TO meets with Broncos (1 Viewer)

[gbill2004]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-b...ov=ap&type=lgns

Owens meets with Broncos

By EDDIE PELLS, AP National Writer

January 30, 2006

Terrell Owens and his agent visited Denver on Monday, talking with coach Mike Shanahan to see if he might be a fit with the Broncos.

Owens is under contract with Philadelphia, but the Eagles have given him permission to seek a trade.

Denver is a suitor, and a person familiar with the negotiations, who spoke on condition he not be identified because there was no deal, told The Associated Press the volatile receiver had a good meeting with Shanahan.

Owens and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, were shown by KCNC-TV at the Denver airport on their way out of town Monday night.

Broncos spokesman Jim Saccomano, working at the Super Bowl in Detroit, said he could not comment because he had no knowledge of the visit.

 

[Sweet Love]

At some point he will understand he is an #### (he has to, doesn't he??) and he will mend his ways. When he does, the team that owns will reap the benes.So sayeth the Sweet Love.

 

[madsklz]

I guess after seeing what TO did to Champ this year , the Broncos figured they could use a man as gifted as TO.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

I guess after seeing what TO did to Champ this year , the Broncos figured they could use a baby as gifted as TO.

Fixed

 

[Jimmy James]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

 

[diesel7982]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Why on earth would Denver want to trade for TO at his current contract? Or trade for TO at all? And give up compensation equal to about a 2nd and a 4th for him?

 

[-OZ-]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Why on earth would Denver want to trade for TO at his current contract? Or trade for TO at all? And give up compensation equal to about a 2nd and a 4th for him?

Somebody will. Denver can use a WR with TO's skills. So can KC. Could get into a bidding war if Herm wants TO (Peterson said no when Vermiel was here, but that could change now)

 

[Jimmy James]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Why on earth would Denver want to trade for TO at his current contract? Or trade for TO at all? And give up compensation equal to about a 2nd and a 4th for him?

I didn't want to pull out a chart to get my point across -- is that really a 2nd and a 4th worth of value lost there? I was trying to make the point that Philadelphia wasn't going to get anything for him.I don't think the current contract is a big deal unless the PA is as inflexible as the baseball PA is about reworking contracts to fundamentally alter the value. Also, I'm not so sure that Owens wouldn't be a bargain based on that contract. Denver wouldn't have any signing bonus to worry about eating, so they could cut him at will.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Sounds like the Eagles will be lucky to get a late round pick at this point.link

His off-field actions aside, Owens is still regarded as a premier playmaker, one who would draw interest from a core group of 5-6 teams if he is released. Rosenhaus has been able to orchestrate trades under difficult circumstances in the past, but finding a franchise that is inclined to surrender even a low-round draft choice for Owens was seen as maybe expecting too much. Clearly, though, the Broncos have some degree of interest.

The Eagles could, of course, arrange a trade on their own. But given Owens' contract status, and the likelihood any new franchise acquiring him would probably need him to rework his existing deal, his cooperation would be necessary.

I'm sure Drew will come up with something.

 

[guest 54788]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Why on earth would Denver want to trade for TO at his current contract? Or trade for TO at all? And give up compensation equal to about a 2nd and a 4th for him?

Trading for him causes Philly to eat the pro-rated portion of his signing bonus immediately and Denver can cut TO at any time with no cap implications. They will likely negotiate to lower the trade costs

 

[Garts]

Maybe Anderson...Philly needs a power runner.

 

[diesel7982]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Why on earth would Denver want to trade for TO at his current contract? Or trade for TO at all? And give up compensation equal to about a 2nd and a 4th for him?

Trading for him causes Philly to eat the pro-rated portion of his signing bonus immediately and Denver can cut TO at any time with no cap implications. They will likely negotiate to lower the trade costs

Except that the Eagles will be trading him before his $6mil roster bonus is due, and whatever team that trades for him(very very unlikely to happen) will be on the hook for it.

 

[diesel7982]

Maybe Anderson...Philly needs a power runner.

We're not playing Madden here.

 

[Jimmy James]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Why on earth would Denver want to trade for TO at his current contract? Or trade for TO at all? And give up compensation equal to about a 2nd and a 4th for him?

Trading for him causes Philly to eat the pro-rated portion of his signing bonus immediately and Denver can cut TO at any time with no cap implications. They will likely negotiate to lower the trade costs

Except that the Eagles will be trading him before his $6mil roster bonus is due, and whatever team that trades for him(very very unlikely to happen) will be on the hook for it.

Can't Owens agree to defer or cancel such a roster bonus?

 

[Garts]

Maybe Anderson...Philly needs a power runner.

We're not playing Madden here.

Anderson and a pick.....or maybe Cecil Sapp, because with Owens attitude, that's about what he's worth.

 

[diesel7982]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Why on earth would Denver want to trade for TO at his current contract? Or trade for TO at all? And give up compensation equal to about a 2nd and a 4th for him?

Trading for him causes Philly to eat the pro-rated portion of his signing bonus immediately and Denver can cut TO at any time with no cap implications. They will likely negotiate to lower the trade costs

Except that the Eagles will be trading him before his $6mil roster bonus is due, and whatever team that trades for him(very very unlikely to happen) will be on the hook for it.

Can't Owens agree to defer or cancel such a roster bonus?

Yes. But,

Why on Earth would he do that when he knows the Eagles will release him before the bonus is due and let him be a free agent?

 

[cstu]

at the thought of Jammer trying to stop TO.

 

[Demons]

Right now I'm hoping it happens.By the way, I'm a Raiders fan.

 

[Not Really Mel Kiper]

Nobody will trade for Owens when they know they can get him without giving up draft picks. He will be released as soon as they are able to release him.

 

[Jimmy James]

Yes.

But,

Why on Earth would he do that when he knows the Eagles will release him before the bonus is due and let him be a free agent?

It could be seen as a good way to show some good faith on his part. He could also agree to defer it just one season, meaning a team he has played well for would need to pay it to him next season. A lot of things have to happen just right for a trade to work out, and the Eagles surely won't get much out of it. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility, though.

 

[diesel7982]

Yes.

But,

Why on Earth would he do that when he knows the Eagles will release him before the bonus is due and let him be a free agent?

It could be seen as a good way to show some good faith on his part. He could also agree to defer it just one season, meaning a team he has played well for would need to pay it to him next season. A lot of things have to happen just right for a trade to work out, and the Eagles surely won't get much out of it. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility, though.

You think Drew Rosenhaus is going to advise his client to defer Drew's commission?

 

[Jimmy James]

Yes.

But,

Why on Earth would he do that when he knows the Eagles will release him before the bonus is due and let him be a free agent?

It could be seen as a good way to show some good faith on his part. He could also agree to defer it just one season, meaning a team he has played well for would need to pay it to him next season. A lot of things have to happen just right for a trade to work out, and the Eagles surely won't get much out of it. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility, though.

You think Drew Rosenhaus is going to advise his client to defer Drew's commission?

Stranger things have happened. We might just find out that Drew thinks he has enough money and believes both his and TO's reputations could be better served by acting as though they aren't selfish jerks.

 

[diesel7982]

Yes.

But,

Why on Earth would he do that when he knows the Eagles will release him before the bonus is due and let him be a free agent?

It could be seen as a good way to show some good faith on his part. He could also agree to defer it just one season, meaning a team he has played well for would need to pay it to him next season. A lot of things have to happen just right for a trade to work out, and the Eagles surely won't get much out of it. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility, though.

You think Drew Rosenhaus is going to advise his client to defer Drew's commission?

Stranger things have happened. We might just find out that Drew thinks he has enough money and believes both his and TO's reputations could be better served by acting as though they aren't selfish jerks.

Its a nice thought, but the Broncos will sooner resign Mo Clarett and let him carry a bottle of Grey Goose onto the field.

 

[Rev]

Here's a summary of Shanny's conversation with TO:

MS: Hey TO. We'd love to have you in a Bronco's uniform next year.

TO: That's nice coach. But how often would you throw to me the ball and how much will you pay me?

MS: Oh we'll get into all that later. I wanted to talk to you about character first. Can you guarantee that we wont see any of the issues that you had in Philly or San Fran, as far as you embarrassing yourself and dividing the team by publically and senslessly denegrating coaches and players when things didn't go your way, or threatening to hold out if things do go your way? Can you guarantee that stuff wont happen again?

TO: Nope, not really.

MS: Thought not.

 

[BoulderBob]

Eagles players loved him, and he is a all world talent. Denver runs away with the division again if he ends up a Bronco...

 

[Rev]

Eagles players loved him, and he is a all world talent.  Denver runs away with the division again if he ends up a Bronco...

Yup. McNabb just loved him. So did the coaching staff. I'm told they still go out every Thursday and play bridge.

Wise man once say: "Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it."

Translation:

 

[mcjc4]

Here's a summary of Shanny's conversation with TO:

MS: Hey TO. We'd love to have you in a Bronco's uniform next year.

TO: That's nice coach. But how often would you throw to me the ball and how much will you pay me?

MS: Oh we'll get into all that later. I wanted to talk to you about character first. Can you guarantee that we wont see any of the issues that you had in Philly or San Fran, as far as you embarrassing yourself and dividing the team by publically and senslessly denegrating coaches and players when things didn't go your way, or threatening to hold out if things do go your way? Can you guarantee that stuff wont happen again?

TO: Nope, not really.

MS: Thought not.

Or it could be..MS Hey TO, You do understand this is probably your last shot at proving you are the best WR in the NFL right? Your behavior on this team be your last shot at millions in this league.

TO(Drew). We fully understand that this situation will give TO his best opportunity to showcase his skills and his recomittment to being a team player.

MS OK, We feel that we can structure a muti year deal that will TO to become one of the higher paid WR's in the league as long as he abides strickly by the behavior clauses we written into the contract. TO gives us an added dimension to our game that could take us to next level.

TO(Drew) Coach, we feel that the issues that arose in Philly were a mistake on TO's part and we have learned from that mistake and we are fully prepared to put that mistake in the past and win a Superbowl in Denver next year.

MS Great! Lets hammer out a deal, OH bye the way, can you play some RB.

 

[Courtjester]

I am guessing this was more of a "let's reserve a place at the front of the March 1st line" for Denver.I can't see them giving up much for TO--maybe a late pick at best. I bet this was all about just letting him know they are interested and will bid for his services after he is cut and to feel out his attitude.

 

[Banger]

I am guessing this was more of a "let's reserve a place at the front of the March 1st line" for Denver.

I can't see them giving up much for TO--maybe a late pick at best.

I bet this was all about just letting him know they are interested and will bid for his services after he is cut and to feel out his attitude.

bingo!!

 

[FFFIEND]

As a fantasy football fan, I am just excited to see the best WR back on the field.

 

[redman]

. . . And Kansas City and San Diego snicker . . .

 

[Banger]

. . . And Kansas City and San Diego snicker . . .

and then realizing that their crappy secondaries will have to try and cover him....

 

[P Boy]

Or it could be..

MS Hey TO, You do understand this is probably your last shot at proving you are the best WR in the NFL right? Your behavior on this team be your last shot at millions in this league.

TO(Drew). We fully understand that this situation will give TO his best opportunity to showcase his skills and his recomittment to being a team player.

MS OK, We feel that we can structure a muti year deal that will TO to become one of the higher paid WR's in the league as long as he abides strickly by the behavior clauses we written into the contract. TO gives us an added dimension to our game that could take us to next level.

TO(Drew) Coach, we feel that the issues that arose in Philly were a mistake on TO's part and we have learned from that mistake and we are fully prepared to put that mistake in the past and win a Superbowl in Denver next year.

MS Great! Lets hammer out a deal, OH bye the way, can you play some RB.

With the possible result of all this being that DEN doesn't try to get any WR help other than Owens (like PHI did), having R Smith get one year older & that much further of an erosion of what seperates him from the CBs he goes up against - and of course the possibility of injury, having TO go TO on DEN & get suspended with all the accompanying greivances, legal mumbo-jumbo, threats, etc, and DEN becoming completely one dimensional on offense with only Lelie as any kind of legit WR threat on the team, and having the season & the team go completely in the toilet.It happened already with PHI. It happened with SF. What makes DEN think that it won't happen with them? Shanahan has already tried this crap with Deron Cherry & Darryl Gardener and it blew up in his face badly both times. So we have a history of failure nboth on Owens side & DEN's side in this type of quick-and-easy fix.

Forget TO. Stop taking shortcuts. Get yourself a quality WR in the draft (if Shanahan could draft a decent WR in countless tries they wouldn't even be in this situation), or find a quality young guy in FA. Flush TO the turd right down the toilet like he deserves.

If DEN gets TO, they've lost a fan for good. I'll actively root for Owens to wreck DEN & take Shanahan down with them. You don't risk your franchise's health for years for a turd like Owens. His talent is immense, but his potential for disaster far outweighs any potential positive that he could bring.

 

[Warpig]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Why on earth would Denver want to trade for TO at his current contract? Or trade for TO at all? And give up compensation equal to about a 2nd and a 4th for him?

Somebody will. Denver can use a WR with TO's skills. So can KC. Could get into a bidding war if Herm wants TO (Peterson said no when Vermiel was here, but that could change now)

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha That would require the Chiefs to PAY T.O.

It'll never happen...especially since they overpaid all those defensive free agent busts last year (with the exception of Surtain perhaps)

 

[thesurfshop19]

Huge Broncos fan who would love this move.

T.O. and Drew Rosenhaus know this is the last shot. If they screw it up here, they'll never, ever get a payday from another team.

In San Francisco, you can chalk it up partially to a dysfunctional franchise. In Philadelphia, you could argue that the Eagles contributed partially by making the situation turn out worse than maybe it had to.

But if he screws up a 3rd time, no one will ever take a shot on him again. He'll lose the money that he fought so hard to get. When you consider the motivations of T.O. and Drew, the longterm ramifications and damage they've done, and all that, proper behavior is really the only option left for them. They've painted themselves into this corner.

Denver could get him for a cheap price, and he's possibly the same missing link that he was in Philly for an otherwise very good, but not great, team.

 

[-OZ-]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Why on earth would Denver want to trade for TO at his current contract? Or trade for TO at all? And give up compensation equal to about a 2nd and a 4th for him?

Somebody will. Denver can use a WR with TO's skills. So can KC. Could get into a bidding war if Herm wants TO (Peterson said no when Vermiel was here, but that could change now)

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha That would require the Chiefs to PAY T.O.

It'll never happen...especially since they overpaid all those defensive free agent busts last year (with the exception of Surtain perhaps)

Fair enough, but show me where the Chiefs can't make room.Peterson has demonstrated a willingness to pay when needed. He also wants to entertain the fans (sell tickets). TO most certainly would create a buzz around KC.

 

[Boston]

Mentally ill guys like TO don't change. They don't have the capacity to. Once you use logic and TO in the same thought the equation becomes null and void.

 

[P Boy]

Huge Broncos fan who would love this move.

T.O. and Drew Rosenhaus know this is the last shot. If they screw it up here, they'll never, ever get a payday from another team.

In San Francisco, you can chalk it up partially to a dysfunctional franchise. In Philadelphia, you could argue that the Eagles contributed partially by making the situation turn out worse than maybe it had to.

But if he screws up a 3rd time, no one will ever take a shot on him again. He'll lose the money that he fought so hard to get. When you consider the motivations of T.O. and Drew, the longterm ramifications and damage they've done, and all that, proper behavior is really the only option left for them. They've painted themselves into this corner.

Denver could get him for a cheap price, and he's possibly the same missing link that he was in Philly for an otherwise very good, but not great, team.

You're kidding, right? TO had a gigantic payday lined up in PHI. All he had to do was shut up & play. He would have either made the Eagles huge villians for cutting him after being a super-productive team guy (while reaping huge rewards on the FA market) or he would have forced PHI to honor the really juicy part of the contract.Instead he did neither, and now he's going to be scratching for an incentive ladened contract rather than something rock solid. His shot in PHI was his last grasp at the brass ring. Now he's hoping some idiot will be willing to take just one more chance (just ignore what happened w/ SF, BAL, & PHI - there's still got to be a sucker in the other 29 teams, right?).

If DEN makes a deal with the devil, they & their fans had better be prepared to accept the consequences when he blows another team up yet again. If McNabb can't make TO happy, how in the seven hells is Plummer going to do it?

 

[thesurfshop19]

You're kidding, right? TO had a gigantic payday lined up in PHI. All he had to do was shut up & play. He would have either made the Eagles huge villians for cutting him after being a super-productive team guy (while reaping huge rewards on the FA market) or he would have forced PHI to honor the really juicy part of the contract.

Instead he did neither, and now he's going to be scratching for an incentive ladened contract rather than something rock solid. His shot in PHI was his last grasp at the brass ring. Now he's hoping some idiot will be willing to take just one more chance (just ignore what happened w/ SF, BAL, & PHI - there's still got to be a sucker in the other 29 teams, right?).

If DEN makes a deal with the devil, they & their fans had better be prepared to accept the consequences when he blows another team up yet again. If McNabb can't make TO happy, how in the seven hells is Plummer going to do it?

Looking at it logically, you're the one who's not making sense.1. T.O. pulled an idiotic power move.

2. It backfired big time, costing him a lot of money.

3. T.O. and his agent are aware of this.

So why would they do the exact same thing they did last time if they want a different result?

No one disputes that T.O. really blew it in Philadelphia. That's not the issue here. The issue is now, this time around.

It's not making a deal with the devil. T.O. is not satan and has some redeeming qualities. He wants money, not to eat Jake Plummer's children. And he knows he won't get it unless he behaves.

 

[redman]

. . . And Kansas City and San Diego snicker . . .

and then realizing that their crappy secondaries will have to try and cover him intercept passes from Jake Plummer whose confidence is shot ....

 

[P Boy]

Looking at it logically, you're the one who's not making sense.

1. T.O. pulled an idiotic power move.

2. It backfired big time, costing him a lot of money.

3. T.O. and his agent are aware of this.

So why would they do the exact same thing they did last time if they want a different result?

No one disputes that T.O. really blew it in Philadelphia. That's not the issue here. The issue is now, this time around.

It's not making a deal with the devil. T.O. is not satan and has some redeeming qualities. He wants money, not to eat Jake Plummer's children. And he knows he won't get it unless he behaves.

I'm the one not being logical? TO just had a great deal and/or opportunity in his hands and he pissed it away because he couldn't shut his cakehole. You're expecting the leopard to change his spots, and I'm the one being illogical. That's pretty good...

 

[thesurfshop19]

I'm the one not being logical? TO just had a great deal and/or opportunity in his hands and he pissed it away because he couldn't shut his cakehole.

You're expecting the leopard to change his spots, and I'm the one being illogical. That's pretty good...

I'm saying that a guy screwed up and knows he screwed up, so he won't do it again.You're saying that a guy screwed up and knows he screwed up, but because he's the worst person in the history of the world, he will continue to do so even if it's not in his best interests.

Cool?

 

[redman]

I'm with Pony Boy on this one and I'd be saying the same things even if TO (as some fans want) was looking at signing with my 'Skins. No freaking way. Getting T.O. on your team is like Jeff Goldblum in The Fly. Sure, you get super strength and agility and impress people for awhile, but in the end you just fall apart.

 

[Warpig]

I wonder if 14 and Owens for 22 and the Denver second round pick would be acceptable.

Why on earth would Denver want to trade for TO at his current contract? Or trade for TO at all? And give up compensation equal to about a 2nd and a 4th for him?

Somebody will. Denver can use a WR with TO's skills. So can KC. Could get into a bidding war if Herm wants TO (Peterson said no when Vermiel was here, but that could change now)

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha That would require the Chiefs to PAY T.O.

It'll never happen...especially since they overpaid all those defensive free agent busts last year (with the exception of Surtain perhaps)

Fair enough, but show me where the Chiefs can't make room.Peterson has demonstrated a willingness to pay when needed. He also wants to entertain the fans (sell tickets). TO most certainly would create a buzz around KC.

I'm not saying the Chiefs can't make room, but Carl (Peterson) only goes on spending sprees about once every 10 years. Since he dropped his load last year, it won't happen again for about another 8 years. Yes, he wants to sell tickets, but tickets are already sold due to season holders and the fan base here and he takes advantage of that...thus only spending every 10 years or so when they fail to make it to the playoffs that long. The guy is a master at his job.

 

[BoulderBob]

Something I found that was interesting on the Front Office Football website:"I currently work with Chad Lewis' mom, and we were talking about the T.O. situation, and she was relaying some things Chad has stated about T.O.Chad truly liked him, and he said T.O. was by far the hardest working athlete he has ever met or played with. He also stated that T.O. was charismatic in the locker room, and was a true leader.In regards to everything that happened, the tema knew what happened was business, but really wished it wouldn't have happened the way it did.I know T.O. is appearing as a cancer as he has singlehandedly destroyed two teams, but I think he will end up in Dallas, and do well, only if Dallas has a veteran QB that can handle someone like T.O."I still believe the media has helped with this notion that TO is some terrible cancer...I'm sure the higher ups in the Philly front office had something to do with it as well.Of course, if TO shut his mouth every now and then he wouldn't have this problem.

 

[redman]

Something I found that was interesting on the Front Office Football website:

"I currently work with Chad Lewis' mom, and we were talking about the T.O. situation, and she was relaying some things Chad has stated about T.O.

Chad truly liked him, and he said T.O. was by far the hardest working athlete he has ever met or played with. He also stated that T.O. was charismatic in the locker room, and was a true leader.

In regards to everything that happened, the tema knew what happened was business, but really wished it wouldn't have happened the way it did.

I know T.O. is appearing as a cancer as he has singlehandedly destroyed two teams, but I think he will end up in Dallas, and do well, only if Dallas has a veteran QB that can handle someone like T.O."

OK, Chad, that covers Philly. What exactly happened in San Francisco? Did TO not actually question Garcia's manhood in the press? For that matter, did TO not actually question McNabb's toughness in the Super Bowl? Sorry, but it's not all just a misunderstanding.

 

[P Boy]

I'm saying that a guy screwed up and knows he screwed up, so he won't do it again.You're saying that a guy screwed up and knows he screwed up, but because he's the worst person in the history of the world, he will continue to do so even if it's not in his best interests.Cool?

I never made the claim that Owens is the worst person in the history of the world - and you don't want to go there.I do say that Owens was in line for some gigantic jack if he just could have played well with others, and he knew damn well the thin line he was walking - and still he couldn't do it.Why would he change & suddenly become a quiet team guy when he's only playing for a fraction of what he could have been earning? That makes no sense to me.

 

[BoulderBob]

Something I found that was interesting on the Front Office Football website:

"I currently work with Chad Lewis' mom, and we were talking about the T.O. situation, and she was relaying some things Chad has stated about T.O.

Chad truly liked him, and he said T.O. was by far the hardest working athlete he has ever met or played with. He also stated that T.O. was charismatic in the locker room, and was a true leader.

In regards to everything that happened, the tema knew what happened was business, but really wished it wouldn't have happened the way it did.

I know T.O. is appearing as a cancer as he has singlehandedly destroyed two teams, but I think he will end up in Dallas, and do well, only if Dallas has a veteran QB that can handle someone like T.O."

OK, Chad, that covers Philly. What exactly happened in San Francisco? Did TO not actually question Garcia's manhood in the press? For that matter, did TO not actually question McNabb's toughness in the Super Bowl? Sorry, but it's not all just a misunderstanding.

Who knows? Were you on the field that day?

 

[redman]

Something I found that was interesting on the Front Office Football website:

"I currently work with Chad Lewis' mom, and we were talking about the T.O. situation, and she was relaying some things Chad has stated about T.O.

Chad truly liked him, and he said T.O. was by far the hardest working athlete he has ever met or played with. He also stated that T.O. was charismatic in the locker room, and was a true leader.

In regards to everything that happened, the tema knew what happened was business, but really wished it wouldn't have happened the way it did.

I know T.O. is appearing as a cancer as he has singlehandedly destroyed two teams, but I think he will end up in Dallas, and do well, only if Dallas has a veteran QB that can handle someone like T.O."

OK, Chad, that covers Philly. What exactly happened in San Francisco? Did TO not actually question Garcia's manhood in the press? For that matter, did TO not actually question McNabb's toughness in the Super Bowl? Sorry, but it's not all just a misunderstanding.

Who knows? Were you on the field that day?

What field are you referring to? I'm talking about all of the things that TO did off of the field.

 

[P Boy]

Wow. redman, usually cursed by his complete lack of acumen, actually gets it...Where was that thread about flying monkeys?