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Titans homers - LenDale White (1 Viewer)

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I have White on a few of my squads and was wondering if he's looked as bad as the stats would indicate. It's nice that he's getting a lot of carries, but his YPC has been pitiful so far. Has he looked bad or do you blame his struggles on the supporting cast?

 
I have White on a few of my squads and was wondering if he's looked as bad as the stats would indicate. It's nice that he's getting a lot of carries, but his YPC has been pitiful so far. Has he looked bad or do you blame his struggles on the supporting cast?
He has a very good oline. He is HORRIBLE. I wouldnt be surprised to see Henry play this week and look alot better. he is one the worst starting RB's i have ever seen.
 
He's just so slow to the hole and really doesn't break any tackles (goes down pretty easily....to the point you almost wonder if he's going down before he's being hit). I think he'll continue to see carries. I definitely think he's got to have a change of pace.

 
I have White on a few of my squads and was wondering if he's looked as bad as the stats would indicate. It's nice that he's getting a lot of carries, but his YPC has been pitiful so far. Has he looked bad or do you blame his struggles on the supporting cast?
The staff has no real problems with the guy.People think Brown has looked so much better...but outside of his first game, he has been pretty ho hum too.Fisher is not the kind of guy to worry about YPC. With Brown dinged, look for White to get 20-25 carries for a while.
 
White is horrible outside of short yardage, but he's all the Titans have at this time.

Although the C-Hen era might be beginning.

 
Watching White run is somewhat comical. On every carry he slowly falls forward into the line for between 1-3 yards. Every carry. Thing is though that Fisher keeps running the ball so after 30 carries White has 60 yards and a TD...

As someone said, I don't think Fisher cares as much about YPC as much as he cares about clock control, not turning the ball over, and grinding out those first downs.

 
benm3218 said:
EBF said:
I have White on a few of my squads and was wondering if he's looked as bad as the stats would indicate. It's nice that he's getting a lot of carries, but his YPC has been pitiful so far. Has he looked bad or do you blame his struggles on the supporting cast?
He has a very good oline. He is HORRIBLE. I wouldnt be surprised to see Henry play this week and look alot better. he is one the worst starting RB's i have ever seen.
Do you think Henry against Houston is a better play than Rhodes this week? I think Lendale will get the bulk, obv, but just wondering what room there is for Henry to navigate back there?
 
benm3218 said:
EBF said:
I have White on a few of my squads and was wondering if he's looked as bad as the stats would indicate. It's nice that he's getting a lot of carries, but his YPC has been pitiful so far. Has he looked bad or do you blame his struggles on the supporting cast?
He has a very good oline. He is HORRIBLE. I wouldnt be surprised to see Henry play this week and look alot better. he is one the worst starting RB's i have ever seen.
It's really too bad that White does not just simply shape up (literally...like as in drop 25 lbs). He has shown he can play when lighter. Maybe when Henry gets some action and Brown gets healthy, they will deactivate LW. If that doesn't motivate him, nothing will.
 
benm3218 said:
EBF said:
I have White on a few of my squads and was wondering if he's looked as bad as the stats would indicate. It's nice that he's getting a lot of carries, but his YPC has been pitiful so far. Has he looked bad or do you blame his struggles on the supporting cast?
He has a very good oline. He is HORRIBLE. I wouldnt be surprised to see Henry play this week and look alot better. he is one the worst starting RB's i have ever seen.
Do you think Henry against Houston is a better play than Rhodes this week? I think Lendale will get the bulk, obv, but just wondering what room there is for Henry to navigate back there?
Henry is a very sneaky play this week if Brown is out, which is likely. Henry has the speed to take the ball the distance on any play...
 
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As someone said, I don't think Fisher cares as much about YPC as much as he cares about clock control, not turning the ball over, and grinding out those first downs.
Yes. Just think back to Eddie George. Even in his heyday, George had about 3.7 yards per carry..
 
benm3218 said:
EBF said:
I have White on a few of my squads and was wondering if he's looked as bad as the stats would indicate. It's nice that he's getting a lot of carries, but his YPC has been pitiful so far. Has he looked bad or do you blame his struggles on the supporting cast?
He has a very good oline. He is HORRIBLE. I wouldnt be surprised to see Henry play this week and look alot better. he is one the worst starting RB's i have ever seen.
Do you think Henry against Houston is a better play than Rhodes this week? I think Lendale will get the bulk, obv, but just wondering what room there is for Henry to navigate back there?
Henry is a very sneaky play this week if Brown does not go. He has the speed to take the ball the distance on any play...
IMO...no...Henry has no chance of seeing any more than about 5-10 carries. And that is being generous. There is a reason he has been inactive. And a reason that Fisher continues to give White so many carries.Though, if chosing between henry and rhodes...your team is in trouble.
 
benm3218 said:
EBF said:
I have White on a few of my squads and was wondering if he's looked as bad as the stats would indicate. It's nice that he's getting a lot of carries, but his YPC has been pitiful so far. Has he looked bad or do you blame his struggles on the supporting cast?
He has a very good oline. He is HORRIBLE. I wouldnt be surprised to see Henry play this week and look alot better. he is one the worst starting RB's i have ever seen.
Do you think Henry against Houston is a better play than Rhodes this week? I think Lendale will get the bulk, obv, but just wondering what room there is for Henry to navigate back there?
Henry is a very sneaky play this week if Brown does not go. He has the speed to take the ball the distance on any play...
He also has the vision to get tackled for a safety any play.
 
benm3218 said:
EBF said:
I have White on a few of my squads and was wondering if he's looked as bad as the stats would indicate. It's nice that he's getting a lot of carries, but his YPC has been pitiful so far. Has he looked bad or do you blame his struggles on the supporting cast?
He has a very good oline. He is HORRIBLE. I wouldnt be surprised to see Henry play this week and look alot better. he is one the worst starting RB's i have ever seen.
Do you think Henry against Houston is a better play than Rhodes this week? I think Lendale will get the bulk, obv, but just wondering what room there is for Henry to navigate back there?
Henry is a very sneaky play this week if Brown does not go. He has the speed to take the ball the distance on any play...
IMO...no...Henry has no chance of seeing any more than about 5-10 carries. And that is being generous. There is a reason he has been inactive. And a reason that Fisher continues to give White so many carries.Though, if chosing between henry and rhodes...your team is in trouble.
Won't deny that :no:
 
As someone said, I don't think Fisher cares as much about YPC as much as he cares about clock control, not turning the ball over, and grinding out those first downs.
Yes. Just think back to Eddie George. Even in his heyday, George had about 3.7 yards per carry..
And TRUST me Eddie looks like LT compared to Lendale. The other posters are right, Fisher cares about clock control and BLOCKING. Lendale can block, as he is a chubby tight end masquerading as a RB. One play he made I liked, He laid a licking on a defender down near the goalline about 3 or 4 weeks ago, it was a massive block. Put the guy on the ground hard. But he lumbers horribly. :shrug:
 
I watch Lendale White play and think to myself, "If a sack of potatoes had legs, Lendale would be it"

 
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Knowing how wacky things are in the NFL, I actually won't be surprised if Henry takes this job. White and Brown aren't getting it done. Can Henry really be any worse? I've dogged him since the moment he was drafted and I still have a lot of doubts about him, but he has an opportunity to take this job. He would be a nice boom-or-bust dynasty acquisition if you can get him for cheap.

 
The Titans will make another big push for Michael Turner next year if none of these guys establish themselves.

 
I wonder if all these Henry lovers actually watched this guy play in college. Saying he is horrible would be an understatement.

 
After injuries to Rudi and Carnell, Lendale has actually been my de facto RB1 :confused:

I watched him run against the Bucs last week and he is soooooo slooooooow.

He was an absolute beast at USC. Like someone else said, it's a shame he can't lose some weight and regain his old college form. Of course he'd be running against NFL defenses instead of Cal and Stanford, but at least he'd be more effective than he is now. As long as he gets 6 each week, I guess I can't complain.

 
As someone said, I don't think Fisher cares as much about YPC as much as he cares about clock control, not turning the ball over, and grinding out those first downs.
Yes. Just think back to Eddie George. Even in his heyday, George had about 3.7 yards per carry..
And TRUST me Eddie looks like LT compared to Lendale. The other posters are right, Fisher cares about clock control and BLOCKING. Lendale can block, as he is a chubby tight end masquerading as a RB. One play he made I liked, He laid a licking on a defender down near the goalline about 3 or 4 weeks ago, it was a massive block. Put the guy on the ground hard. But he lumbers horribly. :goodposting:
Umm...no he does not look like LT compared to White.While he has not looked great. White has looked ok.Not breaking big runs. But generally will gain 3-4 if not hit in the backfield.
 
Knowing how wacky things are in the NFL, I actually won't be surprised if Henry takes this job. White and Brown aren't getting it done. Can Henry really be any worse? I've dogged him since the moment he was drafted and I still have a lot of doubts about him, but he has an opportunity to take this job. He would be a nice boom-or-bust dynasty acquisition if you can get him for cheap.
If he cannot block...yes he can be worse.Again, very telling that not one coach has said a thing about being disappointed with White's play so far.
 
After injuries to Rudi and Carnell, Lendale has actually been my de facto RB1 :goodposting: I watched him run against the Bucs last week and he is soooooo slooooooow.He was an absolute beast at USC. Like someone else said, it's a shame he can't lose some weight and regain his old college form. Of course he'd be running against NFL defenses instead of Cal and Stanford, but at least he'd be more effective than he is now. As long as he gets 6 each week, I guess I can't complain.
As some have mentioned he is not much heavier...if any...than he was in college.
 
As someone said, I don't think Fisher cares as much about YPC as much as he cares about clock control, not turning the ball over, and grinding out those first downs.
Yes. Just think back to Eddie George. Even in his heyday, George had about 3.7 yards per carry..
And TRUST me Eddie looks like LT compared to Lendale. The other posters are right, Fisher cares about clock control and BLOCKING. Lendale can block, as he is a chubby tight end masquerading as a RB. One play he made I liked, He laid a licking on a defender down near the goalline about 3 or 4 weeks ago, it was a massive block. Put the guy on the ground hard. But he lumbers horribly. :goodposting:
Umm...no he does not look like LT compared to White.While he has not looked great. White has looked ok.Not breaking big runs. But generally will gain 3-4 if not hit in the backfield.
Eddie George in his prime blows Lendale out of the water. That is my point. Sorry if the LT analogy was over the top.
 
benm3218 said:
EBF said:
I have White on a few of my squads and was wondering if he's looked as bad as the stats would indicate. It's nice that he's getting a lot of carries, but his YPC has been pitiful so far. Has he looked bad or do you blame his struggles on the supporting cast?
He has a very good oline. He is HORRIBLE. I wouldnt be surprised to see Henry play this week and look alot better. he is one the worst starting RB's i have ever seen.
It's really too bad that White does not just simply shape up (literally...like as in drop 25 lbs). He has shown he can play when lighter. Maybe when Henry gets some action and Brown gets healthy, they will deactivate LW. If that doesn't motivate him, nothing will.
This is the lightest he's been since before even his final year at USC
 
I have watched Lendale and have noticed that he does get positive yards practically every carry because he can land forward due to his weight, running style.

I think that is important for Fisher and allowing there to be manageable 2nd and 3rd downs and keeping possession and the drives moving forward.

Coaches aren't interested in a RB who will dance behind the LOS, or not get positive yards but can bust a long one open once in awhiel. That one long is great, but if it comes at the expense of a couple drive killing runs, is your team really better off?

 
I have watched Lendale and have noticed that he does get positive yards practically every carry because he can land forward due to his weight, running style.

I think that is important for Fisher and allowing there to be manageable 2nd and 3rd downs and keeping possession and the drives moving forward.

Coaches aren't interested in a RB who will dance behind the LOS, or not get positive yards but can bust a long one open once in awhiel. That one long is great, but if it comes at the expense of a couple drive killing runs, is your team really better off?
Evidently Sean Payton is interested in those types of RBs.
 
I have watched Lendale and have noticed that he does get positive yards practically every carry because he can land forward due to his weight, running style.I think that is important for Fisher and allowing there to be manageable 2nd and 3rd downs and keeping possession and the drives moving forward.Coaches aren't interested in a RB who will dance behind the LOS, or not get positive yards but can bust a long one open once in awhiel. That one long is great, but if it comes at the expense of a couple drive killing runs, is your team really better off?
Bingo.Fisher does not want Young in alot of 3rd and longs.He also wants to control the ball and the clock.Its not about just having a good YPC with him.
 
LenDale is lumbering in at 3.2 ypc for 87 carries.

However, if you split out the 10 carries at or inside the opponents 5 yard line (10 for 13, 3 TDs), he is now at 77 carries for 263 yards, which is close to a 3.5 ypc average. Still quite unspectacular, but not surprising given his role (and rolls).

 
White scores poorly in FO's stats. If you buy their statistics, that means White's problems can't be explained away by:

1. lack of long runs

2. disporportionate # of carries inside the 5

Here's the link

In fact fridayfrenzy's post does a pretty good job re-stating the argument made in favor of DVOA whenever posters complain about it on their pages.

 
Biggest issue with Tenn's running game right now is lack of running by Vince. Teams know Tenn will pound it so they stack the line. Early on, the running game still succeeded because teams (esp. Jax) were overreacting to the threat of Vince running like he did last year. Once teams realized Vince is not really running like that this year for whatever reason, they are able to stop the RB's. With Vince's injury, I'd expect more of the ame this week.

 

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