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TJ Duckett - Lelie - Graham 3 way (1 Viewer)

I wonder how long it will be until every running back in the league is mentioned as possibly going to Denver. We've got to be at least halfway there by now.

 
If Duckett ever became a Bronco... this board might explode with excitement.
This board would explode with excitement if my grandmother become a RB in Den.
What are her measureables? Is she a one cut runner or does she dance too much?
Asking more than one cut would be a dicey proposition. She's got a wiked stiff-arm. :thumbup:
 
This would be major for one of my teams, I have Duckett, Norwood, Lelie and Bell on the same roster...

3 Plusses and 1 minus would work for me...

 
Atlanta's been trying to move Duckett for a while now. They proposed Duckett for Lelie straight up on draft day, but Denver declined. I guess it depends on what the draft pick is, since this trade is, from Denver's standpoint, just the Lelie for Duckett trade that they deemed unsatisfactory, with Graham for a draft pick thrown in for good measure.

Also, while I usually speak out against the whole "(Insert Maligned RB Here) would be FANTASTIC for Denver's system!" stuff that people bring up all the time, I do actually think Duckett would be a pretty good fit in Denver. I said two seasons ago that I expected him to run better behind the Gibbs scheme than Dunn did. I'd be very concerned about Denver landing him, though, since he was PUTRID last season. Also, I wonder what the point would be, because I don't think he would even beat out Dayne on the depth chart. If Denver honestly thought he would have, they probably would have completed the Duckett for Lelie trade on draft day.

 
If I'm thinking correctly, Denver had their struggles on the goal line in the past. I think Duckett would pretty much shore that up, even if it's just a goal line role. I know Shannahan hasn't been a rbbc coach except for last year, but it makes sense.

 
For all the Daniel Graham trade rumors bouncing around I have not read one thing locally about him being dealt. The Pats are very tight-lipped so anything is possible but I find it hard to believe that if there was any merit behind the messageboard chatter that it would not be reported locally.

 
slow time of year news, no clue why folks obsess on Graham. Both the Falcs and Broncos don't seem inclined to keep Lelie or Duckett so....I guess.

What about all LHucks' Dayne pimping though? will that all be wasted?

 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.

 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
and what has that done for him?He and William Green were considerred lesser first round RBs when they were drafted and I wonderred why. I don't anymore, kudos to those draft niks for those predictions

 
:no: Shanny said it isn't going to happen.

It is interesting to note how bad Lelie has seemed to seal his fat in Denver as it now appears Lelie is not only being past on the depth charts by Smith and walker, but , Darius Watts is looking good and could be the WR#3.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3916009
I'm not sure but maybe a Bronco fan can assist, I believe Watts always looks good in shorts and it's with the pads on that's his prob
 
slow time of year news, no clue why folks obsess on Graham. Both the Falcs and Broncos don't seem inclined to keep Lelie or Duckett so....I guess.

What about all LHucks' Dayne pimping though? will that all be wasted?
I don't know. I'd have to hear what Shanny said about Duckett after he was acquired (whether he called Duckett quality depth or said that he was the new #1 guy). Personally, I'm of the opinion that if Duckett really would pass Dayne on the depth chart, Denver would have accepted the Duckett-for-Lelie swap during the draft.
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
Again, he's NOT a horrible short-yardage back. He's a very good short yardage back. He led the league with a 61% success rate in 2004, which means he was stuffed or stopped short less than any other RB in the entire NFL. That's pretty impressive.With that said, he was PUTRID last season, which is a huge cause for concern in my eyes. Not just random regression to the mean bad, but PUTRID.

:no: Shanny said it isn't going to happen.

It is interesting to note how bad Lelie has seemed to seal his fat in Denver as it now appears Lelie is not only being past on the depth charts by Smith and walker, but , Darius Watts is looking good and could be the WR#3.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3916009
I'm not sure but maybe a Bronco fan can assist, I believe Watts always looks good in shorts and it's with the pads on that's his prob
He does indeed always look good in shorts, but the biggest problem with him in Denver has been his horrible case of the dropsies. Theoretically, pads wouldn't cause him to drop any more balls than shorts. If his hands have really improved that much this offseason (and as pleasantly surprised as Shanahan has been, they must have REALLY improved), then that could be a very good sign for Watts.Shanahan actually made a point of singling out Watts as the single biggest pleasant surprise so far this offseason. That's a bold statement, especially considering Shanahan was the guy who demoted him to WR5 last offseason, and considering that Shanahan is pretty familiar with his tendency to dazzle in camps.

 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
let's see, which looks better.2003- present:

A: 1668 yards, 27 TDs, 172 receiving

B: 449 yards, 2 TDs; 24 receiving

Duckett may not be setting Atlanta on fire, but he's a lot better than people give him credit for. Certainly better than Dayne.

ETA: Duckett owner in 2 leagues, I'd love for this to come true. I honestly don't buy it, but it's possible.

 
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Theoretically, pads wouldn't cause him to drop any more balls than shorts.
yes they will if he's using his body to catch the ball and not solely his hands. I don't know if that's an issue with him...just sayin'
 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
WTF are you talking about...39 carries for 43 yards? Duckett ran for 380 yards last season.
 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
When you post childish comments like this try to get your facts straight. Nice attempt at fluff, you sure duckett had 43 yards last year? Where you get that number? Cause it's wrong. :thumbdown:
 
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
Give that credit to Vick and the o-line. (ATL is ranked as an elite rushing offense - none of that is due to Duckett) I've seen Vick get hit on a normal hand off. The end is always chasing down Vick because of the bootlegs. Sure helps when the LB/DE is shading/running at Vick on a run play. Regardless, I still maintain he's a bad short yardage back. He runs like Chris Brown. He almost never falls forward. He constantly gets pushed back on initial contact. He loves to break it way outside. He's a big man who likes to avoid contact and use his speed. He SHOULD be a great short yardage back. He's quick, big, strong. But he plays like he's 190lbs.Maybe I'm biased. But his style does not match his body. I'd rather give Dunn the ball on short yardage or goal line. And it looks like the Falcons agree.There's lots of times stats don't match reality. Dillon had a bunch of goal line TDs last year. He's a below average short yardage/goal line RB.
 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
WTF are you talking about...39 carries for 43 yards? Duckett ran for 380 yards last season.
:lmao: 43 yards in 3 games (14-16), but where do you get the 39 carries from? he had 29 in those games.
 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
WTF are you talking about...39 carries for 43 yards? Duckett ran for 380 yards last season.
:lmao: 43 yards in 3 games (14-16), but where do you get the 39 carries from? he had 29 in those games.
Ended? The Season? Last 5 games. Instead of :lmao: you shoudl have keep looking.Yikes.

4 attempts for 4 yards

10 attempts for 13 yards

8 attempts for -2

11 attempts 32 yards

4 attempts -6 yards

37 (close enough) attempts for 41 yards in the final 5 games. He was GARBAGE.

 
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When you post childish comments like this try to get your facts straight. Nice attempt at fluff, you sure duckett had 43 yards last year? Where you get that number? Cause it's wrong. :thumbdown:
Uhh. Try reading instead of spamming fluff piece. Last 5 games, 37 attempts, 43 yards. I said ENDED the 2005 season. Final 5 games = ended. If you need me to clear anything else up let me know.

 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
WTF are you talking about...39 carries for 43 yards? Duckett ran for 380 yards last season.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards.
Last 5 games, 37 attempts, 41 yards.
 
When you post childish comments like this try to get your facts straight. Nice attempt at fluff, you sure duckett had 43 yards last year? Where you get that number? Cause it's wrong.  :thumbdown:
Uhh. Try reading instead of spamming fluff piece. Last 5 games, 37 attempts, 43 yards. I said ENDED the 2005 season. Final 5 games = ended. If you need me to clear anything else up let me know.
No reason to get snippy tough guy. :no:
 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
WTF are you talking about...39 carries for 43 yards? Duckett ran for 380 yards last season.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards.
Last 5 games, 37 attempts, 41 yards.
When someone says that a person ended the season with X yards, he NORMALLY means his total of yards for the season. Was it too hard for you to say he had 41 yards in his last 5 games? :rolleyes:
 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
WTF are you talking about...39 carries for 43 yards? Duckett ran for 380 yards last season.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards.
Last 5 games, 37 attempts, 41 yards.
When someone says that a person ended the season with X yards, he NORMALLY means his total of yards for the season. Was it too hard for you to say he had 41 yards in his last 5 games? :rolleyes:
If I said LJ ended 2005 with 40 carries, 250 yards, and 5 tds. You'd reply with

WTF R U DRUNK MAN!!! He had 1800 yards!!!

A little common sense should kick in at some point.

 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
WTF are you talking about...39 carries for 43 yards? Duckett ran for 380 yards last season.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards.
Last 5 games, 37 attempts, 41 yards.
When someone says that a person ended the season with X yards, he NORMALLY means his total of yards for the season. Was it too hard for you to say he had 41 yards in his last 5 games? :rolleyes:
If I said LJ ended 2005 with 40 carries, 250 yards, and 5 tds. You'd reply with

WTF R U DRUNK MAN!!! He had 1800 yards!!!

A little common sense should kick in at some point.
gang-wars, you're wrong here, though it's just a semantics snafu, not a reflection on the worth(lessness) of TJ Duckett.
 
I wonder how long it will be until every running back in the league is mentioned as possibly going to Denver. We've got to be at least halfway there by now.
Well, then Denver is halfway to the Houston point. ;)
 
Darius Watts has one normal human hand and some other anatomical structure that resembles a claw to catch the ball with. He will never be a good NFL wide receiver.

 
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sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
WTF are you talking about...39 carries for 43 yards? Duckett ran for 380 yards last season.
:lmao: 43 yards in 3 games (14-16), but where do you get the 39 carries from? he had 29 in those games.
Ended? The Season? Last 5 games. Instead of :lmao: you shoudl have keep looking.Yikes.

4 attempts for 4 yards

10 attempts for 13 yards

8 attempts for -2

11 attempts 32 yards

4 attempts -6 yards

37 (close enough) attempts for 41 yards in the final 5 games. He was GARBAGE.
If you're going to use a stat, not recognizeable to most (if not all), at least get it right.
 
I can't think of anything less pleasant to watch than a Duckett - Lelie - Graham three-way.
Oh God, my side is hurting after reading that. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Its good to see I'm not the only one laughing uncontrollably after seeing that :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: You don't even need a disturbing mental image for the hilarious effect to set in :ph34r:

 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
WTF are you talking about...39 carries for 43 yards? Duckett ran for 380 yards last season.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards.
Last 5 games, 37 attempts, 41 yards.
When someone says that a person ended the season with X yards, he NORMALLY means his total of yards for the season. Was it too hard for you to say he had 41 yards in his last 5 games? :rolleyes:
If I said LJ ended 2005 with 40 carries, 250 yards, and 5 tds. You'd reply with

WTF R U DRUNK MAN!!! He had 1800 yards!!!

A little common sense should kick in at some point.
That's what I and many other would say actually. You were wrong, get over it.
 
You guys can keep arguing over semantics, but the fact remains that Duckett's play dropped off last year in general and really went down at the end of the year, but Atlanta, as a whole, didn't play well in December. What does that mean? Who knows, but as a Broncos fan, I am not sure what to think of this possible trade.

 
You guys can keep arguing over semantics, but the fact remains that Duckett's play dropped off last year in general and really went down at the end of the year, but Atlanta, as a whole, didn't play well in December. What does that mean? Who knows, but as a Broncos fan, I am not sure what to think of this possible trade.
Their play dropped off last year because they have to play with one of the worst QB's in the league.
 
sorry for the thoughtless post, but duckett sucks. when are people going to realize this?
He led the league in success rate in 2004, with a ridiculous 61%.
He also ended 2005 with 39 carries for 43 yards. With an aging Dunn, Denver running system, Falcons don't even want to give him a SHOT at being the main guy. He works out on his own, barely attends any offseason programs. The guy runs straight up, he's horrible short yardage RB (for his size). He gets knocked back constantly. He tries to bust it to the outside far too often. When the rush hits him, he turns to the side instead of lowering his shoulder. Dunn always misses a few games, but they're going to go into 06 with Norwood as the rb2? That says what they think of Duckett. I've seen every falcon game the last 3 years, and Duckett will give you flashes, but then will disappear for weeks at a time. Like Scott, it's time for Duckett to move on.
WTF are you talking about...39 carries for 43 yards? Duckett ran for 380 yards last season.
:lmao: 43 yards in 3 games (14-16), but where do you get the 39 carries from? he had 29 in those games.
Ended? The Season? Last 5 games. Instead of :lmao: you shoudl have keep looking.Yikes.

4 attempts for 4 yards

10 attempts for 13 yards

8 attempts for -2

11 attempts 32 yards

4 attempts -6 yards

37 (close enough) attempts for 41 yards in the final 5 games. He was GARBAGE.
If you're going to use a stat, not recognizeable to most (if not all), at least get it right.
You were too busy spamming :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: to even check properly. It was one line in a 10 line rant about how much Duckett sucks. Enough with the straw man stuff. If there's one line you can highlight, spam emoticons, shout WTF WTF, and make yourself look smart, people jump all over it. While completely ignoring the point, Duckett is worthless.

 

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