TO Playing With Torn Tendons in Hand (1 Viewer)

[Hairy Snowman]

Yea, your all are right, he's always been a terrible teammate.

Like I said earlier in the year - He's like Richard Gere in an "Officer and a Gentleman" - the player has nowhere else to go.

And Parcells is starting to have some affect on him.

Im looking forward to better TO next year.



ETA ESPN said ...well, even though it is ESPN, it was reported that he had been playing with that for past 3 weeks.

 

[radballs]

He should have thought of the team before he hocked a loogie at DeAngelo Hall.

 

[Borat]

Are you a Cowboys fan?

 

[dickey moe]

Are you a Cowboys fan?

Who isn't?

 

[Borat]

Are you a Cowboys fan?

Who isn't?

Intelligent people?

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Are you a Cowboys fan?

Not really - Bears fan.But he gets bashed sooooo much by Marc and other people. My interest in him is strictly statistical.The woogie is pretty gross. But its not criminal. Cou*BENGALS*gh!He didn't smash into a family's car driving drunk, resulting in deaths, and then get caught driving drunk 2x afterward Cou*LITTLE*gh!TO's just a little kwazy. Amusing. But basically harmless in Dallas.This is football, so Ill really don't care that he spat in DeAngelo's face. Its not tennis. Its not like he waited for Hall after the game and ran over him with a car. It wasn't politically correct, but these people bleed on each other, sweat on each other, snot on each other alot the time. I could care less if everyone on both teams were hocking up a storm before each snap. But in the end I think they would realizze that it was easier to succeed when they didn't.I like to see fire in players, even if they are on the edge of being kwazy.........PS TO will never be a player of LT2s stature. But he aint no James Thrash either.

 

[Borat]

Are you a Cowboys fan?

Not really - Bears fan.But he gets bashed sooooo much by Marc and other people. My interest in him is strictly statistical.The woogie is pretty gross. But its not criminal. Cou*BENGALS*gh!He didn't smash into a family's car driving drunk, resulting in deaths, and then get caught driving drunk 2x afterward Cou*LITTLE*gh!TO's just a little kwazy. Amusing. But basically harmless in Dallas.This is football, so Ill really don't care that he spat in DeAngelo's face. Its not tennis. Its not like he waited for Hall after the game and ran over him with a car. It wasn't politically correct, but these people bleed on each other, sweat on each other, snot on each other alot the time. I could care less if everyone on both teams were hocking up a storm before each snap. But in the end I think they would realizze that it was easier to succeed when they didn't.I like to see fire in players, even if they are on the edge of being kwazy.........PS TO will never be a player of LT2s stature. But he aint no James Thrash either.

Interesting take. I don't necessarily agree with you, but I respect the points you've made.

 

[grygrx]

Too bad that suicide attempt wasn't real.

Nice, I hope that makes you feel good about yourself. It certainly was insightful to the conversation.Whatever anyone says about TO, I don't think he likes to lose. Him playing in while injured is just part of that. For all the ill at philly, his superbowl performance was great.

 

[Da Guru]

Owens is not doing this for his teammates..he is doing this for himself, like everything he does.

Owens contract is structured like 4 one year deals. The Cowboys can cut bait after this year with cap ramifications. Owens needs to stay on the field.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

good poiint - but he's still playing with it.

 

[Borat]

Owens is not doing this for his teammates..he is doing this for himself, like everything he does.Owens contract is structured like 4 one year deals. The Cowboys can cut bait after this year with cap ramifications. Owens needs to stay on the field.

That might be a good idea for a thread: does Dallas bring back TO next season?

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Owens is not doing this for his teammates..he is doing this for himself, like everything he does.Owens contract is structured like 4 one year deals. The Cowboys can cut bait after this year with cap ramifications. Owens needs to stay on the field.

That might be a good idea for a thread: does Dallas bring back TO next season?

Why wouldnt they - I think alot of what he does gets overblownCoybow players seem to like him well enough

 

[bostonfred]

It's a priviledge to watch a player of Terrell Owens' caliber. I feel badly for the fans who don't realize this.

 

[cobalt_27]

It's a priviledge to watch a player of Terrell Owens' caliber. I feel badly for the fans who don't realize this.

He drops the ball better than anybody I've ever seen.

 

[bostonfred]

It's a priviledge to watch a player of Terrell Owens' caliber. I feel badly for the fans who don't realize this.

He drops the ball better than anybody I've ever seen.

He may drop a lot of balls, but he gets to balls that other receivers wouldn't, and does more after the catch with the ones he catches. That's why he's one of the top 10 athletes in the game right now.

 

[Despyzer]

And Parcells is starting to have some affect on him.

By denying any knowledge of any injury.

 

[cobalt_27]

It's a priviledge to watch a player of Terrell Owens' caliber. I feel badly for the fans who don't realize this.

He drops the ball better than anybody I've ever seen.

He may drop a lot of balls, but he gets to balls that other receivers wouldn't, and does more after the catch with the ones he catches. That's why he's one of the top 10 athletes in the game right now.

Hardly. I'll put him in the top-20. But, not in the top 10, and certainly not one of the top 5 WRs.And, he's too much of a headache to make up for whatever he does bring to the table, anyway. As a Cowboy fan, I can't wait for him to get the hell out of town.

 

[bentley]

I don't care what kind of jerk he is, who he's looking out for, or who he spits on. As long as he goes 1200-13, he's OK with me.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

I don't care what kind of jerk he is, who he's looking out for, or who he spits on. As long as he goes 1200-13, he's OK with me.

And this was also the first year he wasn't in a west coast offense.I look forward to next year.Parcells denies knowledge of ANYTHING TO says. And to the comment about Parcells influence - I see it in TOs effort on the field blocking and the little things he DOESN'T say in the media regarding his teammates.I've seen him take plays off most years but not this year. I'll take the drops with the torn tendons. Better than no TO at all.

 

[cobalt_27]

I don't care what kind of jerk he is, who he's looking out for, or who he spits on. As long as he goes 1200-13, he's OK with me.

As a fantasy owner, I agree.As a fan of the Cowboys, I think I'll side with Philly fans and suggest that we find other ways to score points. More teams have won Super Bowls without T.O. than have won it with him. I'm thinking we could find another way.

 

[bentley]

I don't care what kind of jerk he is, who he's looking out for, or who he spits on. As long as he goes 1200-13, he's OK with me.

As a fantasy owner, I agree.As a fan of the Cowboys, I think I'll side with Philly fans and suggest that we find other ways to score points. More teams have won Super Bowls without T.O. than have won it with him. I'm thinking we could find another way.

But why? Dallas won championships with Hollywood Henderson, Lance Rentzel, Rafael Septien, Nate Newton, Michael Irvin, etc. I don't really care what these guys do in their free time as long as they're good on the field. And in case it isn't clear, I'm a diehard Cowboys fan and not someone that owns TO in a fantasy league.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

I don't care what kind of jerk he is, who he's looking out for, or who he spits on. As long as he goes 1200-13, he's OK with me.

As a fantasy owner, I agree.As a fan of the Cowboys, I think I'll side with Philly fans and suggest that we find other ways to score points. More teams have won Super Bowls without T.O. than have won it with him. I'm thinking we could find another way.

Wow.Newsflash - He didn't implode this year. He didn't suck the life out of your team.IN FACT - your team has clinched a playoff birth earlier than any year since the Super Bowl years.I think you need to get your head out of your tushy and start rooting for your team.BTW - would you be happy if the Cowboys win the Superbowl, but TO scores 3 TDs in a 21-20 wvictory? Or would you still hate TO?

 

[cobalt_27]

I don't care what kind of jerk he is, who he's looking out for, or who he spits on. As long as he goes 1200-13, he's OK with me.

As a fantasy owner, I agree.As a fan of the Cowboys, I think I'll side with Philly fans and suggest that we find other ways to score points. More teams have won Super Bowls without T.O. than have won it with him. I'm thinking we could find another way.

But why? Dallas won championships with Hollywood Henderson, Lance Rentzel, Rafael Septien, Nate Newton, Michael Irvin, etc. I don't really care what these guys do in their free time as long as they're good on the field.

They weren't throwing their teammates under the bus and making life miserable in the locker room or being the supreme attention-grabbing headcase/headache for their head coaches.

 

[bostonfred]

It's a priviledge to watch a player of Terrell Owens' caliber. I feel badly for the fans who don't realize this.

He drops the ball better than anybody I've ever seen.

He may drop a lot of balls, but he gets to balls that other receivers wouldn't, and does more after the catch with the ones he catches. That's why he's one of the top 10 athletes in the game right now.

Hardly. I'll put him in the top-20. But, not in the top 10, and certainly not one of the top 5 WRs.And, he's too much of a headache to make up for whatever he does bring to the table, anyway. As a Cowboy fan, I can't wait for him to get the hell out of town.

Dallas has already clinched a playoff spot and already has more wins than they had last year without him. Owens has 77 catches for over 1000 yards and 9 TDs despite playing through injury and dealing with a midseason quarterback change. He's made unheralded Tony Romo look like a superstar. He's a tough receiver, he has a ton of energy on the sidelines, and he loves blocking. I don't know what more you could expect from a receiver. And the idea that he's not even a top 5 receiver is ridiculous. Name another receiver who has had as much success as Owens on three different teams. That's incredibly difficult to do. And not only has he had statistical success, but every team he's been on has had a better year the year he got there, he's led his teams to first round byes, playoff wins, and was a McNabb chokejob away from being Superbowl MVP. Say what you want about whether you'd hang out with him, he's one of the premier athletes in the NFL.

 

[bentley]

I don't care what kind of jerk he is, who he's looking out for, or who he spits on. As long as he goes 1200-13, he's OK with me.

As a fantasy owner, I agree.As a fan of the Cowboys, I think I'll side with Philly fans and suggest that we find other ways to score points. More teams have won Super Bowls without T.O. than have won it with him. I'm thinking we could find another way.

But why? Dallas won championships with Hollywood Henderson, Lance Rentzel, Rafael Septien, Nate Newton, Michael Irvin, etc. I don't really care what these guys do in their free time as long as they're good on the field.

They weren't throwing their teammates under the bus and making life miserable in the locker room or being the supreme attention-grabbing headcase/headache for their head coaches.

It doesn't seem to be having a negative effect on the field. I want the Cowboys to have the best 22 players possible on the field, not the 22 guys I'd most like to hang out with or have date my sister.

 

[cobalt_27]

I don't care what kind of jerk he is, who he's looking out for, or who he spits on. As long as he goes 1200-13, he's OK with me.

As a fantasy owner, I agree.As a fan of the Cowboys, I think I'll side with Philly fans and suggest that we find other ways to score points. More teams have won Super Bowls without T.O. than have won it with him. I'm thinking we could find another way.

Wow.Newsflash - He didn't implode this year. He didn't suck the life out of your team.IN FACT - your team has clinched a playoff birth earlier than any year since the Super Bowl years.I think you need to get your head out of your tushy and start rooting for your team.BTW - would you be happy if the Cowboys win the Superbowl, but TO scores 3 TDs in a 21-20 wvictory? Or would you still hate TO?

Ok, are your old enough to be on the internet?I root for the Cowboys, and I root for TO to not drop the ball. That doesn't mean I wouldn't rather have him play somewhere else? He hasn't imploded...yet. Suicide/overdose came pretty close, but he's done enough damage, and we've succeeded in spite of him. He's made good contributions, but he's not even the best receiver right now ON THE COWBOYS! You can't rely on him in the clutch; he drops way too many balls. We can win without him. Like I said, more teams have won without TO than with him. Just like getting rid of the best FG kicker in history (so says he and the lifetime FG% stats), we can succeed without the headache.

 

[Da Guru]

It's a priviledge to watch a player of Terrell Owens' caliber. I feel badly for the fans who don't realize this.

Owens immature behavior for a man of 33 years of age takes away from his talent. When you think about it is a shame what he will be remebered for as a NFL player.

 

[cobalt_27]

I don't care what kind of jerk he is, who he's looking out for, or who he spits on. As long as he goes 1200-13, he's OK with me.

As a fantasy owner, I agree.As a fan of the Cowboys, I think I'll side with Philly fans and suggest that we find other ways to score points. More teams have won Super Bowls without T.O. than have won it with him. I'm thinking we could find another way.

But why? Dallas won championships with Hollywood Henderson, Lance Rentzel, Rafael Septien, Nate Newton, Michael Irvin, etc. I don't really care what these guys do in their free time as long as they're good on the field.

They weren't throwing their teammates under the bus and making life miserable in the locker room or being the supreme attention-grabbing headcase/headache for their head coaches.

It doesn't seem to be having a negative effect on the field. I want the Cowboys to have the best 22 players possible on the field, not the 22 guys I'd most like to hang out with or have date my sister.

Up to this point, I think you're right (other than the 15-yd penalties for celebrations that give the other teams better field position). I don't trust his history, and he's making me nervous even now. He does stupid things like spit in other players' faces. Who knows if that'll give him a suspension or not, but he walks that line.

 

[Despyzer]

Anyone think it's odd that Owens didn't mention this injury during that Michael Irvin interview? Just didn't come up?

 

[bentley]

Anyone think it's odd that Owens didn't mention this injury during that Michael Irvin interview? Just didn't come up?

There's no telling. Maybe he didn't know then. If you're to believe him that he's upset about someone revealing all of his issues, it makes sense that he might not spill everything to Michael.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

I don't care what kind of jerk he is, who he's looking out for, or who he spits on. As long as he goes 1200-13, he's OK with me.

As a fantasy owner, I agree.As a fan of the Cowboys, I think I'll side with Philly fans and suggest that we find other ways to score points. More teams have won Super Bowls without T.O. than have won it with him. I'm thinking we could find another way.

Wow.Newsflash - He didn't implode this year. He didn't suck the life out of your team.

IN FACT - your team has clinched a playoff birth earlier than any year since the Super Bowl years.

I think you need to get your head out of your tushy and start rooting for your team.

BTW - would you be happy if the Cowboys win the Superbowl, but TO scores 3 TDs in a 21-20 wvictory? Or would you still hate TO?

Ok, are your old enough to be on the internet?I root for the Cowboys, and I root for TO to not drop the ball. That doesn't mean I wouldn't rather have him play somewhere else? He hasn't imploded...yet. Suicide/overdose (alergic reaction) came pretty close, but he's done enough damage, and we've succeeded in spite of him(name one cowboy that agrees with you) . He's made good contributions, but he's not even the best receiver right now ON THE COWBOYS! (Is your real name Drew Bledsoe?) You can't rely on him in the clutch(as Dallas found out in the playoffs when he played for San Fran) ; he drops way too many balls(with a broken finger and 3 torn tendons) .

We can win without him(just like last year) . Like I said, more teams have won without TO than with him(just havent won more games than before he came or after he left . Just like getting rid of the best FG kicker in history (after he almost missed every FG he attempted) (so says he and the lifetime FG% stats), we can succeed without the headache.

You make alot of sense.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

It's a priviledge to watch a player of Terrell Owens' caliber. I feel badly for the fans who don't realize this.

Owens immature behavior for a man of 33 years of age takes away from his talent. When you think about it it is a shame what he will be rememered for as a NFL player.

This is totally true. Can you imagine his legacy if he was a class guy? We'd be talking about him as the last vestige of the San Fran Dynasty.

 

[Despyzer]

Anyone think it's odd that Owens didn't mention this injury during that Michael Irvin interview? Just didn't come up?

There's no telling. Maybe he didn't know then. If you're to believe him that he's upset about someone revealing all of his issues, it makes sense that he might not spill everything to Michael.

Then why make a big deal about it on the same weekend? Something doesn't add up.

 

[bentley]

Anyone think it's odd that Owens didn't mention this injury during that Michael Irvin interview? Just didn't come up?

There's no telling. Maybe he didn't know then. If you're to believe him that he's upset about someone revealing all of his issues, it makes sense that he might not spill everything to Michael.

Then why make a big deal about it on the same weekend? Something doesn't add up.

Well, the first thing to remember when talking about TO is that he's completely ####### crazy in a literal sense. It puts everything else in perspective for me.

 

[Despyzer]

Anyone think it's odd that Owens didn't mention this injury during that Michael Irvin interview? Just didn't come up?

There's no telling. Maybe he didn't know then. If you're to believe him that he's upset about someone revealing all of his issues, it makes sense that he might not spill everything to Michael.

Then why make a big deal about it on the same weekend? Something doesn't add up.

Well, the first thing to remember when talking about TO is that he's completely ####### crazy in a literal sense. It puts everything else in perspective for me.

Fair enough; never mind.

 

[BigTex]

Anyone think it's odd that Owens didn't mention this injury during that Michael Irvin interview? Just didn't come up?

There's no telling. Maybe he didn't know then. If you're to believe him that he's upset about someone revealing all of his issues, it makes sense that he might not spill everything to Michael.

This was mentioned on Thursday of last week, because he started having to pain and discomfort for the original injury.

 

[BigTex]

Owens is not doing this for his teammates..he is doing this for himself, like everything he does.Owens contract is structured like 4 one year deals. The Cowboys can cut bait after this year with cap ramifications. Owens needs to stay on the field.

That might be a good idea for a thread: does Dallas bring back TO next season?

Why wouldnt they - I think alot of what he does gets overblownCoybow players seem to like him well enough

I'm surprised it's not getting a lot of buzz, but it's been said locally that Parcells has told Jerry Jones that he'll only come back if TO is gone.

 

[Bri]

He's dramatic, I'd like to see him make a fist. Not sure I believe it

 

[zoonation]

he TO bashing that goes on around here is brutal and tired.

Winning in spite of him? Good one. They are winning "in spite" of his NFL receiver leading 11 TD's.

No TO = different defence and less room for other receivers.

You people hate so much that you can convince yourself of anything.

He has dropped a lot of balls this year, even for him. But he does have a bad hand and is plaing through it and playing well. He wasa big part of the Dallas win against Atlanta, in a must win game and makes the Cowboys offence far more dangerous than it would be without him.

Hate on, haters.

 

[mad sweeney]

Are you a Cowboys fan?

Not really - Bears fan.But he gets bashed sooooo much by Marc and other people. My interest in him is strictly statistical.

The woogie is pretty gross. But its not criminal. Cou*BENGALS*gh!

He didn't smash into a family's car driving drunk, resulting in deaths, and then get caught driving drunk 2x afterward Cou*LITTLE*gh!

TO's just a little kwazy. Amusing. But basically harmless in Dallas.

This is football, so Ill really don't care that he spat in DeAngelo's face. Its not tennis. Its not like he waited for Hall after the game and ran over him with a car.

It wasn't politically correct, but these people bleed on each other, sweat on each other, snot on each other alot the time. I could care less if everyone on both teams were hocking up a storm before each snap. But in the end I think they would realizze that it was easier to succeed when they didn't.

I like to see fire in players, even if they are on the edge of being kwazy.........

PS TO will never be a player of LT2s stature. But he aint no James Thrash either.

My favorite is when people try to mitigate TO and his actions by comparing him to something worse. You can always tell how high of regard people hold you by whom they compare you to. So TO's not bad because at least he isn't a criminal. Yeah, that's the kind of defense I want....

 

[mad sweeney]

he TO bashing that goes on around here is brutal and tired.



Winning in spite of him? Good one. They are winning "in spite" of his NFL receiver leading 11 TD's.

No TO = different defence and less room for other receivers.

You people hate so much that you can convince yourself of anything.

He has dropped a lot of balls this year, even for him. But he does have a bad hand and is plaing through it and playing well. He wasa big part of the Dallas win against Atlanta, in a must win game and makes the Cowboys offence far more dangerous than it would be without him.

Hate on, haters.

They're not winning in spite of his TDs, but because (not solely) of them. They're winning in spite of his massive number of dropped balls. And here's where the hate comes in, if he's so important to the Dallas offense then isn't doing selfish stuff that hurts the team (key dropped passes,TD celebration penalties) or could get him suspended for a game or two (spitting, missing/sleeping in meetings, conduct detrimental) then doesn't that make him a bad teammate. To be so important to your team and put that help in jeopardy for selfish reasons. Does that make you a "good" teammate?

 

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[Traders2001]

Excuses , Excuses .

Cmon , he is a moron. He cant be doing it for his teammates .

 

[cr8f]

Are you a Cowboys fan?

Not really - Bears fan.But he gets bashed sooooo much by Marc and other people. My interest in him is strictly statistical.

The woogie is pretty gross. But its not criminal. Cou*BENGALS*gh!

Actually it is criminal. It's batteryBattery

A battery is the willful or intentional touching of a person against that person’s will by another person, or by an object or substance put in motion by that other person. Please note that an offensive touching can constitute a battery even if it does not cause injury, and could not reasonably be expected to cause injury. A defendant who emphatically pokes the plaintiff in the chest with his index finger to emphasize a point may be culpable for battery (although the damages award that results may well be nominal). A defendant who spits on a plaintiff, even though there is little chance that the spitting will cause any injury other than to the plaintiff's dignity, has committed a battery..

 

[fatness]

There are quite a few things in NFL games that are battery, under that definition. Late hits, punching someone in a pileup, etc.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Yea, your all are right, he's always been a terrible teammate.

You've gotta be kidding me if you believe he is not having surgery for his teammates. TO has never been a team player, and he never will be. Anything TO does, it's for himself. His sportsmanship and lack of respect for coaches, teammates, and other NFL players, is one of the worse I've ever seen in a player.

 

[cobalt_27]

he TO bashing that goes on around here is brutal and tired.



Winning in spite of him? Good one. They are winning "in spite" of his NFL receiver leading 11 TD's.

No TO = different defence and less room for other receivers.

You people hate so much that you can convince yourself of anything.

He has dropped a lot of balls this year, even for him. But he does have a bad hand and is plaing through it and playing well. He wasa big part of the Dallas win against Atlanta, in a must win game and makes the Cowboys offence far more dangerous than it would be without him.

Hate on, haters.

They're not winning in spite of his TDs, but because (not solely) of them. They're winning in spite of his massive number of dropped balls. And here's where the hate comes in, if he's so important to the Dallas offense then isn't doing selfish stuff that hurts the team (key dropped passes,TD celebration penalties) or could get him suspended for a game or two (spitting, missing/sleeping in meetings, conduct detrimental) then doesn't that make him a bad teammate. To be so important to your team and put that help in jeopardy for selfish reasons. Does that make you a "good" teammate?

This guy gets it.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Quick responses - To the Battery charge - you could say the entire game is a form of Battery. You don't go out on the street and tackle people.

To people saying that you compare him to something worse - yes, someone in the NFL who literally gets away with murder compared to someone who is nuts yet harmless. He seems fairly law abiding outside of the NFL.

The Parcells vs TO has to go - I think that is just rumor. Parcells sure looked unhappy when Romo first got in and the offense started clicking the way he has wanted it to since he got to Dallas. After spending all this time putting it together, so you really think he is going to let someone else ride team to a superbowl? I doubt it.

Parcells is in great shape for his age and looks to me like he is having more fun this year than any year I've seen him in Dallas.

I like the post that said "first you have to remind yourself theat TO is crazy", then its much easier to accept that he also has freakish ability.

He is definetly one of the main reasons Dallas is where they are. I'd say Romo, Ware and Barber have all played a big part too.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

he TO bashing that goes on around here is brutal and tired.



Winning in spite of him? Good one. They are winning "in spite" of his NFL receiver leading 11 TD's.

No TO = different defence and less room for other receivers.

You people hate so much that you can convince yourself of anything.

He has dropped a lot of balls this year, even for him. But he does have a bad hand and is plaing through it and playing well. He wasa big part of the Dallas win against Atlanta, in a must win game and makes the Cowboys offence far more dangerous than it would be without him.

Hate on, haters.

They're not winning in spite of his TDs, but because (not solely) of them. They're winning in spite of his massive number of dropped balls. And here's where the hate comes in, if he's so important to the Dallas offense then isn't doing selfish stuff that hurts the team (key dropped passes,TD celebration penalties) or could get him suspended for a game or two (spitting, missing/sleeping in meetings, conduct detrimental) then doesn't that make him a bad teammate. To be so important to your team and put that help in jeopardy for selfish reasons. Does that make you a "good" teammate?

This guy gets it.

First - remember he is nuts-Then - judge him based on him being nuts.

He's basically harmless, just on the edge personality wise.

 

[cobalt_27]

Quick responses - To the Battery charge - you could say the entire game is a form of Battery.

You could. But, you'd be terribly confused and wrong if you did.