Both Millsap and Carrol are going to be free agents so this would likely only work in a sign and trade, and getting a shooter like Korver doesn’t come very often.
Yeah, you can't do that.

Melo for Durant

:lmao:

 
If Cleveland (Lebron) wins this series, it will be unreal. If Lebron isn't on this team, without Irving and Love, they win what, 30-35 games?

As much as he wants to win one for Cleveland, he knows winning with this squad gives the naysayers pause and bumps his legacy a few notches.

 
If Cleveland (Lebron) wins this series, it will be unreal. If Lebron isn't on this team, without Irving and Love, they win what, 30-35 games?

As much as he wants to win one for Cleveland, he knows winning with this squad gives the naysayers pause and bumps his legacy a few notches.
30-35? Without their big 3 the Cavs would struggle to win 10-15.

 
If Cleveland (Lebron) wins this series, it will be unreal. If Lebron isn't on this team, without Irving and Love, they win what, 30-35 games?

As much as he wants to win one for Cleveland, he knows winning with this squad gives the naysayers pause and bumps his legacy a few notches.
I keep thinking that he has a legit shot here.

If it was against a strong vet team like the Spurs, I'd think twice about giving Cleveland much of a chance, but this Warriors team is a little bit too green. None of them have ever even been close to a championship yet, and there has been some real spaztic/panicky type play at times. Leaving the door open to a LeBron lead team and losing home court advantage is a HUGE blow to them.

I still think GSW is a better team with better players and can run Cleveland out of the gym on any given night, but this is a real series now and LeBron has at least been there/done that a couple of times now.

 
If Cleveland (Lebron) wins this series, it will be unreal. If Lebron isn't on this team, without Irving and Love, they win what, 30-35 games?

As much as he wants to win one for Cleveland, he knows winning with this squad gives the naysayers pause and bumps his legacy a few notches.
30-35? Without their big 3 the Cavs would struggle to win 10-15.
:lol:

They're awful... This really can be a defining moment for his legacy. Regardless he is up there, but this can really give him a huge bump.

 
If Cleveland (Lebron) wins this series, it will be unreal. If Lebron isn't on this team, without Irving and Love, they win what, 30-35 games?

As much as he wants to win one for Cleveland, he knows winning with this squad gives the naysayers pause and bumps his legacy a few notches.
30-35? Without their big 3 the Cavs would struggle to win 10-15.
Yup. In fact they had Irving most of last year, along with Thompson and Dellavadova and a roster that was otherwise about the same as this year's except for James and Love, and they won 33.

One thing is clear: it doesn't really matter who they decide to give the MVP award to every season. It's a nice thing to put on your mantle and the ceremony and the speech are cute, but LeBron James is the most valuable player in the league. He has been since 2008 and barring injury or some bizarre development he will be for the next 2-3 seasons at least.

 
It took the worst game of the season for the Warriors and probably worst game of Curry's career for the Cavs to win by 2 in OT. I've never been so unconcerned for a team that just lost HCA.

 
tommyGunZ said:
I'll say this, if LBJ somehow pulls this off, it's the greatest individual performance in team sports in my viewing lifetime (1980 forward).
I can't say that I have seen him play with this much intensity and desire in his career.

 
It took the worst game of the season for the Warriors and probably worst game of Curry's career for the Cavs to win by 2 in OT. I've never been so unconcerned for a team that just lost HCA.
Except for the fact that they haven't been playing this team all season long.

This is going to be a dogfight, and I don't know that Golden State is up for it. Their best two players are gunners, which isn't ideal for winning in the playoffs.

 
It took the worst game of the season for the Warriors and probably worst game of Curry's career for the Cavs to win by 2 in OT. I've never been so unconcerned for a team that just lost HCA.
They also benefited from a significant number of questionable calls down the stretch and from the surprising and hilarious return of the 2013-14 New York version of JR Smith.

Not that I disagree with your premise, just saying the surprises weren't totally one-sided.

 
Zigg said:
Insein said:
tom22406 said:
Lebron/Curry shoot 15-58 combined has to be a record for worst shooting performances by two superstars in a finals,no?
Closest I saw was game 4 92. Jordan and Clyde combined for 20-48. But it was still 53 pts.
I'm positive Jordan never shot below 90% in a playoff game, so I assume Jordan went 18/20, and Clyde was 2/28.
Jordan 11-26, Clyde 9-22

 
If Cleveland (Lebron) wins this series, it will be unreal. If Lebron isn't on this team, without Irving and Love, they win what, 30-35 games?

As much as he wants to win one for Cleveland, he knows winning with this squad gives the naysayers pause and bumps his legacy a few notches.
30-35? Without their big 3 the Cavs would struggle to win 10-15.
Yup. In fact they had Irving most of last year, along with Thompson and Dellavadova and a roster that was otherwise about the same as this year's except for James and Love, and they won 33.

One thing is clear: it doesn't really matter who they decide to give the MVP award to every season. It's a nice thing to put on your mantle and the ceremony and the speech are cute, but LeBron James is the most valuable player in the league. He has been since 2008 and barring injury or some bizarre development he will be for the next 2-3 seasons at least.
I agree with this... I'm def a Jordan fanboy and love to put him down, but man what a beast.

tommyGunZ said:
I'll say this, if LBJ somehow pulls this off, it's the greatest individual performance in team sports in my viewing lifetime (1980 forward).
I can't say that I have seen him play with this much intensity and desire in his career.
He's no dummy and knows what this series does for his legacy.

 
You Dellavedova lovers are crazy.

http://on.nba.com/1IxyK4j

3 PT attempts:

1. 'Dova on the bench. Curry decent look. Misses

2. 'Dova on the bench. Curry contested but still has space. Misses

3. 'Dova completely behind Curry. Curry good look, 'Dova falls on his ###. Misses

4. 'Dova loses his feet to a Curry pumpfake, but gets a hand up. Give him credit there. Misses

5. Curry rushes 3 pt attempt with :02 on SC. 'Dova in his face, but that is all because of team defense. Misses

6. 'Dova on bench. Double screen by GS. Make

7. Curry forces one up at end of half. Misses

8. 'Dova on his ### on other side of court. Curry pump fakes Mozgov badly, wide open look. Misses

9. 'Dova falls (seems to be a theme) on one knee, puts hand up. Curry good open look. Misses

10. 'Dova turns the ball over falling again (lol), 'Dova nowhere near Curry. Curry fires up a bad, contested shot against Thompson. Misses

11. 'Dova in the key nowhere near Curry. Curry wide open look with Smith trying to run after him. Ball basically goes in, rims around, comes out. Misses

12. Curry loses 'Dova on the screen (who does a 360 in confusion). Lights up James for a 3. Make

13. Curry has a reasonable look vs. James (after dribbling off his foot). 'Dova nowhere near Curry. Misses

14. 'Dova not guarding Curry. Curry has space vs Shumpert. Misses

15. Curry pumpfakes 'Dova in the air (is he playing 3rd grade rec ball?). 'Dova behind Curry (again). Curry misses again.

Curry had a bad game. It happens, but 'Dova had very, very little to do with his three point shooting woes. To think otherwise is absurd.

 
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You Dellavedova lovers are crazy.

http://on.nba.com/1IxyK4j

3 PT attempts:

1. 'Dova on the bench. Curry decent look. Misses

2. 'Dova on the bench. Curry contested but still has space. Misses

3. 'Dova completely behind Curry. Curry good look, 'Dova falls on his ###. Misses

4. 'Dova loses his feet to a Curry pumpfake, but gets a hand up. Give him credit there. Misses

5. Curry rushes 3 pt attempt with :02 on SC. 'Dova in his face, but that is all because of team defense. Misses

6. 'Dova on bench. Double screen by GS. Make

7. Curry forces one up at end of half. Misses

8. 'Dova on his ### on other side of court. Curry pump fakes Mozgov badly, wide open look. Misses

9. 'Dova falls (seems to be a theme) on one knee, puts hand up. Curry good open look. Misses

10. 'Dova turns the ball over falling again (lol), 'Dova nowhere near Curry. Curry fires up a bad, contested shot against Thompson. Misses

11. 'Dova in the key nowhere near Curry. Curry wide open look with Smith trying to run after him. Ball basically goes in, rims around, comes out. Misses

12. Curry loses 'Dova on the screen (who does a 360 in confusion). Lights up James for a 3. Make

13. Curry has a reasonable look vs. James (after dribbling off his foot). 'Dova nowhere near Curry. Misses

14. 'Dova not guarding Curry. Curry has space vs Shumpert. Misses

15. Curry pumpfakes 'Dova in the air (is he playing 3rd grade rec ball?). 'Dova behind Curry (again). Curry misses again.

Curry had a bad game. It happens, but 'Dova had very, very little to do with his three point shooting woes. To think otherwise is absurd.
:bs:

 
In the first four games vs. Houston, Curry shot 24/34 from 3 pt range. Basically since his fall, he shot 3/11 vs. Houston game 5 at home (Houston blows at defense). He is 4/21 in the finals. His shot has not been right since falling on his head which will end up being bad news for GS if it's not corrected asap. But to say it's all Cleveland's defense is laughable.

 
You Dellavedova lovers are crazy.

http://on.nba.com/1IxyK4j

3 PT attempts:

1. 'Dova on the bench. Curry decent look. Misses

2. 'Dova on the bench. Curry contested but still has space. Misses

3. 'Dova completely behind Curry. Curry good look, 'Dova falls on his ###. Misses

4. 'Dova loses his feet to a Curry pumpfake, but gets a hand up. Give him credit there. Misses

5. Curry rushes 3 pt attempt with :02 on SC. 'Dova in his face, but that is all because of team defense. Misses

6. 'Dova on bench. Double screen by GS. Make

7. Curry forces one up at end of half. Misses

8. 'Dova on his ### on other side of court. Curry pump fakes Mozgov badly, wide open look. Misses

9. 'Dova falls (seems to be a theme) on one knee, puts hand up. Curry good open look. Misses

10. 'Dova turns the ball over falling again (lol), 'Dova nowhere near Curry. Curry fires up a bad, contested shot against Thompson. Misses

11. 'Dova in the key nowhere near Curry. Curry wide open look with Smith trying to run after him. Ball basically goes in, rims around, comes out. Misses

12. Curry loses 'Dova on the screen (who does a 360 in confusion). Lights up James for a 3. Make

13. Curry has a reasonable look vs. James (after dribbling off his foot). 'Dova nowhere near Curry. Misses

14. 'Dova not guarding Curry. Curry has space vs Shumpert. Misses

15. Curry pumpfakes 'Dova in the air (is he playing 3rd grade rec ball?). 'Dova behind Curry (again). Curry misses again.

Curry had a bad game. It happens, but 'Dova had very, very little to do with his three point shooting woes. To think otherwise is absurd.
:bs:
Your internet version not modern enough to watch the video links I posted?

 
You Dellavedova lovers are crazy.

http://on.nba.com/1IxyK4j

3 PT attempts:

1. 'Dova on the bench. Curry decent look. Misses

2. 'Dova on the bench. Curry contested but still has space. Misses

3. 'Dova completely behind Curry. Curry good look, 'Dova falls on his ###. Misses

4. 'Dova loses his feet to a Curry pumpfake, but gets a hand up. Give him credit there. Misses

5. Curry rushes 3 pt attempt with :02 on SC. 'Dova in his face, but that is all because of team defense. Misses

6. 'Dova on bench. Double screen by GS. Make

7. Curry forces one up at end of half. Misses

8. 'Dova on his ### on other side of court. Curry pump fakes Mozgov badly, wide open look. Misses

9. 'Dova falls (seems to be a theme) on one knee, puts hand up. Curry good open look. Misses

10. 'Dova turns the ball over falling again (lol), 'Dova nowhere near Curry. Curry fires up a bad, contested shot against Thompson. Misses

11. 'Dova in the key nowhere near Curry. Curry wide open look with Smith trying to run after him. Ball basically goes in, rims around, comes out. Misses

12. Curry loses 'Dova on the screen (who does a 360 in confusion). Lights up James for a 3. Make

13. Curry has a reasonable look vs. James (after dribbling off his foot). 'Dova nowhere near Curry. Misses

14. 'Dova not guarding Curry. Curry has space vs Shumpert. Misses

15. Curry pumpfakes 'Dova in the air (is he playing 3rd grade rec ball?). 'Dova behind Curry (again). Curry misses again.

Curry had a bad game. It happens, but 'Dova had very, very little to do with his three point shooting woes. To think otherwise is absurd.
:bs:
Your internet version not modern enough to watch the video links I posted?
Its the intangibles that Delly brings. His heart, fire and passion are things you won't find in a boxscore. He is the soul behind what may be one of the biggest upsets in the history of sports.

 
In the first four games vs. Houston, Curry shot 24/34 from 3 pt range. Basically since his fall, he shot 3/11 vs. Houston game 5 at home (Houston blows at defense). He is 4/21 in the finals. His shot has not been right since falling on his head which will end up being bad news for GS if it's not corrected asap. But to say it's all Cleveland's defense is laughable.
Nobody said its all Cleveland's defense.

It is funny that every series their opponent shoots worse than normal and their fans keep saying there's no way we keep missing all those shots yet they keep missing all those shots. I guess they are just a really lucky defense.

 
You Dellavedova lovers are crazy.

http://on.nba.com/1IxyK4j

3 PT attempts:

1. 'Dova on the bench. Curry decent look. Misses

2. 'Dova on the bench. Curry contested but still has space. Misses

3. 'Dova completely behind Curry. Curry good look, 'Dova falls on his ###. Misses

4. 'Dova loses his feet to a Curry pumpfake, but gets a hand up. Give him credit there. Misses

5. Curry rushes 3 pt attempt with :02 on SC. 'Dova in his face, but that is all because of team defense. Misses

6. 'Dova on bench. Double screen by GS. Make

7. Curry forces one up at end of half. Misses

8. 'Dova on his ### on other side of court. Curry pump fakes Mozgov badly, wide open look. Misses

9. 'Dova falls (seems to be a theme) on one knee, puts hand up. Curry good open look. Misses

10. 'Dova turns the ball over falling again (lol), 'Dova nowhere near Curry. Curry fires up a bad, contested shot against Thompson. Misses

11. 'Dova in the key nowhere near Curry. Curry wide open look with Smith trying to run after him. Ball basically goes in, rims around, comes out. Misses

12. Curry loses 'Dova on the screen (who does a 360 in confusion). Lights up James for a 3. Make

13. Curry has a reasonable look vs. James (after dribbling off his foot). 'Dova nowhere near Curry. Misses

14. 'Dova not guarding Curry. Curry has space vs Shumpert. Misses

15. Curry pumpfakes 'Dova in the air (is he playing 3rd grade rec ball?). 'Dova behind Curry (again). Curry misses again.

Curry had a bad game. It happens, but 'Dova had very, very little to do with his three point shooting woes. To think otherwise is absurd.
:bs:
Your internet version not modern enough to watch the video links I posted?
Its the intangibles that Delly brings. His heart, fire and passion are things you won't find in a boxscore. He is the soul behind what may be one of the biggest upsets in the history of sports.
lol. If Curry is playing injured, it wouldn't be an upset.

 
It took the worst game of the season for the Warriors and probably worst game of Curry's career for the Cavs to win by 2 in OT. I've never been so unconcerned for a team that just lost HCA.
This.
GS could easily be down 0-2 going to Cle - I realize they are without Irving now but it's not like they didn't just win without him. I wouldn't be panicking if I'm a Warriors fan but you hae to be concerned. Especially as the role guys haven't done much and LeBron has shot the ball poorly.

 
In the first four games vs. Houston, Curry shot 24/34 from 3 pt range. Basically since his fall, he shot 3/11 vs. Houston game 5 at home (Houston blows at defense). He is 4/21 in the finals. His shot has not been right since falling on his head which will end up being bad news for GS if it's not corrected asap. But to say it's all Cleveland's defense is laughable.
Nobody said its all Cleveland's defense.

It is funny that every series their opponent shoots worse than normal and their fans keep saying there's no way we keep missing all those shots yet they keep missing all those shots. I guess they are just a really lucky defense.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Go compare every postseason FG% by team to their regular season FG% :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 
It took the worst game of the season for the Warriors and probably worst game of Curry's career for the Cavs to win by 2 in OT. I've never been so unconcerned for a team that just lost HCA.
This.
GS could easily be down 0-2 going to Cle - I realize they are without Irving now but it's not like they didn't just win without him. I wouldn't be panicking if I'm a Warriors fan but you hae to be concerned. Especially as the role guys haven't done much and LeBron has shot the ball poorly.
Also I think Blatt will watch the film and realize he can play Mozgov against the small Golden State lineup by putting him on Iggy, as Zach Lowe noted in his writeup of the game. If he'd done that last night I don't think the crazy comeback in the final three minutes would have ever happened. Get Mozgov in there late, he grabs and extra rebound or two and runs a PnR or two with LeBron on the other end and it's all over. It's easy to forget with everything that followed, but the Cavs consistently outplayed Golden State for all but the first five minutes and last three minutes or so of last night's game.

I still think the Warriors and in great shape and expect them to win the series, and part of the reason I think that is that the games have been close despite Curry's unsustainably bad shooting as Shamrock said. But there are lots of things that could have gone better for Cleveland, too.

 
Imagine what this place would be like if if was LBJ that had the game Curry had last night
If people watched how he played game one, no one would rightfully criticize him for the rest of the series.

If Curry is playing scared, then he deserves all the criticism in the world.

If Curry is hurt, he doesn't deserve criticism. The fact that he had his worst shooting game vs. Houston after he fell on his head makes me believe something is either mentally or physically wrong.

Cleveland is playing good defense, but it's not Curry shoots 2/15 because of it that good.

 
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Sure Curry will probably shoot better, but what if Shump, JR Smith, Jones and Dellavedova start shooting better from 3 as well? They are around 30% from three so far in the series.

 
I don't think either team played particularly well in the first two games and either one could be 2-0 right now. Curry had a terrible Game 2, and it is unlikely he will shoot that poorly again (and on the flip side Thompson might not play that well again either). While the Cavs defense played well overall, I don't think they were so phenomenal and restrictive that that was what caused Curry to shoot poorly. Just a bad night. It happens.

If GS shoots better and makes better decisions, CLE will not be able to just have LeBron stand somewhere and take 20 second chunks off the shot clock and then either chuck up a three or drive and get fouled (or not get fouled, but that is a different issue) at the end of games. They will need someone else to score consistently. Mozgov had a decent game, but I am not sure they can rely on him. Similarly, Smith takes a lot of shots and can make some now and again, but he is very inconsistent.

I still think GS wins the series, as I think they can adjust and score 100+ points in most of the remaining games. If that is the case, I am not sure CLE has enough scoring on their roster to get that many points even if LeBron gets 40. They got 56 points from everyone else in each of the first two games. I would have thought the Warriors would have come out and played better, but it seems like in both games they were happy to hang around and then flip the switch for the last 5 minutes. Needless to say that is not the best way to go about things . . .

 
Sure Curry will probably shoot better, but what if Shump, JR Smith, Jones and Dellavedova start shooting better from 3 as well? They are around 30% from three so far in the series.
It more likely that one of the best shooters in the game will shoot better again than 4 streaky shooters to all shoot better.

 
Pinnacle has approximately Cleveland +204 and Golden State -233 (rounded) which means they still have Golden State winning 68.0% of the time. Free money available for Cavs fans apparently.

 
If Cleveland (Lebron) wins this series, it will be unreal. If Lebron isn't on this team, without Irving and Love, they win what, 30-35 games?

As much as he wants to win one for Cleveland, he knows winning with this squad gives the naysayers pause and bumps his legacy a few notches.
His naysayers are out of ammo. Win or lose this series, what he has done with this Cavs team this season is unreal. Anyone still picking nits at his game is either stubborn, not watching the games, a troll and/or really, really stupid.

 
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If Cleveland (Lebron) wins this series, it will be unreal. If Lebron isn't on this team, without Irving and Love, they win what, 30-35 games?

As much as he wants to win one for Cleveland, he knows winning with this squad gives the naysayers pause and bumps his legacy a few notches.
His naysayers are out of ammo. Win or lose this series, what he has done with this Cavs team this season is unreal. Anyone still picking nits at his game is either stubborn, not watching the games, a troll and/or really, really stupid.
This is no place for well thought out reason guy.

 
Clev really needs to stop running the "Bron on the left wing and make a move with 7 seconds left on the shot clock" play.

It gets too easy to defend when they do it 10 times in a row.

Maybe try it from the right side once????

God this series is going to give me a heart attack, win or lose

 
Wait, are there still people with the "foregone conclusion" comments spewing off???

Yeah, the Warriors are the favorites, as they should be. 66% actually sounds about right.

But the "it's a sure thing for the WArriors" talk is just idiotic.

Foregone conclusion

 
Sure Curry will probably shoot better, but what if Shump, JR Smith, Jones and Dellavedova start shooting better from 3 as well? They are around 30% from three so far in the series.
It more likely that one of the best shooters in the game will shoot better again than 4 streaky shooters to all shoot better.
They don't ALL have to shoot better.
Exactly. And don't many say...."role players" play better at home....

 
NBA deems Iggy non-call and Green non-call as incorrectly not-called.

But then again, maybe they just want to see what they want to see.

 

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